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Ok, in this blog I am going to try my hardest to keep the anger fairy encouraging me to turn the outrage and sarcasm up to 11 off my left shoulder.

In order to do this I'm going to have to get past the fact that the person the GOP have all but officially rubber stamped as their candidate for POTUS is currently a senior member of, and was formerly a "bishop" of, a crazy cultish religion established by a convicted con man who literally pulled his teachings out of a hat; a faith that maintains ridiculous beliefs such as God lives on the planet Kobol, The Garden of Eden was in Missouri, Jesus did a post mortem publicity tour of the USA, and that when he returns he will build Jesusville in Missouri; a religion that hates gays and encourages its followers to shun ex-members and cut off all contact with them; and its adherants believe that magic underwear will protect the wearer from evil influences. Hard as that may be, I will set that aside.

Instead I will focus on his second place running mate, the glassy-eyed-piano-grinning-chuck-granny-over-a-cliff supposed faithful adherent of the Catholic faith.... yes, Paul Ryan .

You see this being American politics I'm certain as can be that Mr Ryan will be wheeling out his Christianity as a selling point, and explaining with sincerity dripping puppy dog eyes and crocodile tears how his deep love of the faith makes him such a moral person, and how that faith leads his decision and policy making. And this being American politics I'm also certain that at NO point will any responsible journalist ever have the temerity to question his hypocrisy and reveal it to the public.

However.... just in case there's someone out there with the stones to pin Ryan down on that, possibly by lobbing "Gotcha" questions at him during Q&A sessions or rope lines at any of the upcoming rallies and town halls where his gurning mug will be turning up on tour, here is what the Roman Catholic Church ACTUALLY believes and states.

(if you do manage to HitchSlap him try and make sure you catch it on video and get it up on YouTube and sites like this and Crooks and Liars).

CAPITAL PUNISHMENT: Central Catholic doctrine states that capital punishment under any circumstances is a "moral abomination". Those are the words of the current Pope, and echo the selfsame positions stated publicly and in official statements by the previous holders of the office.

POVERTY/INCOME INEQUALITY: Pope Benedict has stated more than once that poverty and income inequality in developed western states is "a scandal" that must be combated to ensure a fair society for all. He has railed against societies disregard for tackling such inequality on many occasions. He has said that this is "societal selfishness" and is "immoral wickedness".

WELFARE: Roman Catholic Church doctrine is clear on this - a strong social welfare safety net is essential to protect the poor and needy. That safety net must, as a foundation stone, include welfare related healthcare systems to protect the old and needy. The Pope has said this many times, and the US RCC has petitioned the Whitehouse and spoken directly to the POTUS on the matter several times (ie July 2011). The RCC do not consider any system that relies mostly on privatized heath providers and insurers to be an adequate safety net.

MARKET REGULATION: The Vatican has called for not only robust systems of tight market regulation in respect of financial markets, but also in October 2011 issued a report via its Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace which specifically called for a trans-national body to be established to oversee the international financial markets. They have stated that these strict regulations "are necessary to bring more democratic and ethical principles to a marketplace run amok". The report also states “We should not be afraid to propose new ideas, even if they might destabilize pre-existing balances of power that prevail over the weakest,”. The report was directly based on a statement made by the Pope in 2009.

WORKERS RIGHTS: The Roman Catholic Church has been strongly pro-Union and pro-workers rights (including pay negotiation and fair living wages) since Pope Leo issued the Rerum Novarum in 1891, and maintains that standpoint to this day via its Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church. The Compendium outlines the core tenet that such organizations and systems are the only adequate protections the working man has against the abuses of greedy employers. The Compendium is a central core document of faith and dogma in respect of RCC social policy.

CLIMATE CHANGE: The Roman Catholic Church, and Pope Benedict, have stated on many occasions that man made climate change is fact, and have called on national governments and international agencies to combat it as a priority. The Pope sent an official address on the matter expressing his support to the 17th U.N. Climate Change Conference in Durban, and via his US bishops has also petitioned the POTUS and Whitehouse to make the matter a priority action point.

TORTURE & IMPRISONMENT: The Roman Catholic Church doctrine is clear on these matters. Its states clearly that imprisonment without trial and the use of any form of torture are "intrinsic evils". Further, the Church does not recognize the validity of using sanitized terminology such as "enhanced interrogation" to excuse, condone or permit torture.

WAR: Roman Catholic Church official doctrine on this is just as clear. War is not permissible unless it is to directly defend your country from attack across its own borders, and then only on the basis of defense. Aggressive warmaking is considered a serious sin against the Church, as is voicing support for such actions. Pope Benedict has decried aggressive warmaking as foreign policy on many occasions.

CREATIONISM: Roman Catholic Church doctrine and statements on Creationism have called it a "false doctrine" and "intellectually corrupt". The RCC have also stated that there is no foundation whatsoever to teach such beliefs as accepted science, and that to do so seriously compromises the quality of a child's education. Note that the RCC link such beliefs to Old Testament Biblical Literalism, which they also maintain is a "false doctrine".

AND FINALLY: All of the above doctrinal points are considered by the Roman Catholic Church to be "matters of faith and morality". As such they fall directly under the Roman Catholic Church canon law of Magisterium. This states that on such matters the Pope and his church are considered infallible, and that to question or argue against those teachings sets you outside the Church. To state that contradictions are led by your faith is not only a lie, but according to Magisterium technically a heresy.

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So my US chums, feel free to give Mr Ryan a few HitchSlaps - after all he has been getting them for over a year now by that brave group of Nuns that dog his trail and point out his hypocrisy.

Perhaps if you hear him bleat about some imagined "war on religion" (and we have already seen that one run up the flagpole by the magic underpants man) you could point out that it his his beliefs that are actually a war on the doctrine of the Catholic Church he claims to be a faithful follower of.

Ryan can not argue that he is unaware of these matters I point out here. After all, he does go on about what a good Catholic he is. I read the Catholic press, even though I'm an atheist, and there have been enough articles there pointing these matters out. f he tries that tack then the logical response is "You do remember the rule against bearing false witness don't you Mr Ryan?".

Good luck my US chums, have a laugh, make it very public, and as the Athenian War Archon Miltiades shouted to his troops facing down the Persians at the Battle of Marathon

AT THEM!

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  •  Obama needs to own the Christian message (4+ / 0-)

    he and/or Biden should join the Nuns on the Bus and talk about how yes, the message of Jesus is how we want to run this country, compassion, non-judgement, forgiveness, love and caring for each other and those less fortunate.

    I really hate organized religion but even I would be fine with that message!

    •  Nyet. (4+ / 0-)
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      GreenPA, toad718, Texdude50, Temmoku

      Bad. Idea.
      We need less theocracy, not more. Values are values because they are values, not because the Magic Sky Fairy will spank you for all eternity if you don't heed them. We do what is right because it is right, not ourt of fear of negartive consequences.

      "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

      by kestrel9000 on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 05:14:27 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  But winning is how we spread our values. nt (0+ / 0-)
      •  Compassion and kindness are human traits. (2+ / 0-)
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        The fact that some Christians claim they are uniquely ethical does not make it so.  Christianity has no monopoly on ethics, in fact, they seem to be pretty bad at it as a general rule.

        Compassion and kindness are human traits.  When Christians espouse those values, the do it because they are human, not because they follow Jesus.  Although if someone wants to credit their compassion and kindness to a religious source that's acceptable.  If a Christian wants to follow through on that, they ought to concern themselves with figuring out what political compassion would look like.  And what it looks like is liberal.

        Some of us may arrive there for different reasons, but if we do arrive there, we're on the same side.  It doesn't matter to me that a Christian may believe their morals come from a different source than me.  If they have a desire to help the impoverished and disadvantaged, that's ultimately what matters, and it's ultimately all that should matter to a progressive.

        We may still have some disagreements, but those are more personal (less political) and matter much less.

  •  Catholics are so good at the morals thing. (4+ / 0-)
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    I do wish they would stop abusing children.

    I used to be Snow White. And then I drifted. - Mae West

    by CherryTheTart on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 05:01:09 AM PDT

  •  Fix: (3+ / 0-)
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    planet KOLOB.
    Small thing. Aside from that, nice work. Tiprec.

    "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

    by kestrel9000 on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 05:11:44 AM PDT

  •  thanks for saying what can't be said (5+ / 0-)

    in polite company. No one in this election will have the guts to point out how strange RMoney's religion is or  how deeply involved in RMoney's election and Bain the "Church" is.  Or the fact that Ayn Ryan is an immoral atheist in Catholic's clothing putting aside how strange that religion's clothing is to non Catholics. "Religious" people will be offended and don't listen anyway other than to condemn to hell the person drawing such conclusions.
     My sister, a born again whatever you get born again into is creaming her jeans at the Romney ticket for some reason I can't fathom, and believe me I won't go there with her.
     As a practicing Bokononist, I believe that God likes people in sailboats better than he likes people in rowboats and that we're headed for ice nine regardless of the current rhetoric on either side.
      Now, as I've let it be known, You'll probably find me hanging from the hook in the morning.
     Naw, I'm the observer. I'll be watching as Bokonon himself touches ice nine to his lips. Someone has to.

    "HAPPINESS IS A CHOICE" , bumpersticker on a burning Subaru

    by tRueffert on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 05:19:26 AM PDT

  •  The smartest thing Dems could do (0+ / 0-)

    is start a campaign to convert evangelicals and Catholics to the Mormon church. Harry Reid could do it. Love to see the right's response.

    "HAPPINESS IS A CHOICE" , bumpersticker on a burning Subaru

    by tRueffert on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 05:37:03 AM PDT

  •  I'm Sorry But the Church is Bitterly Fighting All (5+ / 0-)
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    those things in its unending campaign to elect rightwing Republicans. Per Meteor Blades, and some older guy, we know them by their deeds.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 05:44:59 AM PDT

    •  Irrelevant...and untrue (1+ / 0-)
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      As I point out, Vatican representatives have lobbied the POTUS directly and the Whitehouse on several of the matters above. The US RCC have been lobbying against capital punishment for over a decade now for example.

      THAT SAID, the fact that in the US they are give a say and have any form of privileged access to the government is a shameful indictment of how Jefferson and Madison's wall of separation has been utterly and totally broken down.

      You in the US have, more than any other western state, allowed religion to pollute your politics and vice versa.... and you reap the whirlwind more and more every year as a result.

      The RCC should have no more access, and no greater a voice, than any other special interest group.

      And certainly, when it comes to matters of morality, any sane person should tell them to f*ck off and clean their own act up before lecturing anyone else on the topic.

  •  There are people who now claim that religion (0+ / 0-)

    needs to be looked at with the Republican candidate because it will influence decisions.  So, here we go on that roller coaster again.

    I remember my parents being very worried with respect to JFK being a Catholic and how it may harm their world.  Rightfully so since they were Orthodox Jews.  However it became a known disclaimer amongst Democrats to say that didn't count because JFK was not a faithful follower of the Catholic faith.  Really?

    The faith card really does not need to be played out here.  Romney speaks out of both sides of his mouth.  A flaw that even Disney would admit to with this puppet. He revealed same when announcing Paul as his running mate.  As for him, hopefully his stance on Medicare should put everyone on alert.

    My Dad found a plaque while on vacation one year and brought it back home and hung it in my bedroom.  It read, "nothing is more times opened by mistake than the mouth".  In our family room he hung another plaque which read, "Shalom".  Go figure !  

  •  If you are able to put this out without (1+ / 0-)
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    The rant and negativity concerning Mormons, it could go viral.

    Easily republished to many Facebook pages, but not with some of what is above the squiggle.

    Thanks for the bottom part of the squiggle--I did cut and paste that to put put there for my less enlightened "friends"

    Peace, Hope, Faith, Love

    by mapamp on Sun Aug 12, 2012 at 06:09:36 AM PDT

    •  re "The Rant" (0+ / 0-)

      Perhaps by US rules that opening qualifies as a "rant". By my British standards, where debate and discussion seems to be more robust and, may I suggest, more honest that is a mild criticism of a ridiculous faith which is simply an 1820s equivalent of Scientology. A belief system so patently ridiculous, cultish and fake that it beggars belief as to why the hell anyone in their right mind could say they believe in it, let alone tout its adherence as some form of virtue and reason to trust them.

      Sorry if that seems harsh, but I'm the sort of bloke who, if you say you can fly and that you believe it with all your heart, drags you to the edge of a roof and tells you to jump off and show me.

      If you think I should be nice about Mormonism and its beliefs, I think you first have to explain why I should pay any form of respect to Mormonism given the ridiculous nonsense it teaches as faith.

      Stop playing nice with Mormons....they are a stupid cult on the same level of ridiculousness as Scientology. And a hundred and fifty years of tradition and practice doesn't mean they are any less ridiculous.

  •  You anger fairy is articulate. (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Not there on wars, torture and some others. (0+ / 0-)

    Several of these sound good, but it matters if there are specific condemnations of these sorts of violations of human rights when they actually occur.

    For example, war is bad, and torture is bad.  I think I would worry if someone couldn't agree to those generalized sentiments.  But what matters is the specific.  Which wars are invalid, and what constitutes torture.

    As far as I know, the church is willing to excommunicate people over abortion, and not willing to excommunicate over war or torture.

    I wouldn't exactly call the Catholic Church worthy of moralizing to other people.  They can't even get the basics right about who is worth excommunicating and who is worth defending.

  •  Well done (0+ / 0-)

    Thank you for the well researched diary.  

    Many right wing catholics will falsely try to claim that the above teachings do not have the same force as the churches positions on issues like abortion or gay marriage.  This simply isn't true.  

    A distinction should be made here from "papal infallibility", which  in church doctrine only occurs when the pope speaks "ex caathedra" ("from the chair"), explicitily decaring a teaching as infallible.  This has rarely occurred.  

    What we are dealing with here are teachings of the ordinary magisterium, or the ordinary and universal magesterium.  If all of the bishops of the world agree, then it is universal.  Short of that, you don't have infallibility, and the teaching doesn't require "full assent of faith", but you still have an authoritative teaching of the bishops in communion with the pope which requires religious submission of mind and will.

    So I think you may be in error in invoking "infallibility" here, though some of these are at least very nearly universal teachings.  But there has also been no "infallibile" teaching for example that abortion should be illegal, or that life begins at conception, or against stem-cell research, or against the ordination of women priests, or against gay marriage.  All of these are potentially fallible teachings, which could change in time (and some of which have already changed over the course of history).  

    Conservative Catholics sometimes seem to have a habit of taking teachings of the ordinary magisterium with which they agree and claiming them to be infallibile, while at the same time ignoring equally authoritative teachings with which they disagree.  

    •  Thanks for the correction and point taken (0+ / 0-)

      I learn through correction and yours has made that muddy water of Magisterium a lot clearer.

      Its been a many a year and many a Marley since my days at a Salesian school ;-)

      cheers mate

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