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Public Policy Polling for Daily Kos & SEIU. 8/9-12. Registered voters. MoE ±3.1% (no trendlines):

Q: Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? "This is the worst Congress ever."

Agree: 60
Disagree: 22
Unsure: 18

What can I possibly say about this question? I suppose I could have joked that there must be some old-timers who remember the "Do-Nothing Congress" that Harry Truman castigated, but as it happens, the 65+ age bracket is actually most emphatic that this congress sucks the most of all! So who hates this congress least of all, then? That would be Republicans, who "only" rate it "worst ever" by a 51-30 margin. Democrats and independents, meanwhile, have nearly identical views about this congress: 64-18 for Dems and 65-14 with indies. I take that as a good sign, since I figure better GOP ratings mean that this congress is more closely associated with John Boehner than Harry Reid, and given how much people in general loathe Capitol Hill right now, that's a positive for Team Blue.
Q: If the candidates for President this fall were Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt Romney, who would you vote for?

Barack Obama: 47 (48)
Mitt Romney: 45 (46)
Undecided: 8 (7)

No change here, and that's in spite of the president's job approval dropping to 43-52 (from 44-50). There is a change to our polling, though, that I should announce: From now through election day, we'll be asking our generic congressional ballot and voter enthusiasm questions every week. As always, you can find links to all our polling data, including our archives of previous polls, on our weekly trends page.

Originally posted to Daily Kos Elections on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 11:25 AM PDT.

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  •  Well. . . (5+ / 0-)

    Some I've read regard it as good because it's accomplished nothing.

    The victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.

    by Pacifist on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 11:31:36 AM PDT

  •  The "worst congress ever" poll is on the nature of (3+ / 0-)
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    cocinero, MichaelNY, Larsstephens

    "dog bites man."

    Only surprise is the doofus 22% who approve. Tea, anyone?

    "A young man who wishes to remain a sound Atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. There are traps everywhere ". C. S. Lewis

    by TofG on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 11:32:41 AM PDT

    •  TDS did a bit last year (4+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Kinak, filby, MichaelNY, Larsstephens

      where they found the "one" person in America who still approves of Congress's performance.  Pretended to interview a guy who basically approved of everything... funny.

      Yet it is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set... -- Gandalf

      by dnta on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 11:37:02 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Where did the GOP VP pick come from? (4+ / 0-)
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    Kinak, JML9999, MichaelNY, Larsstephens

    "Fascism is attracting the dregs of humanity- people with a slovenly biography - sadists, mental freaks, traitors." - ILYA EHRENBURG

    by durrati on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 11:32:44 AM PDT

    •  Worse than that, the word is that (5+ / 0-)

      Ryan was the one that smacked down the "Grand Bargain" in 2011 -- not that it would have been a good piece of legislation. His explicit reason, though, was to obstruct the President and avoid helping him politically. Isn't that grand?

      I hope that twerp loses WI-1 this fall. It would serve him right.

      "Let's put the jam on the lower shelf so the little people can reach it." ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ - Ralph Yarborough

      by Zutroy on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 11:39:38 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  and this is the leadership Paul Ryan provides (2+ / 0-)
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    Kinak, JML9999

    "I'll press your flesh, you dimwitted sumbitch! " -Pappy O'Daniel

    by jakewaters on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 11:34:28 AM PDT

  •  How much of the disapproval is Left/Dems? (3+ / 0-)
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    Kinak, daninoah, Tiger in BlueDenver

    We see these "disapproval" numbers for President Obama all the time, and they look scary from the perspective of his reelection prospects.  But we also know from empirical experience that a substantial contingent of the Left "disapproves" of Obama's performance, on various fronts.  So when his disapproval is 43-52, but his probable vote is 47-45, that suggests that 4-5% of those disapproving of him will still vote for him.  Do these questions get asked?  Can we see a correlation?

    Yet it is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set... -- Gandalf

    by dnta on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 11:35:27 AM PDT

    •  Here ya go. (4+ / 0-)
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      David Nir, dnta, daninoah, MichaelNY

      Aggregating all the data since April, when they first started asking the Romney/Obama question every week, 5% of those who do not approve of the job Obama is doing say they will still vote for him, as you suspected.  

      Full set of numbers:

      Among those who approve, it's 95% Obama, 2% Romney, 3% Not Sure.

      Among those who disapprove, it's 5% Obama, 87% Romney, 8% Not Sure.

      Among those who aren't sure, it's 46% Obama, 17% Romney, and 37% Not Sure.

      •  You popped up there (4+ / 0-)

        Just like Marshall McLuhan in Annie Hall! So, that 5%, what are the demos on them?

        Political Director, Daily Kos

        by David Nir on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 12:11:38 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  It'd be an awfully small subsample (1+ / 0-)
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          MichaelNY

          probably too small for any statistical conclusions to be made.

          Male, 22, -4.75/-6.92, born and raised TN-05, now WI-02, remorseless supporter of Walker's recall. Pocan for Congress and Baldwin for Senate!

          by fearlessfred14 on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 01:11:57 PM PDT

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        •  Disapprove, but will vote for Obama (1+ / 0-)
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          MichaelNY

          N = 316, aggregated from April to August
          N is getting small here, beware... also starting to get a substantial number of invalid responses, people who accidentally said they disapprove when they really approve, for instance (I am guestimating ~20%)

          42% Democrats, 21% Republicans, 38% Independent
          23% Conservative, 58% Moderate, 19% Liberal
          33% 18-29, 30% 30-45, 22% 46-65, 15% 65+
          61% white, 17% Latino, 12% Black

          Not terribly liberal, actually...

      •  Great info, thanks (1+ / 0-)
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        MichaelNY

        I'm interested in the 8% of those who disapprove who are still Not Sure.  Those are the ones who would seem to be most fungible, other than the truly Undecided.  Presumably, they're unhappy with the state of the country, but haven't bought the Romney/Republican sales pitch.  

        If that group just splits evenly, that's an additional 2 percentage points (4% x 52%) choosing Obama.  In this election, that can be the difference between winning and losing... or the difference between winning and a landslide.

        Yet it is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set... -- Gandalf

        by dnta on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 12:24:39 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Disapprove, but Unsure (2+ / 0-)
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          dnta, MichaelNY

          of who to vote for:

          N=498, and please note this is an aggregate of respondents from April-August.  

          18% Democrats, 34% Republicans, 49% Independent
          43% Conservative, 45% Moderate, 11% Liberal
          25% 18-29, 24% 30-45, 34% 46-65, 16% 65+
          72% white, 10% Latino, 4% Black

          If these people ended up voting, it's not unreasonable to guess they'd go somewhere around 40-50% for Obama.

    •  Your empirical experience (1+ / 0-)
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      Inoljt

      of left-wing disapproval of Barack Obama is skewed by the circle in which you travel. All statistics from actual polling show that approval of the president is directly correlated to how left-wing a person is. Let's please bury the meme that there is a large percentage of liberal disapproval of President Obama. That's simply false.

      Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

      by MichaelNY on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 05:38:02 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Not sure if it's been discussed before (2+ / 0-)
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    Kinak, daninoah

    but it seems like the approval rating/favorability numbers with PPP are always worse than most polls. And yet the toplines arent really that different. I mean, 43-52, Rasmussen doesnt even have numbers like that.

  •  National poll seems to have picked up a blip for (1+ / 0-)
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    givemhellHarryR

    Romney on Sunday.  Obama led on 2 of the other 3 days and generally speaking PPP started weighting its polls towards the GOP since the beginning of June.  The major national polls which show a 5-6 point race are probably where this thing is at right now.

    Alternative rock with something to say: http://www.myspace.com/globalshakedown

    by khyber900 on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 11:36:05 AM PDT

  •  "14 reasons why this is the worst Congress ever" (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Kinak
  •  Hmmm. If it's the Republican intransigence (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Kinak, cybersaur

    of Congress that most folks were hatin' on so very much... why would the presidential matchup be so close?  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 11:37:37 AM PDT

  •  Romney +2 in Gallup today (1+ / 0-)
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    Tuffie

    Looks like people can't wait to have their Medicare voucherized.

  •  Democracy would be nice to have (0+ / 0-)

    I am so crest-fallen after going to vote today. The was a single binary choice for a single office: Chris Murphy or Susan Bysiewicz for Democratic Senate candidate. So the "Party" gives me a choice of two for Senator, and tells me who they have selected for congressman, state representative, state senator, and all other state and municipal offices.

    I think I might not show up in November if that is how it is. I would vote if Mitt Romney might win Connecticut, but I am not motivated to vote when the Democrats tell me what center-right candidates they have picked for me without my input versus a radical, insane republican.

    My Congressman, John Larson, is a member of the right-wing "New Democrats" and a co-sponsor of SOPA.

    This doesn't look anything like Democracy to me. This is taxation without representation. This is one-party rule because we only have one sane party, and that party decides exactly what they want to do to please their corporate overlords, and voters are not a real part of the picture at all.

    -- Ryvr
    END THIS WAR NOW

    by Ryvr on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 11:38:10 AM PDT

    •  If you are not willing to vote for Democrats (0+ / 0-)

      Vote for a small party or an independent or write in someone's name (though preferably not "Lizard People"), but don't just kvetch about the choices you have and threaten to choose not to exercise your right to vote. You have the right not to vote, too, but don't expect others to respect your voluntary abdication of rights you still have.

      Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

      by MichaelNY on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 05:46:17 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Tough To Cite All Their Misdeeds in 30 Second Ad (1+ / 0-)
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    MichaelNY

    Brinksmanship leading to a lower credit rating. Endless show votes repealing Obamacare. The Ryan budget and the votes in support of it. Filibuster abuse. Truman ran against the do-nothing Congress. Reagan ran against Tip O'Neill. Love to see Obama win but it would be depressing if we have another 2 years of divided government.

  •  Of course.... (2+ / 0-)
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    You could live in Ohio district 2 which is now so gerrymandered for the republicans that a poodle could get elected if it had an "R" beside it's name on the ballot.
    Doesn't matter haow badly they poll, I'll still be stuck with some teabagger as a representative for the foreseeable future.

    Just another day in Oceania.

    by drshatterhand on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 11:45:47 AM PDT

  •  I've also seen polls like this that suggested... (1+ / 0-)
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    Tiger in BlueDenver

    ...that massive numbers of voters think Congress sucks, which it does, but have no plans to vote out their own idiot.

    Which suggests to me: more of same ahead.

    Ich bin ein Wisconsiner!

    by Apphouse50 on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 11:46:09 AM PDT

  •  I don't like the texture of this poll. (1+ / 0-)
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    givemhellHarryR

    This is a polling company that, frankly, leans to the left.

    This is probably still a nail-biter. My fear is that the money that is about to pour into this election will be just enough to push the Republicans over the top.

    I hope the fear from the right in the Politico article today is true. GOP operatives are saying the Ryan choice might not be a good thing at all.

    God, I hope they are right.

  •  This race isn't over (4+ / 0-)

    I hear a lot near gloating here, and I'm tempted to join in. BUT 43% approval sucks. And Gallup has shown a small bump for Romney today. He now leads by 2, his first lead in weeks. This race isn't over by a long shot.

  •  Ever wonder why (0+ / 0-)
       Q: Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? "This is the worst Congress ever."

        Agree: 60
        Disagree: 22
        Unsure: 18

    It's always right around that some 20%, even under the bus especially the second term, that think everything is just honky dory and then the teabags came out when they left and them years are being erased from the memory bank!

    Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

    by jimstaro on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 11:49:06 AM PDT

  •  NEW ActBLUE Partner: (0+ / 0-)

    This is GOOD NEWS.

    Share it.

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    by greenbird on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 11:53:22 AM PDT

  •  This will prompt Dick Morris to write another (0+ / 0-)

    ridiculously long titled book about this Congress.

  •  Romney Is Supposed To Get A Balance After (0+ / 0-)

    his VP pick.  If he only got a 2 pt balance after the weekend than Romney has a big problem.  

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 12:01:08 PM PDT

    •  It is a "bounce" not a "balance" (1+ / 0-)
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      EcosseNJ

      you've used the wrong term twice in this thread FYI.

    •  yep it's the 'bump' (1+ / 0-)
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      lina

      Intrade is interesting today, yeah I know it's not the best gauge, however just to get at least some 'real ime' sense of the mood and enthusiasm I checked it on Friday once every so often after Ryan was announced and it moved virtually zero all day, actually upping for Obama at one point; but mainly R 38.2% and Ob 59.8%..

      Yet today almost four days later and as we know more and more it has upped ever so slightly to Romney at 42.5%, Obama down to 56.4%...

      yep guess we're doing the VP bounce... miaow rip...

      "Never trust a man who, when left alone with a tea cosy, doesn't try it on!!"

      by EcosseNJ on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 12:12:25 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  The 34th Congress was pretty bad. Brooks beat (1+ / 0-)
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    David Nir

    Sumner into unconsciousness.

    Acceleration is a thrill, but velocity gets you there

    by CarolinNJ on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 12:04:20 PM PDT

  •  Worst ever? (1+ / 0-)
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    Samara Morgan Dem

    One must take into account, however, that most people have absolutely no idea what has happened in congress since the birth of our nation. When people say it's the worst ever, they mean it's the worst that they remember.

    Do you know how good or bad the 43rd Congress was? Or the 26th Congress?

    Right. Neither do I. Neither does ANYONE who isn't a professional historian.

    In other words, is this the lamest survey EVER? Probably.

    •  Also, who do they blame for the worst congress (0+ / 0-)

      ever?  If they are blaming the wrong people then this poll could be bad news for us.

      •  I'm dreading Labor Day weekend (0+ / 0-)

        R-R will be up by five; odd in a race that Romney has 'ceded' and might actually be 'throwing.'

        I'm so freaking disgusted with (half) this country.  

        Yeah it doesn't take much but come on. This poll sucks out loud and so does Gallup.  Last week those nice Obama leads were encouraging but that was then.

        •  The same happened when Romney got the 'job' (0+ / 0-)

          back in May-June with the trackers as the supporters of the other sordid lot bit the bullet and held their noses and gathered around him, Gallup and Ras went red for a wee while back then and as I said these are trackers, not swing state numbers which still favour Obama nor are they the CNN/Pew/Reuters style national polls which do not give Romney a lead currently;

          CNN/Opinion Research    52    45    Obama +7
          IBD/CSM/TIPP    46    39    Obama +7
          FOX News    49    40    Obama +9
          Reuters/Ipsos    49    42    Obama +7
          Democracy Corps 50    46    Obama +4
          Pew Research    51    41    Obama +10
          NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl    49    43    Obama +6
          FOX News    45    41    Obama +4

          Romney was always gonna get a slight uptick with the VP choice, but 2pts is a bit crap... and sure it may or may not happen again with their Tampa gig as it did for McCain in St Paul last time but if so most likely cancelled out by the Dems in Charlotte soon after...

          "Never trust a man who, when left alone with a tea cosy, doesn't try it on!!"

          by EcosseNJ on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 12:45:31 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  tuffie (0+ / 0-)

          seems to be a concern troll.  Now suddenly the world is crashing in because of a predictable bounce?  Come on.  You got to do better than that.  

    •  62% of Americans were also for invading iraq (0+ / 0-)

      in Mar. 2003.  People are ready to get riled up about anything.  So I agree with you.

      However, I believe that Mann and Ornstein have made the case in their book that this is indeed the worst Congress ever, the most  polarized and the least productive.

      There are numbers one can look at to get a more accurate idea than the pollling.

      I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

      by Satya1 on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 12:25:53 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Worse than the Iraq War, Bush tax cuts congress? (0+ / 0-)

    What could be worse than the 2001-2003 Congress?

    Take the fight to them. Don't let them bring it to you. - Harry S Truman

    by jgoodfri on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 12:22:31 PM PDT

  •  I think it was at Firstread (1+ / 0-)
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    MichaelNY

    that I saw an article suggesting that the unpopularity of the R House will drag down Romney more than his doing so downballot. This may be the year that "Congress stinks ... but my guy's okay" won't happen. At Redstate, they're looking dimly at (their definition of) RINO's.

  •  We need to use the words... (1+ / 0-)
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    MichaelNY

    ... "CONGRESSMAN Ryan" as often as possible - to remind people where Eddie Munster comes from. People hate this Congress, so we need to hang that around Congressman Ryan's neck at every opportunity.

    "Do not believe in any thought that dehumanizes you." - James H. Cone

    by Word Alchemy on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 01:30:11 PM PDT

  •  This poll better (0+ / 0-)

    be wrong, or the President is in deep trouble. The question asked about who do you think can get more done is very troubling, along with Job approval. Not good!

    •  I'm a liberal, (1+ / 0-)
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      MichaelNY

      and even I think Romney would be able to get more done, as he'd likely have a Republican congress if he wins. That doesn't mean I support him or think what he wants to do isn't scary and dangerous.

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