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Of late, many have vented, for one reason or another, in one direction or another, their anger.

Now, it's my turn. (No, it's NOT what you think it is!)

Four House Democrats today voted in favor of HR 724 for moving to consider HR 6079: to repeal the Affordable Care Act!

It may come as no surprise to discover that 100% of those voting for the Resolution represent districts in the Progressive Southern United States. 50% of the four are from one State, in adjoining districts.

Follow me just below the squiggledoodlethingey fold, and I'll tell you about it.

This vote was, of course AFTER three Democrats voted in favor of the procedural vote (HR 724), which led to the HR 6079 vote I referenced above!

Voting today in favor of HR 61079 were:

Mike Ross, Democrat from Arkansas' 4th District

Dan Boren, Democrat from Oklahoma's 2nd District

Mike McIntyre, Democrat from North Carolina's 7th District

Larry Kissell, Democrat from North Carolina's 8th District

And, just to round out the crazee, these pieces of legislation were introduced by the Congressmen from Texas' 32nd District, Mr. Pete Sessions, and Virginia's 7th, District. (Clue: He's a Tea Party Terrorist whose last name rhymes with Canter. My most humble and sincerest apology to all things equine.)

Okay. So here's the deal.

These folks seem to either not know that their votes are recorded forever, or they simply do not care, or there is some other, mucho compelling reason to support this travesty.

This ain't my first rodeo. I've heard everything that I believe could possibly be said to attempt to justify such a vote. Yes, it really does matter. It is not only that vote which turns the vote into your favor that matters to the electors, to whom you owe a solemn obligation. Don't go there, or at least not with me. Let's just cut to the chase, shall we?

By your name, there is a capital "D". If you, by some outlandish stretch of the imagination, have forgotten (or never knew), that stands for Democrat. Mr. Boren. Really? BOTH votes?

I want to say that nothing illuminates better than the light of truth. I want to say that we must step up OUR game, and hold those who not only vote against the best interests of their electors, but of a rather significant majority of the American People (fer instance), completely accountable for the votes they make.

The following Dems did NOT vote on this vote today:

CA 7th (Geroge Miller)
HI 2nd (Mazie Hirono)
IL 2nd (Jesse Jackson, Jr.) (I think he is ill.)
IL 4th (Luis Gutierrez)
and
NY 1st (Timothy Bishop)

Do NOT allow these votes to go unchallenged! Likewise, I have said "on-air" that it is my personal opinion that any Governor who chooses, alleges, or dares even consider NOT expanding Medicare or creating Insurance Exchanges in their State should be impeached, immediately for Malfeasance of Office. One of the things that I believe we, as Progressive Democrats should do, is to create as much heat as possible on every single vote against the best interests of our citizens and/or our nation.

I'm not quite sure why, but today just seems like one hell of a good day to begin doing that!

I hope you will agree with me, and let these, these, these turncoats know without doubt that their votes are being closely watched, and they WILL be answerable to their constituencies--and the citizens of this nation for them.

DAMNIT!

I can't do this alone. Will you help? You know what to do. I do hope you will do it. And, thanks for the help. The vote will take place tomorrow on the House Floor.

What I would really hope to impress upon each reader of these words is that, it truly does not matter what the Senate does, or does not do with this bill. This action took place specifically (as will tomorrow's vote) in the People's House of Representatives. THAT needs accountability.

Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 10:34 AM PT: The floor debate on HR 6079 is now live on C-Span.

Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 12:48 PM PT: Final House vote on HR 6079 will take place in a few minutes. You can watch live on C-Span. 8 Dems went against the party this time. Jeeeezus!

Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 1:11 PM PT: By a vote of 244-185, the United States House of Representatives voted to repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The bill, HR 6079 now will be transported to the United States Senate, which has indicated they WILL have a vote on this legislation.

Originally posted to An American Citizen on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 07:16 PM PDT.

Also republished by Southern Action and Daily Kos Phazebook Progressive Social Networking Group.

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  •  Tip Jar (27+ / 0-)

    Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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    by Bud Fields on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 07:16:36 PM PDT

  •  I would suggest a (relatively) simple rubric. (6+ / 0-)

    Calculate the politics of a district's voters to produce a "spread."  If the Democrat running in that district is to the right of the spread, they're toast.  If they're exactly on the spread or to the left, then no matter how right-wing that is compared to the rest of the country, it's logical to support them to keep hold of the seat.

    "I'm going to rub your faces in things you try to avoid." - Muad'Dib

    by Troubadour on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 07:24:00 PM PDT

    •  If you want to investigate that, (1+ / 0-)
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      this graph for the 111th House might help.

      Cook PVI, how Republican or Democratic the district leans, is on the horizontal axis.

      DW-nominate liberal/conservative score is on the vertical axis. Lower is better.

      To hunt around for a particular Congresscritter, you need to know their district PVI, so the wikipedia list helps.

      Also available in Senate.

      •  OK, comparing them using those charts (3+ / 0-)
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        Ross is in a rather Republican district, and he's moderately left-leaning overall, so he might as well stay.

        Boren is lucky to be in his district with the D symbol around his name, so we can keep him.

        McIntyre and Kissell, however, are in very moderate districts. We could probably replace them with more progressive Democrats.

        Republicans are far more socialist than Democrats. Just because they want to redistribute the wealth upwards does not make it any better.

        by MrAnon on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 09:58:51 PM PDT

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        •  Thanks, MrAnon (1+ / 0-)
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          Boren is, I am told, retiring. Now what?

          As to Ross, he would follow in my response to Troubadour. You know I agree with your NC assessment.

          Because a thing is more difficult does not make it less imperative--even in NC. :)

          Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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          by Bud Fields on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 10:47:02 AM PDT

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          •  What we should do then (1+ / 0-)
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            Is (if the primaries haven't happened yet) then we can support better candidates there. However, we should be more careful in the Oklahoma and Arkansas districts, as the last thing we want is for a teabagger to win. This doesn't mean keeping a DINO or even a Blue Dog, but we can't have any expectations for a new Progressive Caucus member.

            Now, what we do after the election is work to make those districts more Blue so that in the next election we can have more reliable Democrats.

            Republicans are far more socialist than Democrats. Just because they want to redistribute the wealth upwards does not make it any better.

            by MrAnon on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 11:22:17 AM PDT

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            •  I agree! (1+ / 0-)
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              But, in the meantime, and especially on those issues that are so clearly important to the people of this nation, and especially within "those" districts, is to hold the elected accountable. This is not a party's clear and exclusive pervue.

              This is the responsibility, obligation, and privilege of the electors! This we must do. Today. Right now.

              On C-Span, there is (on their FB page) a poll asking whether people support or oppose the repeal of ACA. As of this moment, Support is ahead of oppose by less than 100 votes.

              The Poll

              And, someone PLEASE tell me:

              Why is the lead Counsel for the National Federation of INDEPENDENT Business appearing at a press conference at the Heritage Foundation???

              :facepalm:

              You know, one of the lead plaintiffs in the SCOTUS case?

              See, they don't even try to hide their arrogance. THIS. MUST. STOP!

              Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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              by Bud Fields on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 11:32:03 AM PDT

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        •  Other things in that chart. (3+ / 0-)
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          Democrats show a stronger correspondence between ideology and district-leanings. Republicans are pretty much a splatter.

          The most strongly Democratic districts aren't getting the representation they deserve. The level of liberalism, over to the most Democratic side, is clipped.

          Just plain 'D' label makes a whole lot of difference. I'm very strongly in the Better Democrats camp, but the chart visualizes well why More is so important.

    •  What would make more sense to me (1+ / 0-)
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      would be to elect better, and perhaps (gasp!) Progressive Democrats into those seats.

      I am not an inflexible person, nor a rigid politician. What I am is a Progressive Democrat who is not willing to necessarily accept a lesser position, especially without a very strong effort to achieve the change I seek.

      I feel that is my obligation, as a Progressive Democrat. I completely understand what you are saying, Troubadour. I would agree with it much more readily if I saw a reasonable effort to either provide a Progressive Democrat alternative in the Primaries, or an elected that clearly represented the ideologies and values, principles, etc.

      Running, and winning as a Democrat, while being a Republican does NOT serve the constituency of those whose party such person alludes to represent.

      When it is not so terribly critical that this truth play out on the floors of Congress, your position might be reasonable. Not now. (I would say, not ever.) But I would be willing then to at least accept such an ideology as reasonable.

      Jockey's ride the horse, and wear the colors of those who hire them. Not doing so would just not seem reasonable, would it? :)

      Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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      by Bud Fields on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 10:45:16 AM PDT

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      •  Changing the electorate is a lot harder (1+ / 0-)
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        than changing politicians, so if the reason a seat is wingnut is that the voters are wingnut, you're not going to win by just pretending otherwise.  You have to progressively make them progressive.  There's no such thing as a magic incantation that transforms Nutsville into Sanityland.

        "I'm going to rub your faces in things you try to avoid." - Muad'Dib

        by Troubadour on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 01:12:12 PM PDT

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        •  I agree. (0+ / 0-)

          But I will sign onto this theory when we can show, definitively that we have mounted the strongest, most effective possible Progressive Democrat candidacy.

          Until then, blaming the lot of the voter as the reason for their plight just cannot be accepted by me, personally. "They get the stupid they deserve!" has a particularly profane backlash to me.

          It necessarily includes "And we helped!" I find that difficult to stomach.

          Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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          by Bud Fields on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 04:46:20 PM PDT

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  •  wow (4+ / 0-)

    there should be repercussions. Boren's retiring, I don't know about the others. I hope they get primaried (and Nancy P moves their offices to the basement with the leaky pipes and the rats.)

    This Rover crossed over.. Willie Nelson, written by Dorothy Fields

    by Karl Rover on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 07:24:19 PM PDT

    •  You know... (1+ / 0-)
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      I must admit to smiling when I read your comment. "Back in the day", that is precisely what would have happened! While it had negatives associated with such a move, it also had simple, and realistic implictions for the basement dwellers. Even they understood it, and learned from the lessons presented.

      Yes, there SHOULD be repercussions. Today. Right now. In my personal opinion. :)

      Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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      by Bud Fields on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 10:50:47 AM PDT

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  •  Shouldn't that be 'Democratic' Turncoats? (8+ / 0-)

    Just sayin.

    •  Sorry. I had to laugh, Elwood. (0+ / 0-)

      The post took 2 hours to create. Over an hour of that time was dedicated to that very question!

      The answer is, of course, YES! A resounding "Yes!"

      Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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      by Bud Fields on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 10:52:55 AM PDT

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  •  i will call their offices tomorrow and give them (3+ / 0-)
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    my regards.  Others may wish to also. Here are their phone calls.

    Mike Ross - 202 225-3772

    Dan Boren - 202 225-2701

    Mike McIntyre - 202 225-2731

    Larry Kessell - 202 225-3715

    •  Thank you, Marty! (0+ / 0-)

      I hope you, and many, many others (besides me, of course) will do precisely that!

      I also hope you will report back to us here on how those calls go. :)

      Hold them accountable! Today!

      Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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      by Bud Fields on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 10:54:17 AM PDT

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  •  Yeah, I know, the majority would be nice, but (7+ / 0-)

    Quite honestly, it's not a real majority with shitbirds like these 4, let them lose.

    Here in Hampton Roads, VA, we had Glenn Nye (D) for 2009 - 2010.  He sounded okay when he ran, and I worked for him, donated.  And then he got elected and cast votes like these.  Voted against Lily Ledbetter, voted against HCR, etc.  Now, I get it, he voted with us 70% of the time, but the 30% was every important vote.

    We now have Scott Rigell (R).  Of course, he's only voted with Dems about 20% of the time, but there really hasn't been one important vote that he has cast that Nye would have voted differently.  For example, Rigell even voted against the contempt of Eric Holder.

    Let them go, work for more and better progressive Dems, and win every seat we can where we don't have to run a blue dick.

    Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear. ~William E. Gladstone, 1866

    by absdoggy on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 07:27:44 PM PDT

    •  Oh, I was going to comment but (2+ / 0-)
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      absdoggy pretty much said everything I was thinking, and most eloquently at that!

      •  Thanks for weighing in, angel D! :) (1+ / 0-)
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        I appreciate your being here, and offering such a powerful comment!

        Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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        by Bud Fields on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 11:00:17 AM PDT

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    •  Without a majority, the ACA would not have been (1+ / 0-)
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      possible.

      •  We never had a "majority". (2+ / 0-)
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        We had Dems plus the bloody sellouts that gave us a mandate to buy private insurance instead of a public option. The same kind of people that killed the Dorgan amendment in getting cheaper generic drugs in the Senate. Coincidentally funny how 15 Blue Dogs voted with Rs to help quash an amendment that prevented granting power to US military in destroying our Constitution right to a fair trial.

        Wake up. We ARE the minority.

        •  I have no practicable argument for that, Jacksman (0+ / 0-)

          Until we realize that we, as a party, are being played by the party opposite much more violently than those inside our own party, and determine for ourselves that we are taking our values, our policies, our philosophy and our party back, they win.

          This debate on the floor is making me fire relentlessly into my television with my Nerf weapon. If there were a rule which banished a speaker from doing so for thirty days for each verbalization of outright lies, I really DO believe such lunacy would become extinct.

          Hold Them Accountable! :)

          Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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          by Bud Fields on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 11:04:17 AM PDT

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      •  Yes and No - these 4 voted against ACA (2+ / 0-)
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        As they have voted to repeal it - so I reiterate, doesn't matter if they are D or R.

        Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear. ~William E. Gladstone, 1866

        by absdoggy on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 04:24:13 AM PDT

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        •  Do you really think it would not have mattered (0+ / 0-)

          if the Speaker was Boehner instead of Pelosi?

          •  Given the responsiblity (0+ / 0-)

            then-Speaker Pelosi has had dumped upon her, I would say the question answers itself.

            Thanks for being part of the discussion. I hope you will hold these Democrat elected accountable. Today! Tomorrow. In November!

            But also help better, Progressive Democrats replace them!

            Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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            by Bud Fields on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 11:06:20 AM PDT

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    •  Way ta write, Absdoggy!! :) (0+ / 0-)

      Lived a very good part of my world, having an Aunt, Uncle and Cousins who lived just outside the Langley AFB gate in Hampton!

      I just keep thinking what Rev. Sharpton started his ad campaign with:

      "Yes. It was acceptable. Until we stopped accepting it."

      What is represented in my writing here is not exclusive to four turncoats. The wild, mind-numbing, non-drug-induced imaginings of my mind extend to every elector, in EVERY District. Hold them accountable!

      I think the only "party" which should face a quicker demise than the Tea Party Terrorists is that which you describe so accurately:

      Let them go, work for more and better progressive Dems, and win every seat we can where we don't have to run a blue dick.

      Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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      Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51

      by Bud Fields on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 10:59:13 AM PDT

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  •  The repeal votes were from the same people that (5+ / 0-)

    voted against the law when it was originally passed.  No surprise.

    The "not voting" are all good progressives who just probably weren't there today.

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 08:35:54 PM PDT

  •  Don't get mad. Just primary 'em (2+ / 0-)
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    While Democrats and Republicans are far apart on "social" issues, they are barely a dime's width apart on economic issues.

    After all, the Democratic congress extended the Bush tax cuts in 2010.

    Sometimes . . . I feel . . . like a redneck with chopsticks . . . Dreaming of squirrel while I'm sucking down squid . . .

    by Pale Jenova on Tue Jul 10, 2012 at 09:12:45 PM PDT

    •  While your second statement is correct (0+ / 0-)

      it is also a bit out of context, don't ya think?

      And I would absolutely submit that we are very much separated on economic issues.

      So far as Primary activity, I personally couldn't agree with you more, although my reasons may be different than yours.

      I want a clearly identified elected! If it is an elected who slithered into office, they should be known as such. If Democrats, or much less Progressive Democrats cannot, or will not build, and run successful campaigns, they are not qualified to serve their elected in the first place. Why then settle for DINO's face as an acceptable alternative?

      Have we, as a party, really lost the ability to understand ourselves? Have we so consistently forgotten our values, our purpose?

      I say, "No!" It is time to hold ourselves accountable, as well. I have no problem with that, but the first, the ONLY purpose before us today is to hold turncoats to our values, our ideologies, our party and our nation accountable. Today. Right now! It's not too late to start. It may be too late if we do not.

      Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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      by Bud Fields on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 11:14:07 AM PDT

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  •  McIntyre - on the outs. (3+ / 0-)
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    I've posted this before, but I'll say it again. I will not be voting for McIntyre this fall.

    The TeaBaggers will NEVER vote for him, no matter how many times he votes with the R's. After Health Care was passed, the Wingnuts went after him because he didn't TRY hard enough to get it thrown out. They're running ads linking him to Obama's 'Socialist' policies.
    McIntyre has responded by moving to the right even further. He's voted against reproductive rights, voted to hold Eric Holder in contempt, and consistently votes to bring God into government.

    I know (from looking at comments on his Facebook page) that others are saying the same thing as I am, that they will NOT vote for McIntyre. That pretty much seals his fate, as this lean-right district can't hold a Dem without bipartisan support, and he's losing Dems left and right.

    I hope his actions keep the Democratic Party from sending him money. He is truly a turncoat, and I have no doubts that if he holds his seat he will go R. Of course he will wait until after the election to announce this, because that's how much of a coward he has been the last few years.

    •  WOMD, who is BHO? (0+ / 0-)

      Thank you for the passioned, and "in the trenches" report. I hope you will do as I requested in my diary. Hold him accountable. Right now. Today. For THESE votes.

      I also hope you will let us know of the preferred candidate in NC 7th from your perspective. At least so far as I have read in comments thus far, I haven't seen anyone else who actually feels the costs of this turncoat's nefarious actions for his electors.

      If the District IS leaning right, then that only means to me that with sufficient power (as in, speaking truth speaking to...), that same district can also lean left, in November.

      As, daily, the Republican/Tea Party Terrorists make themselves more (if possible) transparent with each passing day, electing a real Democrat, much less a Progressive Democrat to NC 7th seems more realistically possible. I hope so. I believe so.

      Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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      by Bud Fields on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 11:19:43 AM PDT

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      •  He knows our opinion. (0+ / 0-)

        McIntyre does not care. He's sickened most Democrats with his actions. There is now a 'Republicans for McIntyre' group in Wilmington, headed by some prominent conservatives. The conservatives who sensibly ousted Pantano from the Republican race.
        McIntyre ran unopposed in the primary, because each candidate that announced they would primary him was DESTROYED by McIntyre's political machine before they could even get their campaigns off the ground.

  •  Canter is a horse's gait... (2+ / 0-)
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    Cantor is a horse's ass!

    "We don't have government anymore, we have an auction." -Lori Compas

    by DownstateDemocrat on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 03:00:40 AM PDT

    •  You very nearly (0+ / 0-)

      cost me a monitor!! :)

      I'm glad to see the reference wasn't completely lost! He just spoke on the floor, before the floor vote was suspended until later this afternoon.

      27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and, lest you have any doubts, counting.

      Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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      by Bud Fields on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 11:23:13 AM PDT

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  •  There's a Group of "Democrats" Out There (1+ / 0-)
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    who are really republicans but want to be in Congress really badly and knew that they either: 1) couldn't beat the incumbent repug in a primary or 2) figured the best way to win the general election, at the time, was to run as a Dem.

    Most politicians don't have an strong personal political beliefs so political parties are simply sports teams to them and they could easily choose either one.

    "The problem with posting quotes off the Internet is you never know if they're genuine."--Gen. George Washington at the Battle of Gettysburg, February 30, 1908

    by Aspe4 on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 05:42:12 AM PDT

    •  Aspe4 (1+ / 0-)
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      There may well be those within both parties who hold that view. Unfortunately, the overwhelming majority of their electors simply do not.

      Thanks for the comment, and the reminder. Hold them accountable. Today. Right now! :)

      Nurse Kelley says my writing is brilliant and my soul is shiny - who am I to argue?
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      by Bud Fields on Wed Jul 11, 2012 at 11:24:50 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

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