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Boston Globe:

Romney’s own words, along with other documentary evidence, appear to challenge his campaign’s assertion in a recent financial disclosure that Romney had “retired” from Bain in 1999 and “since February 11, 1999, Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way.”

Financial disclosure forms Romney filed in Massachusetts indicate he earned at least $100,000 as a Bain “executive” in 2001 and 2002, separate from investment earnings...

The Romney campaign declined to comment on the record about whether the business trips and board meetings were related to Bain Capital obligations.

The URL for this story suggests the original headline was: Evidence Mounts of Mitt Romney's Continuing Ties to Bain After 1999. Romney's people think that because he got away with misleading about Bain when he ran for governor in 2002, he can get away with it now. After all, you just lawyer up and find loopholes to make your own rules. Doesn't everyone?

In any case, it's about your taxes, Mitt. Release them and show the voters how you get around paying them, just like you and me.

David Corn:

Glenn Kessler, who writes the Washington Post's "Fact Checker" column, dismisses [9] the SEC filings bearing Romney’s name, insisting, "much of the language saying Romney was 'sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president' was boilerplate that did not reveal whether he was actually managing Bain at the time." Again, there is a difference between managing and participating in the firm's operations.

Kessler notes that Romney signed that public disclosure form, under the penalty of perjury. Still, he doesn't seem to believe this is a problem for Romney. He does concede, "The SEC documents, especially the ones Romney signed, do raise some questions. One can certainly argue that because Romney did not fully extricate himself from Bain till after his Olympic sojourn ended, he should bear some responsibility for what happened in that period."

Kessler, though, slams the Obama campaign—three Pinocchios!—for saying that Romney and Bain may have violated the law by filing documents with the SEC that falsely represented Romney's status at Bain. But even Kessler's reading of the available evidence could land Romney in hot water regarding his financial disclosure form. While he contends the available evidence does not support the claim Romney actively managed Bain after February 1999, he does find that the signed SEC documents indicate that Romney, at the least, did not "fully extricate himself from Bain" until 2002.

it's pretty clear Kessler writes an opinion column disguised as a fact checker. Too often, he rules on his subjective definition of intent to convey a narrative, not facts. Meanwhile, Corn has been all over this, getting an apology from the Boston Globe for not crediting him (TPM got one as well) for his earlier work.

Charles Blow:

For most Americans, filings for the Federal Election Commission and the Securities and Exchange Commission are foreign concepts that would have limited resonance. But being misleading is a universal concept: most have done it and most frown upon it. The insinuation by the Obama campaign that Romney was either lying then or is lying now (or is shaving the truth down to a sliver) to make a buck and win an office is a much easier and more dangerous concept for voters to wrap their minds around.

Furthermore, the slipperiness of this explanation underscores Romney’s otherness. If you were a construction worker or a schoolteacher, the year you stopped doing your job wouldn’t be ambiguous. Having no “active role” in a parent “entity” feels like a term of art for a con artist.

Second is the issue of Romney’s tax returns.

A con artist and a corporate consultant aren't the same thing (except when they are.)

Gail Collins:

Romney gave five network television interviews on the subject on Friday. While it was true that a bunch of Securities and Exchange Commission filings submitted into the new millennium described Romney as Bain Capital’s boss, that was a technicality, he told CNN.

Well, actually, he said, “I was the owner of an entity that is filing that information.” Also that there’s a difference between an owner and “a person who’s running an entity.”

It was Romney’s Star Trek moment. They were always talking about entities on Star Trek, and entities were very seldom good news...

The Republicans currently have a symbolic legislative agenda and a presidential candidate who can be in two places at one time, but whom nobody likes.

Other than that, it’s all good. Nobody’s brought up the dog on the car roof for days.

Jamelle Bouie:
With few exceptions, the men who become president are very good at politics; it’s generally not wise to assume otherwise. But it seems that some in Romney’s camp have done just that about their competition — Obama and his campaign — and it has left them floundering in the face of 18-year-old attacks that should have been obvious to anyone paying attention.
Nate Silver's latest forecast:
Obama Forecast Buoyed by Stock Rally | No offense to the people of the Peace Garden State. But when the only survey out is one of North Dakota, as was the case on Friday — plus the national tracking polls, which moved in opposite directions — there just isn’t much polling news to worry about. There was, however, a substantial gain in the stock market, which recovered the ground it had lost this week. The Dow Jones was up more than 200 points as investors reacted to better-than-expected data out of China. The forecast for President Obama’s chances of winning the Electoral College rose, to 67.7 percent, on the attendant gain in our model’s economic index.
Marist:
Recent surveys show the presidential race tight, and this latest poll is no different. Obama edged presumed Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney by 2 percentage points, 48 percent to 46 percent. He led among African Americans 78 percent to 15 percent, among young people 74 percent to 20 percent, among Latinos 67 percent to 28 percent, and among women 55 percent to 40 percent.

Romney, meanwhile, bests the president among older voters, ages 60 and older, by 57 percent to 36 percent, among whites by 55 percent to 39 percent, and among men by 52 percent to 40 percent.

But the Obama and Romney advantages among certain slices of the electorate belie the fact that on issues, like who would best handle the economy or foreign policy, the divide between them is much closer, with the president only slightly ahead, according to the poll.

They also share similar splits on likability: 49 percent of the voters have a favorable view of president, while 46 percent don’t; 46 percent like Romney, but 42 percent don’t.

Independent voters are likely to be pivotal in November, and the poll gives Romney a boost. Overall, they favor him, though not by much.

Miringoff said that most telling was that neither candidate so far draws support of 50 percent or more on any of the “fundamental” questions that determine elections.

“The race was close yesterday, it’s close today and it probably will be close tomorrow,” he said, “and it may even be close on Election Day.

In this poll, tax cuts for everyone, including the wealthy, are favored. OTOH, any poll that finds Romney likable is a bit of an outlier (the party ID of respondents seem reasonable at D 36 R 29 I 34.)

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  •  Kessler is embarrassing himself (22+ / 0-)

    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 04:42:43 AM PDT

  •  I love the Gail Collins article. (6+ / 0-)
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    Remediator, adigal, tb mare, DRo, annieli, Amber6541

    http://www.nytimes.com/...

    She only came to my attention last week but she manages to mix very good-natured humor in with sharp jabs, at least in the few articles I've seen.

  •  The Romney Campaign is in a bit of a bind, (22+ / 0-)

    as some have pointed out with respect to their inability to really spend any of their cash hoard because Romney hasn't been nominated yet.

    But I think they face an even more salient problem which is this: that they are totally dependent on their air power. At some point, you've got to have a candidate who can come up with the sorts of statements that can deal with an issue. Mitt Romney's five interviews yesterday were lethal to his prospects because the candidate did something of a full Ginsburg and it settled nothing. Deflected nothing.

    That's a big big problem.

  •  Glenn Kessler earns Four Dicks (9+ / 0-)

    for his very screwed up fact-checking at the Washington Post. And even under scrutiny he won't retract his previous review.

    I give him Four Dicks!

    "I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -- George Carlin, Satirical Comic,(1937-2008)

    by Wynter on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 04:57:38 AM PDT

  •  OK, so Republicans have been arguing (6+ / 0-)

    for decades that government has nothing to do with the economy and should keep hands off business and now Republican operatives are arguing that President Obama hasn't done a good job managing what they said he wasn't supposed to manage in the first place.
    And the voters are confused.  Duh.  What most don't realize is that's the point.  The electorate is supposed to be confused, disoriented, disenchanted, discouraged and disgusted, so only the impulse-driven fan base will actually go to vote. Republicans can only rule if the citizens check out and fail to participate.

    Our grand-daughter said the other day that her grandpa is not an important person "'cause he doesn't do tricks."  Which is both true (granpa is not tricky) and revealing in a political sense because uncle Willard is obviously full of tricks, much like a magician pulling rabbits out of hats and coins out of people's ears. They're harmless tricks -- unless there happen to be pick-pockets or election stealers in the house.
    What's happening in the down-ticket elections while uncle Willard is entertaining the folks?

    Is Obama aiming to finish Willard off early so we can concentrate on the House and Senate?  That would be my druthers.

    Willard's forte = "catch 'n' cage"

    People to Wall Street, "let our money go."

    by hannah on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 05:00:34 AM PDT

  •  most people aren't paying attention (3+ / 0-)
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    Subterranean, Amber6541, PorridgeGun

    I noticed on my local news last night there was zero mention of Romney and Bain and this was a wash dc station.

  •  I know what you are but what am I? (3+ / 0-)
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    skillet, Mistral Wind, politicalceci

    So Romney's damage control is just to say the same crap he has been saying all along. Um.... Mitt. That's not news. That's repetition.

    If you response to an allegation is just to say, "I'm not a crook." Then most likely you are one. Just ask Richard Nixon. Oh that's right... you can't.

    The situation is this, Mitt. Can I call you Mitt? If you are going to get beyond this point in your failed campaign? You need to give the media something new. Like your previous tax returns. Or maybe just stop talking because your doing more damage to yourself by repeating yourself.

    Or better yet, just keep talking. ;)

    "I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -- George Carlin, Satirical Comic,(1937-2008)

    by Wynter on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 05:02:33 AM PDT

  •  Those headlines seem to be either (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    coffejoe, Bush Bites

    supporting Romney's line or saying both sides do it. The people quoted are pretty much reliable resources for our side, no nothing new there. The majority line that  anyone who is paying attention seems to be receiving is that Obama is a liar and a meanie. I don't see what has been gained here. In fact, I think the Obama is a liar idea has gained some traction, just by sheer repetition.

    You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia".

    by yellowdog on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 05:07:07 AM PDT

    •  superficial read (6+ / 0-)

      this is a 3 week story (starting with the WaPo outsourcing story) talking about Romney's core that'll play out for weeks to come. The headlines reflect Romney's appearance on tv yesterday, but the swing states  are already seeing the ads.

      Focus group, republican operatives, polls etc are pretty unanimous that the ads work.

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 05:40:41 AM PDT

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      •  I'm afraid that the way this particular story (2+ / 0-)
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        coffejoe, DRo

        (not the whole Bain attack tactic) will weaken the impact of the ads because the Romney lies are being reiterated loudly and more frequently. This story is too complicated to make a simple case against Romney but it does given Romney an opportunity and a larger audience to spread his filth.

        We shall see.

        I find it interesting that on Intrade (which I realize is a second order derivative in that it reflects what traders think that people are thinking) Romney has been trending up for the last four days while Obama has been trending down. Make of that what you will.

        You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia".

        by yellowdog on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 05:54:07 AM PDT

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        •  more headlines (5+ / 0-)

          NPR

          Bain, Bain, Go Away: In Defense, Romney Attacks

          AP

          Bain far from fading, Obama keeps after Romney

          that AP story will be seen all over the country. Don't forget, the effect will be to raise doubt, not clinch the election. I don't expect it to move the polls. It doesn't have to, to hurt Romney's chances of winning. He's behind, and this impacts the lite deciders because the story/doubts in one form or another will still be around..

          meanwhile Obama had a good polling week and the intrade numbers are within the margin of error for drift.

          "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

          by Greg Dworkin on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 06:05:42 AM PDT

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          •  THE salient point: (3+ / 0-)
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            annieli, politicalceci, Amber6541
            that AP story will be seen all over the country. Don't forget, the effect will be to raise doubt, not clinch the election.
          •  They are sounding like charges/countercharges. (1+ / 0-)
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            yellowdog

            Instead of actually looking into the issue.

            Most journalists are lazy and dumb.

            "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

            by Bush Bites on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 07:48:14 AM PDT

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          •  Basic benefit for Obama is that (0+ / 0-)

            Obama is setting the subject, and the subject is Romney. Romney can win the election as a bland, generic Republican. Romney can't win the election as Romney.

            Republicans believe you need an ID to vote but you can donate millions to any candidate completely anonymously. (h/t jbou)

            by Calouste on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 10:07:33 AM PDT

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            •  There are no bland, generic Republicans (0+ / 0-)

              Go on. Point to one who isn't a total Winger, other than those who can no longer run for anything. Huntsman, Jeb Bush, Pawlenty, Daniels...Dick Lugar ran hard to his Right in indiana and lost big to Richard Morlock Mourdock.

              No previous Republican Presidential candidate could pass the purity test today. Not Eisenhower, Nixon, Goldwater, Ford, Reagan, Dole, or either Bush. Certainly not anybody in the Abraham Lincoln-Thomas Dewey century.

              Hands off my ObamaCare[TM] http://www.healthcare.gov

              by Mokurai on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 11:20:59 AM PDT

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              •  We known there aren't any bland, generic (0+ / 0-)

                Republicans, but there are quite a lot of people who still do. During the primaries the generic D-R ballot was always a lot more in favor of the R then any of the specific Obama-Romney/Cain/Bachmann/Santorum/etc matchups.

                Romney wants to run as a bland, generic Republican, and Obama is not going to let him to.

                Republicans believe you need an ID to vote but you can donate millions to any candidate completely anonymously. (h/t jbou)

                by Calouste on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 11:25:20 AM PDT

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        •  more headlines (7+ / 0-)

          and the point made in US News:

          Romney Campaign Hits Panic Button Following Bain Attacks

          The GOP presidential campaign has been reeling following increased scrutiny

          "There's a slowly developing trope about Mitt Romney that he has things to hide," says Leonard Steinhorn, communications professor at American University. "This is a danger – if the Romney campaign doesn't figure this one out, this ultimately could become a major media narrative, that in addition to the hammering he's taking on his activities at Bain, could potentially create doubt among voters about who he is and what he stands for."

          Steinhorn says the questions about Romney's finances and details about whether or not he's honestly represented his role at Bain from 1999 to 2001 are not going to go away and could have real significance in the outcome of the tightly fought election.

          I stand my ground on my analysis.

          "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

          by Greg Dworkin on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 06:11:50 AM PDT

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        •  I am incuding this because (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Amber6541, boophus

          it's a nice piece on why it matters/why it's a slowly developing story.

          http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/...

          While I argue that this right now is a 'raise doubt' situation, and important for that reason alone, any further documentation of Romney's role in meetings, etc after 2/99 will sink his campaign.

          And now, many people are looking.

          "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

          by Greg Dworkin on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 06:29:41 AM PDT

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        •  I don't get "too complicated" (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          ratcityreprobate

          Here's the story:

          He said he had no involvement in Bain from 1999 on.

          He filed paperwork with the FEC saying he was sole stockholder, CEO and chairman of the board in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002.

          If that's too complicated, I guess we should concentrate on "He strapped his dog to the roof of his car."

          "When I think of all the harm the Bible has done, I despair of ever writing anything to equal it." ~ Oscar Wilde

          by Scott Wooledge on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 06:45:33 AM PDT

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          •  The defense is more complicated than the charges. (4+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            GDbot, politicalceci, NancyK, Mr MadAsHell

            That's why it's a good issue.

            Obama can simply state, if you the Ceo and sole owner, how can you say you didn't know what was going on?

            While Mitt ties himself into all sorts of pretzels.

            At the very least, it makes mitt look like the shittiest manager on earth.

            (Which, i think, will be the second line of attack after the first plays out.)

            "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

            by Bush Bites on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 07:50:20 AM PDT

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          •  I think we should do both the Bain thing (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            boophus

            AND the strapping his dog to the top of the car.

            The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness

            by CTMET on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 08:00:55 AM PDT

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    •  That's something to worry about. (1+ / 0-)
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      boophus

      But Mitt signed false documents to the SEC, or signed truthful documents and is lying about them now -- you can't just ignore that.

      "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

      by Bush Bites on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 07:46:10 AM PDT

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  •  Joel Berg on 'Up w Chris Hayes' just came out (15+ / 0-)

    with the perfect bon mot (paraphrased, I can't recall exact wording) - 'The very wealthy people who wrecked the ship of the American economy now want to take away the lifeboats from the drowning.'  (Referring to Republican initiated cuts to SNAP.)

  •  Negative ratings (8+ / 0-)

    I think the Marist article failed to note....

    Obama has been under constant attack by the extreme right for over four years now. And include in that the conservative media lie factory we fondly refer to as Fox News has been churning out, nationally, lie after lie about the president all this time. It's no wonder he has a large audience that dislikes him. They've been instructed to dislike him!

    Whereas Mr. Romney hasn't had all that much time to garner his 42% negative rating, but he is racing to beat President Obama in that category by November.

    There is a lot more to dislike about Romney that we haven't heard yet. I need to make more popcorn!

    "I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -- George Carlin, Satirical Comic,(1937-2008)

    by Wynter on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 05:12:36 AM PDT

    •  what is there to like in Rmoney??? (4+ / 0-)
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      tb mare, Bush Bites, Amber6541, boophus

      OK he may be a good husband, super.  

      Anything else?

      He displays no human emotions at all, save annoyance that people don't admire him and all his doings.....

      Who are these 42% who like him,and what are they taking for it???

      •  Eh. (0+ / 0-)

        I've lived down south.

        A lot of people down there worship the rich.

        It's weird.

        "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

        by Bush Bites on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 07:43:51 AM PDT

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        •  Unfortunately alot of them don't take care of (0+ / 0-)

          their dogs either.

          The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness

          by CTMET on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 08:02:59 AM PDT

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        •  Not weird at all (0+ / 0-)

          Poor Southern Whites have lived for 150 years on the promise from the rich that at least they will be able to remain above Blacks, a promise that is worth more to them than actual advancement for their children. The growth of the Black Middle Class has been the greatest threat to that White Supremacist promise. Nixon strategist Lee Atwater said it best.

          You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.
          The self-proclaimed Southern Aristocracy is completely believable on this promise. They are backed up by the remaining racist churches that teach the Curse of Ham, by Young-Earth Creationism and the rest of anti-"Darwinism" denial that they are 100% of Black African ancestry, and by the latest round of voter suppression laws. Among other things.

          See, for example, The New Jim Crow (book by Michelle Alexander about the use of drug and other laws to destroy the Black economy, such as it is, and disenfranchise young Blacks as felons).

          All of this and the rest of the Republican way of thinking is explained in The Theory of the Leisure Class, by Thorstein Veblen. It is impossible to understand US politics, among other things, without reading it. Also it is the most laugh-out-loud hilarious work of non-fiction I have ever encountered.

          Hands off my ObamaCare[TM] http://www.healthcare.gov

          by Mokurai on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 11:58:26 AM PDT

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    •  I agree Obama has an inherent likability edge (0+ / 0-)

      But I think the relative time frames are irrelevant.

      Romney's been in the spotlight for a year and running for POTUS since 2007. They may both be at saturation level. You like them or you don't.

      "When I think of all the harm the Bible has done, I despair of ever writing anything to equal it." ~ Oscar Wilde

      by Scott Wooledge on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 06:52:25 AM PDT

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      •  He was only running for the nomination... (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Amber6541

        up until this past year. That's a big difference. The spotlight hasn't been on him and the media hasn't been vetting him until right now.

        He was simply a regional politician when he was Gov. of Massachusetts. A loud one, but still nothing more. Find any polls that are out there currently covering the question whether people have an opinion on Romney as yet. And much of the country before the recent GOP Primary Circus wouldn't have cared to know him. But they are finding out a lot more lately. And I dare say people are finally having an opinion on the matter today.

        "I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -- George Carlin, Satirical Comic,(1937-2008)

        by Wynter on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 07:28:51 AM PDT

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      •  Before 2010... (0+ / 0-)

        Less than 70% of those polled had a Fav/Unfav opinion about Romney. (source: RealClearPolitics)

        * I know not the greatest source. But their numbers do show a trend that he had a lot of people still undecided on him before 2010.

        But Obama has been front page news 2007.

        "I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -- George Carlin, Satirical Comic,(1937-2008)

        by Wynter on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 07:34:23 AM PDT

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  •  "I'm an owner..." (7+ / 0-)
    Well, actually, he said, “I was the owner of an entity that is filing that information.” Also that there’s a difference between an owner and “a person who’s running an entity.”
    As in, "We own this country but are not running it, and that's a problem for us"
    •  Any fan of a Professional Sports team... (4+ / 0-)
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      TFinSF, Sue B, annieli, CTMET

      ...that is "success-challenged" knows, there is no such thing as a "hands-off owner."

      When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

      by Egalitare on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 05:25:10 AM PDT

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    •  Mixing tenses in the same sentence or (3+ / 0-)
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      DRo, Vicky, Subterranean

      paragraph is evidence that the person has difficulty with the sense of time as a linear entity or process with a strict sequence of events.

      If Willard is one of those people who exist in an ineffable present, that would explain his confusion of what happened when. Taking the intent (what he meant to do) for the act (what he actually did or didn't do) helps in that situation. Intent is timeless--like faith and belief.

      Btw, the 'con" in con man is short for 'confidence'-- i.e. with faith.  The con man fills his mark with faith or belief to take advantage of him. Which tells us, if we didn't notice, that the "faith based administration" was essentially a confidence game.

      Willard's forte = "catch 'n' cage"

      People to Wall Street, "let our money go."

      by hannah on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 05:26:13 AM PDT

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    •  Kessler is a fool (0+ / 0-)

      I want to see Hayes or Maddow get him on their show and grill
      him on how the sole owner of a company can possibly claim or
      evade responsibility for his company.

      As long as he owns the company he owns everything about it. Kessler gets paid for this claptrap?

      Only one area Romney could be believable would be medical.....
      coma or mental incapacity,  that's basically it.

      •  health insurance for mitt and ann (3+ / 0-)

        Was It through Bain during that period? Didn't he have to be employed to qualify? Many interesting questions here.

        Newt Gingrich: Believes marriage is between one man and a series of ever younger women. Wife #1 born ~ 1936, divorced when in her mid-40s...Wife #2 born ~1947, divorced when in her mid-40s...Wife #3 born ~1966.

        by trillian on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 06:39:20 AM PDT

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        •  Romney is personally rich enough (0+ / 0-)

          to pay for his own health insurance, or just pay for his health care directly.

          Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

          by a gilas girl on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 07:30:05 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  ..... but did he pay for it. Thats an important (0+ / 0-)

            question. If he's getting health benefits, he isn't unemployed. I doubt Rmoney let those nickels (to him) slip out of his hands.

            The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness

            by CTMET on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 08:05:52 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

          •  You would think, (0+ / 0-)

            but people like Romney NEVER pay for anything if they can get someone to.

            That they can afford to is besides the point. Remember the millionaire  Republican running for Senate in WV? He knew he wanted run and yet he and his wife couldn't stop themselves from electing the homestead exemption on their second home in Florida just to save a few thousand bucks

            I bet Mitt and Ann stayed on Bains insurance plan.

            Newt Gingrich: Believes marriage is between one man and a series of ever younger women. Wife #1 born ~ 1936, divorced when in her mid-40s...Wife #2 born ~1947, divorced when in her mid-40s...Wife #3 born ~1966.

            by trillian on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 07:02:17 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

    •  Corporations are people! (1+ / 0-)
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      They are made up of the people who own them.

      Now he's claiming they are "entitites"?
      He was the owner of an entity?

      Substitute "corporation" for "entity" in that explanation.

      •  Yes, Corporations are People, my friend, thus (0+ / 0-)

        they are Free under the 14th amendment. Chattels are inherently incapable of Free Speech and the rest.

        Some one or some thing [TM Gene Roddenberry] is trying to bend the fabric of reality in order to have things both ways. I want to make a Star Trek fanfic under the title, "I, Corporation".

        Hands off my ObamaCare[TM] http://www.healthcare.gov

        by Mokurai on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 12:05:30 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Corn notes (15+ / 0-)

    that Romney signed documents pursuant to Bain's Stericycle acquisition.  So Romney has to explain how his actions to literally sign-off on the acquisition of Stericycle is consistent with not having an "active role".  Signing is an action, even for a well-programmed robot.

    ....no longer in SF.... -9.00, -7.38

    by TFinSF on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 05:25:22 AM PDT

    •  He must have been "sleep signing" (11+ / 0-)

      It's a well known condition that shame and embarrassment have driven underground.

      You spent decades of your life signing important papers and documents, and long after you "no longer have authority" to sign them you find to your horror and dismay that you have gotten out of your bed, had your driver take you to your plane, your pilot fly you to your "old" office and you have signed legal documents!!

      It happens to all of us.

      And we need to confront it head on.

      Sleep Signers Anonymous.org can help.

      Give generously.

      When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

      by Egalitare on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 05:37:43 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  For an idealist, the idea is all. (1+ / 0-)
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      The idea or intent is what counts.  There are no significant or signifying acts.  
      That's why Dubya is referred to by the ideologues as an "idealist," and his idea to bring democracy to Iraq was a success as soon as he conceived it.

      "All it takes is the idea" is a line from an Exxon Mobil ad supporting the extraction of natural gas.  It makes life a whole lot simpler, if all that's required is "good ideas."  Whether actions are good or bad need not be considered when the idea is enough.  That's why "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."
      This is not a new development. Plato elevated the idea over matter. The material world doesn't count when one exists in the world of ideas.

      Willard's forte = "catch 'n' cage"

      People to Wall Street, "let our money go."

      by hannah on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 05:40:50 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Owners are responsible whether they're (8+ / 0-)

    Actively managing the company or not.

  •  There must be something devastating in those taxes (8+ / 0-)

    Either that, or it's a principled stance that Romney looks so much like a President that it's immoral to make him do even conventional things to actually become President.  

    Romney '12: Bully for America!

    by Rich in PA on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 05:39:05 AM PDT

  •  You can't be much more brilliant then this ad (12+ / 0-)

    at this time.

    Shouldn't get any pinnochios for it is all true.

    President Obama, January 9, 2012: "Change is hard, but it is possible. I've Seen it. I've Lived it."

    by Drdemocrat on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 05:50:31 AM PDT

  •  Marist poll has Romney getting 15% of (7+ / 0-)

    African-American voters so I would take this poll with a grain of salt.

    Romney will be lucky to get 5% of African-American voters.

    President Obama, January 9, 2012: "Change is hard, but it is possible. I've Seen it. I've Lived it."

    by Drdemocrat on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 05:55:04 AM PDT

    •  Agree. Romney is going to do poorly (1+ / 0-)
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      among many different groups of voters.  We're reaching a point where his veep nominee list might become a list of people who tell him, "Uh, thanks but no thanks."

    •  The last Republican candidate to get > 15% (1+ / 0-)
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      was Nixon in 1960 (when he lost to Kennedy), and that was still in an era where large blocs of African Americans were being actively denied the right to vote.

      The JFK/Johnson years were marked by the  Civil Rights Act and Great Society programs, which cemented the transition begun by FDR of moving African Americans under the Democratic umbrella.

      By 1968, African Americans were all but lost to Republicans, so Nixon adopted his Southern Strategy and won the election with only about 12% of the African American vote.

      That 12% remains about the cap for any Republican candidate.

      ad astra per alia porci

      by harrije on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 06:07:03 AM PDT

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      •  In 1960 Jackie Robinson campaigned for (0+ / 0-)

        Nixon, who he said had a better record on Civil Rights than Kennedy. I don't see it, but I suppose he gave Nixon credit for Eisenhower sending troops to the South to enforce Brown v. Board. Even then, you have to compare it with the New Deal and with Truman desegregating the military. But it is true that the Kennedies were not so hot on Civil Rights to start with. Robinson was Nelson Rockefeller's guest at the 1960 Republican Convention.

        In 1964, Robinson again attended the Republican Convention, but this time he wrote,

           That convention was one of the most unforgettable and frightening experiences of my life. The hatred I saw was unique to me because it was hatred directed against a white man. It embodied a revulsion for all he stood for, including his enlightened attitude towards black people.

            A new breed of Republicans had taken over the GOP. As I watched this steamroller operation in San Francisco, I had a better understanding of how it must have felt to be a Jew in Hitler's Germany.

        You have that backwards about the Southern Strategy. It was operative as soon as LBJ signed the first Civil Rights Act, and drove not just Robinson but almost all Blacks out of the party. Except, of course, country club Blacks, even if they had to start their own country club in order to get in.

        Hands off my ObamaCare[TM] http://www.healthcare.gov

        by Mokurai on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 12:19:26 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Count my parents and one brother in that 5%.... (0+ / 0-)

      unfortunately.

  •  Summer polls don't mean squat (0+ / 0-)
    •  not true (1+ / 0-)
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      not true at all. This one might not, but July is when they start to become accurate, and more so as we get closer to September (so long as you don't expect them to pick the final vote tally).

      There's political science research to back that up. Link supplied on request.

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 06:15:19 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  in any case, requested or not (0+ / 0-)
        What are some factors that might influence early polls? Are there points in the campaign at which those factors tend to balance out, and the polls become more predictive?

        Early poll numbers for the incumbent president or his party’s nominee are driven by the state of the country and approval of the incumbent. And, as I suggested before, they depend on how well-known various candidates are. As the campaign goes on, the polls do become more predictive of the outcome. Here is some forecasting research by Christopher Wlezien and Robert Erikson (pdf) that makes this point. Looking at the 1952-2000 presidential elections, they find that polls begin to be predictive of the outcome—over and above the predictive effects of the economy and presidential approval—in July of the election year, and then their impact increases with time. Obviously, on the eve of the election, the polls will typically predict the winner with great accuracy, although at that point you don’t need a poll to tell you who’s likely to win.

        http://www.cjr.org/...

        "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

        by Greg Dworkin on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 06:17:30 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  They might mean something to you (0+ / 0-)

        and me, but the vast majority of voters aren't concerned or paying attention to the race until after Labor Day. July and August polls - especially August don't mean jack.That's why the race is a tie right now. I one or the other was significantly behind it would show a trend but a tie means zip.

  •  Do we want someone as president who (3+ / 0-)
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    DRo, politicalceci, boophus

    handed his very own multi-million dollar company over to others to run while never checking on what investments they were making for him - including an abortion disposal firm?  He could have been bankrupted by not being informed about how his money was being invested.

    This wasn't a blind trust was it?  I'm not buying it.

  •  Well I guess Citizens United (0+ / 0-)

    is coming back to bite the republicans in the butt.....can't say I am not smiling. Isn't if after all "free speech" to attack your opponent? That is what we fought for isn't it Mr. Romney?  Oh I forget only when your a republican.

    Government isn't the answer to all our problems, but tax cuts, deregulation and greed are the source of many of them.

    by coffejoe on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 06:10:44 AM PDT

  •  Romney mysteries (3+ / 0-)
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    One a mystery, one not so much.

    Romney turns in 23 years of tax forms to McCain. He needs a job. It's ideal for him as McCain is an older potential president. It's ideal for McCain because Romney has the economic experience he lacks. But somehow those 23 years of tax forms disqualify him, and there is never any mention by anyone why. That's the sort of close-up attitude you expect. Then 4 years later, the Romney team feels that the American people are too stupid to understand whatever the problem is.

    It's not at all a mystery to me that many Americans feel Romney is "likeable" though. Nice family, cute smile, and they aren't paying attention. How many guys at the 7/11 know what an SEC filing is?

  •  Romney got something for free (4+ / 0-)

    According to the Boson Globe,

    Financial disclosure forms Romney filed in Massachusetts indicate he earned at least $100,000 as a Bain “executive” in 2001 and 2002, separate from investment earnings...
    This means that if wasn't involved in the management of Bain, he was getting money for doing nothing.  I thought that he was against people getting handouts or things for free.

    Was he stealing from Bain or lying about his involvement?  This particular payment of $100,000 is something for which he has no answer.

    "Trust only those who doubt" Lu Xun

    by LookingUp on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 06:32:03 AM PDT

    •  I am wondering (0+ / 0-)

      if it was just a bs payment to keep him and his family on the payroll for health insurance purposes.

      Newt Gingrich: Believes marriage is between one man and a series of ever younger women. Wife #1 born ~ 1936, divorced when in her mid-40s...Wife #2 born ~1947, divorced when in her mid-40s...Wife #3 born ~1966.

      by trillian on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 06:43:37 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  The claim is that he thought he would go back (0+ / 0-)

        after the Olympics. Only something else came up. Political opportunity.

        There are other CEOs who are not in charge of their companies, but who get paid a salary. It is less usual for a sole owner/Chairman/CEO to put someone else in charge of day-to-day operations, but it is well within the powers of a sole owner/Chairman/CEO.

        But he still had to sign the contracts, putting himself, not just the company, under a certain amount of legal liability. And plenty of political liability, because regardless of the paperwork it was his money going into companies, and even more of his money coming out.

        Hands off my ObamaCare[TM] http://www.healthcare.gov

        by Mokurai on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 12:26:56 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  I doubt he has insurance. People that rich do not (0+ / 0-)

        need it.  When you can pay cash up front for everything,  you can often get a better price even for tramatic care. They will give discounts for cash upfront, it is just most normal people can't do that.

         Ann has MS so perhaps they would need it for ongoing care, but they are billionaires and so even a 1000 dollar office visit weekly would be nothing to them.

    •  Why is their even a discussion? (3+ / 0-)
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      He was the sole owner it should all begin and end right there.

      Wash Post and TB Politifact are just totally incompetent or
      deceitful on this issue.

    •  He was also the sole owner, right? (0+ / 0-)

      So he was paying himself.  Not quite the same thing as getting something for free.

      •  He got plenty of free money out of the companies (0+ / 0-)

        Bain invested in by loading them with debt and charging exorbitant management fees, leaving the Feds to pick up the pieces of shredded pension funds. The only thing he accomplished at the Utah Olympics was to secure a giant Federal bailout, which was then largely distributed to companies run by his buddies.

        Hands off my ObamaCare[TM] http://www.healthcare.gov

        by Mokurai on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 12:29:30 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Rmoney and free stuff... (4+ / 0-)
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  •  A Taxing Problem.... (4+ / 0-)

    When McCain was vetting VP nominations Romney handed over 23 years worth of tax returns.
    One can't help but wonder if the contents of those returns cost him the VP slot.

    •  I'm guessing you're right -- that McCain's (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Mr MadAsHell

      people took a good look at those returns and decided they had enough on their plate as it was.  

      Also, McCain was said to prefer Lieberman, but was told the far Right would howl over that choice.  He was steered toward Sarah Palin instead.  

      There's a terrific piece here:

      http://www.newyorker.com/...

      -- on how McCain came to pick Palin.  

    •  Maybe, maybe not. (0+ / 0-)

      But that's the meme I'm using around the office.

      Most people seem to believe it without question.

      "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

      by Bush Bites on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 07:18:04 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Maybe Mr. Kessler has made a deal (2+ / 0-)
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    politicalceci, ratcityreprobate

    a) Maybe he a very canny writer. Maybe he wants to be press secretary in a Mittens admin. Maybe he knows how to audition. Or maybe not.

    b) Maybe he writes what he writes for the usual reasons. Should we ask to see his tax returns? or better yet, should we demand to see his tax returns?  Or maybe not.

    c) Maybe the answer is neither a) nor b) and he's just just a complete fool?

    •  Kessler's a 1%-er (2+ / 0-)
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      PorridgeGun, fluffy

      His great-grandfather was one of the founders of Royal Dutch Shell. His grandfather was a founder of the largest steel manufacturer in the Netherlands. His father was an executive at Procter&Gamble.

      What you see is class loyalty.

      Republicans believe you need an ID to vote but you can donate millions to any candidate completely anonymously. (h/t jbou)

      by Calouste on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 10:36:13 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  What stands out to me regards one thing: (0+ / 0-)

    how Romney is woefully out of touch.

    Those who support him are also the same.  They are willfully unaware of a multicultural world filled with passion, truth and grave concerns.

    He only wants to be elected so he can not only be the POTUS; he wants to be called King Mitt of America.

    That is how he acts, sounds and perceives himself.

    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin

    by politicalceci on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 07:01:40 AM PDT

  •  WaPo is a hack farm. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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    PorridgeGun

    "The disturbing footage depicts piglets being drop kicked and swung by their hind legs. Sows are seen being kicked and shoved as they resist leaving their piglets."

    by Bush Bites on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 07:10:26 AM PDT

  •  finely honed wordsmithing (1+ / 0-)
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    by Charles Blow:

    shaving the truth down to a sliver
    really like that one

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 07:14:18 AM PDT

  •  No Active Involvement (0+ / 0-)

    doesn't mean he didn't know what was going on.

    I have my own company, albeit not a on the same level as the Mittster, but most people would relate to my story, which I think is a better narrative to push.

    My wife makes all of the investment decisions with our extra cash. I have no active involvement in those decisions. But when it comes time to sign the annual filing with the state, I do look over where our money has been invested. To not so so, would be negligent. Should the state or IRS come after our company, I can't invoke a "no active involvement" defense to shield myself from any liability.

    I think every American understands that when you sign the paperwork, you have no excuse for not knowing what's going on.

  •  4 years of Willard on the Tube is hard to imagine (1+ / 0-)
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    We're really voting for who we're going to look at for the next 4 years. Obama always makes a good impression, even Rethugs admit that.
    Willard makes a terrible impression.

    Pardon me, do you have some Grey Poupon?

  •  He lied to get elected in Mass . . . but now . . . (1+ / 0-)
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    AZ1958

    It seems pretty clear to me that Romney totally disavowed any connection to Bain after Feb 1999.  In doing so, he's admitting that he lied to and misled the State of Massachusettes and the voters of Massachusetts in order to be eligible to run for Governor there.

    If he was willing to lie to get elected then, doesn't it stand to reason that he will lie to get elected now?

    I wish people would hit him harder on this issue.  The guy has an established pattern of misleading people to get elected.  That should automatically disqualify him.

    I'd also like to know a lot more about investments Bain had that might have benefitted from contracts with the Salt Lake Olympics.  Did Romney personally profit from the Olympics?  Did Bain?  If so, the Olympics was little more than another Bain investment that Romney managed.  Which would make sense given his role as owner, CEO, and President.

    And if Romney would engage in self-dealing there, why wouldn't he do the same thing as President?  That's why his offshore investments are so important.  If he's going to push for privatization, the American people need to know if he stands to personally benefit from that privatization.  It is an important and highly relevant question.

    Of course Romney isn't legally required to provide any of that information, but then, he isn't entitled to be elected either.

    His emphasis on "technical" and "legal" compliance misses the whole point of moral and ethical behavior.  That kind of attitude is fine for a shifty, slippery hedge fund guy who is obligated to nothing but the bottom line and to no one but his investors.  But that's not a President's job.  The President has obligations to everyone, and to make policy decisions that uphold the values of our nation, even if there isn't a dime to be made by anyone.  

    •  You can do this yourself, you know. (0+ / 0-)

      Bain did not profit from the Olympics directly. Romney slashed budgets for the Olympics, flew coach, and paid $1 a slice for the pizza he had brought in for board meetings.

      There are two questions. The first, which has a clear answer, is how much Romney got the Federal government to chip in so that he could claim that the Olympics made a profit.

      The second, which is much less clear, is whether the businesses that got Olympic contracts did so because of their connections with Romney. There is no question that many of the companies involved were owned and run by Mormons. But that means nothing by itself. This is Utah. There is also no question that rich people with connections to someone got deals, not just contracts. How about Federal government money to put roads through private property and to provide electricity and utility connections for the housing to be developed on that property? But that, too, is considered business as usual, particularly among those who claim that government should be run as a business.

      The stories that I quote below give no indication that Romney did anything illegal in connection with the Utah Olympics. Whether any of it should have been illegal is a much larger question, but not one for Romney alone.

      Google search: Romney olympics criticism

      10 years after Salt Lake City Olympics, questions about Romney’s contributions

      Despite opposition from Sen. John McCain and other Republican leaders, the Winter Games’ federal budget grew from $200 million to about $600 million on Romney’s watch, according to his book. When various transportation and other works projects are included, the federal government spent an estimated $1.5 billion from the time the Games were awarded to Salt Lake City in 1995 until they took place in 2002.
      Romney’s Olympic earmarks under fire

      Critics say Romney held big mitt out to federal government during games.

      The federal government pumped more than $340 million into Utah in advance of the 2002 Games, funding about 18 percent of the cost, including funds for buses, light-rail construction and a host of security-related projects, according to a report by the Government Accountability Office. If costs for rebuilding Interstate 15 and all of the light-rail expenses are added, the federal sum zooms to $1.3 billion.
      December 10, 2001
      Snow Job
      Thanks to Utah politicians and the 2002 Olympics, a blizzard of federal money—a stunning $1.5 billion—has fallen on the state, enriching some already wealthy businessmen
      • Parking lots are costing you $30 million. Some $12 million of that is paying for two 80-acre fields to be graded and paved for use as two temporary lots, then returned to meadows after the flame is extinguished.
      • Housing for the media and new sewers are each costing you $2 million.
      • Repaved highways, new roads and bridges, enlarged interchanges and an electronic highway-information system are costing you $500 million.
      • Buses, many brought in from other states, to carry spectators to venues are costing you $25 million.
      • Fencing and other security measures at the Veterans Administration Medical Center in northeast Salt Lake City—to protect patients and staff from the Olympic hordes—are costing you $3 million.
      • A light-rail transit system that will ferry Olympic visitors around Salt Lake City is costing you $326 million.
      • Improvements at Salt Lake City-area airports are costing you $16 million.
      • Infectious-disease monitoring, food inspection and mobile medical response teams—aside from those specifically related to bioterrorism threats—are costing you $11 million.
      • Testing programs to try to assure a drug-free Olympics are costing you $3 million.
      • Increased services provided by the U.S. Forest Service, the Postal Service, the Interior Department and the State Department are costing you $16 million.
      • Recycling and composting are costing you $1 million, and public education programs for air, water and waste management are costing you another $1 million.
      • A weather-forecasting system being set up for SLOC is costing you $1 million. The money is going to the University of Utah to enable its Meteorology Department to provide data that will supplement forecasts provided to SLOC by the National Weather Service. According to a SLOC press release, "the Olympics presents a wonderful opportunity [for the department] to perform a much valued service, while at the same time [helping its faculty fulfill its role] as teachers and researchers."
      • New lives planted in Sail Lake City and other communities "impacted," as the funding legislation put it, by the Olympics are costing you $500,000. Said Utah senator Robert Bennett, who arranged for the money, "We do the Olympics because it gets us together doing things like planting trees."
      • Security is costing you about $240 million. Given the events of Sept. 11, few people would quibble with so large an outlay even though it's a 150% increase over the federal tab for safeguarding the Atlanta Gaines, which had twice as many venues and four times as many athletes to protect. What's surprising is that $200 million of this was approved before Sept. 11. Less than 24 hours before the attacks, in fact, Romney was in Washington seeking $12.7 million to cover a portion of salaries and expenses for Utah police who will be involved in Games security.
      • Why the federal government should have to pay for so many goodies—U.S. taxpayers aren't asked to build temporary parking lots for Super Bowl cities, for example, or fund NBA drug testing or create special weather-forecasting units for the World Series—remains a mystery. There is little doubt, though, as to who will benefit: Utah, SLOC and a number of wealthy businessmen who have deftly played the Olympic money game.

      Hands off my ObamaCare[TM] http://www.healthcare.gov

      by Mokurai on Sat Jul 14, 2012 at 01:37:52 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Romney thinks he can lie with impunity, because (0+ / 0-)

    he thinks the 'gentiles' are all stupid.  Not even Dick Nixon lied as horribly as Mitt because he had more respect for others than Romney has.  

  •  Olympics success story? (0+ / 0-)

    Has there been any reporting on if this was really true?  And how that happened?  

  •  CEO, not fifth clerk on the left ===> (0+ / 0-)

    By definition, the salaried president, CEO, and sole owner of a company is responsible for the management of that company. Whether or not we can prove he actually did anything to earn his salary is irrelevant. He owned the company and was its top executive. This isn't a "quirk" of law or a technicality. He, and he alone was entirely responsible for the management decisions made while he was owner and self appointed head of the company. There isn't any wiggle room here. None!
    And CNN paints him as a victim of "swiftboating"? Give me a break!

  •  owning an entity (0+ / 0-)

    wondering about how Romney can explain how  "owning" an entity or corporation is OK, if that corporation is a person too...

    isn't slavery against the law or something?  ;-)

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