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To be fair, you can understand why Romney would blame Obama for his plan.
Just when you think Mitt Romney has reached the pinnacle of absurdity, he somehow manages to reach new heights. The latest example: now he's claiming that his tax plan—the one that the Tax Policy Center says would force the middle-class to pay the cost of tax cuts for the wealthy—is actually Barack Obama's fault. For real:
While the tax study has emerged as a major component of the economic debate at the core of this year’s presidential campaign, Mr. Romney did not allude to the analysis to contest its conclusions as he campaigned in Colorado on Thursday. But in an interview with conservative Fox host Sean Hannity, Mr. Romney said “my plan is very similar to the Simpson-Bowles plan.”
And, Romney said of Simpson-Bowles, "that was his commission." So I guess that means Romney realizes his tax plan is so politically toxic that instead of defending it on its merits, he'd rather baselessly accuse President Obama of having come up with it first. There's a little problem with that strategy, however.
The Romney proposal, however, has little in common with that bipartisan deficit-reduction proposal from a majority on the fiscal commission that Mr. Obama created in 2010. The Simpson-Bowles plan called for reduced income tax rates, but it would have raised about $2 trillion more in tax revenues over 10 years, mostly from high-income taxpayers, and cut spending to reduce the federal debt.
So, as Stephen Colbert would say, Mitt Romney's tax plan is "very similar" to the Simpson-Bowles plan if by "very similar" you actually mean "completely different."

It's actually a pretty good indication of just how bad Romney's position is that he would resort to this sort of (as he would say) balderdash and poppycock. Yesterday, the best they could do was attack the study's authors instead of attacking the substance of the study. Now Romney is saying his plan is actually Obama's plan. And you don't have to read very far between the lines to realize that if Mitt Romney had one wish it would be that political Etch A Sketches were real.

Originally posted to The Jed Report on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 06:57 AM PDT.

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  •  The Simpson-Bowles Commission that... (40+ / 0-)

    ...(it should always be remembered) never produced an official report because not enough members of it could agree on what such a report should say.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 07:02:25 AM PDT

    •  Unfortunately... (13+ / 0-)

      ... nobody in Congress seems to remember that little truth.  It is still referred to in reverent terms as some sort of shibboleth of fiscal rectitude.  I heard just that from Chuck Schumer (D-Wall Street) when Morning Ho accidentally appeared on my teevee this morning.

      I fear the creeping legitimization of the Simpson and Bowles recommendations proceeds.  They have about as much legitimacy as Arthur Laffer's scribblings on a cocktail napkin, but they could turn out to be as influential.

      Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. --- Howard Zinn

      by Dallasdoc on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 07:15:00 AM PDT

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      •  "turnabout is fair play," but it's not (8+ / 0-)

        necessarily nice.  I'd say that Republicans are being hoist on their own promotion of deficit reduction.  That this promotion was never sincere is not beside the point; it is the point of demonstrating that what they claim to want is not what they want.

        Dubya's people understood that.  That's why they increased the national deficit.  Conservatives want to be able to lend funds to governments and collect fat dividends, instead of being taxed for what we need as we go along.
        Government's ability to tax to collect necessary revenue has always been a burr under the saddle of private enterprise, whose revenue stream depends on more or less satisfied customers.  That government can collect revenue even though the services (incarceration, fire suppression, flood prevention, etc.) aren't necessarily desired or even totally successful, strikes entrepreneurs faced with the risk of market saturation or the outright rejection of product as unfair.  So, they've lusted after that guaranteed income stream and found it in forcing governments to issue bonds by electing politicians who agree to put restraints on current receipts, leaving them with few alternatives but to borrow for capital expenditures.  (The other alternative, of course, is just to let public assets deteriorate and return to the bosom of mother earth).
        As long as the regular tax burden is constrained, bond clippers aren't all that concerned about the rate of return.  What they value most of all is a guaranteed income stream, even if it's just a combination of many trickles.

        (You see, "trickle down economics" wasn't about the income of working people.  Now, what needs to trickle steadily is the income of the unearned income crowd.  The folks down at the country club and the yacht club and the bridge club).

        But, ever since about 2000, the national debt and the deficit have been a problem to the clubbers.  At the end of Clinton/Gore, the problem was that the annual deficit had been turned into a surplus, as a result of Republican goading, and the national debt had begun to shrink.  As a result, the Federal Reserve Bank, concluding that there was plenty of money around, started reducing the interest rate it charges member banks for loans.  And this had the snowball effect of making all interest rates, as well as dividends on bonds, fall. The trickle of guaranteed income looked like it was going to dry up.  Which is why Greenspan reversed himself and now announced that the budget surplus was a problem and Republicans set about, lickety split, to send more money into the pockets of the clubbers by giving them tax cuts.  Which might have been nice except for the fact that didn't do anything for the bond clippers, who don't pay income taxes on dividends from government bonds to begin with, but it did send pensioners with modest CDs into the arms of the developers of "speculative products" that promised a larger trickle but no guarantee.

        Well, raising the FDIC guarantee to $250,000 was supposed to be reassuring, but the guarantee did not make up for the fact that interest income had been cut by more than 50%.

        (See, percentages are tricky. When a rate goes from 4% to 5%, that's a 25% increase, but when it goes from 5% to 4%, that's only a 20% decrease, even though the effect of having $4 instead of $5 is likely to feel much worse. When a retiree's nest egg of $100,000 was bringing in $6000 a year or $500 a month and that's suddenly reduced suddenly reduced by half, what was a modest income of $1400 a month is no longer enough to live on. Less costly prescription drugs does nothing to make that up.

        Did the denizens of Lucreville give any thought to what their playing with interest rates would do to people who drink tea, rather than bourbon on the rocks?  Probably not. But the denizens of Middle America suddenly woke up to the fact that the people responsible for taking their modest savings were now wanting to gamble with their Medicare. That Republicans, as usual, were just using empty threats to energize their base didn't register.

        "Keep your hands off my Medicare was a cry of desperation."

        Note that whom it was addressed to was left unspecified.  Unfortunately, that Republicans regularly alternate between false promises and false threats hasn't really registered.

        A rational person would ask, "why would the people we elected do that?"  The answer, of course, is that fear helps "protectors" get elected and getting elected is all some public officials care about. And why is that?  Because it's the only thing they are good at -- making up scary stories.
        It's what puts food on their table.

        Willard's forte = "catch 'n' cage". He's not into "catch and release."

        by hannah on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 08:12:47 AM PDT

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      •  Right. But Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky was (4+ / 0-)

        on the Commission and was outspoken in her opposition to Simpson's idiotic ideas.

        More importantly, she presented an alternative plan:

        Her plan, which she claims would achieve fiscal balance by 2015, includes a host of ideas that were not included in the report released last week by Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles. It makes provision for another $200 billion worth of stimulus to take the form of unemployment insurance extensions and additional aid to states.

        On spending, the Schakowski plan calls for $8.55 billion in non-defense discretionary spending cuts in 2015, largely by ending overpayments by federal agencies for various programs, including Medicaid. She says her plan would save over $110 billion on the defense side, by reducing overseas troop deployments, and shrinking the nuclear arsenal, among numerous other options.

        By adding a robust public option to the health care law and requiring Medicare to bargain down drug prices, among other options, Schakowsky says she can save over $17 billion of mandatory spending in 2015.

        Schakowsky proposes to limit the extent to which corporations can deduct interest payments on debt, and close a loophole that allows firms to avoid paying taxes on income earned overseas — reforms she says would save over $100 billion in 2015. She would also require dividends and capital gains to be taxed as ordinary income (i.e., at higher rates than they are now, in many cases), and would erect a cap and trade system for greenhouse gas emissions, generating over $140 billion in revenue.

        http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/...

        Our job as progressives is to push for her proposals and support/pressure the Presidentand Dems in Congress into  not collaborating on a Grand Bargain over whatever hostages are presented by Republicans .

        How did Supreme Court decision ACA help the 23 million still uncovered? Ask the 18,000 Doctors of PNHP -- they're not waiting, FORWARD now to pass H.R. 676, the “Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act .

        by divineorder on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 08:35:29 AM PDT

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      •  Rectal fiscitude. (2+ / 0-)
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        rMoney: Just another jerk, lookin' for work.

        by OleHippieChick on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 08:35:48 AM PDT

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      •  and that is why Mitt's claim of parity.... (4+ / 0-)

        between his plan and Simpson-Bowles is a PLUS for us.

        Most people do NOT know what SB would do and how it would impact them.

        Meanwhile, The Tax Policy Center analysis shows that MITT's proposals would require the middle class to pay hundreds and even thousands more so Mitt and the 1% can get even more tax CUTS.

        So, if Mitt says HIS plan is like SB, that gives US a very easy way to conflate the two....Mitt AND SB are designed to screw the middle class......

        The Tax Policy Center analysis can't find any way to make the numbers work on Mitt's plan AND Mitt says his plan is like SB...ergo it sucks just like his does.

        Simple answers to complex questions.

        But be aware....all those wonderful folks who tried to pass SB are back at it once again.  Via a Noontime post from Digby of Aug. 2 -

        FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

        July 25, 2012

        The Hon. David M. Walker, former U.S. Comptroller General, today announced a first-of-its-kind national bus tour to engage Americans about our nation's deteriorating financial condition — and show them what they can do to help restore fiscal sanity.

        The "$10 Million a Minute Tour" will help voters understand that we face a fiscal cliff in January 2013 and a possible U.S. debt crisis within the next two years.

        No matter what progress we make to improve economic growth and generate jobs, our nation’s current fiscal path puts our collective future severely at risk: jobs, education, health care, a secure retirement, infrastructure, national security, mortgage rates, an effective social safety net to prevent more poverty, and the success or failure of thousands of businesses.

        Yet every minute, our nation's financial hole gets deeper by about $10 million.

        The Comeback America Initiative (CAI) has developed a U.S. Financial Burden Barometer (Burden Barometer) to supplement the "National Debt Clock." The Burden Barometer is a far more accurate measure of our financial situation, since it includes both total liabilities and unfunded promises (e.g., Social Security and Medicare).

        snip
        A who's who of national leaders support the tour, including:

        • Former Senators Alan Simpson (R-WY), Pete Domenici (R-NM), Sam Nunn (D-Ga.), and Judd Gregg (R-N.H.)
        • Former Rep. Harold Ford, Jr. (D-TN) and Tom Coleman (R-MO)
        • Hon. Erskine Bowles
        • Former Director of the OMB and CBO Alice Rivlin
        • Former Chairmen of the Federal Reserve Alan Greenspan and Paul Volcker
        • Former DNC Chairs and Governors Ed Rendell and Roy Romer
        • Former RNC Chairs and Senators Bill Brock and Mel Martinez
        • Former Presidential candidate H. Ross Perot, Sr.
        • Former AARP CEO Bill Novelli
        • Former Lockheed Martin CEO Norm Augustine
        • Former SEIU CEO Andy Stern
        • Former Deloitte CEO Mike Cook
        • Sojourners CEO Rev. Jim Wallis
        • Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina

        snip

        And a list of cities to be visited by the tour:

        Manchester, NH
        Friday, September 7 2012

        New Haven, CT
        Saturday, September 8 2012

        New York, NY
        Monday, September 10 2012

        Philadelphia, PA
        Tuesday, September 11 2012

        Pittsburgh, PA
        Wednesday, September 12 2012

        Columbus, OH
        Thursday, September 13 2012

        Cleveland, OH
        Friday, September 14 2012

        Brunswick, OH
        Saturday, September 15 2012

        Milwaukee, WI
        Monday, September 17 2012

        St. Louis, MO
        Tuesday, September 18 2012

        Des Moines, IA
        Wednesday, September 19 2012

        Denver, CO
        Friday, September 21 2012

        Las Vegas, NV
        Monday, September 24 2012

        Phoenix, AZ
        Tuesday, September 25 2012

        Tucson, AZ
        Wednesday, September 26 2012

        Dallas, TX
        Friday, September 28 2012

        Orlando, FL
        Tuesday, October 2 2012

        Jacksonville, FL
        Wednesday, October 3 2012

        Atlanta, GA
        Thursday, October 4 2012

        Raleigh, NC
        Friday, October 5 2012

        Northern VA
        Saturday, October 6 2012

        Washington, DC
        Tuesday, October 9 2012

        As digby concludes....you don't think they are trying to in any way influence the upcoming election do you?

        Time to organize and make voices heard at every local stop this band of bozos makes.....

        Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.

        by dweb8231 on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 08:42:04 AM PDT

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  •  Oh Mitt. Say Anything was a movie... (17+ / 0-)

    not a path to election gold.

    Pitiful, as usual

    Was a cold and dark December when the banks became cathedrals...

    by althea in il on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 07:03:03 AM PDT

  •  Romney's summer has been spent (29+ / 0-)

    listening to a debate on whether he is 1) a clueless rich guy who's real out of touch with the plight of ordinary folks; 2) a corporate jobs assassin gutting companies and tossing workers overboard; or 3) a lying weasel with no vision.

    Give 'em hell, Willard.

  •  Wonder who the GOP will retroactively nominate... (18+ / 0-)

    Dudehisattva...

    "Generosity, Ethics, Patience, Effort, Concentration, and Wisdom"

    by Dood Abides on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 07:04:05 AM PDT

  •  This would be a wonderful time for a real reporter (4+ / 0-)
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    if he ever got a chance to interview W. Mitt to respond to that allegation with

    "In what respect, Charlie?"

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 07:04:20 AM PDT

  •  Mitt is destroying the English language..... (15+ / 0-)

    with an unrelenting stream of nonsense that pretends to convey meaning.

    If cats could blog, they wouldn't

    by crystal eyes on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 07:06:17 AM PDT

  •  Obama has Romney on the defensive, AGAIN. (31+ / 0-)

    Once again, Romney isn't driving him his message or setting the agenda. He just can't get on top of these things. Getting into fights with Harry Reid. Stumbling in Ohio. This campaign is beginning to become unglued.

  •  Also from past words of Stephen Colbert (25+ / 0-)
    It makes sense if you don't think about it.

    "Kiss my ass, this is a Holy site" - a RomneyBot 2012 media expert, addressing the media

    by lotac on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 07:10:22 AM PDT

  •  Amazing that you have to use every tactic in the (4+ / 0-)
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    book to smoke a candidate out.

  •  Man, Romney is really flailing all over the place (13+ / 0-)

    He's getting pounded on all sides and he doesn't know how to react, so he's lashing out wilidly and making one bizarre comment after the other. I mean, "put up or shut up?" His spokesman's "kiss my ass?" This is like a campaign run by surly seventh graders.

    Not exactly a place one wants to be so near the conventions. He'll be staggering into Tampa with no momentum at all. Even the Veep pick won't help him much at this rate, especially if it's some dull as dirt zombie like Portman or T-Paw.

    •  That comparison is an insult to 7th graders, (2+ / 0-)
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      who have way more common sense, street smarts, and understanding of normal humans than Mittens will ever have.

      "But there is so much more to do." - Barack Obama, Nov. 4, 2008

      by flitedocnm on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 08:12:05 AM PDT

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    •  Actually he needs a steadying VP pick (0+ / 0-)

      morepick more than ever. A good pick would give him someone at the top who actually has a clue about attack politics. I used to rule Christie out but I am beginning to wonder. Christie appeals to white men quite strongly and he is super-aggressive. White working class support has to be pushed to its limits in order for Romney to have a chance. If Christie is on the ticket, Romney's chances of winning get a significant bump. So you have to hope that Christie says a big NO! And that Romney remains incompetent.

      The universe may have a meaning and a purpose, but it may just specifically not include you.

      by Anne Elk on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 08:44:46 AM PDT

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    •  Oh my Welcome Back (0+ / 0-)

      "Mitt's OK, as long as everyone he meets is named Mr. Leader or Bruce." Me

      by nellgwen on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 10:00:22 AM PDT

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    •  And despite all that (0+ / 0-)

      he's neck and neck with Obama in the polls.  It's fucked up.

      "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

      by Subterranean on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 03:07:50 PM PDT

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  •  would be nice if we had an informed (3+ / 0-)
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    4th estate, and that they would call Mitt out on this.

    Wouldn't it?

    Wouldn't that be nice?

    So, we have the NYTimes calling him out.  Any other takers.  Anyone on the boob-tube?


    "A recent study reveals Americans' heads are larger than they were 150 years ago but sadly there is no indication that the extra room is used for anything." - entlord

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 07:31:03 AM PDT

  •  ah, so the (6+ / 0-)

    "The report is a joke" thing didn't work, huh Mitt?


    "A recent study reveals Americans' heads are larger than they were 150 years ago but sadly there is no indication that the extra room is used for anything." - entlord

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 07:31:54 AM PDT

  •  Romney says, "The dog ate my homework" again. (12+ / 0-)

    Except the dog is strapped to the roof of the car and can't even get to his own food, never mind the homework.

    I swear this guy doesn't take an ounce of responsibility for ANYTHING. I would just once like to hear him say, "Yes, that was a gigantic mess and it's really my fault." (Doesn't mean I'll like him. I just want to hear him say it. Just 'cuz.)

  •  Romney (5+ / 0-)

    is the man of 10,000 excuses. He never deals directly with things on the media. He certainly doesn´t seem to be the ¨decider¨ type. I the Obama campaign has the flip flopper cartridge ready to fire near the convention (to remind all them Paulites). I´m surprised Romney´s eel-like charisma  and political kite surfing has not been used yet on an add (should be a comical one, people enjoy and remember those the best)

  •  Rafalaca (2+ / 0-)
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    Another tax break for millionaire

  •  With any luck at all ... (5+ / 0-)

    ... Romney will look so ridiculous by the time this whole sorry period is past that we won't have to hear him laugh again.

    But we haven't been lucky with Trump, so I guess Romney will be no different.  There will always be some schmuck willing to report his utterances.

    "The fears of one class of men are not the measure of the rights of another." ~ George Bancroft (1800-1891)

    by JBL55 on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 07:41:52 AM PDT

  •  How Rafalca is doing? (2+ / 0-)
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    TXdem, OleHippieChick

    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 07:52:57 AM PDT

  •  They are obsessed (6+ / 0-)

    with this strategy of assign Obama the very qualities they are being criticized for. It's pathological and it's also horrible politics. What's worse, the strategy is so clunkingly obvious and so persistent that it must be the result of a massive coordinated effort by the campaign. Which means it is surely being practiced with the direct approval of Romney himself. Which, when you think what is being promulgated here, is quite frightening.

  •  Does a day go by where Rmoney is NOT.. (5+ / 0-)

    on Hannity?  

    This is a pretty good sign.  The number of times he's on Hannity is in direct proportion to how often he's on the defensive and needs the Fox mouthpiece to respond to damaging narratives.

  •  Presidential Debates (4+ / 0-)
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    On the one hand, I cannot wait for President Obama to debate Governor Romney about all this silliness.

    On the other hand, I am still of the mind that Mitt Romney will not agree to any debates.

    •  The debates have been scheduled (1+ / 0-)
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      nellgwen

      He can only refuse to show up...not gonna happen.

    •  Debates are tough for incumbents. (1+ / 0-)
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      PorridgeGun

      Obama will have a tough time in the domestic policy debate.  His best bet is to look for a draw.  Fewer debates actually favor the President because his message is connecting better than Romney's.  A debate gives the challenger a chance to reframe the election.  Best example was Kerry, who had a horrible six weeks from the middle of August '04 to the end of September and re-energized his campaign with 3 strong debate performances (the first being the best).  He narrowed the gap with Bush and had a shot to win on election day.  We want to avoid that scenario this year.

      Alternative rock with something to say: http://www.myspace.com/globalshakedown

      by khyber900 on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 08:37:38 AM PDT

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      •  You skipped over the part (1+ / 0-)
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        where Kerry could actually speak and Bush had to be wired to receive his answers.

        Based on his primary performances, Romney doesn't come across as a particularly stellar speaker.  He was debating some real cream puffs.

        Obama isn't Bush when it comes to speaking.

        Obama might have to take some shots about the economy but he can point to all the things he has done through executive orders to get around an paralyzed Congress and use it an an opportunity to go on the offensive and make the case that we need to take back the House with more reasonable Democrats.  Start making Republicans sweat that the Romney fail is going to trickle down.

        I for one am looking forward to seeing the president step up to the podium.  I'm betting he's going to be fierce like our Olympic gymnasts.

      •  John Kerry is playing Mitt Romney (1+ / 0-)
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        John Kerry will take the role of Mitt Romney to prepare the President for the debates.

        President Obama is a far better debater.

        Coincidentally, there is a man who happened to be classmates with both Romney & Obama at Harvard.  He believes that President Obama will more than win the debates.

        So honestly, I really do not agree with your premise that the incumbent, President Obama, will have a hard time against Mitt Romney.  The President is self deprecating and will remind people why they voted for him in the first place.

        On the other hand, Mitt Romney was riled by Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, and even Rick Perry at times.  When he gets riled, he loses his cool.

        In my opinion, the more debates the better for President Obama.

        I can hear it now, "Was that when you were a moderate running for governor of Mass. or is that you position now in order to pander the Tea Party."  Of course, President Obama will actually sound presidential when he says it.

        Mitt Romney has no core principles and the President will expose his weakness.  The weakness of the President is a poor economy that he inherited and the unwillingness of the GOP to offer anything beyond more tax cuts for the wealthy.

        BRING IT ON!!

  •  The Morning Talking Point Marching Orders (3+ / 0-)
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    Always seems to start with FOX news. Then during the course of the day you see GOP talking heads repeat them like a mantra. Daily Show always does a wonderful job of tape editing to show this. The Romney campaign doesn't seem to be giving GOP spokespeople anything to work with as far as new talking points that can be repeated. This is a great example.  From the "I was for it before I was against it" school of convincing political rhetoric.

  •  Romney keeps screwing up (2+ / 0-)
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    While I'm not a big fan of Obama, this country will be so much worse off if Romney gets elected.  Fortunately, Romney keeps making screwups. First, he praised Israel's single-payer, government run health care system, then praised Poland for keeping the government out of the economy, while the numbers say otherwise.

    If anyone is interested in the details, I did a couple posts on these topics, with some interesting statistics, on my blog at politicalcreativity.net

  •  Hey! I use those words! (1+ / 0-)
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    "Poppycock" not so much, but "balderash," pretty much every day.

    And I'm a pony-tailed, pseudo-socialist history prof -- not a gold medalist in the Twit Olympics like Mr. Romney here!

    Conservatives believe evil comes from violating rules. Liberals believe evil comes from violating each other.

    by tcorse on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 08:33:46 AM PDT

  •  The key for Obama in the month of August (3+ / 0-)
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    is to keep staying on message and to push Romney off his.  For this last week of July/first week of August, Obama seems to have been successful.

    The positive data for July will buoy the campaign into next week. and the tax issue will continue to dog Romney (both his personal taxes and his tax policy).  

    The challenge for Team Obama will be the following 2 weeks.  Romney will get a lot of media attention because of their convention, but more GOP surrogates will get air time to attempt to amplify Romney's message and mitigate his gaffes.  It was at that point in 2004 that the Swift Boat attacks took hold just as Bush was preparing for his convention.  Obama has to avoid gaffes, stay on message, buoy his supporters and keep the heat on Romney.

    Obama is having a good summer so far, and I believe his real surge will come in September through mid-October.  If he can maintain his current position, he will be in great shape come the fall.

    Alternative rock with something to say: http://www.myspace.com/globalshakedown

    by khyber900 on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 08:35:36 AM PDT

  •  What Really Bothers Me (5+ / 0-)

    is that someone who pays ultra-low or no taxes (even if it's "legal"), who plans to increase taxes on everyone except himself and his super-rich cronies, who urges that Americans fight wars while keeping himself and his children out of them, who does his banking and investing overseas, and whose business experience consists of destroying American businesses and outsourcing American jobs thinks he has enough "standing" to be President of the United States.  

  •  Not to mention, the S-B Comm. didn't have a plan. (1+ / 0-)
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    TheLizardKing

    Some members of the commission supported a plan that the commission as a whole didn't support.

    So, to play this six-degrees-of-Kevin-Bacon: Mitt Romney has a plan which is similar in some ways to a plan that some members of a commission that Barack Obama formed published, but which Barack Obama himself didn't support, and which is considerably different from the tax plan he did support.

    Art is the handmaid of human good.

    by joe from Lowell on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 08:37:57 AM PDT

  •  TRUMP: THE PLANE (1+ / 0-)
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    OldDragon

    Good work by the Obama campaign to tie Mitt Romney to Donald Trump with the subliminable message of the Donald's plane being in the background.

    "In short, fate's distribution of long straws is wildly capricious." -Warren Buffett

    by Louisville Liberal Lion on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 08:41:55 AM PDT

  •  Parser error (2+ / 0-)
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    OldDragon, OleHippieChick

    I know someone who is or running for POTUS must expect every utterance to be gone over with a fine tooth comb.  But sometimes you can parse things a little too carefully.

    This, to me, is one of those times. He said his plan is similar to Simpson-Bowles - which, in typical Romney speak, is a half truth, allowing his supporters to point to the half that's true.  It has some features of Simpson-Bowles, but takes the idea in to politically unrealistic territory - you'd have to get rid of pretty much every middle class tax break. No mortgage interest deduction? Get real.

    Simpson-Bowles was a commission on Obama's watch, but it wasn't stuffed with Democrats or even people who would take a line set by Obama.  So calling it Obama's is, again, a half-truth.

    Trying to connect up those statements to say Romney's plan is Obama's plan is more than a stretch, becauseit takes the overlap and treats them as equivalences.

    Yes, Romney might have been being vague enough that his statements could be interpreted that way, but we all know that isn't what he meant, and not exactly what he said.

    Frankly, I think Romney seldom knows exactly what Romney said, the man pushes vague rambling statements out faster than a psychotic off his meds. He's a perfect example of what an intelligent person spewing nonsense sounds like.

  •  Romney (2+ / 0-)
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    OleHippieChick, nellgwen

    Can never take the fall for his own idiotic behaviors and ideas. He always has to pin it on someone else.

  •  Similar excuse made for Bush (0+ / 0-)

    One of my long ago dkos comment about this WorldNetDaily (WND) commentary.

    Some of the  WND craziness:

    One detrimental result of having such a subversive press is that it generates a low-grade hypnotic effect on the president and other leaders. ...  (The press corps is)  secretly hostile to you and, in fact, hostile to the foundational values underlying Western Civilization. ... Remember – they want Kerry to win.
    And here's the unbelievable "the other guy made him do it" part:
    Why did George W. Bush come up with a budget-busting prescription drug benefit program before the 2000 election? Because Al Gore had promised a budget-busting prescription drug benefit program and the media made the public feel that any candidate that didn't offer a prescription drug benefit program hated old people and shouldn't be president.

    Honest reporting would have relieved Bush of the election-year pressure to mirror Gore’s vote-buying giveaway promises.

    Yeah, poor spineless Bush who crumbled in the face of withering media reporting.

    At least I'll give Bush & Co. credit that they didn't create this lame excuse, but I don't think we've seen the bottom of Romney & Co's excuse barrel yet.   At this rate, Sarah "Lamestream Media Whiner" Palin actually looks better than Romney and tends to indicate that McCain did make a better choice for VP!

  •  I'm on a mobile device so i won't (0+ / 0-)

    attempt to link the article but back in February the President floated a Bowles-Simpson-esque plan that called for increased corporate tax cuts (with tax code reforms) and spending cuts and or negative changes to ss and other programs.

    Independent analysis indicated that the cuts were undunded snd deficit producing to the tune of $1.5 trillion.

    Rmoney's stated plan at the time (from memory) would have added $3.5 trillion

  •  I feel like I've entered bizarro world (0+ / 0-)

    In which the lie Mitt's running on is that his policies are no different than the President's.

  •  How many times has Romney been on Hannity? (0+ / 0-)

    He seems to be on frequently giving these stellar quotes.

  •  Mitt Wants To Be... (0+ / 0-)

    ...Barack Obama! His Healthcare Plan was co-opted by the President, now his Tax Plan is "very similar" to the President's plan.

    What's next? Move to Chicago and get a dog with curly hair?  Oh wait....not so much on the dog.

  •  "Very similar" relates only to the word "PLAN" (0+ / 0-)

    "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave." -- Patrick Henry

    by BornDuringWWII on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 09:36:12 AM PDT

  •  SO, if my plan sucks it's the other guys fault. (0+ / 0-)

    Forget for a moment that the commission couldn't agree and there was no report.  Forget that Obama never did anything with the bits of bad ideas the beltway loves so much.  Forget that Obama's choice of plans is completely different from Rmoney's plan.

    Rmoney now wants to blame Obama because HE chose a plan that Obama did not.

    What makes me saddest is that there are far too many, possibly as many as 51% of Americans who will somehow think Rmoney is right and blame Obama for Rmoney bad decisions.

    I can see it now, Rmoney, as president, bombs Iran and all hell breaks loose:  It's Obama's fault!  He didn't listen to McCain and now look what he made me do!

    Newt Gingrich, during the primaries, on releasing Rmoney's tax returns: "If there's anything in there that's going to help us lose the election, we should know it before the nomination, and if there's nothing in there, why not release it?"

    by Back In Blue on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 11:03:18 AM PDT

  •  It's painfully obvious (0+ / 0-)

    Mr. Romney, it's painfully obvious that you cannot defend your tax plan.  First, you attack the Tax Policy Center (but you loved them when they critiqued Gov. Perry's plan) and its analysis showing just how flawed the plan is, and now you're trying to say that the plan was somehow Obama's (Simpson-Bowles) all along.  Mr. Romney, if your plan can be defended, then defend it but stop with this childish and transparent charade.

    I'm too [insert adjective of choice, e.g., sane] to vote Republican.

    by Linus Too on Fri Aug 03, 2012 at 12:04:50 PM PDT

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