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Rep. Valerie Hodges, a Louisiana Republican voted for State Funds to go to Religious Schools, now she found out her vote was a big mistake because:

“I actually support funding for teaching the fundamentals of America’s Founding Fathers’ religion, which is Christianity, in public schools or private schools,” the District 64 Representative said Monday.

“Unfortunately it will not be limited to the Founders’ religion,” Hodges said. “We need to insure that it does not open the door to fund radical Islam schools. There are a thousand Muslim schools that have sprung up recently. I do not support using public funds for teaching Islam anywhere here in Louisiana.”
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Originally posted to triumph110 on Thu Jul 05, 2012 at 07:33 PM PDT.

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  •  The law she voted for (11+ / 0-)

    is constitutional.

    The law she wishes she could have voted for is unconstitutional. Even with this Supreme Court, though it would almost certainly not get that far.

    Both versions (the constitutional one and the unconstitutional one) are horrible policy.

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    by harrije on Thu Jul 05, 2012 at 07:39:45 PM PDT

  •  I don't understand (2+ / 0-)
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    how public moneys can be used for private purposes. When the private purpose is the furtherance of any religious activity it violates the separation of church and state.

    Maybe we should lower our sights. Maybe we should aim for separation of church and sports.

    Others have simply gotten old. I prefer to think I've been tempered by time.

    by Just Bob on Thu Jul 05, 2012 at 09:47:48 PM PDT

  •  Rep. Valerie Hodges is a fucking idjit. n/t (4+ / 0-)
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    •  ha ha ha, the joke is on her: (8+ / 0-)

      Hey Rep Hodges:  Didn't you understand that's why the founders didn't want church & state anywhere near each other?   Because once you cross that line, you're going to get everything you asked for, and along with it a metric shit-ton more of everything you don't want.   Neener!  

      "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Thu Jul 05, 2012 at 09:58:47 PM PDT

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      •  She also has no clue about the Founders' religion (0+ / 0-)

        None of them would be born-again evangelical Christians in the manner SHE considers "Christian." Most did not believe in the divinity of Jesus.

        Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07.

        by anastasia p on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 07:55:48 AM PDT

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  •  Dumb as a box of hair. eom (1+ / 0-)
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    I used to be Snow White. And then I drifted. - Mae West

    by CherryTheTart on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 02:26:19 AM PDT

  •  I want Creationism taught in Public an Private (3+ / 0-)
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    School by Law an here's just a few of 'em Genesis Creationism,Hindu Creationism,Asgardian Creationism,Olympian Creationism,Ancient Egypt Creationism,Sumerian Creationism,Babylonian Creationism,Mayan Creationism,Aztecs Creationism,Buddha Creationism,The Creationisms of the African/North American/Indian SubContinent/Asian Continent's many different Religions of those Peoples Ancestors,The Polynesian Creationisms and of course The Cargo Cults Creationism.

  •  I've always thought this is... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...the Achilles' heel of the voucher movement.  I'd donate money to set up radical madrassas anywhere they implement a voucher program.  Maybe some Wiccan schools as well.  

    •  same here (1+ / 0-)
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      i'd open a satanist one and a scientologist one and a pastafarian one.

      Rape apologia among progressives (well, anybody) is so very disturbing.

      by terrypinder on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 06:00:35 AM PDT

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      •  You don't have to go that far. (0+ / 0-)

        Just open up a "liberal" school and get state funding. That will horrify them enough.

        Actually, in my most euphoric dreams I see a time when liberals will have used vouchers to create schools that teach from a liberal perspective.  I also expect that such schools would far surpass the others in terms of quality of education. If this were the case the whole voucher system could be made to backfire on the conservatives who expect the schools to be tidy little indoctrination centers for their ideology.

        This is do-able given that gifted conservatives generally gravitate toward the money whereas gifted liberals tend to gravitate toward public service. This would mean that the gifted liberal teachers would be more willing to work at lower wages than the conservative ones thusly making a system of very high quality voucher supported liberal leaning schools a real possibility.  In my euphoric vision students would flock to the liberal schools in pursuit of a better education.  

        If we start making noises like this is a plan we might get the conservatives to rethink their voucher scheme since they would have to face the spector of it coming back to bite them in the ying-yang.

        The world is a den of thieves and night is falling. -Ingmar Bergman

        by Pirogue on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 07:40:23 AM PDT

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    •  I think that the Unitarians (0+ / 0-)

      should start schools. That would blow their minds. These would quickly become the most in-demand and best schools in the state. They would be teaching kids to ask questions, to think, to ponder alternatives, to explore the world in depth.

      Take the "Can't(or)" out of Congress. Support E. Wayne Powell in Va-07.

      by anastasia p on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 07:57:22 AM PDT

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  •  This is where the fight is. (1+ / 0-)
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    What's happening in Louisiana is what makes this election perhaps the most important in our history.  This kind of lunacy shows that our first priortiy should be a Supreme Court that will put up a clear prohibition against state-funded religious schools. If this doesn't happen the end result will be disastrous.

    We will allow states to fund "schools" that will be little more than fundamentalist indoctrination camps. They will be creating a cadre of workers fanatically commited to theocratic principles. The dynamics of ignorance is such that a self-perpetuating momentum is created. Ignorace feeds more ignorance and builds upon itself. History resounds with this clear lesson. Does anyone think that a person deluded enough to believe that the Loch Ness Monster disproves evolution is going to embrace the subtle notion that others have a right to follow their consciences even if it leads to world views other than their own?

    No institution is  more crucial in this struggle. The president chooses the Supreme Court and it has now become an institution that has put us on the run in the battle for hearts and minds by rendering the Citizens United decision. Their next target is education and if the right is allowed to establish a system of state funded indoctrination facilities the game may be over. Anyone who thinks this is alarmist should  rent the movie "Jesus Camp" to see what's on the agenda of the religious right.  

    Once these religious schools (as well as corporate run, for-profit schools that put return on investment along with marketing and recruitment above actual educational goals) are established they will represent a powerful concentration of lobbying power.  In addition to this pervasive system of indoctrination we will also have established a new and entrenched interest group that will use the money it obtains from the public to perpetuate itself through lobbying.  Right wing politicians will have a new set of supporters who will use the revenue from vouchers to fund their contributions. We see a similar thing happening in the now entrenched privatized prison system.

    This is why I am horrified when I hear talk among progressives suggesting it might be good policy to withhold support from Obama because he is not green enough or not in-your-face feisty enough to suit them. History clearly shows that that ignorance can and does reach a self-perpetuating critical mass and we are dangerously close to falling into such an abyss. Who can say where we will be headed if the ultra-conservatives gain complete and unquestioned ideological control of the court, but it might take generations to reverse the damage. We are in a life or death struggle with the now allied forces of theocracy and plutocracy and their side realizes the overriding importance of the Supreme Court. This is the reason they put up a front of such hermetic integrity when it comes to presidential politics.

    Meanwhile our side indulges itself with notions of ideological purity while in the real world the game may well be already lost. Can anyone guage the ultimate effect of Citizens United? Will the moneyed interests be able to use their bottomless campaign coffers to drown out all oppostion? We just don't know yet, but if they can then that will be the price we will have paid for the ideological purity of those who in 2000 split off enough votes to allow Bush to capture the presidency and give us a court capable of retrograde decisions like Citizens United.

    The world is a den of thieves and night is falling. -Ingmar Bergman

    by Pirogue on Fri Jul 06, 2012 at 07:11:11 AM PDT

  •  She has great career prospect with GOP... (0+ / 0-)

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