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It's just that simple.

This Ad - IS A LIE.

As Documented by Talking Points Memo.

Obama’s cuts add eight years on the life of Medicare, according to the Congressional Budget Office, largely by reducing reimbursement rates to hospitals, prescription drugs under Medicaid and private insurance plans in Medicare Advantage. The AARP, as well as hospital and drug industries, endorsed the Affordable Care Act despite the cuts.

The cuts to Medicare Advantage plans have resulted in higher enrollment and lower average premiums in 2011 and 2012, according to official figures. Reforms closing the “doughnut hole,” which were partly funded by the cuts, have also saved seniors money on prescription drugs.

In addition, the Affordable Care Act’s Medicaid expansion offers seniors greater access to long-term care and other services that Medicare does not provide.

The Department of Health and Human Services projects that beneficiaries of traditional Medicare will save roughly $4,200 over 10 years as a result of the Affordable Care Act. HHS expects that the law will also save seniors between $3,000 and $16,000 on average on prescription drugs, depending on their costs.

You hear that John Sununu? I wonder what should be stamped on your forehead now?

It's getting bad, and it's only been three days.  Even on the Safe & Sacred Ground of Fox News Paul Ryan can't manage to separate his budget ideas (which include same "Cuts" as Obama's Affordable Care Act), from Mitt Romney's ideas that no one has really heard or seen in detail yet.

Not even Brit Hume Is buying it.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Ryan repeatedly tried to deflect attention from his own highly controversial budget proposal in an interview with Fox News’s Brit Hume Tuesday. Ryan’s plan is both a rallying point for conservatives and a whipping boy for Democratic strategists.

Hume didn’t buy the suggestion that the Romney-Ryan ticket wasn’t running on Ryan’s budget plan, and the interview focused largely on Ryan’s budget package.

And worse, Ryan can't tell you When Mitt's Budget would Balance - if it even does.
Hume: The budget plan you’re now supporting would get to balance when?

Ryan: Well, there are different — the budget plan that Mitt Romney is supporting gets us down to 20 percent of GDP government spending by 2016. That means get the size of government back to where it historically has been. (Ed Decode: Repeal the New Deal) What President Obama has done is he brought the size of government to as high as it hasn’t been since World War II. We want to reduce the size of government to have more economic [Ed: You mean "Corporate"] freedom.

Hume: I get that. What about balance?

Ryan: I don’t know exactly what the balance is. I don’t want to get wonky on you but we haven’t run the numbers on that specific plan. The plan we offer in the House balances the budget. I’d put a contrast. President Obama, never once, ever, has offered a plan to ever balance the budget. The United States Senate, they haven’t even balanced, they haven’t passed a budget in three years.

Hume: I understand that. But your own budget, that you —

Ryan: You are talking about the House budget?

Hume: I’m talking about the House budget. Your budget will be a political issue in this campaign.

Ryan: The House budget doesn’t balance until the 2030s under the current measurement of the CBO baseline.

Y'know how you could Balance the Budget far more rapidly than sometime in the 2030's?

You could implement the People's Budget as put forth by the House Progressive Caucus, which would come into Balance by 2021 without cutting vital services for the people.

Here's what the Economic Policy Institute says:

The Economic Policy Institute has analyzed and scored the specific policy proposals in the People’s Budget and modeled their cumulative impact on the federal budget over the next decade.  Our analysis finds that the People’s Budget would balance the federal budget within a decade and place debt held by the public on a sustainable trajectory. Specifically, the budget would move to a surplus of $30.7 billion (0.1% of gross domestic product) in 2021, and debt as a share of the economy would trend downward to 64.1% of GDP in that year. The budget would reduce deficits by $5.6 trillion over the next decade relative to the CBO baseline (adjusted for current policies regarding the “doc fix” and a patch to the Alternative Minimum Tax).
It would also:
o    Reduces unemployment—and thus the deficit—through extensive investment in infrastructure, clean energy, transportation and education;

o    Ends almost all the Bush tax cuts, creates new tax brackets for millionaires and new fees on Wall Street;

o   Full American military withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan, along with other reductions in military spending;

o    Ends subsidies for non-renewable energy;

o    Lowers health care costs through a public option and negotiating Rx payments with pharmaceutical companies;

o    Raises the taxable maximum on Social Security.

With as much talk that the Ryan Plan is getting for being "Serious" - this plan should be talked about far more since It comes to balance 10 years more quickly.

Everywhere Ryan goes, he should be asked - "Why does your plan take so much longer to reach Balance than the Progressive Caucus Plan? Why do the middle-class and poor have to pay to make Rich people Richer?"  Since when is that the American Way?  Screw your neighbors, screw your customers, screw your clients, screw your employees - Chuck You Farley - I got mine, you go out and get your own?"

Not exactly a vision of "One Nation, Indivisible" is it?

All is this just One Reason why Romney/Ryan need to be CRUSHED in November, the Republican Congress must be swept aside like a mattress filled with bed bugs, Democratic Control of the Senate expanded to better limit GOP Obstructionism. They've been Sabotaging the Country for the last 3 1/2 years just to undermine Obama and solidify their own power, it's time to put an end to it.

Vyan

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  •  Uhm, It's Been 2 Years Not 3 Days. Repubs (6+ / 0-)

    established these facts with seniors 2 years ago making them the only demographic that increased its turnout from 2008, giving us our historic defeat.

    Although Obama's team and backers have been aggressively pro-active on many kinds of attacks, this is now the 2nd election in a row where they've failed to get the jump on the Republican frame of health care.

    By all projections I've seen, seniors will repeat their 2010 performance and vote as a majority to slash medicare and social security while believing they're doing the opposite.

    I hope the Democrats get onto this issue in time to swing some block of voters.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 04:53:37 PM PDT

    •  How would you inform these mostly conservative (2+ / 0-)
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      elwior, MKSinSA

      seniors? I don't disagree with you, except to say I believe a majority of seniors are conservative.

      "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room." - President Merkin Muffley

      by Farkletoo on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 05:33:31 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  A majority of Seniors DEPEND on Medicare (4+ / 0-)
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        Farkletoo, Vyan, HoundDog, notrouble

        and they don't want anyone fucking with it.
           Almost all of them are already seeing the benefits associated with closing the doughnut hole!

        "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

        by elwior on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 05:36:50 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  I'm a senior (2+ / 0-)
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        elwior, Farkletoo

        And I wouldn't fall for it nor will other seniors that I know but there are those that will and we need to  make sure they get the message fast and hard.

        Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011)

        by Rosalie907 on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 06:14:36 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  But you are not a conservative, right? (1+ / 0-)
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          MKSinSA

          "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room." - President Merkin Muffley

          by Farkletoo on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 06:48:58 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Right (1+ / 0-)
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            Farkletoo

            But there are "fringe" seniors who may believe it and there is only so much we can do to try to sway them on this subject.  We need MSM ads from the Obama team to help.

            Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011)

            by Rosalie907 on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 09:10:04 PM PDT

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            •  i agree. but I would not call a fringe senior a (0+ / 0-)

              Conservative.  I am not saying we are not going to get some bump from this, we will.  

              But going back to Gooserock original statement

              Uhm, It's Been 2 Years Not 3 Days. Repubs (6+ / 0-)
              established these facts with seniors 2 years ago making them the only demographic that increased its turnout from 2008, giving us our historic defeat.

              Although Obama's team and backers have been aggressively pro-active on many kinds of attacks, this is now the 2nd election in a row where they've failed to get the jump on the Republican frame of health care.

              By all projections I've seen, seniors will repeat their 2010 performance and vote as a majority to slash medicare and social security while believing they're doing the opposite.

              I hope the Democrats get onto this issue in time to swing some block of voters.

              He did not feel Obama's team was pro active with this group, "Seniors" in getting out the word.

              I agree. But I think they resign themselves to the fact that a majority of Seniors are conservative. They will continue to vote conservative because that is what they know, follow, listen to.  

              So how do we get to them?

              "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room." - President Merkin Muffley

              by Farkletoo on Wed Aug 15, 2012 at 05:37:04 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

  •  Simple question: Name ONE benefit that has been (11+ / 0-)

    cut.  That shuts them up.  Then you frame it as taking money away from the insurance companies and putting it in YOUR pocket.

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 04:53:59 PM PDT

  •  But who's there to ask that question... (2+ / 0-)
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    elwior, Farkletoo

    Not the media!

    Arrogance is ignorance matured.

    by jennyp on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 05:05:19 PM PDT

  •  Cutting payments to insurance companies, (4+ / 0-)

    cutting over-payments, waste, duplication and cosmetic services is not the same thing as cutting benefits.

        The goal of the Obama plan was to improve the system by lowering costs and providing additional benefits to Seniors, as well as to increase the viability of the system without adding costs for Seniors (and in some instances actually reducing costs), and without having any negative impact on the quality of care.

       Ryan's budget accomplishes the opposite in destroying the viability of the system while giving private insurance companies more profit as they provide Seniors with an ever-decreasing level of care.

    "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

    by elwior on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 05:11:05 PM PDT

  •  Excellent! (4+ / 0-)
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    elwior, MBishop1, notrouble, MKSinSA

    Important that we emphasize that not only does Obamacare/ACA trim Medicare costs by some $700 billion without trimming benefits, the ACA improves Medicare benefits, saving beneficiaries money.

    Ryan's plan includes the ACA cost cutting and cuts benefits, costing beneficiaries money.

    Love that you included The Peoples Budget, which should become a talking point for every leftie.

    You might want to clean up this sentence:

    Everywhere Ryan goes, he should be asked - "Why's it you some much longer

    The sh*t those people [republicans] say just makes me weep for humanity! - Woody Harrelson

    by SoCalSal on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 05:11:21 PM PDT

  •  This deserves the rec list, (2+ / 0-)
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    elwior, blueoregon

    and deserves to replace some of the FP posts, too.

    The sh*t those people [republicans] say just makes me weep for humanity! - Woody Harrelson

    by SoCalSal on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 05:13:42 PM PDT

  •  Obama better respond (4+ / 0-)
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    elwior, puakev, notrouble, dagnome

    a lot of voters are  pretty dumb and believe what they see on TV. Obama better call Romney a big liar in the debates.

  •  They'll never stop. It's all they have. lies. (4+ / 0-)
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    elwior, puakev, notrouble, dagnome

    Thanks for the diary.

    "The United States was founded by the brightest people in the country-and we haven't seen them since." - Gore Vidal

    by blueoregon on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 05:23:45 PM PDT

  •  Exactly - be sure & catch BIG Ed tonight... (5+ / 0-)
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    elwior, puakev, Rosalie907, notrouble, KenBee

    he runs a clip of Brit Hume's interview with Ryan wherein Ryan keeps humping the BIG MEDICARE LIE and Hume keeps on punching him onto the ropes. Ryan looks absolutely panic-stricken.

    It's a pretty  good interview from the looks of it. Won't it be historic if FOX turns out to be the outlet who breaks the biggest LIE of this campaign wide open?

    "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

    by Sybil Liberty on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 05:24:56 PM PDT

  •  For those who like Medicare and wonder (5+ / 0-)
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    puakev, Rosalie907, rlharry, notrouble, KenBee

    about who stands where about keeping it as is, just ask these questions:
       Which Party proposed Medicare and pushed hard to get it passed?
        Which Party vehemently opposed the passage of Medicare?

        Which Party has been trying to weaken or eliminate it ever since?
         (Hint: Think back to 1995 when the GOP shut the Federal Government down for this very purpose.)
        Which Party has defended Medicare at every turn, including calling the Republicans' bluff on the afore-mentioned government shutdown?

       And finally, which party gave Seniors the costly "doughnut hole" with the prescription drug plan, and which Party has taken it away?
         

    "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

    by elwior on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 05:26:19 PM PDT

    •  Republicans only pretend they want to (2+ / 0-)
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      "protect" Medicare, like foxes looking for employment guarding the henhouse.

         Democrats actually have, and always will protect Medicare.

          In fact, given the opportunity, they will act to expand and improve the system.
         Given the chance the GOP will screw you out of it!

      "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

      by elwior on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 05:30:23 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Thanks for mentioning the People's Budget (3+ / 0-)
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    gulfgal98, elwior, KenBee

    which has been ignored completely even though it's been praised by such pinko commies as The Economist and Forbes.

    I still dream of President Obama taking it up as his answer to the Ryan budget, and given that the People's Budget wouldn't cut Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security benefits while strengthening their solvency and closing the debt and deficit far faster than the Ryan plan or any other deficit reduction plan I've seen out there, I'd think it would not only be credible but popular.

    Alas, only a dream.

    "Better the occasional faults of a Government that lives in the spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a Government frozen in the ice of its own indifference." - Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by puakev on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 05:51:59 PM PDT

  •  Well the Obama team and the DNC (2+ / 0-)
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    elwior, notrouble

    Better start shouting about this loud and clear or the R & R message will stick with people.  Additionally personhood & contraception, etc., etc.  We need this message to get through to voters before their message sticks because then it will be too late.

    Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011)

    by Rosalie907 on Tue Aug 14, 2012 at 06:12:21 PM PDT

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