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The US Navy is looking to increase the use of underwater high frequency sonar which could be responsible for harming and/or killing thousands of whales and dolphins.  That is from their website BTW.  Fortunately they're required to listen to us complain.

The Navy is required to include comments on their Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) re: the use of high frequency underwater sound for testing in Hawaii, the California and Atlantic Coasts, and the Gulf of Mexico. According to their estimates it will deafen more than 15,900 whales and dolphins and kill 1,800 more over the next 5 years. Whales and dolphins depend on sound to navigate and live. Your signature and comment will have to be included in the EIS and could stop this Naval program, potentially saving the lives of these ocean creatures. The comments must be in by July 10, 2012.
Time is running out to let them know what you think so it's now or never.  Just avoid the orange jellyfish and hop over to the other side to find out how.

You can visit the Navy website and let them know directly what you think.

You can also sign a petition which will be delivered to them.  The body of the petition is:

Stop the killing of 1,800 whales and dolphins and the deafening of 15,900 more by ceasing the operation of the Navy's underwater sound system in the Hawaiian Islands, the California and Atlantic Coasts, and the Gulf of Mexico.

The Navy is required to include comments on their Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) re: the use of high frequency underwater sound for testing in Hawaii, the California and Atlantic Coasts, and the Gulf of Mexico. According to their estimates it will deafen more than 15,900 whales and dolphins and kill 1,800 more over the next 5 years. Whales and dolphins depend on sound to navigate and live. Your signature and comment will have to be included in the EIS and could stop this Naval program, potentially saving the lives of these ocean creatures. The comments must be in by July 10, 2012.

While you're doing that you can read the following:
The Helsinki Group's Declaration of Rights for Cetaceans

Following their 2010 conference on Cetacean Rights, the Helsinki Group put together a Declaration of Rights for Cetaceans (which includes all whales, dolphins, and porpoises). Their ten point declaration goes like this:

Based on the principle of the equal treatment of all persons; Recognizing that scientific research gives us deeper insights into the complexities of cetacean minds, societies and cultures; Noting that the progressive development of international law manifests an entitlement to life by cetaceans; We affirm that all cetaceans as persons have the right to life, liberty and wellbeing. We conclude that:

Every individual cetacean has the right to life.

No cetacean should be held in captivity or servitude; be subject to cruel treatment; or be removed from their natural environment.

All cetaceans have the right to freedom of movement and residence within their natural environment.

No cetacean is the property of any State, corporation, human group or individual.
Cetaceans have the right to the protection of their natural environment.

Cetaceans have the right not to be subject to the disruption of their cultures.

The rights, freedoms and norms set forth in this Declaration should be protected under international and domestic law.

Cetaceans are entitled to an international order in which these rights, freedoms and norms can be fully realized.

No State, corporation, human group or individual should engage in any activity that undermines these rights, freedoms and norms.

Nothing in this Declaration shall prevent a State from enacting stricter provisions for the protection of cetacean rights.

After you're done there, if you still feel like you want to learn more or get involved, check out the following websites:

Champions for Cetaceans

WWF

Sea Shepherd

If you're in they Delaware/Philly/South NJ area and want to get involved with a bunch of really cool and very dedicated volunteers or maybe just hang out with us, then check us out on facebook.

Also, check out the diaries below and give the diarists some love:

Don't make Admiral Kirk Save Us!: Stop the Navy from Killing Cetaceans

Save the Whales by July 10th!

US Navy engaging in mass slaughter of Cetaceans. STOP them. (update)

Stop the US Navy from Killing the Whales

Finally sit back and enjoy the sound of some dolphins and whales while you tell the Navy to cut the crap.

Originally posted to DisNoir36 on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 04:00 AM PDT.

Also republished by PWB Peeps and Your Government at Work.

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  •  Tip Jar (14+ / 0-)

    This is what you're fighting for.

    This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

    by DisNoir36 on Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 10:15:59 PM PDT

  •  very cool chatter (5+ / 0-)

    I saw a PBS special on this communication and the whales and dolphins are talking to each other and not just making noises.  The Navy has had problems with this before- remember the shelling in Puerto Rico?  I would think they would be more responsive in 2012.

  •  Sad about Dolphins/Whales, but Navy first (0+ / 0-)

    When the cold war ended, the Navy had dominance over every other fleet in the world.  That is changing.  Since 2000, the Chinese Navy has added 95 major combat vessels, while the American Navy has lost 46.  While we continue to have a far larger fleet, the trend indicates that the Chinese Navy could, in the event of conflict, do serious damage to American interests(aka sink our ships, kill our sailors & marines), particularly given the USA's global committments force the fleet to be spread very thin.

    It is sad that so many animals are going to be injured and/or killed by the increased use of active sonar.  But, the Navy is an incredibly professional organization whose only mission is to proect American lives and interests.  If they believe they need to use sonar more aggressively and the cost are what is outlined I don't see how any rationale person could take the side of the "fish" over the lives or our sailors.

    •  "We must not allow a sonar gap!" (2+ / 0-)
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      freerad, Cedwyn

      "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

      by Bush Bites on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 04:50:47 AM PDT

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      •  So we shouldn't train our sailors? (0+ / 0-)

        The Navy believes that advances in diesel electric submarines and increases in the range and accuracy of submarine launched weapons now require the use of active sonar, when passive sonar would have been satisfactory in the past.

        If sailors don't train with these tools, they can't develop necessary skills and systems cannot be properly evaluated for flaws.

        In 1998, who would have expected us to be a dozen years into a never ending war on terror?

        So well we all hope and pray the Navy never has to go to war again, if and when they do go into harm's way - how many parents would be receiving flags and the President's thanks for their sacrifice that could have been saved had proper training been undertaken?

        It is terrible that some whales and dolphins will be injured, but it is by far the lesser evil.

        https://nwtteis.com/...

        •  Uh huh (1+ / 0-)
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          Because last I checked we were attacked on 9/11 by a bunch of terrorists with bombs strapped on swimming to our shores.

          Oh last I checked we also are getting out if that never ending war.

          But I guess feeding that military industrial complex is paramount to all other concerns.

          This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

          by DisNoir36 on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 09:37:51 AM PDT

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    •  Having personally (8+ / 0-)

      experienced the ear splitting noise emitted by the Navy's sonar and understanding that it is not just whales and dolphins that are negatively impacted by the noise but the entire ocean for miles around I asked myself why this particular method requires our support.

      When I experienced it I could not leave my head in the water and watched an Atlantic Ray below me throw itself against the coral every time the noise went off. Everything alive was affected by the noise, fish, rays, humans. I couldn't stand it and luckily was able to take my head out of the water. The only thing I wanted to do was get out of the water as quickly as possible and get away from the noise. We are an advanced nation and can find a better way to collect underwater intelligence without killing everything around. I have written letters about this subject to the Navy and continue to fight against this use of high pitched sonar.

      If peace is to prevail we all have to become foes of violence.

      by spacejam on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 04:57:16 AM PDT

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    •  Yeah, like China is going to go to war (2+ / 0-)
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      against their largest customer/debtor.

      In a way, if they want to take over policing the world to make it safe for sending their exports everywheres, I say "why not?"

      •  Historically non expansionist China (2+ / 0-)
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        A nation where a historian has to dig deep to find instances where they overtly attacked another nation.

        Sadly we are surrounded by idiots in this country that will never bother to learn that and will continue to think China is a war threat.

        Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

        by Horace Boothroyd III on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 05:43:29 AM PDT

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    •  Yeah, like decisions are always made with the (4+ / 0-)
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      best of intentions in mind... the military is as capable of making poor decisions as good ones. This is a bad one.

    •  "fish" (1+ / 0-)
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      says all anyone needs to know about you.

      "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

      by kestrel9000 on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 05:28:24 AM PDT

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    •  if that's the case, (1+ / 0-)
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      If they believe they need to use sonar more aggressively and the cost are what is outlined I don't see how any rationale person could take the side of the "fish" over the lives or our sailors.
      your vision is off.

      nobody has the right to decide our "security concerns" trump sea life the world over.

      Die with your boots on. If you're gonna try, well stick around. Gonna cry? Just move along. The truth of all predictions is always in your hands. - Iron Maiden

      by Cedwyn on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 06:01:06 AM PDT

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    •  those "fish" are intelligent (2+ / 0-)
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      there are clearly better ways to detect things below the surface. I hope the Navy finds one that doesn't kill species that quite possibly are sentient.

      Rape apologia among progressives (well, anybody) is so very disturbing.

      by terrypinder on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 09:01:54 AM PDT

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  •  Warfare is hell on nature. n/t (0+ / 0-)

    "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

    by Bush Bites on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 04:46:27 AM PDT

  •  Wouldn't this also interfere with all the (1+ / 0-)
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    Dolphins the navy has working for them?

    Which is a whole other kettle of worms, or can of fish, or whatever the saying is.

  •  LAST DAY!!! (2+ / 0-)

    Maybe you could Jazz up your title! A little anger or something in it might attract more attn ;)

  •  Thank you, Thank you for this diary (2+ / 0-)
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    I did see some diaries yesterday, but I couldn't get past the Helsinki statement.  Helsinki statement is probably the ideal, but I just saw "personhood amendment" and shut down.

    However, you have stated the problem clearly and given us a range of actions, and I'm heading off to do something to help.  Now.  Thanks.

  •  "Stop doing that!" is not a solution (0+ / 0-)

    So you want to save the whales and dolphins. That's a wonderful goal, worthy of effort and praise. Now, how do we accomplish this goal? We want a real success here, not a beautiful failure with the best of motives.

    Is the Navy going to give up sonar altogether? Not a chance in Hell. Without sonar, one piddly little submarine from a third-rate navy could cripple a major battlefleet, costing us thousands of lives and billions in hardware. No, sonar is here to stay in the near future. Okay, so trying to ban sonar is probably a failure, and we want a success for the cetaceans.

    How can sonar be made safer? We didn't give up cars, we engineered them differently. We didn't give up power plants for clean air, we filtered the pollutants. Different frequencies? Shorter pulses? Longer pulses with less energy? I have no idea, but we can be VERY creative when motivated. We want a real success for the cetaceans.

    How could sonar be replaced? Green laser LADAR? Computer-enhanced passive listening? Active sonar is great for targeting, but it's a beacon that gives your position away at the same time. If you came up with an effective replacement, the Navy would buy it and throw a parade in your honor. I know a lot of the submariners would! We want a REAL success for the cetaceans.

    Trying to tell one of the major militaries in the world, backed by an industry with deep pockets, supported by bought-and-paid-for politicians, that they are just going to have to stop using one of the only effective tools they have.........pretty much defines failure.

    "Do it for the whales!" These industries kill OTHER PEOPLE for fun and profit! Do you really think that appeal will work? We need a real success for the cetaceans. Let's find one.

    Less "WAAAAH!", more progress.

    by IndyGlenn on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 06:26:51 AM PDT

    •  Well MR. Stormcloud (1+ / 0-)
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      since you obviously have a better idea about how to more effectively address the situation, I suggest you get cracking.

      Or are you just going to criticize and do nothing?

      This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

      by DisNoir36 on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 06:34:26 AM PDT

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      •  Get the brainiacs involved (0+ / 0-)

        Since I'm not a scientist, I don't have the latest super-science gadget tucked away in my closet. However, there are a number of brainiacs out there who probably have the know-how and labs to accomplish just what we want.

        Get organized and pull together the political and financial support to research and develop cetacean-friendly -DAR (detection and ranging) systems. Anyone interested in things Green will be an ally. Check with the Sea Shepherds, I guess. Grants and funding will be necessary.

        As a side objective, work with the Navy to limit damage in the meantime. I was referred to the NDRC as an example. http://www.nrdc.org/

        Once you have a basic system, you can sell the commercial version as part of a Green Ocean movement. "Save the Whales! Fund the Movement! Buy the Safe Sonar from us!" And coincidentally make enough money to support that political activity and further research. You could be the next George Soros.....

        If it works, and is more ocean-friendly, now you can start to put pressure on the Navy. They will be open to alternatives; remember, this is the same Navy that is researching biofuels! Your main opponent will be the military-industrial corps that are going to lose business.

        Protests can make for headlines and buzz, but the Navy is unimpressed with emotional pleas and feelgood morality. You want to win that game, you need some science, cash, hardware, and political clout. It won't be easy.

        Now, this is not an issue high on my personal priority list. I won't devote my life to it's success. If it's your crusade, I wish you luck. I hope that you'll have enough savvy and creativity as well.

        Less "WAAAAH!", more progress.

        by IndyGlenn on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 07:44:59 AM PDT

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    •  NDRC has a set of solutions they proposed (1+ / 0-)
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      basically amounts to more stringent requirements before testing and the like.

      what do you propose?

      Die with your boots on. If you're gonna try, well stick around. Gonna cry? Just move along. The truth of all predictions is always in your hands. - Iron Maiden

      by Cedwyn on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 07:09:39 AM PDT

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      •  sounds like limitations on testing and exercises (1+ / 0-)
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        A quick Google search turned up info that seems to be aimed at educating the Navy on whales so that the Navy can avoid key areas for testing and training exercises.

        That's a very good step, since these kinds of activities can be located or scheduled so as to have the least impact on whales. The Navy would probably be open to reasonable restrictions on these activities, but would be hostile to any kind of outright ban. This is a good example of effective activity versus useless protest.

        Less "WAAAAH!", more progress.

        by IndyGlenn on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 07:26:23 AM PDT

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    •  Great idea, if this challenge is posed to Navy... (1+ / 0-)
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      Your paragraph:  "How can sonar be made safer? We didn't give up cars, we engineered them differently. .... we can be VERY creative when motivated. We want a real success for the cetaceans."

      That's a great comment and the challenge should be posed to the Navy itself.  

      Yes, it is better to see a problem and solve it than to just see a problem.  On the other hand, a lot of us (speaking for myself) lack the expertise and budget to come up with a solution.  

      If I want to store toxic waste in my front yard, it is not up to my next door neighbor to either come up with a perfect containment system or else hold his peace.  Not sure that's what you are suggesting.  Rather, I found the middle part of your comment to be a brilliant way to challenge the Navy to use our dollars in a more innovative way.

      •  getting the Navy onboard would be an elegant soln (1+ / 0-)
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        I was thinking of solutions generated outside the Navy. I did not consider that the Navy itself might be motivated enough to pursue the research.

        That would be a great solution. Elegant in the engineering sense. Are you thinking of a media/political effort to more-or-less impose interest from the top, or maybe an appeal to sympathetic people in the greater Naval community?

        Less "WAAAAH!", more progress.

        by IndyGlenn on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 07:53:09 AM PDT

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        •  Good questions about long term actions (1+ / 0-)
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          My immediate thought was that before the "community feedback" window ends today, the idea of the Navy coming up with wildlife-safer alternatives to and applications of Sonar should be put on the record in the various "comments" venues given in this email.  

          Your framing of it is very articulate and I'd love to think that was put into the public feedback record.  

          If you don't mind your idea being given a little echo here and there, the rest of us might also.  There are other venues too, such as congressional or senate comment sites, white house, and environmental groups.

          •  steal it and run (1+ / 0-)
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            I love it when one of my ping-pong harebrained ideas bounces out a better one from someone else. I've often felt that if I ever have a claim to fame it will be someone else who saves the world saying "I got the inspiration from a comment by this guy".

            Less "WAAAAH!", more progress.

            by IndyGlenn on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 08:42:59 AM PDT

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  •  This is what I wrote to the navy (2+ / 0-)
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    My father was a tailgunner in the Korean confluct and was shot down, wounded in battle. My brother has the medal he was given and he carried shrapnel in his leg for the rest of his life.

    Perhaps in the last century, the kind of tests that the Navy contemplates might have made a difference. Perhaps when sonar was first being developed, the entire intellectual capacity of the U.S. military and the great thinkers in the Pentagon might have thought, at that time, that there was no other way to carry out these tests.

    As a proud daughter of a Naval veteran, I can think of no other way to honor my father than to ask that useless torture and killing of thousands of whales and dolphins be prevented. Maybe this crude, harmful procedure would have been more appropriate in another era, in another century. But not now. We know better than this. We can do better than this.

    The entire might of the U.S. military, the safety of the entire United States does not depend on these tests. We know that is not the case.

    We can do better. American ingenuity depends on updating military strategies from the dusty battlefields of the last centuries.

    And so we can do better, and use that unique talent to bear on halting the slaughter and torture of innocent marine mammals.

    We deserve better; and so do they.

    Thank you,

    (my name)

    daughter of  (Dad's name) ("his nickname") U.S. Navy veteran, Korean conflict

    •  awesome comment! (0+ / 0-)

      thank you so much for writing them.

      Die with your boots on. If you're gonna try, well stick around. Gonna cry? Just move along. The truth of all predictions is always in your hands. - Iron Maiden

      by Cedwyn on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 04:51:04 PM PDT

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  •  It does not make sense to injure and/or (1+ / 0-)
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    kill our partners who assist us in our defenses.

    U.S. Navy Marine Mammal Program
    http://en.wikipedia.org/...

    Dolphins in the Military
    http://www.dolphins-world.com/...

    Mother Teresa: "If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other."

    by Amber6541 on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 01:46:30 PM PDT

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