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In my previous diary I showed the new Obama tax lie.
Obamacare 'HUGE TAX INCREASE' lie
People are still taking the bait.

The claim is its Obamacare IS A TAX, The supreme court says so.
Another variation: It's lots of HUGE NEW TAXES, and here's a list of them.


The counter claim is, well, they're not so bad, and they're mostly on rich people.
as in this graphic:


These arguments inadvertently affirm the premise of the phony one sided accounting of the originqal claims.

These lists count as new taxes - closing loopholes, and reducing tax deductions.
Missing in the HUGE NEW TAX LISTs are the mention of the HUGE NEW TAX CREDITS that totally undermine the numbers they throw around.

This is a trojan horse argument that needs to be cut off at the start.

Is there any merit to the NEW TAX claim?
Well 10% on salon tanning.
Poor Snookie.

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  •  There will be huge tax increases due to (1+ / 0-)
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    The expirAtion of the Bush tax cuts and it appears they plan to blame it on Obamacare.

  •  If You Are A Slacker Or A Freeloader.... (0+ / 0-)

    & plan to stick other people for the bill when you get sick, then you'll pay a penalty/tax.  If you don't pay it.....nothing happens, no jail, no IRS agents coming to cart you away.

    If you own a pharmaceutical company or a tanning salon or a health insurance company you pay a tax/penalty.  

    Only 1% of the country is expected to pay the tax.  Just like Massachusetts when approximately 1% wound up paying the tax.  

    Mitt used to call it a freerider penalty in all of a sudden it's a horrible, awful, no good tax.  Go figure.  

    Surprise, surprise.  

  •  Taxes are good. Taxes are what we use to (1+ / 0-)
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    promote the public good.  
    The bondsmen would have us believe that letting them lend and collect interest on the debt is better than paying for things direct.  It is.  Bonds are better for the coupon clippers.  It's a triple treat.  Not only are property taxes less when capital purchases are bonded, but the interest on the bonds is exempt from the income tax and, if there's a business involved, used to off-set any profits.

    The Congress is supposed to manage the currency.  Instead they handed that obligation off to the private banks.  Why would the people's representatives do that?  Because power without responsibility is sweeter than the alternative.  As long as our public servants can call on the private corps to do their dirty work, their longevity in office is secure.

    Are congress critters concerned about low public approval?  Not really.  They don't expect to be loved; they just want the whipped to do what they're told -- to vote right, if they don't want things to get even worse.

    Willard's forte = "catch 'n' cage"

    People to Wall Street, "let our money go."

    by hannah on Wed Jul 04, 2012 at 05:28:53 PM PDT

    •  Except these are taxes to benefit corporations (0+ / 0-)

      who remain the unscrupulous bastards they've always been.  "Death by spreadsheet" didn't magically disappear.

      Progressive Candidate Obama (now - Nov 6, 2012)
      Bipartisan Obama returns (Nov 7, 2012)

      by The Dead Man on Wed Jul 04, 2012 at 06:30:36 PM PDT

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      •  If the taxes being collected in public coffers (0+ / 0-)

        are being misused, the answer is not to stop the flow, but to remove the abusers. Our stewards of the public purse have been deceptive, taking from the public and giving to private interests who then prepare a feast for them. It is theft by indirection, driven by the ulterior motive to rule instead of serve.

        But, if we have hired slackers, they can be fired.

        Willard's forte = "catch 'n' cage"

        People to Wall Street, "let our money go."

        by hannah on Thu Jul 05, 2012 at 01:28:15 AM PDT

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  •  Insurance companies -one of the 3 Health Demons (0+ / 0-)

    Rapacious Insurance companies are one of the 3 stools of the Health Demon preying on us. The other two are the hospital networks & the Pharma/medical supply companies. Obama has made a small effort at taming the insurance companies (with the 80% MLR + some cost cutting measures)  but real reforms (generic drugs, public option, preventive medicine, obesity reduction, FDA regulation)are  at least 5-6 years away and only if Democrats hold the Senate & somehow manage to get back the House this year.  Otherwise all our efforts will go waste as the  Repubs will roll back Medicaid enhancement + some of the good tax increases like the 3.8% on  income (capital gains etc.) for earners over 200k (25k couples)

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