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The disgraceful incident happened in November 2011. Now, in July 2012 the University has announced that this employee is no longer on the payroll.

Whether he resigned, or was terminated, no one is saying. No reason I can think of that they should be so coy. The college may have policies regarding confidentiality, but gross abuse of students one is employed to protect surely falls outwith those guidlines.

From the Sacramento Bee:

Lt. John Pike, the UC Davis police officer who became a focal point of last November's pepper spraying incident during a campus protest, is no longer employed by the university, a spokesman confirmed late Tuesday.
More from the same article linked above:
"Consistent with privacy guidelines established in state law and university policy, I can confirm that John Pike's employment with the university ended on July 31, 2012," Shiller said. "I'm unable to comment further."
As I said above. This employee has not earned the right to privacy, given that he appears to have abused students he should have been protecting, and my own view is that the University has a higher duty here. The duty to explain to those who suffered just what action they have taken to ensure this doesn't happen again.

Finally there is this:

The university, Pike and other officers have since been sued by students who say they were victims of the pepper spraying. The Yolo County District Attorney's office is still reviewing the matter to determine whether criminal charges should be filed.
It is to be hoped that nothing the University did in their investigation poisoned the chances of a prosecution. Presumably they could be subpeonaed in any criminal case.

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Originally posted to Every Part of You Belongs to You on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 08:49 PM PDT.

Also republished by Occupy Wall Street.

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  •  took long enough n/t (10+ / 0-)

    "The only person sure of himself is the man who wishes to leave things as they are, and he dreams of an impossibility" -George M. Wrong.

    by statsone on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 08:51:39 PM PDT

  •  Good. (4+ / 0-)

    Really satisfying.

    I used to be Snow White. And then I drifted. - Mae West

    by CherryTheTart on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 09:00:47 PM PDT

  •  I would not be surprised to find he took early (5+ / 0-)

    retirement. Some of the contracts are really ridiculous. And before you think I'm a f'n troll, I am ALL for unions. But some of the law enforcement stuff is beyond the f'n pale here in CA.

    if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

    by mrsgoo on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 09:02:27 PM PDT

    •  lol .. Why would I think you a troll? (4+ / 0-)

      If he took retirement there would be no controversy in saying so, unless they didn't want criticising for being weak.

      I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
      but I fear we will remain Democrats.

      by twigg on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 09:06:32 PM PDT

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      •  I think he should have been flat out fired. And (5+ / 0-)

        lose the majority of his benefits. What he did was sickening. And if it comes out that he has retired with 100% of his salary, (or better) I will be even more pissed off. I'm all for law enforcement have a good retirement. But google up CHP and disability retirement and it will just piss you off. And there is more like that at the local level. That isn't right.

        if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

        by mrsgoo on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 09:16:31 PM PDT

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      •  Actually (0+ / 0-)

        One of the most common things public safety agencies do to shut someone up, especially someone who can destroy them legally -- either (ironically) through their own misconduct or knowing the dirt of co-workers -- is force them into early retirement.  That's only been done several million times.

        Early retirement doesn't make the agency look weak to those in the know.  On the contrary, it's a display of force, because they often use very serious threats to get the employee to sign the dotted line.  

        No Good Cop Goes Unpunished

  •  Although John Pike is a waste of time, (7+ / 0-)

    space and oxygen, I shall always remember his contributions to great art.

    I hope the lawsuits take him down.

    This is, of course, the difference between republicans and human beings. - Captain Frogbert

    by glorificus on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 09:37:49 PM PDT

  •  Good, and take Katehi with him... EOM (4+ / 0-)
  •  *cough* (8+ / 0-)
    As I said above. This employee has not earned the right to privacy, given that he appears to have abused students he should have been protecting, and my own view is that the University has a higher duty here.
    Err ... y'know, the thing about rights, part of what makes them rights, is that you don't earn 'em.  You get 'em for existing.  
    •  We are not talking about (1+ / 0-)
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      that kind of right.

      What about the "rights" of the students?

      I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
      but I fear we will remain Democrats.

      by twigg on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 09:55:00 PM PDT

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      •  You don't earn the right to privacy (1+ / 0-)
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        I disagree with lumping the reasons for him leaving as being protected as his right to privacy, but he has a right to privacy as we all do.  He doesn't need to earn that right any more than you or I do.

        There revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

        by AoT on Wed Aug 01, 2012 at 10:16:55 AM PDT

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      •  They have the right... (0+ / 0-)

        ...to sue the living hell out of him and his school.  They have the right to attempt to get necessary, relevant records via subpoena as part of a trial.  Since this man hasn't been convicted of anything in a court of law, he has lost none of his rights.

        The thing about the rule of law and the presumption of innocence is that, when it works the way that it's supposed to, it protects both the accuser and the accused, the innocent and the guilty-as-sin-but-hasn't-been-prosecuted-yet.

        •  You're right (0+ / 0-)

          about this, but it's actually different in public safety.

          We're guilty until proven innocent; this is why the "paid administrative leave pending investigation" comes into play.  On the one hand, they have to protect the public from you in case the allegations are true.

          On the other hand, as a citizen you do have certain rights as an employee.  Civilians make idiotic complaints against us on a constant basis, so they can't just cut us off the roster without pay.  He's almost certainly in a union, and there's a complicated bee dance to be done.

          All of this is neither here nor there, however.  His rights have nothing to do with it.  This is the SOS of the agency doing whatever they have to do to avoid transparency.  Please see my other comments in this thread.

    •  For some, rights are things to be enjoyed (1+ / 0-)
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      by people we like. Those we don't like, like John Pike, do not have the same rights that we and our friends do. It challenges the definition of "right", but that doesn't bother some people either.

      •  It was generous of Twigg to rec your (2+ / 0-)
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        comment. Surely you understand he wasn't talking about the human rights or civil rights or even, necessarily, the legal rights of John Pike.

        My take on the diary is that he was questioning why the right of the students and the taxpayers who fund the University to know what action the University took is being violated.

        I doubt the University has the "right," legal or otherwise, to hide what action they took, for fear of being judged culpable in Pike's alleged (witnessed by thousands) crime.

        Republican Healthcare Plan: Everyone will be encouraged to move to Chris Collins' district, where noone dies of cancer.

        by WisePiper on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 11:10:38 PM PDT

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        •  I tend to rec all the comments in my Diaries (4+ / 0-)

          Only if I vehemently disagree do I withhold a comment tip.

          It's my way of thanking folk for contributing, and even if we disagree on the occasional point, we are mostly pulling in the same direction.

          I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
          but I fear we will remain Democrats.

          by twigg on Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 11:35:33 PM PDT

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        •  Actually, the university is probably (0+ / 0-)

          contractually bound to not reveal certain information about its employees.  This is not uncommon, particularly in unionized fields and shops.  They've got a privacy policy, just like a website.  Employee information, and particularly information about disciplinary activity, is generally covered by this kind of agreement.

          I have a feeling that one is in place, because I'm covered by a similar agreement where I work, and the response they got is similar to the one you'd get if you called up my job.  They could confirm that I either work there currently or did not work there, but that's pretty much about it without me signing forms to release information.  

  •  He wasn't the only one out there. (1+ / 0-)
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    What of the other thugs who held students down as he shoved the spray down their throats? Some were coughing blood for hours.

  •  Typically, a resignation letter is public info. (1+ / 0-)
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    if there is one.

    Thump! Bang. Whack-boing. It's dub!

    by dadadata on Wed Aug 01, 2012 at 03:54:50 AM PDT

  •  He probably got headhunted by Oakland or (4+ / 0-)
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    Sandino, AoT, twigg, glitterscale

    Anaheim PDs.  :P

    •  From what (0+ / 0-)

      I know, the guy is an absolute laughingstock among police, radioactive and untouchable.  Even in departments with very serious leadership issues like Oakland.

      You see, when police officers beef in private, the very first go-to insult is about their use of force.  All of that is documented, you see.  Every agency has an actual ledger of how many times each officer tazed someone, used pepper spray, etc.  Having a high score for force is like admitting that you got no game, all you can do is hit somebody.  In other words, it's admitting you're a dumbass and not that good at your job.

      So while there are surely wingnut asshole cops who love the guy and enjoyed watching the video, even they don't respect him.  It was punkery, plain and simple.  

      Worse yet he opened up his agency to massive lawsuits, which is going to make other agencies not want him around.  They also really hate making the news, IME.

  •  What Punchbowl Is This Piece Of Shit Floating In? (2+ / 0-)
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    twigg, glitterscale
    Chancellor Linda Katehi

    The Republican Party is Simply a Coalition of Greed and Hate

    by kerplunk on Wed Aug 01, 2012 at 06:19:00 AM PDT

  •  No mystery here at all (0+ / 0-)

    I could have told y'all exactly how this was going to play out as soon as it happened, and in fact I did try to tell some civilians at the time.

    This is 100% predictable.  Here's how it works.  I've seen this exactly same tactic used any time any public safety employee fucks up in a way that creates financial liability for the agency, i.e., firefighter causes traffic accident with injuries while driving ambulance.

    They wait until all the hubbub has died down.  Minimum six months.  During that time they start compiling a case against the person for infractions ranging from losing a flashlight to clocking out for lunch two minutes early.  They find other ways to make their life hell, i.e., transfer them to a shift where the supervisor/all their co-workers hate them.  The idea is to get them to leave on their own.  If they don't take the bait, then they concoct some utter bullshit to fire them over.  But rest assured, it will have absolutely nothing to do with the very real thing they did wrong.  In the convoluted, Machiavellian world of public safety, firing them for misconduct leaves the agency exposed financially.

    You see, had they fired Pike for brutality in that instance, they'd be on the hook for his racist, homophobic bullying of former Officer Calvin Chang years ago, as well as the students Chang complained about Pike brutalizing and harassing.  This because they not only took no action to protect Chang or the students, they promoted Pike to supervising 1/3 of the force.  I'd bet dollars to peanuts other co-workers used to complain about how he treated them, too.  So admitting they were wrong now would mean paying the piper from Day 1.

    They're going to do whatever they can to present an image of "no fault" regarding the incident in question, and just hold that thought till everybody forgets.  This play has been rerun more times than I Love Lucy.

    Regarding whether a resignation is public info, actually all of it is requestable information.  The internal investigation into the incident, the internals on the Calvin Chang thing, his entire personnel file.  Mind you they'll do whatever they can to hem and haw their way out of releasing that information, and it will take insider knowledge/assistance to actually get it from them.  But under the law it's our information.

    If anybody wants to actually do that, I can tell you exactly how to do so.  Do civilians actually want to understand the world of police, or just criticize from a distance?

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