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Sorry folks, but what I see is sort of stomach turning, reading so many rushing to praise Roberts here and elsewhere. One real victor here in the short term is the for-profit insurance industry, which has got the green light to take on tens of millions of new customers, with the blessing of the government and courts. It's yet more profit for an industry that shouldn't even exist to begin with.

And yes, it's nice to see President Obama 'win' this for political reasons, but the ACA is really just a slightly modified version of what Republicans offered in 1994 as an alternative to Hillary Clinton's proposals. Remind all the Republicans of that - that ACA is simply modified from that plan and Romney's plan in MA. Because truly, that is a factual analysis.

YES. It's excellent news for millions who have no coverage at all that can they can get into the system even at reduced rates, but ultimately it supports a separate but equal type of health care, where the wealthy continue to get better care. I am more than happy that folks will be able to try and avoid being driven into destitution and agony over health issues. but it's not a fair answer. This is just a step forward.

It would have been horribly disruptive to the lives of so many if the court had decided to strike down the ACA, but ultimately I do not believe it was the welfare of the people or even the law that was Robert's concern. To me, it looks like Roberts' is playing a weird political game, sort of a twisted version of "only Nixon could go to China". I don't know what his angle is, all I know is that I still don't trust him at all. Maybe he's finding some back door way to wreck the Commerce Clause.

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The bottom line is, we are celebrating a continuation of a health care insurance system that's simply unethical and immoral. I know - it's better than what it was, but we owe it to ourselves not to lose sight of the bigger moral legal and ethical questions.  

The purpose of health insurance is to help society as a whole deal with illnesses of the individual to prevent disruption to the society as a whole. Hopefully, it shows we've evolved past the stage where we simply leave the sick to die, as the rest of the herd moves on.  

Profit need not be part of this process; the ethical conundrums that result when profit becomes a variable in the final equation of delivering health care to human beings seems to me to be morally repugnant.

Bernie Sanders is making the point, and I stand with him on this wholeheartedly in this statement he posted today.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/...

"In my view, while the Affordable Care Act is an important step in the right direction and I am glad that the Supreme Court upheld it, we ultimately need to do better.  If we are serious about providing high-quality, affordable healthcare as a right, not a privilege, the real solution to America's health care crisis is a Medicare-for-all, single-payer system. Until then, we will remain the only major nation that does not provide health care for every man, woman and child as a right of citizenship."

Bernie is right - and the ACA is a step in the right direction. But ultimate goal would be abolition of for-profit private health care, a system which must lead and does always lead to separate and unequal health care. Ethically and morally, every person [yes, even globally] deserves the same level and quality of health care - this cannot happen if some people are pampered with private plans in private hospitals.

I know, it seems like an impossible goal, but we should at least recognize that if we 'value human life', no matter what our national or political bent, we should be willing to see that health care is a basic human right.

I know, I'm a hopeless idealist, but to me making 'profit' from deciding who gets what level of care should never be a part of it.

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  •  Tip Jar (13+ / 0-)

    Republicans totally abandoned conservatism in the 1980s ..

    by shpilk on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 06:26:21 PM PDT

  •  First steps can be celebrated. (8+ / 0-)

    And everyone--Including the President--knows this is a first step.

    Implement and Improve.

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 06:33:37 PM PDT

  •  It's a start. No one ever said it was the (8+ / 0-)

    finish line.  We've got a long way to go, but at least we aren't starting over!  Starting over would have meant another decade of waste and loss of life.

    baby steps.  I'd love giant steps, but I'll take baby steps any day.

    Was a cold and dark December when the banks became cathedrals...

    by althea in il on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 06:34:59 PM PDT

  •  Tomorrow I am being laid off. (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    beltane, 3goldens, Glinda, We Won

    My partner and I are covered by my company's health care policy.  My partner has pre existing conditions.  

    Neither of us has had a good night's sleep since I was notified of my layoff 2 months ago, mostly due to the insurance issue (I should be able to get enough clients freelance to make our other payments, but healthcare was going to be the pink elephant in the room because it was going to be just too expensive).  So this "win" really does make it possible for us to keep our home and move forward.

    Generally speaking, conservative or moderate Supreme Court justices tend to move left as they serve.  Whizzer White is just about the only exception I know of who moved right, while there are many examples of the leftward movement.  I have a teeny tiny wee hope in my heart that this is early evidence of the very beginnings of a leftward drift by Roberts.  Nah, probably not.  But he did the right thing today, to the fury of the rightwing.  Hope is better than cynicism.  So, at least for today, I have hope.  

    "The next time I tell you someone from Texas should not be president of the United States, please, pay attention." Molly Ivins

    by janmtairy on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 06:40:35 PM PDT

  •  As Rachel just said: Sell it NOW. Because they (5+ / 0-)

    will be spending a billion on more "death panel" and "tax hike" anti ACA ads.

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 06:45:47 PM PDT

  •  Today (0+ / 0-)

    the Supreme Court said that by 2014, I have to have health insurance.  Next week, I'm interviewing for a job that provides health insurance and retirement benefits (though the bad news is that the latter will be at the mercy of Teabaggers in Austin whenever they get a hardon to cut government spending.)

    28, white male, TX-26 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

    by TDDVandy on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 06:52:29 PM PDT

  •  roberts will get little praise from me (1+ / 0-)
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    3goldens

    He's a corporate tool who voted correctly on one very large case.  Even rehnquist did that and he was an ideological tool.  I'd have to research it, but I think even scalia hasn't pissed me off on one or two decisions.  Most justices vote correctly on occasion, although there are exceptions (thomas, maybe alito although it's still early for him).  roberts voted correctly this time.  THIS time.

    A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

    by dougymi on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 07:05:10 PM PDT

  •  Don't Worry Be Happy (0+ / 0-)

    at least for today anyway.  This is just the start of real universal health care.  I don't want private healthcare insurance to die because I believe that you can have both.  A true government healthcare plan and a supplemental plan that private healthcare plans can offer.  

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 07:15:55 PM PDT

    •  What? Me Worry? (1+ / 0-)
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      shpilk
      This is just the start of real universal health care.
      It ain't real, it ain't universal and it ain't health care.

      Other than that there are some very bad things along with indisputable good.

      I will continue to worry. Contentment is for cows and you know how that works for them.

      Best,  Terry

  •  Was this decision really good news? (0+ / 0-)

    I expected SCOTUS to kill ACA. And I expected a huge backlash from that. "You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone".

    Now it's the right wing that will be energized. Maybe Roberts was just the smartest wingnut on the Court.

    GOP: Bankers, billionaires, suckers, and dupes.

    by gzodik on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 09:42:42 PM PDT

  •  The ACA is kinda weak, (0+ / 0-)

    but it is better. I wouldn't call it good, but hey, who am I to argue with even a baby step.

    As for Roberts ... you always gotta be careful when teaming up with the enemy. The proper procedure is to use the bad guy until he is no longer useful, then betray him before he betrays you. Becuase on TV, the good guys always wait a bit too long or trust a little too much and the bad guy screws them over because they hesitated.

  •  We should not be praising Justice Roberts..... (0+ / 0-)

    the sneaky little trick that the 5 Justices stated was that this is a tax.   That I'm afraid will come back to haunt us.

  •  The game is called Rotating Villains (0+ / 0-)

    and both parties play it regularly.

    Obama 2012: For More Wars!

    by chipmo on Fri Jun 29, 2012 at 06:23:45 AM PDT

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