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Scott Brown has some harsh words for Rep. Todd "forcible rape" Akin.
"As a husband and father of two young women, I found Todd Akin's comments about women and rape outrageous, inappropriate and wrong. There is no place in our public discourse for this type of offensive thinking.  Not only should he apologize, but I believe Rep. Akin's statement was so far out of bounds that he should resign the nomination for U.S. Senate in Missouri."
Which is getting him just the reaction he needs to appeal to the voting population of Massachusetts, including a condemnation from the Family Research Council's Tony Perkins, who said of Brown, "He should be careful because based on some of his statements there may be some call for him to get out of his race." Just the ticket for Brown to continue to pretend he's not really a Republican.

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Here's the thing though: the very same views on rape, abortion, and women are on the top of the national Republican ticket. There's no daylight between Todd Akin's and Paul Ryan's position on forcible rape.

Ryan cosponsored HR 3, the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion" bill that attempted to redefine rape. If it's "outrageous, inappropriate and wrong" to parse what rape really is, then it should be at least as bad to actually try to legislate it. Which is precisely what Paul Ryan, and the rest of the Republicans, tried to do.

So when is Scott Brown going to demand that Paul Ryan step down from nomination for vice president?

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Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 12:00 PM PDT.

Also republished by Pro Choice, Rape and Domestic Violence, Massachusetts Kosmopolitans, Abortion, and Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (26+ / 0-)

    "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

    by Joan McCarter on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 12:00:13 PM PDT

  •  He'd better be careful (3+ / 0-)
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    drmah, basket, sethtriggs

    or else Rove and the Koch's will continue sending him money because they know he's lying.

    Mitt/Twit - 2012 - Don't Tax Me, Bro!

    by kitebro on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 12:03:00 PM PDT

  •  brown misheard the question. he thought (2+ / 0-)
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    annieli, sethtriggs

    that sex was For Sybil, and he was all for it, too.

    I really like the idea of tying brown, ryan, and others to akin.

    What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

    by agnostic on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 12:05:34 PM PDT

  •  It's hard to say (1+ / 0-)
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    agnostic

    Being that people like Brown and the GOP are into raping Americans the way they are.

    I would imagine that their definition wouldn't exactly be beacons of light in what a straight forward answer is.

  •  Scott stands ready for his next secret meetings... (6+ / 0-)

    ...with kings and queens and prime ministers, and yes, even with vice-presidential candidates condiments like Paul Ryan to discuss these complicated matters.

    Cheers.

  •  Focus On Family Just Told Brown to Zip It. (7+ / 0-)

    Reported on Ed Schultz.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 12:11:13 PM PDT

  •  PPP says they have Brown ahead again (5+ / 0-)

    I am starting to think that Massachusetts voters really don't like voting for female candidates. I can't understand any other reason why they aren't turning towards Warren in droves - or at least by the same margin they're turning towards Obama - and the only thing I can chalk it up to is that Brown seems like a guy at the bar and Elizabeth Warren seems like a scolding school marm.

    Scott Brown makes no sense in Massachusetts. And yet he's winning.

    •  Yep. (4+ / 0-)

      It's VERY discouraging. Mass is supposed to be bluer than any Sherman Williams blue. And yet, when Warren speaks the democratic/progressive gospel right now, well, they just aren't sure.

      But then again, Mass made Romney their governor, even if they lived to regret it. Every state has idiots and idiotic moments.  

      I know, I live in the state that gave y'all Michelle Bachmann.

      "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

      by StellaRay on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 07:23:40 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Yeah (2+ / 0-)
      So when is Scott Brown going to demand that Paul Ryan step down from nomination for vice president?
      When he's down 10 pts to Warren...who knows what shit he'll say if that were to occur. Unlikely though.

      Welcome to the headquarters of pulling facts out of my hindquarters

      by Mike E on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 07:26:55 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  can you provide a link to that poll result? n/t (0+ / 0-)
    •  Sadly, "liberal" Massachusetts doesn't do very (2+ / 0-)

      well at electing women to statewide office.  We have never elected a woman governor, a woman senator, and very few in total:

      Five women in Massachusetts’s history — including Ms. Coakley, the attorney general — have been elected to statewide constitutional office, and four have been elected to the House of Representatives.

      Currently, the only women to hold high elective office are Ms. Coakley, Representative Niki Tsongas and the State Senate president, Therese Murray①.

      ① Murray is only the 16th woman in the MA State Senate in over 220 years, and the first ever woman Senate President. (My note)

      Source (NY Times)

      It is sad that my home state (well for the last 34 years, or ⅔ of my life) has this aversion to woman in high office.  I first got a little suspicious when I moved here in 1978 and they were having a hard time getting enough signatures to pass the ERA (Mass finally did it).  It shocks me because it is not just men, I know many women who will not vote for other women.  If it were not for this aversion, Romney may not even have been Governor!  (Shannon O'Brien was pretty good and we were ready to get rid of Republican Governors after 12 years, but IMHO if Shannon O'Brien had been Seamus O'Brien Romney would have not won in 2002.)

      Niki Tsongas (my Congresswoman) had a pretty tough time getting elected 4 years ago, even though she was running against a disgraceful Republican candidate AND she carries Paul Tsongas' legacy (two years ago it was expected to be tough on re-election, but it was pretty easy).

      Somehow people in MA are OK with women's rights (and I do believe that they are going to punish Brown), but higher office gives them pause (and allow an exception).

      I sure hope we end this BS by electing our first woman to the US Senate this November, not because she is a woman but because she is definitely the better candidate.  But it is going to take a lot of work.

      Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

      by DefendOurConstitution on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 07:51:47 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I partly get it (2+ / 0-)

        Mass has a strong blue collar macho culture. I've got exactly those kind of relatives living in the Leominster area and they tend to be obnoxiously right wing.

        But I'm confused why the state stays so blue - and it is most definitely in the bag for Obama - if these voters have as much clout as it seems they do in this Brown/Warren race.

        •  Hoping for a big turnout (0+ / 0-)

          With the President on the ticket this time around, unlike the year Brown was elected, Elizabeth Warren has a good chance of beating him. As much as Scott Brown is trying to run away from the GOP, the level of disgust with them is pretty high here. Actually the last ad Brown ran, with a damn pickup truck, of course, actually seems to be having a negative effect!

  •  the Inquisitionists are crawling out woodwork (2+ / 0-)
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    to defend todd akin

    http://www.rawstory.com/...

    “What Todd Akin is talking about is when you’ve got a real, genuine rape. A case of forcible rape, a case of assault, where a woman has been violated against her will through the use of physical force where it is physically traumatic for her,” Fischer said on his radio program.

    “Under those circumstances, the woman’s body — because of the trauma that has been inflicted on her — it may interfere with the normal function processes of her body that lead to conception and pregnancy.”

    Stop Prohibition, Start Harm Reduction

    by gnostradamus on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 07:20:26 PM PDT

  •  You can... (0+ / 0-)

    ..tell Limbaugh is on vacation this week.

    Tony Perkins is filling the void by assigning himself the ad hoc wingnut shot-caller.

    This is truly a party of clowns.

    Rob not the poor, because he is poor: neither oppress the afflicted in the gate. ~ Proverbs 22:22

    by wyvern on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 07:23:42 PM PDT

  •  Ryan should step up (4+ / 0-)

    For once in his life he should stop brown-nosing and say what he really thinks: in his mind, rape provides no excuse for abortion.

    One of my friends from high school explained this perspective to me a few years back - if god didn't want the child to be born, the rape wouldn't have happened in the first place.  Period.

    The lord works in mysterious ways, you see.  Sometimes rape is His will.

    (This is a woman, mind you - a successful business woman and organizer for the GOP where she lives.  She's also exhibit A in my mind how faith in bogus deities, and built solidarity with other idiots of shared faith, can lead people to utter derangement.)

    If someone could provoke Ryan to say what he really thinks, it would make people forget all about the Macaca moment...

    Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore

    by Minerva on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 07:26:57 PM PDT

  •  Power of Language - Modifiers for Rape (0+ / 0-)

    There is no need for modifiers of degree as it pertains to Rape.  Rape is by definition, forcible, violent, without consent, violative, and legitimate (in the sense that the act happened).

    This crap is Luntzian nonsense, yet again.  That guy is the enemy!  

    When fascism came to America, it was wrapped in a flag and carrying a bible.

    by BigBuck on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 07:32:22 PM PDT

  •  Short version (0+ / 0-)

    Brown hoping that Akin is the one who gets blamed when the GOP fails to capture the Senate. He's protecting his own hide, like the narcissist he is. Can't wait to see Akin and Brown lose handily in November.

  •  A follow-up question, Senator Brown: (2+ / 0-)
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    I believe Rep. Akin's statement was so far out of bounds that he should resign the nomination for U.S. Senate in Missouri.
    If Rep. Akin's statement is so far out of bounds that it makes him ineligible to be a member of the United States Senate, do you not also believe he should resign as a member of the United States House of Representatives?

    And are not all Congresspersons who agree with him also out of bounds?

    adm

    honi soit qui mal y pense

    by admadm on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 07:38:19 PM PDT

  •  Unfortunately (0+ / 0-)

    today PPP tweeted that Brown is ahead in their latest poll, to be released tomorrow.

    PublicPolicyPolling‏@ppppolls

    Scott Brown leads in our new Massachusetts poll...first time since June 2011...that will be out tomorrow

    What has happened in Massachusetts, where Kennedy won in the 60 and 70 percent range?

  •  It's always entertaining (0+ / 0-)

    When the standard issue douchebag wing of the GOP takes on the extreme douchebag wing of the GOP so the public realizes that they're not equally douchebaggy. All that's missing is Phyllis Schlaffly weighing in.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 08:13:56 PM PDT

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