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That Washington Post headline about the outsourcing focus at Bain Capital during Mitt Romney's tenure there is sure to prompt more questions for Romney's campaign -- questions that aren't likely to have a positive answer for the Republican candidate.

Connor Simpson at The Atlantic looks at how Camp Romney is responding so far to The Washington Post analysis that Bain Capital helped to outsource jobs overseas:

The Romney campaign "repeatedly declined requests" to comment on the story, but a Bain spokesman didn't hesitate at all. "Bain Capital’s business model has always been to build great companies and improve their operations," he told them. "We have helped the 350 companies in which we have invested... produce $80 billion of revenue growth in the United States while growing their revenues well over twice as fast as both the S&P and the U.S. economy over the last 28 years."

The first outsourcing company Bain invested in was Corporate Software Inc. which provided call centers for tech companies. Bain invested in the company in 1993 as minority stakeholder, and CSI started outsourcing its work by the mid-1990s. CSI merged with another company to become Stream, and expanded its outsourcing through the '90s. Bain eventually became the majority shareholder a few months after Romney left Bain in 1999. Bain was also active in running a Stream subsidiary, Modus Media, that also outsourced call center work. Bain also invested in bike manufacturer GT Bicycle Inc. and electronics manufacturer SMTC Corp., both were American companies that used overseas production.

Jonathan Chait at New York Magazine on Mitt Romney's unrealistic approach to immigration reform:
The general theme of Mitt Romney's campaign is that President Obama is 100 percent responsible for everything that has happened since he took office, including not only worldwide economic events but decisions of the Republican Congress. He mainly applies this assumption to economic policy, but extends it to things like immigration as well. Here's Romney not saying what he would do about Obama's enforcement of the DREAM Act:
“Unfortunately, despite his promises, President Obama has failed to address immigration reform,” Romney declared in prepared remarks, saying this of Obama’s new deportation policy: “Some people have asked if I will let stand the president’s executive action. The answer is that I will put in place my own long-term solution that will replace and supersede the President’s temporary measure.”
Note that Romney here is consistently applying his assumption of presidential omnipotence to a future Romney administration. First he claims that Obama "failed" because Republicans filibustered the DREAM Act. Then, avoiding the part where Obama overcame that unilaterally, he asserts he will "put in place" his own plan. Right away! Making any decision about continuing Obama's executive action unnecessary! Quite a trick. If Romney announces on January 20 that he's dissolving Congress and ruling by decree, I guess we can't say we weren't warned.
Adam Sorenson at TIME looks at Romney's about-face on immigration:
Pare away the tough economic talk, the requisite condemnations of President Obama, and Mitt Romney’s Thursday address at a conference of Latino elected officials in Orlando was a softer moment for a candidate who spent much of the last two presidential election cycles savaging his primary opponents on immigration. He didn’t denounce “magnets” for illegals like he did during his winter clashes with Rick Perry, or rail against “amnesty” as he did in 2008 while running against John McCain. Circumstances have forced Romney to recalibrate.

Well, not entirely. Romney’s central message was still a biting commentary on the economy, a topic he never leaves alone for long. The substance was fine-tuned for the audience, but familiar. “Over two million more Hispanics are living in poverty today than the day President Obama took office,” he said. “Home values have plunged, our national debt is at record levels and families are buried under higher prices for food and gasoline.” But the general election and Obama’s decision to make an end-run around Congress by issuing an executive order last week that will stop deportations of young undocumented immigrants and issue them work permits forced Romney to respond on immigration in ways he previously hadn’t.

Matt Negrin at ABC News:
Two people told Bloomberg that the campaign asked Gov. Rick Scott to "tone down his statements." Democrats have interpreted that as Romney "rooting for failure" as far as the economy is concerned.

Romney and Scott deny the story, which highlights a strategy problem for the GOP: How do you make Obama look bad on the economy while hailing Republican governors in states where the economy is improving? [...]

Romney faces a similar problem in Michigan, Ohio, Nevada and Virginia — key battleground states in which Republican governors are trying to enhance their own political prospects by talking up economic progress.

In those states, governors say that they deserve credit for the recovering economy, not Obama.

Michael Finnegan and Morgan Little at The Los Angeles Times:
“If we learned anything from today’s revelation that Mitt Romney urged Gov. Rick Scott to downplay good economic news in Florida, it’s this: Mitt Romney would rather see the American economy fail before the election than see President Obama win,” said Martin O’Malley, the Democratic governor of Maryland whose statement was circulated Friday by the Obama reelection campaign.

The dust-up reflected the growing tension between Romney, whose campaign is premised on portrayals of economic misery under Obama, and Republican governors who are eager to take credit for job growth in their states.

Scott Conroy reminds us of a key fact:
CBS News political director John Dickerson, who covered his first presidential campaign as an embedded reporter in 1996, said that the VP guessing game is always replete with pure speculation and serves mainly to fill a vacuum during the summer doldrums, when there is a relative scarcity of major campaign news.

"Vice presidential picks are important because they tell us something about how the guy at the top of the ticket thinks and how he might run his presidency," Dickerson said. "None of that can be adequately evaluated by talking about whether Carroll Campbell is going to be Bob Dole's VP pick. From a news standpoint, it's one of the least nourishing pieces you can do. It tells us nothing."

Members of Romney's Boston-based staff often marvel privately at the extent to which the selection process -- being led by longtime confidante Beth Myers -- has been kept secret from almost everyone inside the campaign, never mind those on the outside.

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  •  i'm (3+ / 0-)
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    hungry.

    and it's just starting...

    Addington's Perpwalk: TRAILHEAD of Accountability for Bush-2 Crimes.
    * Join: OBAMA'S TRUTH TEAM *

    by greenbird on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 04:32:09 AM PDT

  •  The Obama campaign will tie Romney's outsourcing (17+ / 0-)

    of American jobs while at Bain to his policy of tax reform for corporations in which Romney will continue to give tax breaks to companies that ship jobs overseas while Obama will end those tax loopholes and give businesses tax breaks for insourcing those jobs back to America.

    http://www.politico.com/...

    Obama senior adviser David Axelrod seized on the story in a statement last night, accusing Romney of hypocrisy: "Tonight's story in the Washington Post exposed Mitt Romney's breathtaking hypocrisy. He has campaigned all over this country, vowing that he would be an advocate for American jobs. But tonight we learned that he made a fortune advising companies on how to outsource jobs to China and India. Maybe that explains why, despite his campaign rhetoric, Romney continues to support tax policies that would reward companies who send American jobs overseas."

    President Obama, January 9, 2012: "Change is hard, but it is possible. I've Seen it. I've Lived it."

    by Drdemocrat on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 04:45:13 AM PDT

    •  How is Obama's GM/Chrysler deal (0+ / 0-)

      any different than what Bain did?

      Obama's GM/Chrysler deal put tens of thousands out of work, closed many facilities and, since the bailout, GM has hired more workers south of the border (and overseas).

      GM to invest $540 mln in Mexican engine plant

      $500 Million dollars spent on building infrastructure.. not here.. in Mexico!  And then hundreds of workers to run the plant..

      Isn't this exactly what Romney was doing all those years at Bain?

      •  No. (11+ / 0-)

        President Obama does not make decisions on how GM operates or how its investments are decided and he has no financial stake in the outcome of GM's reorganization.  Romney ran Bain Capital and had a financial stake in their decisions, Bain owned the majority share of the companies they took over and Bain earned money from those companies to make decisions on the companies' operations and whether or not there were to be any investments in the companies and exactly what any investments were to be.

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 05:57:24 AM PDT

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      •  President Obama didn't make one dime (10+ / 0-)

        off of shipping American jobs overseas.  Again not one dime.

        Romney MADE MILLIONS off of outsourcing American jobs.  

        In terms of GM, many of those jobs are coming back to America and that is why you see an resurgence in the Rust belt including Ohio and Michigan.

        President Obama wants to END tax cuts for companies that ship American jobs overseas and give tax breaks for insourcing.  Romney wants to continue the loopholes for corporations who ship our jobs overseas.

        These facts are POWERFUL and expect to see these in ads this Fall.

        President Obama, January 9, 2012: "Change is hard, but it is possible. I've Seen it. I've Lived it."

        by Drdemocrat on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:01:59 AM PDT

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      •  I have no objection to that (3+ / 0-)
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        We have a free trade agreement with Mexico.  Mexico in itself is an enormous market for cars and trucks.  By the same logic by which we celebrate foreign companies building plants in the US to supply our market, and even their home markets, we should be OK with something like this.

        Romney '12: Bully for America!

        by Rich in PA on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:08:15 AM PDT

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      •  Obama's GM/Chrysler deal is also estimated (6+ / 0-)

        to have saved nearly a million jobs.

        Not only in those companies, but in terms of the dealerships, part manufacturers and repair shops that would probably have gone under if GM and Chrysler had gone under.

        Freedom has two enemies: Those who want to control everyone around them...and those who feel no need to control themselves.

        by Sirenus on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:11:29 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Oh, Jerry, you try so hard (5+ / 0-)

        and you are so wrong all the time!
        Obama's auto bailout not only saved a million jobs here in the US (and they continue to hire more and more every year), it also saved the company from going bankrupt. Were some extraneous dealerships closed and jobs lost? Yes, in order to save the company and make it more efficient. And it worked, brilliantly, as GM is back as the #1 car maker in the world.
        Building cars in Mexico provides good jobs in Mexico and helps reduce illegal immigration.
        As a right winger, you should at least appreciate that part.
        What Romney and Bain were doing was lining their pockets and their investor's pockets with money at the expense of jobs and companies.
         

        “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

        by skohayes on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:30:43 AM PDT

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      •  This just isn't your year. (4+ / 0-)

        Perhaps you'll fare better in '16.

        Romney - 2012 - He's A Trooper!

        by kitebro on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:44:32 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Ohio is saturated with pro-Romney ads that (9+ / 0-)

    use the President's 'The private sector is doing fine' line.

    Obama needs to saturate with ads using the Romney line about 'He's never run a small business, he doesn't know when to send jobs overseas'.

    The answer is NEVER.  A president should NEVER send jobs overseas.  That's where Romney simply doesn't understand why a Presidency and a CEO are two entirely different things.

    •  Northern Ohio definitely benefitted from the auto. (3+ / 0-)
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      .;...bailout.....even Kasich admitted that.

      "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

      by Bush Bites on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 05:32:42 AM PDT

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    •  Doubtful Romney can win Ohio in 2012 (4+ / 0-)
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      ..under almost any circumstances. Unemployment peaked there around 11% in early 2010. It's now trending to 7%.

      The only pollsters that have it as competitive or even give Romney leads are the usual suspects: Rasmussen, Purple Strategies, Fox News.

      All legitimate pollsters give Obama comfortable margins in the 5-7 pt range.

      •  The ads will continue no matter... (2+ / 0-)
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        ...how solid POTUS' lead in polling ends up. At some point, the SuperPAC money could well diverge from what is in the better interests of Team rMONEY and the some of the vulnerable GOP candidates down-ballot.

        Many of the SuperPAC donors are interested in spreading their own version of the "Gospel of Prosperity" in which POTUS is the Anti-Christ, and they will continue "preaching" in swing states where the Election is essentially no longer in doubt, just when Team rMONEY would rather they direct those considerable resources to states with "getable" EVs.

        When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

        by Egalitare on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 05:56:38 AM PDT

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        •  The thing is, Ohio has to be "got" (4+ / 0-)
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          Without it, Rmoney has virtually no chance of becoming president. Florida is like that also. So these are, or at least could be, financial sinkholes for him.

          Why is that?

          Because at some point flooding the airwaves ...robocalls..etc..actually works against a candidate.

          •  Has that ever been proven? (1+ / 0-)
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            Because at some point flooding the airwaves ...robocalls..etc..actually works against a candidate.
            Not challenging you, I guess, but just curious if there really is statisical evidence.

            "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

            by Bush Bites on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:07:02 AM PDT

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            •  See Linda McMahon in CT in 2010 (2+ / 0-)
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              She blew $50 million in a small state only to see her favorables go down, down, down.

              •  Did that happen (2+ / 0-)
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                with Meg Whitman, too, I wonder?

                “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

                by skohayes on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:32:31 AM PDT

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              •  Yeah, that's true. (1+ / 0-)
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                Heart of the Rockies

                I'm not in CT, but it seemed like the quality of the commercials may have also been responsible.

                Didn't she have commercials of women acting macho or something?

                Maybe you can't separate quantity and quality -- but an annoying commercial would definitely hurt a candidate if played continually more than a good commercial would.

                Anyway, you're probably right. I was just wondering if there have been any studies on oversaturation and political negatives -- might be impossible to link the two definitively with all the other variables going on in a campaign.

                "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

                by Bush Bites on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:46:08 AM PDT

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            •  I can certainly believe... (1+ / 0-)
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              ...rapidly diminishing returns.

              Does an extra $2 million in media saturation get you one extra % in poll movement? Or does it take an extra $5 million? $8 million?

              And is that amount of additional media saturation even available when one determines it's needed?

              When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

              by Egalitare on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:34:08 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  I could too. (0+ / 0-)

                It passes the smell test for me, but I just wondered if there were any studies out there.

                "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

                by Bush Bites on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:40:22 AM PDT

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    •  The Romney ads will be used against him (1+ / 0-)
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      Amber6541

      in the coming months. It's easy to mock an ad when it is so blatantly deceptive.

      Romney - 2012 - He's A Trooper!

      by kitebro on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:46:23 AM PDT

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  •  Bain is a great line of attack (16+ / 0-)

    for Obama. The campaign  needs to ignore the DLC Democrats, including  Bill Clinton and swing away.

    Re-elect Barack Obama and elect Elizabeth Warren

    by al23 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 04:53:33 AM PDT

  •  Chait's piece is at New York Magazine, not The New (1+ / 0-)
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    Amber6541

    Yorker.

    `You needn't go on making remarks like that, ... they're not sensible, and they put me out.'

    by seanwright on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 05:00:51 AM PDT

  •  I find it very interesting that O'Malley (8+ / 0-)

    is being used as the attack dog on the state economic issue. He is one of the front runners for the 2016 Democratic Party nomination. Is the Obama campaign helping to burnish his credentials?

    O'Malley is a very different political creature from Obama; he's more liberal, a very grass-roots kind of politician and has his own band. He's my governor and I think he's doing a great job. I don't necessarily agree with him on everything but he is solid, admits his errors and is squeaky clean. If you don't know much about him you should check him out.

    You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia".

    by yellowdog on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 05:09:20 AM PDT

  •  Conspicuously absent from... (10+ / 0-)

    ...this Bain spokesmodel's statement:

     

    "We have helped the 350 companies in which we have invested... produce $80 billion of revenue growth in the United States while growing their revenues well over twice as fast as both the S&P and the U.S. economy over the last 28 years."
    ...are the words "Employees" or "Jobs."

    Yes, I understand that their responsibility is to shareholder value. But that "value" is being presented to us as a reason to vote for someone who promises to "make the economy better", and it is clearly implied in what Bain considers "success" what  a "better" economy is - and is not.

    When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

    by Egalitare on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 05:19:17 AM PDT

  •  Food and fuel costs are up! (1+ / 0-)
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    Bad for Hispanics, bad for everybody, bad bad Obama!.

    Housing prices are down!

    Bad for Hispanics, bad for everybody, bad bad Obama!.

    Actually, of course, Hispanics are more likely than the rest of us to be on the producing side of food and the consuming side of housing, aren't they?

    Am I right, or am I right? - The Singing Detective

    by Clem Yeobright on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 05:19:53 AM PDT

    •  Fuel prices have been dropping (1+ / 0-)
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      Amber6541

      steadily since the end of May (one reason that retail sales figures are down is because of the reduced gas prices), and food prices are coming down as well (since transportation costs affect food prices).

      “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

      by skohayes on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:42:53 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Without seeing the books (12+ / 0-)

    I feel confident that Bain's claim of adding $80 billion to the U.S. economy doesn't bother to subtract the cost to taxpayers who end up paying for unemployment insurance and bailing out pension funds.

    The people have spoken and they're both named Koch. - Andy Borowitz

    by Red Bean on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 05:21:20 AM PDT

  •  That's B.S. (2+ / 0-)
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    Romney faces a similar problem in Michigan, Ohio, Nevada and Virginia — key battleground states in which Republican governors are trying to enhance their own political prospects by talking up economic progress.

    In those states, governors say that they deserve credit for the recovering economy, not Obama.

    Michigan and Ohio would be basket cases if the auto industry failed, as Kasich has admitted.

    I didn't know Virginia was ever in trouble but, if it has improved, it's because of government (and probably defense) jobs.

    Not sure about Nevada, though.

    "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

    by Bush Bites on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 05:31:36 AM PDT

  •  For health care, it's repeal and replace. (5+ / 0-)

    For immigration, it's replace and supercede.

    Actually, the Republicans want to replace Obama, and then repeal everything that is good for the 99%.

  •  What's the problem (4+ / 0-)

    with this statement?

    Mitt Romney would rather see the American economy fail before the election than see President Obama win.
    Besides sounding accusatory, this statement calls on the Romney campaign to refute it.  They can't - or won't.  No one in the Republican party has been able to explain why the statement is false.  There is a lot of false outrage about the accusation, but not a shred of refutation.

    Meanwhile statements emerging every day from the Republicans claim that the biggest problem in the country is the economy, that the president is responsible for this problem, and that the priority of the GOP is the defeat of the president for a second term.  If that's not an admission that Republicans would rather see the economy fail than see the president be credited with an economic turnaround, and therefore win, I don't know how the statement could be made any clearer.

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

    by SueDe on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 05:41:19 AM PDT

  •  The unbelievable friggin unmitigated (6+ / 0-)

    freakin gall of these Republicans is something to behold. They supply side and efficient market us to near oblivion and then they whine about the stimulus although 40% of it is tax cuts, and then they howl about Obama's stewardship of the economy.

    I blame brain-dead Americans who can't see through this BS, though. Wake the heck up America.

  •  Latino evangelicals: Mitts statement not enough (4+ / 0-)
    Mitt Romney’s immigration address before Latino leaders on Thursday didn’t appease one important constituency lining up behind comprehensive immigration reform: evangelicals.

    In a speech to The National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials (NALEO) in Orlando Thursday, Romney said he would “replace” President Obama’s recent immigration policy change with something permanent and a commitment to let young immigrants who serve in the military stay in the country. While touting a commitment to legal immigration, Romney remained vague on what should be done for the millions of undocumented immigrants in the country. “I will address the problem of illegal immigration in a civil but resolute manner,” he said without further explanation.

    Last week, a coalition of evangelical organizations, many led by Latino religious leaders, formed the Evangelical Immigration Table to mobilize support for immigration reform among the evangelical community and put pressure on legislators to pass reform. Members of the group met last week with President Obama’s staff as well as with Florida Sen. Marco Rubio. They told TPM that what Romney laid out Thursday was not enough.

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/...

    "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

    by Bush Bites on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 05:56:19 AM PDT

    •  I listened to most of that speech (2+ / 0-)
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      Romney said the opposite of what he's been saying for the last year at least 4 or 5 times.
      No one in that audience was fooled in the least- to say the applause was unenthusiastic is an understatement.

      Mehlman, however, said Romney's position turned "180 degrees" from the policies he backed in the primary, where he called for self-deportation - strict enforcement causing illegal immigrants to want to return to their country of origin.

      "He wants to bring in lots of additional guest workers despite the fact the biggest issue in this election is unemployment," Mehlman told Hotsheet. Romney said he would increase the number of visas for high-skilled workers and implement a temporary or seasonal worker program.

      As for the president's proposal to allow up to 1.4 million undocumented youth to apply for work visas, Romney did not say if he would overturn it.  

      "This is a guy just a few months ago would veto the DREAM Act as president," Mehlman said, referring to legislation that would give undocumented students the opportunity for residency.

      Sherry with America's Voice said, Romney "he won't offer up details and firmly commit."

      "I can't imagine Romney's [speech] would qualify as leadership on this issue," FAIR's Mehlman said,

      Here's Ali Noorani, executive director of the National Immigration Forum Action Fund, who described the speech perfectly, IMO:
      The Republican Party needs visionary plans to fix the immigration system, not tweaks around the margin where the only path to legal status for grandmothers is to enlist in the military," Noorani said, referring to Romney's endorsement of allowing illegal youth to receive residency through enlisting in the military.
      http://www.cbsnews.com/...

      “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

      by skohayes on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:51:42 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  First veto in modern Colombian history (3+ / 0-)
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    http://www.eltiempo.com/...

    The president sent back a comprehensive reform of the justice system, because the legislators introduced last-minute changes that favored corrupt legislators, or as they're known in Colombia, legislators.

    Romney '12: Bully for America!

    by Rich in PA on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:06:35 AM PDT

    •  Isn't that how legislators in the U.S., (0+ / 0-)

      for the most part, are known too?

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:44:57 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  They're the same human material (0+ / 0-)

        The problem in Colombia is that historically, to preserve legislators from political persecution they have a special disciplinary regime that takes precedence over everyday charges and courts.  The innovation of the last decade has been to get them into the regular system because they've done some pretty serious stuff (like allying with right-wing terrorists, also known as paramilitaries), which is why a third of Congress ended up in jail under Uribe.  Now Congress is trying to reverse all that, out of pretty naked self-interest, which might even be tolerable except those legislators already in jail would be able to petition for release under the "principle of equity."

        Romney '12: Bully for America!

        by Rich in PA on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 07:04:17 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Obama campaign ad: (4+ / 0-)
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    The Romney quote in which he says he'll put in place his own "solution."

    With a simple graphic afterwards.

    "What solution would that be, Governor Romney? Please provide some details. Before the election."

    Freedom has two enemies: Those who want to control everyone around them...and those who feel no need to control themselves.

    by Sirenus on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 06:08:45 AM PDT

  •  Willard vanMittens wants to outsource (1+ / 0-)
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    congress in favor of those industrious Chinese workers which in the case of the GOP might actually be an upgrade and he can INDEED rule by decree except I kind of doubt many will chose to enforce any of his decree's.

  •  I notice part of Romney's speech yesterday was, in (1+ / 0-)
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    effect: "Just build the dang fence!" (How creative and innovative of John...I mean Willard).

  •  speaking of news, anyone else find the NBA (2+ / 0-)
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    unwatchable these days?

    In a 3 minute period, I saw James commit two offensive fouls, clearly travel, then commit a defensive foul. NOT ONE CALL.

    I actually began enjoying the game again, watching the Bulls work their asses off, only to fall to injury and defeat. But with Miami? No way. I refuse.

    What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

    by agnostic on Fri Jun 22, 2012 at 07:06:11 AM PDT

    •  Pacers fan, so I am certainly a 'Heat hater' (2+ / 0-)
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      James was penalized with 1 foul in 5 of the six games against the Pacers and 0 in game 2. The situation wasn't even that preposterous with Jordan.

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