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The Freeh report states in no uncertain terms that Joe Paterno was complicit in a culture of silence and the active cover-up of child sexual abuse at the hands of his right-hand man for 30 years, Jerry Sandusky.

As many continue defending him - saying that this isn't the "Joe they know," I would argue that the facts tell a different story.  

Meteor Blades has a great quote in his signature line - "Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe. "

Follow me below the jump for a brief history of Joe's "doing"...

Between 2002 and 2008, 46 Penn State players were charged with a total of 163 crimes; 27 were found guilty.



Football is All that Matters

In late 2002 Anwar Phillips was charged with sexually assaulting a woman and was expelled from school.  However, Joe Paterno allowed him to play in a bowl game in January, 2003.  Mr. Phillips was acquitted of the charge in a subsequent trial.

In The Lion in Autumn, sportswriter Frank Fitzpatrick wrote:

Paterno refused to say whether he even knew Phillips had been accused or suspended. “What happened, happened. I have very little control over it,” he said that spring, according to Fitzpatrick.

Paterno added later: “That’s nobody’s business but mine. It’s not the fans’ business, and it’s not yours.

“The handling of the matter, and what was seen as the use of a loophole to permit Phillips to play, struck many as an indication that Paterno and Penn State were no longer the bastion of ethics they claimed to be,” Fitzpatrick wrote. “When a bowl game was at stake, even they were willing to abandon the moral high ground.”



That's the way we handled it

In 2004, after several incidents involving football players, Mr. Paterno told the Allentown Morning Call newspaper that the players weren't misbehaving any more than usual, but that such news was now more public. "I can go back to a couple guys in the '70s who drove me nuts," he said. "The cops would call me, and I used to put them in bed in my house and run their rear ends off the next day. Nobody knew about it. That's the way we handled it."


Paterno would rather we NOT inform the public...despite any moral or legal obligation to do so


In 2005, following several issues involving football players and code of conduct issues, Vickey Triponey wrote an email to Dr. Spanier:  
"Coach Paterno would rather we NOT inform the public when a football player is found responsible for committing a serious violation of the law and/or our student code," she wrote, "despite any moral or legal obligation to do so."  

Mr. Curley's response, also reviewed by the Journal, was sent three days later and was copied to Mr. Spanier. "I think your summary is accurate," it said.

Mr. Curley, who had played for Mr. Paterno's team, explained what he said was the coach's "frustrations with the system." Mr. Paterno, he wrote, felt that "it should be his call if someone should practice and play in athletics." He said Mr. Paterno felt the school had "overreacted" by deciding to allow reporting of off-campus incidents, and that the NCAA had gone "overboard" with new rules on academic-eligibility requirements

Later that same year, another incident involving a football player "prompted Mr. Spanier to visit Dr. Triponey at her home. Dr. Triponey confirms he told her that Mr. Paterno had given him an ultimatum: Fire her, or Mr. Paterno would stop fund-raising for the school."

A cute girl knocks on the door - what do you do?

2006, on the eve of the Orange Bowl, Paterno had this to say about a Florida State linebacker named A. J. Nicholson who had been accused of sexually assaulting a woman: “There’s so many people gravitating to these kids. He may not have even known what he was getting into, Nicholson. They knock on the door; somebody may knock on the door; a cute girl knocks on the door. What do you do?”

Paterno continued to a group of reporters: “Geez. I hope—thank God they don’t knock on my door, because I’d refer them to a couple of other rooms.”

After Paterno’s comments became public, the National Organization for Women called for his resignation.

I’m not going to say anything about it,” Paterno told ESPN a few days later. “Most people know me. I am what I am.”



Can't expect players to testify against each other, they have to play football  


In 2007, six players were criminally charged with at least one felony count of criminal trespass, some with two other felonies, burglary and criminal solicitation.  
Some of the victims were punched, one was hit in the head with a beer bottle and knocked unconscious, and another was punched and kicked in the face, authorities said. At least five students were struck during the fight and at least two needed treatment at a hospital, authorities said.

In a statement issued by the athletic department, coach Joe Paterno said the football staff was concerned about the accusations "and will determine the appropriate consequence for each player's status on the team when due process has transpired."

Dr. Triponey's department began an inquiry. According to a Penn State employee's record of the proceedings, Mr. Spanier was involved in at least nine meetings with representatives of the judicial-affairs department, and Mr. Paterno was involved in at least six.

In a meeting with Messrs. Paterno and Spanier and others, Dr. Triponey complained that the players were stonewalling her and suggested that Mr. Paterno ought to compel them to be truthful, according to one person familiar with the meeting. Mr. Paterno angrily responded that his players couldn't be expected to cooperate with the school's disciplinary process because, in this case, they would have to testify against each other, making it hard to play football together, these people say.

While charges were eventually dropped against many of the players, two plead guilty to misdemeanors and four were suspended from school.  They did not, however, miss any games.

When this story broke in November, 2011, I heard Brandon Noble on a radio interview saying that football players 'insulate" and that they "try to handle it in house."  This is the culture that needs to change.  The behemoth that college football and other sports have become create this culture of conspiracy, of cover-up, of collusion.  If Sandusky, Spanier, Curley, Schultz, Paterno, McQueary, et al., have taught us one thing, it is that we can never again elevate an individual, a sports program, a university to a level above reproach - a level above the law - never again can we turn a blind eye to questionable behaviors based on someone's status in the university or spot on a football team.  

I will close with a quote from Martin Luther King, Jr. (use of quotation marks mine)

~We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the "good" people.  

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  •  thank's Roxine... the truth is hard to accept by (10+ / 0-)

    some, but it's needed to cleanse the ugly away...

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    by Statusquomustgo on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 09:13:37 AM PDT

  •  asdf (10+ / 0-)

    149182199PS_PATERNO_STATUE

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    by EdMass on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 09:17:06 AM PDT

  •  Thx, Roxine, for your continued work on this..... (6+ / 0-)

    T & R

    •  Thanks Phil S - I am not "attacking" or "going (9+ / 0-)

      after" Joe Paterno.  I am not trying to tear down his memory.  Rather I am trying to point out "how" this could h happen - and what we must do to guard against this happening again.

      To stick our head in the sand and refuse to acknowledge Joe Paterno's fault in this is the same thing he apparently did - turn his head to something that was unpleasant - push it out of his memory - try not to deal with it because it was too uncomfortable to deal with.

      But we must deal with it.  Our failure to do so ensures that the children of the shadows as Bud Fields calls us remain silenced...

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      by Roxine on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 10:02:22 AM PDT

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      •  I disagree. (1+ / 0-)
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        It seems to me that "attacking" Joe Paterno is exactly what you are doing here.  Only you know whether the purpose is to "tear down his memory".

        As I've stated before, I am not a Penn State fan.  My respect for Joe Paterno extends only to the football field, where he has nobly battled my own alma mater, Alabama, for many years.  I won't, however, try to defend the indefensible, which is what a defense of Paterno from attacks like yours would be.

        Handling disciplinary problems "in-house" is exactly how football teams function, just as JoePa said.  A football team must have a certain cohesion...a certain trust in one another.  Short of a criminal investigation, having players testify against other players would be very detrimental to that cohesion.  That's just the way it is.  It is true in high school football and college football throughout this nation, and has been since the beginning.  Yet only at Penn State has it apparently resulted in cover-up of serious criminal acts.  I don't know why that is, but I am very hesitant to blame the "culture" of college football, or football generally.

        By the way, before I'm jumped here, "disciplinary problems" would never, ever refer to criminal behavior.  If JoePa impeded criminal investigations against players, or advised other players to refuse to testify, then that is far outside of handling a disciplinary problem in-team.

        •  Did you read the diary? (7+ / 0-)
          If JoePa impeded criminal investigations against players, or advised other players to refuse to testify, then that is far outside of handling a disciplinary problem in-team.
          Criminal actions are EXACTLY what Paterno was protecting.

          Regardless of your phrasing, you apparently think "team cohesion" outweighs prosecution for criminal acts.

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          by glorificus on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 11:44:18 AM PDT

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        •  Apparently you have a reading comprehension (1+ / 0-)
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          issue - the examples in the diary referred to illegal/criminal behavior.

          Try to read the whole diary before posting

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          by Unit Zero on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 01:49:15 PM PDT

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  •  The crucifixion of Joseph V. Paterno (1+ / 3-)
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    First, to appease the irrational mob, I will state I am sorry for all the victims of abuse everywhere, not only those harmed by Jerry Sandusky. Second, I am not a Penn State alumnus. However, I am a sports fan who believes in truth and in due process of the law.

    For nine months, I have listened to or read so many people massacre the good name and reputation of a man of integrity and character, a man who stood for honor over expediency, and a man who instilled traditional values into thousands of young people with whom he came into contact. Yes, Joseph V. Paterno was a great man, no matter what the talking heads at ESPN or Fox News or a disgraced ex-FBI agent like Louis Freeh might save to the contrary.

    For 61 years at the same school, Paterno came known to all sports and football fans as a man of old-fashioned ideas, who often spoke of classic Greek literature, and who developed a football program that surpassed nearly all other programs in the NCAA in graduation rate while achieving above average success on the gridiron. Suddenly, in November 2011, this man's life work unraveled.

    I find it strange, indeed, that the loudest critics of Paterno have (a) never read the FULL Freeh report, preferring to go by the totally off-the-wall press conference Freeh gave the day his report was published; (b) refused to acknowledge that the state AG Linda Kelly praised Paterno as "the only one to do the right thing"; (c) failed to show any concrete evidence of what Paterno did that was so criminal.

    A. The Freeh report was paid for by the university BOT with the intent of cleansing it of any culpability in the sordid Sandusky-Second Mile scandal.  Weeks after the lengthy report was issued, people are just now publishing analyses of its content. I have read the report, as have numerous others, and I can state that there is no solid piece of evidence linking Paterno to any cover-up. Whether the college AD or the VP are guilty of such a crime is yet to be determined in the court system -- you do believe in the American system of justice, do you not? -- but a single ambiguous e-mail out of thousands perused for the report does not constitute proof of Paterno's complicity in a cover-up. Freeh's report is rife with conjecture and opinion, and his summary is strictly that: his own twisted interpretation of the events. His own "errata sheet" has changed the dates used to convict Paterno. Originally Freeh claimed all parties knew of the 1998 police investigation; he this week changed that 1998 date to 2001. How convenient. Freeh also offers absolutely NO evidence that the inaction of the AD and VP served to shield the football program. Why common sense would tell us that Paterno would be hailed even more as a hero for taking down a monster like Sandusky. No one since has shown how not turning in a criminal can protect a program that had nothing to do with the crimes themselves.

    B. In November, when Sandusky was arrested, Linda Kelly praised Joe Paterno for following established university policy in reporting to his superiors the information Mike McQueary told him. Kelly later publicly questioned why the BOT would fire Paterno, for he did actually do precisely what the law required him to do. Paterno's problem, then, was not that he did anything wrong (he was never charged for any crime) but that he "didn't do more." To date he is the only person to have stated any remorse when he claimed "In hindsight, I wish I had done more." In hindsight. Is there any among us who, if we know now what we didn’t know in the past would not "have done more" about something? Yet, here Paterno's honorable reputation comes back to bite him, for people expected him to do what they would not expect "regular Joes” to do.  Now what would that be? Hire a PI to investigate Sandusky? Track the villain himself on his own? Absurd. Paterno passed the information he heard to superiors and then trusted that they would do their jobs. For this, he has been defamed as a man and vilified as a coach. The NCAA has even stripped him and his former players of victories achieved despite none of those players having any involvement whatsoever in the Sandusky mess. But revenge on Paterno was the mob cry, and revenge it got. Not justice. Not due process. Revenge.

    C. So what exactly did Paterno do wrong to cause this total defamation of his name? He followed the law. He reported what he had heard. He trusted his bosses. Oh, you say he tried to conceal the Sandusky crimes to protect his program. He cared more for football than for children. Sure, and President Obama was born in Kenya and hates America, too. Right? Why, none of those prior statements have any facts to support them. But it's really easy to say them. If Paterno wanted to conceal information, why report it at all? Why not just tell McQueary to keep his mouth shut? But then, this wouldn't fit the media's craving for the story that will boost ratings, for the blood of a once-revered football coach who will be exposed as a fraud. Sounds like part of the script to the 007 film Tomorrow Never Dies.  If the media says it, it must be true.

    I would have thought that readers on this site would demand more facts before believing vile reports about someone. Readers here have seen what Fox News and GOP hacks like Hannity and Limbaugh can do to the truth. But I was wrong. It is much more fun to believe that an 85-year-old man, a devout Catholic (oh my, there's a strike against him, huh?), devoted husband and father with 17 grandchildren, a huge donor to Special Olympics and other charities that helped children, and a coach whose program never committed a major NCAA rule violation while maintaining one the highest academic ratings among the 120 Div. 1 colleges was a fraud and a villain.

    My goodness. The Paterno name has been removed from everything, from awards, from buildings, from walls and plaques, from the record books, from sandwiches, and maybe soon from ice cream. Yet he has never been charged with any crime, never been given the due process Sandusky received, never been proven to cover anything up. The Triponey woman mentioned in the diary was fired not because she angered Paterno but because she angered the regular students of Penn State. She did the same at UCONN, as well, where she was friends with -- are you ready for a connection? -- NCAA president Mark Emmert.

    I am no apologist for Joseph Paterno. He needs no apologies. But I am a veteran of the US Army who believes very much in our ideals of justice and due process.  A lifetime of good work should not be so easily thrown aside because a ratings-hungry media claim it to be so.

    •  Paterno knew about the accusations and did (2+ / 0-)
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      as close to nothing as is possible - I'd say humanly possible, but I'd be lying.

      Paterno deserves to have his "legacy" and his so-called "greatness" removed.

      His only thought was for his own "Legend" and he ignored anything that did not help him.

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      by Unit Zero on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 01:56:35 PM PDT

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      •  how could you consider reporting what Paterno (2+ / 0-)
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        heard to his superiors as "doing as close to nothing as possible"? I understand that the Sandusky crimes are among the most heinous in our society. Any harm to another person is  horrible, and harm to children is especially despicable. So, I do see why you are seeking severe punishment to someone you believe aided a monster like Sandusky.

        But my point is that there is absolutely NO PROOF that Paterno did what you think he did. And to then attach imaginary reasons for his unproven acts is, quite frankly, nearly as despicable as the crimes themselves. For, your anger is not a cry for justice or due process, but rather a cry for revenge against a person who has not been charged much less convicted of any crime whatsoever.

        You can't honestly presume to know with certainty what someone you have never met was thinking in 2001. You are simply lashing out because the media blared 24-hours a day that Paterno was a vile human being. No matter they offered no proof or that the state AG praised him for doing his duty.

        It is too easy for you to sit there and talk of Paterno's "legacy" without so much as providing evidence that he committed a crime. Not even the conjecture-filled Freeh report shows any such evidence.

        Will you please share with us what proof you have of Paterno's crime? Or do you feel that at age 75, he should have violated policy and injected himself into a criminal investigation all by himself?

    •  Massacre? (3+ / 0-)

      As someone whose ancestors knew all too well what a REAL massacre is, and as an abuse survivor, I think you need to jettison the repulsively offensive and inappropriate hyperbole.  When you can talk about this in a way that reflects reality, fine; until then, take your apologias for a failure of humanity elsewhere.  And THAT is the legacy of Joe Paterno:  a cowardly failure of humanity.  No excuses for such behavior.

      H fucking R'd.  Jesus, but this is swill.

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      by Aji on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 03:23:36 PM PDT

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    •  Urgency... (0+ / 0-)

      From ABC News, December 16, 2011

      "He (McQueary) had seen a person, an older person, fondling a young boy," Paterno testified. "I don't know what you would call it, but it was of a sexual nature. I didn't push Mike to describe it because he was already upset, but it was something inappropriate to a youngster."

      What would you have done, Jim, if this information came to you?  Sandusky claimed in an interview with the New York Times that Paterno never spoke to him.  Not once.  If a former colleague of yours had been reported as molesting a child, wouldn't you at least have confronted him?  This wasn't a stranger, but a man who had been given emeritus status and given an office just down the hall from Coach Paterno.  

      From the New American:

      Joe Paterno), the late storied football coach at Penn State, lied when he told a grand jury that he did not know about a report that his defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky molested a boy in 1998, according to the report published by investigators who studied all the evidence at the request of the university.

      Not conjecture or opinion, no matter what you might believe about the Freeh report, Joe Paterno committed perjury by saying he didn't know that the boy had been molested; his comment cited above proves he did know.   If Coach Paterno had survived, he would be facing charges along with his colleagues.  

      The school hasn't seen the last of this.  With other ongoing investigations, including one from the U.S. Attorney's Office, I'm convinced that much more information is going to come to light that will do little to help the flagging reputation of the school.  

      As far as faith goes?  The Bible says that there is no one who is righteous...not one.  I'm no better than Joe Paterno or anyone else for that matter.  At the end of it all, we all will stand before the same judge, aye? But my sinful frailty doesn't absolve anyone of the responsibility of allowing someone as sick and evil to prey unbridled on innocent kids.  

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      by Andrea D on Sun Jul 29, 2012 at 09:33:03 AM PDT

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      •  you're confusing 1998 and 2001 incidents (2+ / 0-)
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        Your first quote refers to the 2001 incident McQueary witnessed.

        The second quote obviously is about the 1998 incident that was investigated by police and various state agencies (note: not covered up by anyone at Penn State) involving Sandusky showering with and hugging a boy (later named victim 6). It was the boy's mother who called in the authorities, and they failed miserably. At the time, the police concluded "nothing criminal" occurred.

        It is likely that Paterno perjured himself about the 1998 incident, based pretty much on the the one email in which Curley mentioned "Coach is anxious to know where [the investigation] stands." But even so, this is secondhand from Curley. For some people (including me) that's enough to "convict" Paterno of perjury.

        On the 2001 incident, Paterno did just barely enough to cover his ass, and we rightfully expect more from this  supposed paragon of integrity than the bare minimum. But I agree with others that the Freeh report is rife with speculation about the motives of Spanier, Schultz, Curley and Paterno. Freeh published emails that only answer the "what" and "when," not the "why."

        It could have been a blatant conspiracy to protect football and the money it brought, but it could have also been that they really didn't believe, or want to believe, that Sandusky was such a monster. They were already told by the experts that one accusation was a false alarm. People have a tendency not to accept such uncomfortable ideas. I'm inclined to think it was cowardice, laziness, ignorance, and wishful thinking that ruled their inaction - not a direct and conscious trade-off between football and child rape, as so many are saying. The end result is the same, I suppose, but the amount of unrealistic villainy is perhaps a little less satisfying to so many outraged observers.

        But outrage won't help fight that uncomfortableness, that urge to believe what we want to believe, in regards to stopping child abuse in the future. You know what will? Education.

        I work at PSU. Last month I completed the mandated reporter training program along with all the staff in my department.  In the fall, all 18,000+ employees at every campus will be required to take the training annually. This, IMO, does more to raise awareness and honor victims than any of the NCAA punishments.

        •  Thank you for your thoughtful reply. (1+ / 0-)
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          And I agree with you - Education is exactly what is needed - especially to combat some of the sentiments you wrote here:

          but it could have also been that they really didn't believe, or want to believe, that Sandusky was such a monster. They were already told by the experts that one accusation was a false alarm. People have a tendency not to accept such uncomfortable ideas. I'm inclined to think it was cowardice, laziness, ignorance, and wishful thinking that ruled their inaction - not a direct and conscious trade-off between football and child rape, as so many are saying.
          I am very pleased with the way in which Penn State has handled themselves since this scandal broke.  I know they feel under siege by the media and that everyone is painting them with a broad brush - but I assure you most of us can distinguish those who are culpable from those who were also betrayed.

          I believe what many on campus are going through is very similar to what survivors go through - betrayed by those who were supposed to protect you, you feel lost - hurt - angry...but the anger is being misdirected, to the media and the "public" who obviously has it "in" for Penn State and are just "hating on Penn State football."

          However, nothing could be farther from the truth.  I would bet the majority of people outside of State College /Happy Valley don't want to talk about football at all.

          I wrote this diary to examine the culture that existed during the time frame the Freeh report said the cover-up occurred.  I wanted to find out for myself how "other" issues were handled involving Paterno and Spanier.

          And while you are correct, in previous comments and in this one, that Paterno did the bare minimum legally regarding the 2001 incident, I would argue that if the DA had this new evidence - that Paterno KNEW about 1998 - he would be indicted for perjury too - because he lied to the grand jury when he said he did not "know anything else that Jerry would be involved in of that  nature."

          Q: Other than the incident that Mike McQueary reported to you, do you know in any way, through rumor, direct knowledge or any other fashion, of any other inappropriate sexual conduct by Jerry Sandusky with young boys?

          Mr. Paterno: I do not know of anything else that Jerry would be involved in of that nature, no. I do not know of it.

          You did mention — I think you said something about a rumor. It may have been discussed in my presence, something else about somebody.

          I don’t know.

          I don’t remember, and I could not honestly say I heard a rumor.

          Please keep speaking out about the good things Penn State is doing.  I commend you and everyone there for standing strong in the face of great adversity and for keeping the victims at the forefront of all of this.  You are - Penn State :)  (even if you're not an alum - they have a lot to be proud of having you on staff)

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          by Roxine on Mon Jul 30, 2012 at 02:39:09 PM PDT

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          •  right (1+ / 0-)
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            I do believe Paterno committed perjury about his knowledge of the 1998 incident. That one Curley email clearly contradicts what Paterno said under oath. (I wonder sometimes if he purposely didn't email anyone about Sandusky. It seems like all communication was by phone or in person. But then again, he was pretty old, and maybe he just didn't like new-fangled email as a means of communication.) It's a shame the grand jury didn't have access to those "found" emails and documents from Curley and Schultz that Freeh did.

            I love Penn State as an institution of research and higher learning, but, no, I am not an alumna. I don't give a flying crap about football. I'm not even originally from Pennsylvania, so JoePa was no mythological figure to me. I absolutely hated how the statue had become a shrine - I found it pretty creepy, actually.

            I also think that most of the PSU BoT/administration official decisions and statements since the scandal broke in November have been right - from the firings through hiring Freeh, to the statue's speedy removal.

            Lastly, I made a boo-boo. The number I quoted above of 18,000 is only the faculty across all campuses of PSU. The total employees is actually 45,000 - all of whom will take the mandated reporter training annually.

        •  Excellent comment... (0+ / 0-)
  •  Paterno would not have cared ... (3+ / 0-)
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    if the players were serial killers.  ALL he cared about was winning, and the adulation and power that came from it.

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    by Neuroptimalian on Sat Jul 28, 2012 at 01:21:46 PM PDT

  •  To all those who want to disagree over any comment (0+ / 0-)

    that damns Paterno or college football, be prepared for an emotional response.  Those that want this entire scandal to be all about Paterno and football, have won.  It is no use to point out facts that do not fit this narrative.

    Don't point out that Paterno reported what McQueary stated less than 24 hrs later, on a Sunday.  You will be told he "Didn't want to ruin anyones weekend".

    Don't point out McQueary stated Paterno never told him to keep quiet.  You will be told he orchestrated the cover up.

    Don't point out that the Freeh report stated there is zero evidence of Paterno involving himself in the '98 investigation that "cleared" Sandusky of any wrong doing.  You will be told Paterno controlled everything on campus.

    Don't point out that the Freeh report states multiple times, "that while the evidence doesn't quite show this, we have to believe this is what occurred".  I guess the statement around here, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", only applies to important issues, like claiming someone is "The Nephew".

    I agree Paterno screwed up.  But I have not seen any evidence that he knew Sandusky raped a child.  It certainly isn't in this diary.  I get a lot of "of course he knew", but no proof.  

    No one has yet shown an e-mail, a stated conversation, or even a note saying, we've got to keep this quiet to protect the program or Paterno.  We only get a lot of opinion and stuff like this diary that says, "hey, look at what he did over here, so of course he had to have done what I'm opining on.

    The other day I questioned where the facts were for a similar opinion on Paterno's/PSU's involvement and I got, "Trust me, I know".  When I said that doesn't quite have the weight you may wish it had, I was told they were a survivor of sexual child abuse, and they knew.  I pointed out I'm not going to accept Spanier's version without facts either and he was also a survivor of child abuse.  No one knows my or others history (unless they feel the need to share), and shouldn't feel their personal experience makes them better at understanding evidence than anybody else.

    This has become a very dangerous case.  So many want to believe a certain narrative (and they may be correct).  But they are so invested in that narrative, they lash out at any of those who question it, and intimate with, "you don't care about the children", or "you value a game or coach more than a child".  It needs to stop.

    Opinions are fine, but everyone is entitled to those.  Facts are what will ultimately decide Paterno's role. We are all entitled to our own opinions, just not our own facts.

  •  And I continually feel the need to point out to (0+ / 0-)

    all who are following this scandal; the more people keep the focus on Paterno/football, the more everyone will believe the solutions to preventing this from happening again involve PSU football.  If that's the case, then the AG and Pa. officials need to simply turn this all over to the NCAA and go home.

    But it is so much more.

    Until Pa. Child Welfare officials who allowed Sandusky to start a children's foundation and adopt and have foster children (what--not one pre Sandusky audit or home visit or exit interview of one child raised 1 red flag in 30+ys???); until all police and children welfare officials (icluding the psychiatrist who said Sandusky was ok) are investigated and it is determined how they missed stopping Sandusky and why theu didn't notify 2nd Mill officials; until all 2nd Mill officials, who suppossedly are trained to see signs of child abuse and pedophilia; and until the AG, who allowed Sandusky 3 yrs of unsupervised access to children, while being investigated as a serial pedophile, while accepting money from 2nd Mile officials; until all of these are investigated, and corrective measures put in place, no child in Pa. is any safer today than last week.

    Those not following this case closely, are already moving on.  Numerous people have written here and elsewhere that it's time to move on and start healing.  This is such a dangerous position to take.  There is so much more to how this happened.

    All the bowl bans, vacated wins and statues removed haven't helped one child.

    After almost 4 yrs of investigating this scandal, thus far those have been the only corrective measures, and sadly those came from the NCAA.  Not much of a start to correcting the systemic issues plaguing Pa.'s children welfare system.

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