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Republican leaders plan to bring the issue to the floor on Thursday, meaning lawmakers likely will vote on contempt charges on the same day that the U.S. Supreme Court is slated to announce its ruling on the constitutionality of the 2010 health-care reform law.
Washington Post

There's only one way to sweep a vote like this under the rug ... hold it on the same day the SCOTUS announces the long-awaited ACA decision. It's pretty clear that the strategy is to appease the NRA CT true believers by holding the vote while hoping the typical voter doesn't notice that an act unprecedented in the history of our nation is being carried out based on something less credible than a UFO abduction of Darrel Issa's integrity.

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  •  Tip Jar (24+ / 0-)

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Mon Jun 25, 2012 at 03:06:08 PM PDT

  •  Looks like we need to step up production (8+ / 0-)

    of the Golden Douchenozzles.

    Santorum: Man on Dog; Romney: Dog on Car. Ren and Stimpy: Dog on Cat equalitymaine.org

    by commonmass on Mon Jun 25, 2012 at 03:10:59 PM PDT

  •  Issa's in a nasty little position after (8+ / 0-)

    stating on the Sunday Bobblehead shows that the WH was not involved with F&F.  

  •  Congrats on the longest sentence (4+ / 0-)
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    blue aardvark, Kinak, ColoTim, ZedMont

    ...I've seen in quite awhile ;-)


    Reality: "The world doesn't work that way."
    Pluto: "So? Change the world."

    by Pluto on Mon Jun 25, 2012 at 03:21:31 PM PDT

  •  Nancy should make clear that any D voting in favor (4+ / 0-)

    should be instantly kicked out of the party, any gavel taken, funds taken and run a write in campaign in his/her district. Period.

    •  There MIGHT be a few defections (3+ / 0-)
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      ColoTim, ZedMont, luckylizard

      The NRA has declared total war on this one. And some Democrats might not want the NRA on the other side.

      If they can't find a pretext for their 4 years of "Obama will be coming for your guns any day now, just you wait" fund raising campaign, even their donors might start to wise up.

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Mon Jun 25, 2012 at 03:35:14 PM PDT

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      •  Whatever (1+ / 0-)
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        msmacgyver

        The NRA is a Right Wing tool. A Democrat may be a 30 years member, active hunter and in favor of conceal carry cruise missiles and they will still endorse the Republican lawyer or lobbyist that the closer he's been to a gun is hunting teddy bears in a fair.

        If they vote against Holder on this they need to go.

  •  I read on TPM or Think Progress or Crooks (12+ / 0-)

    and Liars how this will run. Even if the Rs vote to impeach, 1) the Senate won't touch it and 2) even if they did, the process would not be complete before this Congress ends and these matters cannot be carried over.

    I really think every f*cking Republican House member and Senator needs to give back every goddam penny they collected in wages since January 2009.

    They have done nothing useful.

    •  Won't make a doggamned bit of difference to them. (2+ / 0-)
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      ZedMont, blue aardvark

      They're mostly, if not entirely, millionaires and don't need their salaries at all, plus they're going to be rich after they retire (voluntarily or not) from Congress through their jobs on K-Street.

    •  What did I miss? (1+ / 0-)
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      ZedMont
      Even if the Rs vote to impeach
      I thought this was a contempt of congress charge.

      When someone is impatient and says, "I haven't got all day," I always wonder, How can that be? How can you not have all day? George Carlin

      by msmacgyver on Mon Jun 25, 2012 at 04:37:15 PM PDT

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      •  Good point. What exactly could happen to Holder (1+ / 0-)
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        msmacgyver

        if both the House and Senate voted to do whatever it is that they can do to him that I don't know what is?

        History merely repeats itself; it doesn't cure its own ills. That is the burden of the present.

        by ZedMont on Mon Jun 25, 2012 at 05:32:34 PM PDT

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        •  If I remember correctly, this is the (2+ / 0-)
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          ZedMont, blue aardvark

          first time the US Attorney General would be charged so all bets might be off, but this is a very brief excerpt from Wiki:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/...

          Following a contempt citation, the presiding officer of the chamber is instructed to refer the matter to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia; according to the law it is the "duty" of the U.S. Attorney to refer the matter to a grand jury for action.

          The criminal offense of "contempt of Congress" sets the penalty at not less than one month nor more than twelve months in jail and a fine of not less than $100 nor more than $1,000.

          When someone is impatient and says, "I haven't got all day," I always wonder, How can that be? How can you not have all day? George Carlin

          by msmacgyver on Mon Jun 25, 2012 at 06:04:06 PM PDT

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          •  He ought to just turn over the docs. (0+ / 0-)

            Principle be damned. Just dump the docs. What could they contain that's so bad?

          •  One other question. How do they get around the (2+ / 0-)
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            msmacgyver, doinaheckuvanutjob

            executive privilege?  How can they hold Holder (a little alliteration going on there) in contempt when the President he reports to refuses to allow him to release the documents?

            What authority does Congress hold someone in contempt for refusing to release documents he's not authorized by the President to release?

            Seems like they should have to go after Obama to me.

            History merely repeats itself; it doesn't cure its own ills. That is the burden of the present.

            by ZedMont on Mon Jun 25, 2012 at 06:45:18 PM PDT

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            •  Doubtful, sounds more like they're blowing smoke. (2+ / 0-)
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              msmacgyver, ZedMont

              And if this is 'referred' to the US Atty for DC, I can't imagine that that US Atty will do anything about it. It will die there, but that's what the Repigs count on, so that they can make a ton of noise without any pesky exoneration or process that shows their case is moronic.

              24/7, it's all 'Great news for Romney!'

              by doinaheckuvanutjob on Mon Jun 25, 2012 at 07:30:07 PM PDT

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            •  Lovely alliteration :) (1+ / 0-)
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              ZedMont

              Issa is an idiot and his investigation has turned into a farce complete with RW conspiracy theories and over the top rhetoric.  I do not believe that the contempt charge will pass the House but if it does, I do think that Holder and Obama will actually win this one.

              Here's some precedent from GW Bush...

              http://en.wikipedia.org/...

              The Bush administration invoked executive privilege on six occasions.

              President George W. Bush first asserted executive privilege to deny disclosure of sought details regarding former Attorney General Janet Reno, the scandal involving Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) misuse of organized-crime informants James J. Bulger and Stephen Flemmi in Boston, and Justice Department deliberations about President Bill Clinton's fundraising tactics, in December 2001.

              Bush invoked executive privilege "in substance" in refusing to disclose the details of Vice President Dick Cheney's meetings with energy executives, which was not appealed by the GAO. In a separate Supreme Court decision in 2004, however, Justice Anthony Kennedy noted "Executive privilege is an extraordinary assertion of power 'not to be lightly invoked.' United States v. Reynolds, 345 U.S. 1, 7 (1953).

              "Once executive privilege is asserted, coequal branches of the Government are set on a collision course. The Judiciary is forced into the difficult task of balancing the need for information in a judicial proceeding and the Executive’s Article II prerogatives. This inquiry places courts in the awkward position of evaluating the Executive’s claims of confidentiality and autonomy, and pushes to the fore difficult questions of separation of powers and checks and balances. These 'occasion[s] for constitutional confrontation between the two branches' are likely to be avoided whenever possible. United States v. Nixon, supra, at 692."

              Further, on June 28, 2007, Bush invoked executive privilege in response to congressional subpoenas requesting documents from former presidential counsel Harriet Miers and former political director Sara Taylor, citing that:

              The reason for these distinctions rests upon a bedrock presidential prerogative: for the President to perform his constitutional duties, it is imperative that he receive candid and unfettered advice and that free and open discussions and deliberations occur among his advisors and between those advisors and others within and outside the Executive Branch. continued...

              When someone is impatient and says, "I haven't got all day," I always wonder, How can that be? How can you not have all day? George Carlin

              by msmacgyver on Mon Jun 25, 2012 at 07:30:52 PM PDT

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