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No license to steal? No Medicaid for Florida.
Before Rick Scott was elected governor of Florida, he was implicated in one of the biggest Medicare fraud cases in history. Scott was CEO of Columbia/HCA when it was fined $1.7 billion and found guilty of swindling the government. Later, Scott invoked the Fifth Amendment 75 times in a 2000 deposition in a later civil case.

Well, Scott is out of the business of defrauding the federal government of funds for health care, but he is now in the business of depriving Floridians of federal funds dedicated to helping them get better, or any, health care at all. In a way, Scott is still doing what he was doing. But for less direct profit now.

Maybe that's why Rick Scott is saying no to Medicaid expansion:

Florida is not going to implement Obamacare. We are not going to expand Medicaid and we're not going to implement exchanges,'' Scott's spokesman Lane Wright told The Associated Press on Saturday.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:20 AM PDT.

Also republished by DKos Florida.

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  •  Let the people of FL speak. They do not like (42+ / 0-)

    Gov Gollum as it is.

    Take the FL money and provide it to states that will take the money. Problem fixed. You dont want it, someone else does.

    Mitt Romney deserves a lot of credit for creating Mitt Romney.

    by A Runner on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:23:24 AM PDT

    •  Floridians have already spoken (8+ / 0-)

      and they voted overwhelmingly for SOB T-publicans because they didn't want the benefits of modern healthcare.  You can lead those horses' asses to medicine but you can't make them take it.  I agree give the money to states where the people deserve it.

    •  Schadenfederalism: Bring it on! (3+ / 0-)

      This is EXACTLY what needs to happen. Actually let the Republican led states experience the consequences of the policies demanded by the representatives they elect. If they want someone who wants to block any money or assistance or programs for their state - well that's exactly what they want - so they SHOULD get the representation they voted for. If they don't like it, then they should get some sanity and vote for someone else.

      To the sociopath, the pain of others is alien until they actually feel it themselves. Let them.

      There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why...
      I dream of things that never were, and ask why not? ~ Robert Kennedy

      by Reality Bites Back on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 10:30:06 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  The problem as I understand it, is that the states (0+ / 0-)

        get to accept any and all federal monies, yet do not have to use them for the intended purposes.  This is a major problem resulting from the SCOTUS decision (not to mention the apparent neutering of the Commerce Clause).

        Real plastic here; none of that new synthetic stuff made from chicken feathers. By the morning of 9/12/2001 the people of NYC had won the War on Terror.

        by triplepoint on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 10:39:49 AM PDT

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  •  What's up with FL electing this guy in the first (25+ / 0-)

    place?  At least in IL, our governors wait to become criminals until after they are elected!

    Scott to constituents:  Party loyalty first, so screw you!

    Despicable, cold, cowardly.

    Was a cold and dark December when the banks became cathedrals...

    by althea in il on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:23:38 AM PDT

  •  This smacks of very short term thinking (22+ / 0-)

    for Republicans.

    When people in blue states are getting Federally funded Medicaid and affordable health care, and people in red states are showing up at the emergency room and billing the state governments therefore, I don't think it's going to be a net political win for Republicans.

    I also wonder if the Federal government can stop picking up part of the tab for emergency room visits by people who would be covered by Medicare were it implemented in a state.

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:23:42 AM PDT

    •  it does seem (16+ / 0-)

      that the states making the most noise about how terrible health-care is are all in the south, where states receive far more in governmental returns than they pay in.

      But after several years of residence in NC, I'm pretty sure there's something in the air, or the water, that triggers Teh Stoopid: NC lege just overrode the governor's veto that would have disallowed fracking in-state.

      Dream as if you’ll live forever. Live as if you’ll die today. -- James Dean

      by Mnemosyne on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:28:21 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I know. (5+ / 0-)

        It's so depressing.  And the Rethugs are busily consolidating their power made possible by Art Pope, a Koch brothers wanna-be.  If we don't put Democrats back in power in the state government, this will continue and we will soon be one notch below Mississippi in everything. But, you are right, I don't have a lot of faith in my fellow NC voters. I live in Virginia Foxx's district and, even though we are in a very liberal community, they simply dilute our vote through gerrymandering so that we have no representation.

        What's even worse is the new Democratic candidate for governor, Walter Dalton, came out for fracking and against Bev Purdue's brave stand in vetoing it. It feels like there's no hope.

    •  The way I understand it, the Feds will no longer (3+ / 0-)

      be reimbursing hospitals in those states for the ER visits by the indigent and uninsured.  The way those people will be covered is either by the exchanges, or by the Medicaid expansion.  If you are a state that decides to reject the Medicaid expansion, you will essentially be 100% on your own for the bill for the uninsured.

      That would seem to be a pretty big stick that the Federal government will have to coerce even the reddest of states into participation in the Medicare expansion.  The hospitals in those states will either have to turn away the indigent and uninsured at the door, or face unreimbursed bills for costly treatment that will either have to be paid entirely by the state itself, or just remain unpaid.  If they go unpaid, the financial footings of that medical establishment will be undermined pretty quickly.  

      And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

      by MrJersey on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:42:47 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  You make an assumption (4+ / 0-)
        The hospitals in those states will either have to turn away the indigent and uninsured at the door, or face unreimbursed bills for costly treatment that will either have to be paid entirely by the state itself, or just remain unpaid.  If they go unpaid, the financial footings of that medical establishment will be undermined pretty quickly.  
        Exactly why would Republicans view the bolded text as a bad thing? They'll buy them bus tickets to the nearest blue state.

        In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

        by blue aardvark on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:46:09 AM PDT

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      •  Hospitals Cannot (10+ / 0-)

        Turn away the uninsured across the board.  EMTALA prohibits it.

        What will really happen is that suddenly the poorest of the poor will be getting 5-figure medical bills and being turned over to collection when they can't pay them, or even criminalized as the Times aptly documented yesterday by collection agencies who get judgments against them for the money.

        The question is how long of a cycle of that has to happen before the poor folks who are knee-jerk Republicans throw the Scotts of the world out on their ear.

        •  But don't those collection agencies know that (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          blue aardvark

          those bills will never be paid?  You will have trouble getting money from people who have no money.  Unless we wish to start new debtor's prisons, those judgements will never be paid.  Things are starting to look Dickensian, however, so I do not doubt that Governor Scott will try to revive the concept of the debtor's prison.

          And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

          by MrJersey on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 09:00:12 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Indeed, getting a judgement does not (0+ / 0-)

            translate into receiving payment for that judgement.

            "A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned to walk forward." - Franklin D. Roosevelt

            by bobski on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 10:59:53 AM PDT

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    •  And to Aardvark's point that it smacks of short- (5+ / 0-)

      term thinking, I would postulate that the modern Republican party is a performance art project of short-term thinking these days, if they are thinking at all.

      And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

      by MrJersey on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:44:45 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I would bet (6+ / 0-)

      That to many red state voters, a different state is like a foreign country. The political utility of comparison doesn't work for them because they don't really know what is going on outside of their little slice of Americana.

      Sure they might go on vacation to somewhere else, but that doesn't mean they look into how the healthcare is distributed or paid for so they really won't be any wiser.

      Beside, they get all their info from hate-wing radio and Fox, and you know that those guys aren't letting the cat out of the bag.

      The only difference between (Mitt) Romney and George W. Bush is that Romney hasn't destroyed the American economy, yet - MoT

      by Herodotus Prime on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 09:05:44 AM PDT

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  •  I still don't understand (13+ / 0-)

    why this guy is not in jail. What the hell is going on?

  •  a worthless comment, but Skelator is the perfect (8+ / 0-)

    name for this crook. That is all.

    If the plutocrats begin the program, we will end it. -- Eugene Debs.

    by livjack on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:25:37 AM PDT

  •  The people of Florida will get their care anyway. (14+ / 0-)

    My reading of the ACA suggests that the Federal government will set up an exchange if the state won't set one up.  The money therefore doesn't go through the state.

    And when Floridians wake up and either impeach this SOB or vote him out of office, the next governor can expand medicaide.

    The Scout Law (trustworthy, loyal, helpful...) is a GREAT liberal manifesto.

    by DaytonMike on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:26:44 AM PDT

    •  He is talking about the Medicaid expansion, which (12+ / 0-)

      apparently the states have the power to reject.  

      And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

      by MrJersey on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:28:41 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  They are allowed to reject it after the SC ruling. (1+ / 0-)
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      donnamarie

      The states were given the power to reject the Medicaid expansion.

      •  And I believe, the federal government has to (0+ / 0-)

        give them the money just the same?

        Romney - his fingernails have never been anything but manicured.

        by Pescadero Bill on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 09:14:03 AM PDT

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        •  No. If they don't expand Medicaid, they don't get (5+ / 0-)

          the money for the expansion. They DO get to keep the money they're already getting for their current Medicaid program, though.

        •  Well yes, in a way. The government wanted to (0+ / 0-)

          be able to pull all Medicaid funding for everyone  from a state that would not comply with ACA but the SC ruled that the government could not do that and that the State could reject expanding Medicaid without facing that penalty.

          However, it is my understanding that even the states who do expand Medicaid, will only get government help to do so until 2020.  Starting in 2016, the federal government wills lowly decrease the amount of money given to a state until that decrease reaches 90% by 2020. So the states who refuse to expand at all...are not going to be punished much at all, if considering the issue of the states paying for it in 5 years anyway, even if they comply.

          http://www.nytimes.com/...

          •  even when the states pay 10% (1+ / 0-)
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            Nance

            that will be way less than the cost of un-reimbursed care they will face without the medicaid expansion.

            As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

            by BPARTR on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 09:51:01 AM PDT

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            •  No, the states will be paying 90% not 10% in 2020 (0+ / 0-)
              •  No, just the opposite. (2+ / 0-)
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                glorificus, Alice Olson

                (3) FEDERAL FUNDING FOR COST OF COVERING NEWLY ELIGIBLE
                http://www.reddit.com/...

                INDIVIDUALS.—Section 1905 of the Social Security Act (42
                U.S.C. 1396d), is amended—
                (A) in subsection (b), in the first sentence, by inserting
                ‘‘subsection (y) and’’ before ‘‘section 1933(d)’’; and
                (B) by adding at the end the following new subsection:
                ‘‘(y) INCREASED FMAP FOR MEDICAL ASSISTANCE FOR NEWLY
                ELIGIBLE MANDATORY INDIVIDUALS.—
                ‘‘(1) AMOUNT OF INCREASE.—øReplaced by section
                1201(1)(B) of HCERA¿ Notwithstanding subsection (b), the
                Federal medical assistance percentage for a State that is one
                of the 50 States or the District of Columbia, with respect to
                amounts expended by such State for medical assistance for
                newly eligible individuals described in subclause (VIII) of section
                1902(a)(10)(A)(i), shall be equal to—
                ‘‘(A) 100 percent for calendar quarters in 2014, 2015,
                and 2016;
                ‘‘(B) 95 percent for calendar quarters in 2017;
                ‘‘(C) 94 percent for calendar quarters in 2018;
                ‘‘(D) 93 percent for calendar quarters in 2019; and
                ‘‘(E) 90 percent for calendar quarters in 2020 and each
                year thereafter.

          •  The States Who Refuse The Medicaid Expansion Will (0+ / 0-)

            eventually get punished - although by the time that happens, Governor Skeletor will probably be out of office. Here is how it happens: By opting out of the Medicaid expansion, Florida gets to keep the Medicaid reimbursement they already have, but will NOT get any extra Medicaid money for expansion. The baby boomers are retiring in droves over the next 10+ years (and a lot of them are retiring to Florida). A lot of those baby boomers (maybe 50%?) are not using Medicaid NOW, but will need it in the future to pay for nursing home costs. That will put Florida in the path of a tsunami of Rick Scott's making - how is Florida gonna pay for all those aging baby boomers who need future nursing home care IF they refuse to expand Medicaid? Only Rick Scott knows for sure. The Dems in Florida should be running ads about this upcoming nightmare right now.

    •  Is the Federal exchange national? (0+ / 0-)

      That is, if all the red states were to decline to set up their own state level exchanges, would people then be able to apply to a single federal exchange or just a federal run state-level exchange?

      If the former, the irony of this is that citizens of the red states might be the first to have access to a universal national single-payer insurance system.

  •  Why not cut them off? (1+ / 0-)
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    Alice Olson

    Here's a question:

    OK so from what I'm reading if the states fail to form a health insurance exchange under the new law then the feds step in and form one.

    Also for the medicaid expansion if the states don't want to do it why not just not give them the funds?

    I would think that if a state expands the medicaid program that means that people who are paying out of pocket won't have to pay, and will have more money to spend. Also if the feds are paying 100% then that essentially amounts to a slight stimulus giving working people more money?

    Then if they don't have the exchanges people will just pay the penalty and show up in the ER and it will cause everybodies insurance costs to go up.

    So if the red states want to do that why not let them so people can see a contrast and move to the blue states, or vote out their wingnut leaders??

  •  Translation: (11+ / 0-)
    "Florida is not going to implement Obamacare. We are not going to expand Medicaid and we're not going to implement exchanges,''
    Florida is not going to allow, for purely partisan and political reasons, anyone to benefit from a government program designed to help the least among us. We believe we do not have to do so, as our corporate masters have dictated that people truly do come second next to the almighty dollar.

    Fuck you.

    Hillary Sent Me. OBAMA/BIDEN '12 @HillaryzMyHmgrl

    by HillaryIsMyHomegirl on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:28:28 AM PDT

  •  Where do Floridians get their news? (3+ / 0-)
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    dhajra, Aquarius40, Alice Olson

    Isn't Florida mainly comprised of seniors and immigrants?  Who keeps voting for this shit stain?

    These are not the droids you're looking for. Move along.

    by darlalalala on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:28:34 AM PDT

  •  Go Rick Go! (3+ / 0-)
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    Cedwyn, dhajra, appledown

    If you don't want the hundreds of millions of dollars pumped into Florida to insure your massive list of uninsured people, then we'll be happy to have that money dispersed to those states that do.

    Not sure how having the feds pick up the tab to help millions of Floridians stay healthy is a drag on your jobs situation, but whatever.

    Let's let the people of Florida make their opinion known in November, you beautiful, bald dingbat that keeps giving Obama openings for a second term. Can't thank you enough!

  •  Refusing funds is idiotic (4+ / 0-)

    and I dare one of these radicals to give it a try. It'll be a great re-election tactic.

    Re-elect Barack Obama and elect Elizabeth Warren

    by al23 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:29:27 AM PDT

  •  The healthcare nazi is all..... (4+ / 0-)
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    Cedwyn, MrJersey, Kinak, appledown

    NO HEALTHCARE FOR YOU....NEXT!!!!

  •  How do you convince voters that turning down.. (7+ / 0-)

    ...billions of federal dollars that your state is sending to DC in the form of your income taxes is a good thing? The 10th Amendment? That it is better that your tax dollars go to San Francisco than to you and/or your state? Government overreach? When you, your family, friends, or co-workers are suffering without care, as is not happening in San Francisco? Broccoli?

    Wow. The dissonance. Just fracking wow!

    "Force is as pitiless to the man who possesses it, or thinks he does, as it is to its victims; the second it crushes, the first it intoxicates.” Simone Weil

    by chuco35 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:31:09 AM PDT

    •  Red Staters may actually have to come to terms (1+ / 0-)
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      Aquarius40

      with the fact that they are actually more dependent on Federal funding than are the Blue State people, you know, those states where people actually produce the incomes that keep the economy going.  

      And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

      by MrJersey on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:51:18 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Because when certain people can't get (4+ / 0-)

      insurance, even though they would qualify through the Medicaid expansion, then FOX news will just tell them to blame it on Obama.

      "At stake are not just the details of policy, but fundamental principles of social justice and the character of our country." ~Sen. Ted Kennedy

      by Wendy in FL on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 10:17:17 AM PDT

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  •  I think a lot of the Republican gubernatorial (17+ / 0-)

    overreach (not just in Florida, but Louisiana and other states, too) is because they recognize that the ACA (and whatever it may evolve into in the future) is this generations Social Security or Medicare...it's going to become a third rail if they don't kill it before it grows, and that third rail will (again) be a solidly Democratic creation. So if they can keep enough of their residents from actually SEEING how effective it can be and what a benefit it will be, they can keep that many more people out of that sphere of influence.

    Of course, people in this country are MUCH more interconnected than they used to be. Local conditions don't make up the be-all and end-all of life when you can chat with your cousin or grandson in Boston or San Jose every evening on Facebook. So I think they're really misreading this tactic and they're off by about 25 years on how effective it's going to be.

    The last time the Republicans were this radical, they were working to elect former slaves to Congress. What a difference a century and a half makes!

    by jayjaybear on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:31:55 AM PDT

  •  it's really important that you focus (8+ / 0-)

    on how much federal money he's turning his back on.  

    Overall, the federal government will finance about 95 percent of the cost of the Medicaid expansion from 2014 to 2019. The federal government will cover 100 percent of the states’ cost of covering newly eligible Medicaid beneficiaries from 2014 to 2016 and will then phase down its federal contribution to 90 percent by 2020. Coverage for previously eligible Medicaid beneficiaries will continue to be financed through a matching system between the states and the federal government which currently ranges from 50% to 74% federal funding
    above taken from Kaiser family site
  •  Love that picture of him. (4+ / 0-)
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    OleHippieChick, Cedwyn, dhajra, Aquarius40

    "Ghaaaaaaaa, Braaaaaaaaaaaiiinnnnssssss."

    "Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." - John Steinbeck

    by Bulldawg on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:32:30 AM PDT

  •  typical dog in the manger attitude (3+ / 0-)

    now that he is out of private practice and can't steal the money for himself, nobody else can steal it either.

    Georgia is going to have to decide,  let's see if a little time and being outside of electin season can make our chief executive see reason.   I personally think he really wants to take that money, it would greatly help Georgians, but also Georgia's medical establishments that have high ER visitation and losses.  We would get close to a billion dollars of mostly blue state money.    What's not to love about red state welfare?

    http://www.bizjournals.com/...

  •  Rick is not just another Republican asshole (5+ / 0-)

    I suggest that he is the asshole's asshole.

    "There's no ideology [t]here [on the right]. It's just about being a dick." Bill Maher, June 22, 2012.

    by caseynm on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:33:59 AM PDT

  •  How did this loser get elected in the first place? (4+ / 0-)

    I don't understand.  Surely his criminal past came up during the election??  Not only is Rick Scott ugly on the outside, he is ugly on the inside too.  Jeez Florida, wake up and smell the coffee brewing.  This guy doesn't care one whit about any of you.  (Unless you have a campaign check for him).  Why do people go against their own self interest?

    The woman with the maroon hair had fallen to her knees and was asking the sky, “What I done wrong, God? Tell me, Lord. I been good.” “You’re kneeling on Rex’s grave!” Ignatius shouted.

    by gracielove on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:34:04 AM PDT

    •  I guess the R next to his name got him elected (3+ / 0-)
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      dhajra, Brooke In Seattle, gracielove

      in an election year that was bad for Democrats across the country except for a few states like CA.

      Follow PA Keystone Liberals on Twitter: @KeystoneLibs

      by wishingwell on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:43:49 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Alex Sink was a banker with BOA. (1+ / 0-)
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      gracielove

      In 2010, a banker was a bad thing to be.

      Apparently people who voted for him over Alex Sink preferred Medicare fraud (which was just fraud against a government entitlement, you understand) to someone who was is any way affiliated with the  economic crisis.

      "At stake are not just the details of policy, but fundamental principles of social justice and the character of our country." ~Sen. Ted Kennedy

      by Wendy in FL on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 10:20:49 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  The hospitals in Florida will start having to foot (13+ / 0-)

    the bill for the uninsured and indigent that pour into the Emergency Rooms every day since they will no longer be reimbursed by the Feds for their care.  They way that they will be paid for indigent care will be through this Medicaid expansion, something that these Republican Governors say they will reject on ideological grounds.  

    Do you really think that the medical establishment in Florida, the legions of doctors, clinics, and hospitals will sit still as they see their crazy Governor reject their funding because he wants to show how much he is against "Obamacare"?  These Governors will be brought very much in line by the medical establishments in each conservative state as the hospitals face the decision of kicking the poor and indigent out of their ER's, taking the Medicaid expansion, or going bankrupt.  

    And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

    by MrJersey on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:35:22 AM PDT

  •  I see this as a double-edged sword (1+ / 0-)
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    A Runner

    There is no doubt that in order for those people in various states that can't afford health care insurance are going to have to have an avenue to get it under Obamacare.  I mean, it's law now...indisputable law.  So, where are these people going to get that health care insurance?  It is going to HAVE to come from some level of government either through credits or inexpensive exchanges supported by states or the federal government.  Medicaid is, in large part, funded through state monies.  Yes, it's supported by federal funds, but the expansion being called for is something states will have to pick up...but they can opt out on that if they choose to do so, as I understand it.

    What then?  We have emergency rooms overflowing with people uninsured.  No, not everywhere, but in a great many places throughout the U.S.  We have poor and people on low fixed incomes that absolutely cannot afford to just go out and purchase health insurance now just because the government says they have to.  It's the old "blood out of a turnip" thingy.

    I see more taxation by those that can afford it in order to offer insurance to those that cannot afford it...there's just no other way.  This one isn't going to be real vivid until all of the "provisions" are put into effect.  It will be interesting, to say the least.

    Me?  I'm okay with states saying: "hey, we're going to increase EVERYONE'S taxes through an increase in the sales tax with the increase dedicated to specific efforts to help these people attain health insurance.  But, you gotta know that this would be totally politically unpopular, so I don't know WHAT people are going to do.

    The truth is sometimes very inconvenient.

    by commonsensically on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:38:02 AM PDT

  •  Fucking amazing, isn't it? (9+ / 0-)

    I swear to gods there's a lockbox on the Medicaid dough and, since fucking Mongo of Tallahassee can't get his itchy, thieving fingers on it, he don't want it.
    Fuck the doomed, kill the poor. That was the gist of my email to his fugliness this AM.

    rMoney: Just another jerk, lookin' for work.

    Where have you gone, 50-state strategy?
    Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

    by OleHippieChick on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:38:18 AM PDT

  •  Had to put this on my Facebook (1+ / 0-)
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    OleHippieChick

    Really good headline, I copied your first paragraph and then linked.  Your headline pops up highlighted.  It looks great :)

  •  Yes you are, you heartless freak. (1+ / 0-)
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    OleHippieChick

    If you never let the facts get in the way of what you believe, you just might be a Republican.

    by kitebro on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:45:06 AM PDT

  •  Thief! (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    dhajra

    "It's tough to take republicans seriously when their entire ideology can be explained perfectly by a 13 yr. old and a 14 yr. old."---Bill Maher

    by lyvwyr101 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:45:52 AM PDT

  •  what an inspiring story of redemption! (2+ / 0-)
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    GOPGO2H3LL, althea in il

    Only in America!!

  •  If Dems wanted to play rough, it appears that (4+ / 0-)

    a well-timed and executed effort to inform the public as to exactly what is in the ACA and that their gov wont allow the ACA to be implemented, could go a long way toward it receiving broader popular support.

    I agree that the gop want to step in and crush the ACA before it can become accepted and expected.

    If the ACA has been deemed constitutional, why not have FL citizens sue the state in order to get those benefits that are, by rights, theirs.

    Mitt Romney deserves a lot of credit for creating Mitt Romney.

    by A Runner on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:47:17 AM PDT

  •  Alex Sink should never show her face again (4+ / 0-)

    If you can't beat this snakeheaded criminal in FLORIDA ... then, what?  I mean it's bad but not Mississippi or Utah.  

    •  Her last name sums it up. (0+ / 0-)

      Obama is at war with radical anti-American terrorists. The radical GOP is at war with American women. Take that and run with it DNC, you inept fucking pikers.

      by GOPGO2H3LL on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:50:46 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  OMFG, the campaign she (didn't) run..... (0+ / 0-)

      She sounded like a frikkin dimwit addressing new college grads or something and mislabeling the school, not once or twice, but three times. 10-frikkin watt bulb. Man, I held my nose.

      rMoney: Just another jerk, lookin' for work.

      Where have you gone, 50-state strategy?
      Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

      by OleHippieChick on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:51:15 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Why are they against exchanges? (2+ / 0-)
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    GOPGO2H3LL, mungley

    Of all the parts of Obamacare/ACA, this one seems to be the most market-friendly... it creates an actual market for buying health insurance. (as opposed to what we have now, which is a morass of confusion).

    What possible argument are they using to say "we aren't doing exchanges"? It just boggles the mind. What are the Florida voters going to do when they see exchanges in other states, and ask "why can't we buy insurance like that?"

    Freedom isn't free. So quit whining and pay your taxes.

    by walk2live on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:49:50 AM PDT

    •  They'll have exchanges (3+ / 0-)
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      mungley, wsexson, pamelabrown

      the law grants the feds the power to implement them.

      Obama is at war with radical anti-American terrorists. The radical GOP is at war with American women. Take that and run with it DNC, you inept fucking pikers.

      by GOPGO2H3LL on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:52:32 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Refusing exchanges is a non-option (5+ / 0-)

      Either Tallahassee sets up an exchange for Florida, or Washington DC sets up an exchange for Florida.

      Either way, Florida will have a health exchange. (And I suspect the tea-party calculation will be "better to do it ourselves than to have the damned fed'ruls come in and do it")

      It's the Medicaid package that governors are really balking about. Which is stupid, because it will cost the state close to nothing for the next decade (and nearly nothing thereafter) and it's a buttload of money that will feed into their economy.

      I think Gov. Dean was the one who mentioned that a poor state like South Carolina could see a 2-4% increase in state-level GDP just from Medicaid expansion alone.

      That kind of increase across our poorest states would put us into "not a recession anymore" territory.

      sin and love and fear are just sounds that people who never sinned nor loved nor feared have for what they never had and cannot have until they forget the words

      by harrije on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:55:15 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Just wait until (5+ / 0-)

    the hospitals go to town on this fuckhead.

    Bloodbath.

    Obama is at war with radical anti-American terrorists. The radical GOP is at war with American women. Take that and run with it DNC, you inept fucking pikers.

    by GOPGO2H3LL on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:50:26 AM PDT

  •  How stupid are the people who voted for this guy! (6+ / 0-)

    This information had to be known about this vile thief before the Tea Party morons elected him. So they'd rather have their tax dollars stolen by someone like him than heaven forbid a poor person gets medical care, especially if there is even the slightest chance that poor person might not be a white Christian.

    I swear, I need to have a barf bag near me every time I learn more about anyone in the GOP. How did this country become so stupid and so anti American and anti just common decency????

  •  Repugs are increasingly electing sociopaths (5+ / 0-)

    This guy is scary.

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:53:38 AM PDT

  •  it might help re-elect Democrats if (3+ / 0-)
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    mungley, dhajra, Native Gator

    the governor's label is always and everywhere:

    75 times Fifth amendment - Rick Scott!

    There's no reason to suffer through the grave injustice of U.S. universal health care when there's a robust sampling of countries that aren't industrialized and will happily allow you to not experience Obamacare.

    by anyname on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:54:31 AM PDT

  •  scott giving misleading info. on health care law (2+ / 0-)
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    mungley, donnamarie

    What else is new?

    http://www.tampabay.com/...

    Macca's Meatless Monday

    by VL Baker on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 08:55:45 AM PDT

  •  The fact that Skeletor could even get elected (2+ / 0-)
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    GOPGO2H3LL, dhajra

    after his criminal activity was public knowledge causes me to seriously doubt the intelligence of the average Floridian.  Not all, just the average.

    Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!

    by bigtimecynic on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 09:00:27 AM PDT

  •  FL Gov. Rick Scott Totally Looks Like Nosferatu (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    dhajra
  •  If your a 70 year old Walmart greeter (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    dhajra, figurine

    and the corporation thinks you have done something wrong you get fired and become homeless.  If your a CEO of a corporation and do something wrong like committing Medicare fraud you then become a politician and get promoted to Governor where you can personally enforce your draconian view on the rest of the population whom is just trying to make a living wage in a horrible ecomony with stagnant wages and a overly expensive healthcare system.  If your poor or disabled or middle class on your way to being poor without millions stashed away your shamed for not being rich.  If you've become wealthy by fraud or outsourcing jobs your patted on the back for you innovative spirit, hard work, and for being a savvy entrepreneur.

    Denying healthcare others, to me at least, really borders on highest level of cruelty and at what point are we going to continue to allow politicians and corporations to do harm to others without holding them responsible for their actions.  And paying a fine for wrong doing by a corporation or Wall Street does not change the behavior that hurts others, but allows the corruption to grow and eventually corrupts the very system that is suppose to protect the people.

    "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolution­ary act. " George Orwell

    by zaka1 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 09:02:41 AM PDT

  •  Can Anyone Counter? (0+ / 0-)

    Rep. W Todd Akin ‏@RepToddAkin
    Obamacare has 22 tax increases, at least 12 of which will hit the middle class. I support #fullrepeal

    I am certain Seniors losing prescription benefits from employer is replaced by something else but.....

    And it is Todd Akin......

  •  What happened to community activism in these (0+ / 0-)

    states? It is amazing to me that these Republican dictator governors can make these extreme statements and not get pushed back from their constituents....

  •  Let Scott Try And Refuse The Medicaid Funds And (0+ / 0-)

    see what happens. Hospitals cannot legally refuse to treat anyone who cannot pay - so the hospitals (and doctors) are going to get stuck treating indigent folks, with NO Medicaid reimbursement. Which means only 2 things can happen to Florida hospitals: 1. They eat the costs of treating the poor - and eventually have to either lay people off to survive OR go out of business, or 2. They bill the state for payment, which means the taxpayers of Florida are on the hook for all those expensive unpaid ER visits. Either way, Scott's refusal to accept the federal Medicaid funding is gonna piss off a whole lot of people - either the medical establishment (doctors, hospital executives, etc.) OR the taxpayers of the state.

    •  Arizona Tried The Same Thing From 1965-1975 (?) (0+ / 0-)

      when the state refused to opt into the Medicaid system. Arizona's hospitals were losing so much money on treating charity cases, that the state finally opted in to Medicaid reimbursement sometime in the 1970's (not sure of the exact year). Hey Rick Scott: those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

  •  Governor Skeletor (3+ / 0-)
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    appledown, rini6, pamelabrown

    needs to look up what "law" means. He and his had their day in court, they had their day in Congress, and they failed - time to own up to it.

    The ACA is the law - passed by Congress, signed by the President and now confirmed by the Supreme Court. That means that it is the law, and his stated intent not to implement it makes him forsworn on his oath of office.

    And I believe that's treason.

    •  I understood the ACA to be able to set up the (0+ / 0-)

      exchanges in any state that that does not do so on their own and Gov. Gollum knows this and this may cost the state more money.
      Oh-I am not from Florida (flushing!! I am so ashamed) of these ass clowns.--especially Governor "I turned down
      $2 billion in Rail money also" because I am inherently STUPID.

      "No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar." Abraham Lincoln

      by appledown on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 09:45:08 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  So, if Scott chooses to stand for a second term, (0+ / 0-)

    what's the over/under on his re-election?  Because it wouldn't surprise me if he were successful--but in a Christie Whitman kind of way.  Whitman won re-election but it was obvious her popularity had diminished considerably and the talk of Whitman as a VP candidate died.  Instead she went to DC as a misfit head of EPA and left about a year and a half later.  Hasn't run for office since, but she is reputed to be involved in the Americans Elect front.

    I went to Americans Elect to look it over.  You've got to be kidding.  So pathetic it doesn't even rate as a disaster.  Nor even a pothole.  Just a tiny little unnoticeable crack in the highway of politics.

    Those who forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it.

    by CarolinNJ on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 09:13:40 AM PDT

  •  Perfect Headline: In a nutshell... (2+ / 0-)
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    Amber6541, appledown

    The headline is PERFECT. The thieves in the GOP cannot figure out a way to defraud us so they want the bill killed.

    But you know, the rest of us do not want it "bumped off."

  •  i still say he's bat boy. (0+ / 0-)

    I can never get over that pic.

    An eye for an eye and the whole world will be blind.

    by rini6 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 09:43:48 AM PDT

  •  The Abominable Governor Phibes.... (0+ / 0-)

    Remind me why Jamie Dimon is worth about 50,000 teachers? Tweet

    by caul on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 09:59:33 AM PDT

  •  Google Translate: GOP to English (2+ / 0-)
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    orlbucfan, Nance

    GOP

    "...Florida is not going to implement Obamacare. We are not going to expand Medicaid and we're not going to implement exchanges..."

    ENGLISH

    "...We are very publicly going to say we will not accept the money and then later on, in a much quieter way, much like with the Stimulus, we will gladly accept anything the Feds wish to give us..."

  •  The real problem (0+ / 0-)

    Sure, Batboy is a malignant headcase.  FL ought to have a better governor.  We should all do what we can to make that happen.

    But why should healthcare financing depend, at all, on the chance of which particular malignant nuts happens to sit in the 50 governor's mansions, and what set of malignant nuts happens to hold a majority in 50 states legislatures?  If healthcare funding is, logically and practically, a national problem, and we pass a national solution, why should states have any role in the matter?

    Yes, yes, malignant headcases can win at the national level.  But the way our federalism works in practice, our side is way too sane to use control of our Blue states as veto points on what their crazies who happen to win federal elections do with their power.  

    We need to get rid of any independently derived state authority.  We call it the Union, it ought to actually be a union.  After we get rid of the states, we can put in whatever regional govts we think are reasonable.  But they would have no independent power separate from the Union, from our one govt.

    Sure, we don't have the supermajorities needed to pass the amendments needed to get rid of the states categorically.  But the Equal Protection and Supremacy clauses go a long way in the direction of already having gotten rid of any idea that states have some greater power reserved for them that the federal govt cannot infringe.  At the very least, when we pass laws, we can avoid giving states any power in implementing them.  Why did we fail to do that minimum with the ACA?  Why did we leave Batboy any say in this?

    We should have destroyed the presidency before Obama took office. Too late now.

    by gtomkins on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 10:21:29 AM PDT

  •  Scott proves that white boys look (0+ / 0-)

    like shit w/shaved heads. Har-har.

    Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.

    by orlbucfan on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 10:37:20 AM PDT

  •  Scorched Earth (0+ / 0-)

    I am getting the  feeling Scott knows he is never going to get re-elected, he's limited s to what he can grift from being Governor...so he can go all in on the ABO train

    Barn's burnt down -- now I can see the moon. Masahide

    by bws on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 11:08:37 AM PDT

  •  Scott getting lots of False & Pants on Fire Rating (0+ / 0-)

    Scott's been a busy boy passing out a lot of lies about ACA.

    False
    Says the health care law rations care, like systems in Canada and Great Britain.
    False
    The Medicaid expansion is "going to cost Florida $1.9 billion a year."  
    Pants on Fire!
    A company with "20 employees" could go "out of business" because of health care law requirements to buy insurance.
    Florida Gov. Rick Scott opposes the federal health care law, and he wants the world to know it.

    So he embarked on a media blitz over the weekend, appearing on Fox News, CNN and CNBC. At each stop, he announced that he had no intention of expanding Medicaid, a health insurance program for the very poor. He also said he wouldn’t allow the state to open health insurance "exchanges," places where consumers will comparison shop for health insurance.

    But in expressing his strong opposition to the Affordable Care Act, Scott also got his facts wrong. He gave a one-sided and misleading account of how much the Medicaid expansion would cost the state, badly misrepresented requirements on small businesses and used a widely debunked talking point about "rationing."

    Link
  •  Florida: You elected him, now stop whining. (0+ / 0-)

    Whoever said "sunshine is the best disinfectant" never visited Florida.

    p.s. Goes double for Allan West.

    GOP = Greedy One Percent

    by Palafox on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 12:16:56 PM PDT

    •  Unfortunately, Florida has a weak bench (0+ / 0-)

      and it has been that way for decades.  Most Blue Dogs actually switched to Repuke, which at least cleaned out the dead wood.  But we are such a transient state, it's hard to have "homegrown" leaders.  And the few we have, aren't all that stellar for the party.  They are more interested in their own career than furthering Democratic ideals.

      It sucks, but at least we don't have to shovel snow in January!

      In an insane society, the sane man would appear insane

      by TampaCPA on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 12:41:01 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  If I hear one more liberal or pundit tell me... (0+ / 0-)

    this decision was a victory for progress I'll throw up on them.

    People have to buy overpriced insurance, but states get to deny it. That's the gist of it.

    No more "single payer." No more "universal coverage." Just say, "Medicare for every American."

    by masswaster on Tue Jul 03, 2012 at 12:29:00 PM PDT

  •  Bat Boy of Weekly World News Fame (0+ / 0-)

    Didn't know he grew up to be a governor!  And of one of the biggest states!

  •  Thanks for this. I'm emailing it to my Gov. (0+ / 0-)

    who is Rick S., sadly.

    "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

    by Gorette on Wed Jul 04, 2012 at 07:50:30 AM PDT

  •  My letter using your diary: (0+ / 0-)
    to Rick Scott

    You, Mr. Governor, are a disgrace to the people of Florida. And to the office you hold.

    Why are you saying no to Medicaid expansion?

        "Florida is not going to implement Obamacare. We are not going to expand Medicaid and we're not going to implement exchanges,'' Scott's spokesman Lane Wright told The Associated Press on Saturday."

    Having been implicated in one of the biggest Medicare fraud cases in history, you should be ashamed of yourself. As CEO of Columbia/HCA when it was fined $1.7 billion, you were found guilty of swindling the government. You invoked the Fifth Amendment 75 times in a 2000 deposition in a later civil case.

    Now you have stopped defrauding the federal government of funds for health care.

    You have switched to defrauding the citizens of Florida by depriving Floridians of federal funds dedicated to helping them get better or any, health care at all.

    So, really you are still doing what you did before. But for less direct profit now.

    I cannot tell you the depth of my contempt for this action of yours. Thousands of people will die without this care. The money would cover 100% of the care for years and then go down just incrementally. What a better state this would be with that health care distributed among the poorest of us here. But you care nothing for them, for the people. Just your party and it's miserable allegiance to the wealthy.

    Again, I say, shame on you and your fellow Republicans.

    Sincerely,

    Hope you don't mind my using your words in this manner!

    "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

    by Gorette on Wed Jul 04, 2012 at 08:24:11 AM PDT

  •  Here is the arrogance, contempt of "spokesperson" (0+ / 0-)

    Lane Wright: " We are not going to implement this, no Obamacare, no Medicaid expansion, no health care exchanges."

    The Republican alternative to single payer wants to preserve various private insurers market position through a "health exchange". Of course, they don't keep prices down, but they may give people in the work force a chance at a plan, something more affordable than they have now. Possibly with the subsidy a chance at coverage they may be excluded from. That is millions of people in Florida get something better, maybe much better than what they have now.

    Why would Scott oppose the republican idea, the "free market in exchanges"?

    Because every state already has a defacto monopoly, a dominant insurer, and a junior insurer. The dominant insurer sets the prices, controls the market. The other companies play little role except follow the leader.

    For Scott, the monopoly position is worth a ton of money, and setting up an exchange has the potential to unravel some of that, hurt the market share of the monopolist.  Even with the rules on who can participate, that might lead to loss in subscribers for the top dog.

    He is having none of it. Screw you Floridians!  Better the market stay rigged and people go without than lose a few and cover many more people with other options even other private insurers!

    This single piece of slime among the many things he has done should get him outed or guillotined politically.

    You are a criminal, you think like a CRIMINAL, AND YOU OUGHT TO BE TAKEN DOWN LIKE A lethal, dangerous CRIMINAL.

    HOW MANY WILL SUFFER AND DIE NEEDLESSLY BECAUSE HE IS BLOCKING ACCESS TO CARE WHICH IS THE LAW OF THE LAND?

    seriously, WHY IS HE STILL BREATHING? HUMAN OR DEMON?  doesn't sound or smell like any human known.

    This signature....is currently under construction..

    by BeeDeeS on Wed Jul 04, 2012 at 09:17:15 AM PDT

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