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Well, this should work. Since the entire country is busy throwing up in its collective mouth at Republican Party's pathological obsession with abortion, this seems like a perfect time for Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus to shift the conversation to something else. Like abortion:

The new obsession is the platform of the Republican Party on abortion, which is an obsession. What about the obsession about a guy who believes in partial-birth abortion. I mean, what about that obsession? Why aren't we talking about that very minority view of abortion in our country that this president holds dear to his heart. We're not talking about that.
Yes. Yes, the top spokesman for the Republican Party did just complain that everyone is obsessed with his party's obsession with abortion—for no reason at all whatsoever that he can understand. And he doesn't like it at all.

So let's help him out with something else he won't like: facts.

The current Congress has introduced 67 abortion bills. Fifty-four of them were introduced by Republicans. A sampling:

And we're not even talking about the 900 bills introduced at the state level last year.  

If those bills seem ridiculous, not to mention redundant, that's because they are. None of them are based on facts of any kinds. There is no such thing as taxpayer-funded abortion. There is no such thing as fetal pain. There is no such thing as on-campus abortion providers for elementary schools. There is no such thing as sex-selective abortion. And there is no reason to require a woman to undergo and view an ultrasound before undergoing an abortion.

All of these bills had, at best, a 2 percent chance of being enacted. All of them are a waste of time. And all of them were introduced and co-sponsored by Republicans, many of them by, that's right, vice presidential candidate Rep. Paul Ryan. Paul Ryan, who believes that a woman should have to carry a pregnancy to term even if it kills her.

Gosh, it sure is hard to understand why people think Republicans are obsessed with abortion, isn't it? Even though, this week, the party once again included in its platform support for a constitutional amendment banning all abortions.

And Priebus wants to know why we aren't talking about President Obama's "obsession" with abortion?

Well, maybe it's because President Obama hasn't asked for, supported, or signed any abortion bills—except, of course, for his executive order banning non-existent taxpayer-funded abortions.

Still, Priebus would like us to focus on President Obama's "obsession" with "partial birth abortion"—something you won't find in any medical textbooks because it doesn't exist.

It's not exactly breaking news that the president supports women's reproductive rights. He hasn't taken any action to enshrine or expand those rights, but Republicans are so desperate right now to divert national focus from their anti-woman extremism that they actually think reminding voters that the president supports reproductive rights is a winning argument for them. As if voters who currently support the president will be turned off when they find out that he has consistently supported reproductive rights, instead of just pretending to be offended by extremism when he thinks it suits him. As the Republicans have done this week, while trying to distance themselves from Todd Akin, whose positions on abortion represent the Republican Party, its platform, and its presidential ticket this year.

It won't work. It's transparently stupid. But then, that's today's Republican Party for you.

Originally posted to Kaili Joy Gray on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 08:51 AM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Reince Priebus (34+ / 0-)

    the perfect Republican chair.  Not only is his name something National Lampoon would pick for a spoiled rich frat boy, if you take out all the vowels in Reince Priebus, you get:
     RNC PR BS
    a perfect description

    We have no desire to offend you -- unless you are a twit!

    by ScrewySquirrel on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 08:55:13 AM PDT

  •  It's amazing how they continue to campaign (20+ / 0-)

    like it's the 1950's.

    Completely oblivious to Youtube video archives of them saying stupid stuff as well as Congressional Records online.

    The 1st Amendment gives you the right to say stupid things, the 1st Amendment doesn't guarantee a paycheck to say stupid things.

    by JML9999 on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 08:56:16 AM PDT

  •  Republicans react to reports Obama is pro-choice: (5+ / 0-)

    "A young man who wishes to remain a sound Atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. There are traps everywhere ". C. S. Lewis

    by TofG on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 08:58:46 AM PDT

  •  Do you believe a 12-year-old, raped by her father, (27+ / 0-)

    should have to carry her baby to term if it will kill her?

    Paul Ryan does.  Especially if she's poor.*

    *Has repeatedly fought to take away the choice options that currently exist for low-income women.

    •  Let the man speak for himself ;-) (11+ / 0-)

      The 1st Amendment gives you the right to say stupid things, the 1st Amendment doesn't guarantee a paycheck to say stupid things.

      by JML9999 on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:06:03 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Ryan is so not Muse-Worthy (1+ / 0-)
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        JML9999

        http://aynrandlexicon.com/...

        An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn).

        Abortion is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?

        When someone is impatient and says, "I haven't got all day," I always wonder, How can that be? How can you not have all day? George Carlin

        by msmacgyver on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 10:04:16 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  This isn't about that (14+ / 0-)

      The right wing is not "pro-life." It is pro forced birth.  Let's get that straight.  Let's all stop calling them "pro-life" and call them forced birthers, which is what they are.

      Rape shouldn't even be the issue here. Women should have the absolute right to determine whether or not to continue with an early term pregnancy, as under current constitutional law they do, no matter the origin of that pregnancy. Period. Full stop.

      These so-called personhood laws are designed to prevent just that, by calling a fertilized egg, blastocyst, a zygote or a 6 week old embryo with neither brain nor organs a "person." It is scientifically unsupportable, Biblically unsupportable and morally reprehensible. It is the product of twisted, insecure, misogynist religiously backward and scientifically ignorant minds. When confronted with the logically incomprehensible nature of their position these meddlesome fools carve out an exception for rape and incest, so as not to appear too crazy and unfeeling. Since the poor bunch of cells is "innocent" and unaware of anything, including its parentage, this exception makes no sense, and they know it. It's a red herring.

      If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. ~James Madison

      by mjshep on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:08:53 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  We need to shout that from the rooftops (6+ / 0-)

        I'm most alarmed that we seem to be talking about only when exceptions should be allowed under a wider ban instead of supporting reproductive freedom without government intrusion as a baseline.

        Rape shouldn't even be the issue here. Women should have the absolute right to determine whether or not to continue with an early term pregnancy, as under current constitutional law they do, no matter the origin of that pregnancy. Period. Full stop.

        48forEastAfrica - Donate to Oxfam "Compassion is the radicalism of our time." ~ Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama -7.88, -6.21

        by Siri on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:21:45 AM PDT

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      •  ANTI-CHOICE (2+ / 0-)
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        a2nite, hnichols

        because forcing people to have babies is JUST PART of why they are such goddamned scum.

        Choice is POWER and they don't want ANYBODY having it.

        ANTI-CHOICE.

        The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

        by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:29:01 AM PDT

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      •  Let's STOP debating on the rabid right wing's (7+ / 0-)

        distorted terms. We must NEVER apply the twisted label 'pro-life' to anyone who opposes choice. And especially not to anti-choice extremists. 'Pro-life' implies that those who support reproductive freedom for women (and families) are somehow 'anti-life.'

        There is no 'anti-life' position. If there is any 'anti-life' faction in America, it is these rabid extremists who don't give a shit about the life of a rape survivor, an incest victim, or a mother whose pregnancy endangers her own life.

        Ho'oponopono. To make things right; restore harmony; heal.

        by earicicle on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:33:43 AM PDT

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      •  Wish I could rec this 1,000 times. (3+ / 0-)

        Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

        by HappyinNM on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:34:01 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  FORCED BIRTH--that is correct (5+ / 0-)

        i have been trying to get that term to catch on for years now

        "Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
        CALL EVERYONE YOU KNOW in OH, PA, FL, NC and TX. Make sure they have the ID they need to vote, and make sure YOU are registered and ready to vote!

        by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:35:33 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  This is about sending women to prison in mass (2+ / 0-)
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        Adding abortion to the criminal statutes won't stop abortions, any more than it stops murder, rape, arson and other acts we all agree should be crimes.  But it will turn hundreds of thousands of women every year into criminals.  A large percentage of our already overburdened police and judicial forces will be diverted into catching this new class of "criminals", arresting them, trying them, and putting them into prisons.  The police and the courts will need to be expanded, new prisons will need to be built to house all these people.  Of course, abortions will still be performed, in back alleys, with coat hangers, and women may not even survive to be arrested and incarcerated.

        Is this the America they want?  Is this the America we want?

        "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

        by Navy Vet Terp on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:46:19 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  it's about their fear of losing (0+ / 0-)

        control over women.

        it's about their fear of losing control over minorities.

        it's about their fear of losing control over poor people.

        it's about their fear of losing control over sexuality.

        Fear of losing control.

        They truly are the party of white power.


        "A recent study reveals Americans' heads are larger than they were 150 years ago but sadly there is no indication that the extra room is used for anything." - entlord

        by AlyoshaKaramazov on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:49:01 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  The RNC would DEMAND she carry the baby to term. (9+ / 0-)

      However, they would then deny the child healthcare, basic nutrition, an education, etc. until the child turns 18 in which time they can draft him/her to fight their damn wars.  And if the soldier were wounded and needed assistance for life?  Screw them of their benefits and call them freeloaders.

      "What I find curious, is how the elected children of Republican politicians, from George W. Bush to Rand Paul to Ben Quayle and on, always happen to be crueler and dumber than their parents." With thanks to MinistryOfTruth.

      by Taxmancometh on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:31:15 AM PDT

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  •  To the tune of "Goldfinger"... (2+ / 0-)
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    JML9999, sunbro

    ... Reince Priebus, he's the man [insert lyrics here].

    You have really been on a roll with your posts--great work!

  •  OT...but am I the only one who misses Michael (12+ / 0-)

    Steele? At least Steele was entertaining when he was saying stupid things. This guy is just boring...when he says stupid things.

    Conservatives seem to believe that the rich will work harder if we give them more, and the poor will work harder if we give them less. E.J. Dionne

    by blueyescryinintherain on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:01:20 AM PDT

  •  The truth is as stupid as we think it is (3+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, madgranny, MeToo

    to talk abortion right now. the repubs think it delivers their base.

    if after three days of taking a pounding over abortion the fact that rinse is talking abortion tells me the repubs are worried.

    worried about mr. etcha  sketch or worried that their base is wimping out , I dont know. but something has them worried to bring this up right now.

    whatever happened to that reid tax story-...

    "It's never too late to be who you might have been." -George Eliot

    by live1 on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:02:58 AM PDT

  •  Obama is pro-choice (8+ / 0-)

    and pro-worker and pro-education and pro-gay.  He's a liberal.  And that makes me very happy.  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:03:40 AM PDT

    •  Naw... (4+ / 0-)

      he is a center right Democrat, who only appears to be a liberal when you stand him up next to Ryan, Akin and Palin.

      •  No and yes (1+ / 0-)
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        live1

        Governing as a center right Democrat, under these conditions, could never even occur without a passionate liberal core.  

        "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

        by lgmcp on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:13:47 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Well, (0+ / 0-)

          I woudn't take advice about who is a liberal from someone who quotes Edward Teller.

          •  No? (0+ / 0-)

            Consider making room for irony and nuance.  Personally I find it very poignant that someone who contributed so much to our collective peril, had such an insight about our collective failings.  

            "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

            by lgmcp on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:20:11 AM PDT

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            •  Well, as running a google on that (0+ / 0-)

              quote only brings up you on kos with that tagline, would you provide a citation so one can discern the context.

              •  Unfortunately I can't find it either (0+ / 0-)

                and may conceivably have misquoted slightly over time.  My original source was a museum storyboard at The Exploratorium, San Francisco's hands-on science museum.  I was working there at the time and used the quote in a lesson plan/museum walk about exponentials.

                "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

                by lgmcp on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:28:42 AM PDT

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                •  It is an unsoursed quote attributed to Teller (0+ / 0-)

                  and about Malthusian catastrophe, which is about population control.

                  I guess Teller did his part to keep the population down...so we don't have to worry about feeding the the dirty masses who didn't appreciate Teller, who claimed to be the only real victim of Three Mile Island.

                  •  Teller referred primarily to the deadly power (0+ / 0-)

                    of nuclear fission, as one might expect.  For me the quote also resonates strongly regarding the curves for resource depletion, toxin accumulation, and climate change.  Even overcoming mathematical ignorance, is insufficient without imaginative grasp.  As far as the "dirty masses", current thinking on population control is that female education and economic empowerment (such as through micro-finance cooperatives) is the number one determinant of family size.  

                    But I'm probably wasting my breath, talking earnestly about why that statement continues to strike me.  You simply want to be hostile because I dared to call Obama a liberal.

                    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

                    by lgmcp on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 10:02:08 AM PDT

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                    •  "Consider making room for irony and nuance." (0+ / 0-)

                      Projecting hostility because you "dared" to call Obama a liberal shows you have no idea what is my heart, pal.

                      I know I can't see into the heart of Obama, so I make decisions on the basis of his words and deeds, not on a article of faith where the evidence is far from complete.

                      •  Hostility may or may not be your intent (0+ / 0-)

                        but it is certainly what I perceive.   Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps what me as as an adversarial tone is merely joyful gusto in debate.

                        Regarding Obama, it is unnecessary to take it on faith that he is pro-choice, pro-worker, pro-education, and pro-gay, since it is well demonstrated.

                        "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

                        by lgmcp on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 11:23:23 AM PDT

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                        •  Well, you took an off hand remark (0+ / 0-)

                          and perceived hostility where there was absolutely none.

                          So, forgive me for questioning your ability to read the hearts and minds of people you know nothing about.

                          And frankly, seeing that the continuum has moved so far to the right, that I guess the word liberal is utterly meaningless when

                          one is holding a convention which will pour millions of dollars into a right-to-work state  is considered pro worker.

                          That lip service to education while No Child Left behind still teaches to the test is considered pro-education....

                          and allowing abortion rights to continue to be eroded in this country to the point there are states where abortion  is unavailable to any woman is considered prochoice.

                          http://www.guttmacher.org/...

                          Forget about the the fact that there was no investigation, forget about prosecution of the illegal abuses of Wall Street (compare with the Savings and Loan Scandal)

                          Forget that habeas corpus has been abandoned, it appears, for good.

                          Forget that stuff only happens when it has been polled the heck out of,  and there has been shown to be no  political downside...like lack of enforcement of children of immigrants being deported.....and getting rid of  Doma and don't ask, don't tell being not a political risk...

                          Forget that adopting the individual mandate was a cynical move to bring aboard all those Republican votes, while Obama's Senate mentor, Joe Lieberman killed the Public Option....

                          well, I guess....

                          my definition of a liberal might be a little more nuanced and a loss less ironic than yours.

                          Don't get me wrong, I support President Obama, and will work hard to get him elected, but not because I harbor any illusion he is a liberal...

                          or anything other than a classic DLC center right Democrat.  

      •  oh, horse-shit. (0+ / 0-)


        "A recent study reveals Americans' heads are larger than they were 150 years ago but sadly there is no indication that the extra room is used for anything." - entlord

        by AlyoshaKaramazov on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:49:58 AM PDT

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  •  Between taxpayer-funded abortion and voter fraud, (14+ / 0-)

    the GOP has spent most of its time introducing legislation to solve "problems" that don't exist.

    stay together / learn the flowers / go light - Gary Snyder

    by Mother Mags on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:05:08 AM PDT

  •  Hey Rs.....how about you MYOFB??? nt (0+ / 0-)
  •  Kaili, (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Greek Goddess, Navy Vet Terp

    I love how you cut through the crap!

    As of 02/22/2012 in Washington State pharmacists can exercise their "religious freedom" by denying women access to Plan B because the judge thinks there aren't any bigots in this state.

    by FlamingoGrrl on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:06:00 AM PDT

  •  In my head I pronounce it as (5+ / 0-)

    Whine-ce Priebus. Not because I'm picking on anyone who has trouble pronouncing Rs. Solely because every time I see him he's whining.

    He is the whiniest whiner in all of whinerdom.

    We view "The Handmaid's Tale" as cautionary. The GOP views it as an instruction book.

    by Vita Brevis on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:06:23 AM PDT

  •  My advice for Reince Priebus: Don't have one, pal. (5+ / 0-)

    From one guy to another:

    Reince, if you are SOOO opposed to abortion, do us all a big favor:  PROMISE that YOU will NEVER have one.

    Problem OVER.

    "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave." -- Patrick Henry

    by BornDuringWWII on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:09:27 AM PDT

  •  2012 is a Choice Election. (0+ / 0-)

    Notice: This Comment © 2012 ROGNM

    by ROGNM on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:12:17 AM PDT

  •  Foetal pain (1+ / 0-)
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    emidesu

    There is at least some evidence for foetal pain in the later stages of gestation, so it is not correct to say "there is no such thing as foetal pain".

    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/...

    What the evidence suggests is that foetal pain is unlikely before 29-30 weeks gestation.

    •  29-30 weeks is right around the time of (0+ / 0-)

      viability, which makes it illegal under Roe v Wade, unless carrying the child to term would harm the mother. If abortion was easily accessible, it would occur long before viability.

      Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

      by HappyinNM on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:44:14 AM PDT

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      •  Factors relevant to that harm (1+ / 0-)
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        emidesu

        as I understand it, are "physical, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman’s age", so Roe v Wade is still very liberal even in the third trimester.

        As it should be IMO.

        But there's no point in creating straw men for your own side.  Foetal pain should be a consideration IMO in 3rd trimester terminations.

        •  Women who have continued a pregnancy (0+ / 0-)

          that long want it to result in a child. The only reason to terminate a pregnancy that late is that it's continuation would result in harm to either the woman or her child. This is an aggravating argument. Please don't continue it.

          Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

          by HappyinNM on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 10:14:03 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  The science denial on the right (1+ / 0-)
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            Febble

            nauseates me. Distorting the evidence makes us no different from them.
            We have anesthesia for fetal pain, so the "fetal pain" legislation is just to play on people's emotions.

            The founding fathers knew of the mutually corrupting influences of Church and state, wisely sending them to opposite corners.

            by emidesu on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 10:49:14 AM PDT

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          •  What argument do you think I am making? (0+ / 0-)

            All I'm saying is that it is wrong to state that "there is no such thing as foetal pain".

            There probably is.  Errors don't cease to become errors just because they are made by your own side.  And bad arguments made in favour of a good case damage that case.

            Yes, women who have continued with a pregnancy into the third trimester (usually) want it to result in a child.  That's why it is right that the health factors for a third trimester termination should be so broad.  

            That doesn't alter the probability that a third trimester foetus may feel pain, which is a relevant factor in both deciding to terminate, and if termination is the decision, in the technique used.

    •  the law says you are justified (0+ / 0-)

      in killing a fully grown human being who threatens your life, regardless of how much pain it causes, so saving the life of the mother should justify abortion even if the fetus feels pain.

      Ryan and the forced birth cabal want NO EXCEPTIONS.

      "Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
      CALL EVERYONE YOU KNOW in OH, PA, FL, NC and TX. Make sure they have the ID they need to vote, and make sure YOU are registered and ready to vote!

      by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:44:25 AM PDT

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  •  Your list of bills sounds like it was in The Onion (3+ / 0-)
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    madgranny, earicicle, HappyinNM

    rather than in our own legislation.

    Keep up the good work, Mouse!

    Being a Humanist means trying to behave decently without expectation of rewards or punishment after you are dead. ~K. Vonnegut

    by Greek Goddess on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:12:47 AM PDT

  •  one word (0+ / 0-)

    PATHETIC!!!

  •  a test of "anti-choice" = southern strategy (1+ / 0-)
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    No one gets out alive

    The GOP, and Johnson, knew they had a great wedge issue with civil rights. It got their base to the polls.

    This is the test of anti-choice as a defining turnout wedge issue. I think they're going all in with this. I don't think they would have chosen it but now they think they can make this vote a religious obligation to enough numbers that their turnout is preposterous by percentage. If they're going to be a minority party do it with party discipline. They won't concede certain demographics in the future, big business will be trying to spin Hispanics from here out but that's not one of their plays in the last 9 weeks, this time around they're going to use choice and TV money to maximize base turnout and lies and TV money to depress the center.

    It's scary because I think it's a long shot for them, that our base will also come out and that no amount of above style spin can make Obama look unreasonable to anyone who hasn't made up their mind, but that if it works it's a real goal line stand on their part. Extremist minority parties gain strength by proving their strength to themselves and to leaners who just want the trains to run on time (Godwin factor: .4)

    My theory is everyone has made up their mind if they think about it, just everyone hasn't made up their mind whether they're going to vote, or rather, whether they're going to pay enough attention to care enough to vote.

    Now I'm cautiously optimistic that this could go really wrong for them, that it could turn off a lot of closeted leaners on their side. No one knows what actually goes on when the curtains closed in the voting booth. Then if our base turns out and the apathetic amongst our leaners turn out we could run the table on them.

    Let's make that happen.

    If you didn't like the news today, go out and make some of your own.

    by jgnyc on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:16:42 AM PDT

  •  Not to disagree with your larger point (3+ / 0-)
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    but stating categorically that there is no such thing sex-selective abortion is simply wrong. It is a common practice in such countries as India and China, where the pressure to produce male heirs is intense among some segments of those cultures. I would bet that the frequency of sex-selective abortion in this country is infinitesimally smaller, but to state that it doesn't exist at all is illogical given the numbers of U.S. citizens of Indian and Chinese descent, as well as the number of Americans of any ethnic background who are misogynistic to the extent of wanting only male children. Does the true incidence of sex-selective abortion in the U.S. justify legislation banning it here? Maybe not, but as the pro-choice father of a daughter whom I love more than anything else in this world, the very notion of sex-selective abortion is morally horrifying, regardless of where it occurs, or how often.

  •  Stupidest thing (1+ / 0-)
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    earicicle

    the GOP did was replace Steele with Priebus.  It is like replacing Einstein with Kirk Cameron.

    Priebus has been a delightful disaster.

    " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:20:57 AM PDT

  •  Sheesh. Next thing you know, they'll (6+ / 0-)

    be saying corporations are people  . . .  oh wait . . .

    Hey, didn't Bain commit numerous abortions on the personhoods of corporations?

  •  There are a couple of billboards around here (0+ / 0-)

    ...that say, "Obama supports gay marriage and abortion. Do you?" and underneath that, "Vote Republican."

    I immediately thought two things: First, everybody knows that about him already. If you care about either of those issues, you know where Obama stands.

    Second, people care a heck of a lot more about the economy than they do about these kinds of issues. This is 2012, not 2004.

    I don't mind them wasting their money on that, but if that's all they got about Obama, that just goes to show how good he is!

    Paul Ryan tried to kill Medicare. Joe Biden killed bin Laden.

    by ScottyUrb on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:24:27 AM PDT

    •  that's all they have left (0+ / 0-)

      so expect to hear it nonstop for the next two months

      "Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
      CALL EVERYONE YOU KNOW in OH, PA, FL, NC and TX. Make sure they have the ID they need to vote, and make sure YOU are registered and ready to vote!

      by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:46:39 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  uh oh... (2+ / 0-)
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    Preibus is having a bob dole moment, doing his own version of "WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE???!!"

    NOT a winning strategy.....far more like the whinings of a loser.

    Aldus Shrugged : The Antidote to Ayn Rand. @floydbluealdus1

    by Floyd Blue on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:25:26 AM PDT

    •  this has been going on for months now. (0+ / 0-)

      Let's hope they never catch on.


      "A recent study reveals Americans' heads are larger than they were 150 years ago but sadly there is no indication that the extra room is used for anything." - entlord

      by AlyoshaKaramazov on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:52:44 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I agree! I keep saying.... (0+ / 0-)

        ...i can almost see Romney at the debates, in the midst of a bad few moments, saying incredlously, almost apoplectic:

        "WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE??!??!!!  FOR GOD'S SAKE, HE'S BLACK!!! BLACK!!! CANT YOU PEOPLE SEE????? I'M ANGLO SAXON???  COME ON, PEOPLE!!!"

        Aldus Shrugged : The Antidote to Ayn Rand. @floydbluealdus1

        by Floyd Blue on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 10:01:15 AM PDT

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  •  Reince, you're an idiot. (0+ / 0-)

    For that we shall strip you of your vowels and henceforth refer to you only as RNC PR BS.

    "What I find curious, is how the elected children of Republican politicians, from George W. Bush to Rand Paul to Ben Quayle and on, always happen to be crueler and dumber than their parents." With thanks to MinistryOfTruth.

    by Taxmancometh on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:26:07 AM PDT

  •  Itd be nice if (2+ / 0-)
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    No one gets out alive, DSPS owl

    they actually fought for the rights of living people. So far they seem to be working very hard to ensure clumps of cells get rights, while actively attempting to stop living gay people from having those rights.

    In their world, we literally are worth less than a few cells.

    Now what's going on? Not only is this the wrong defendant, but he's brought his whole entourage along! Kids these days, think they can just do whatever they want. Oh well, moving on...

    by kamrom on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:26:29 AM PDT

    •  Gays, yes. But their attack on already living (1+ / 0-)
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      people goes much further than that. They want to cut food stamps, education and higher education funding, Medicaid, unemployment insurance, and lots of other programs that allow people to live. They are reprehensible.

      Your left is my right---Mort Sahl

      by HappyinNM on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:55:03 AM PDT

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    •  Clumps of cells and very large clumps (0+ / 0-)

      of people otherwise known as corporations.

      The founding fathers knew of the mutually corrupting influences of Church and state, wisely sending them to opposite corners.

      by emidesu on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 10:51:36 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Doc's RAVE Act (1+ / 0-)
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    No one gets out alive

    Republicans Are Vile Entities, HB ME262, declares that republicans have become vile, objectionable entities, unfit for interaction with human beings.

    After passage of this bill FEMA camps will be used to house all the Republicans that can be found, working off voter registration rolls.

    Implementation of repub quarantine is expected to save numerous human lives and reduce the number of violent acts in America.

    They hate our freedoms and clearly cannot handle theirs so it shall be taken from them to save lives.

    (this is just snark and not a real suggestion for Democratic party policy, though it would help us all immensely)

    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

    by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:27:12 AM PDT

  •  In case anyone doubted that Iraq is District 12, (0+ / 0-)

    … and we in the U.S. are the Capitol . . . this article from the Washington Panem Post ought to clear those doubts up in a jiffy.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

    The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war.

    by lotlizard on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:32:04 AM PDT

  •  Do you ever get the feeling that right now he is (1+ / 0-)
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    mailing it in? Yes he is doing the poor little us victimized repubs, Yes he is trying to flip the conversation with the same tired talking points. Yes he really has to be out there in the limelight and doing what he is doing.
    I just don't think his heart is in it right now. The man for his exceedingly long list of other faults is a fairly savvy political operator. Just look at the laundry list of fail that he has to deal with and it just keeps growing
    A. Romney's Tax returns. Those have yet to appear and in all likelyhood never will.
    B. Romney's business experience. Shady, predatory, outsourceing, and unable to stand close examination.
    C. Romney is the quintessential 1%er with all the liabilities that means.
    D. Ryan's path to prosperity budget.
    E. Ryan's history of "prolife" in the congressional record.
    F. The easy linkage of the far right looney tunes, see Akin et al., directly to the ticket.
    G. The easy linkage for the rest of the repubs currently in office to the same pattern of behavior.
    H. The ongoing "war" on women, LBGT's, and any other minority group.
    The hits just keep coming and he is starting to look like he is wearing down. It looks like even he doesn't believe the message he is sending. If there is an extra amount of whine in his voice lately its probably because he has to keep putting out political fires set not by the DNC, but by the idiots that he is trying to get elected. With a job like that I'd be whining too, if I wasn't quitting it outright.

  •  sadly there is a reason for that (0+ / 0-)

    there are people who agree with us on EVERYTHING except abortion care who will vote Republicon for that one reason.

    it's all they have left.  they have alienated every other aspect of their base, including the racists.

    "Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
    CALL EVERYONE YOU KNOW in OH, PA, FL, NC and TX. Make sure they have the ID they need to vote, and make sure YOU are registered and ready to vote!

    by TrueBlueMajority on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:34:05 AM PDT

  •  Republicans=the party that relies on Nazi studies (1+ / 0-)
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    DSPS owl

    performed in Nazi Death Camps by making women who had been starved, beaten, worked almost to death, the targets of genocide, torn from their children, husbands, mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers, most of whom were already dead, believe that they were about to die in a gas chamber to prove that women who are "legitimately" raped don't get pregnant.  Pardon me, I have to go throw up...again!

    Feminism is the radical notion that women are people. ~Cheris Kramarae and Paula Treichler

    by Tchrldy on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:35:47 AM PDT

  •  Never in politics has a political party... (0+ / 0-)

    ...done so much to squander its advantages in order to wrestle what is becoming an almost certain defeat out of the jaws of victory. The pathetic efforts of Reiece Priebus on the Fox so-called "news" channel to spin his way out of his party's predicament on choice only furthers this epic GOP freefall. Someone should have told him that a large majority of Americans support a woman's right to reproductive choice before he did his dance on Fox.

    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." --Gandhi

    by alaprst on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:36:42 AM PDT

  •  "carry a pregnancy to term even if it kills her" (1+ / 0-)
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    "Paul Ryan, who believes that a woman should have to carry a pregnancy to term even if it kills her."

    This to me is the perfect summary.

    Let's make sure people hear this and get a chance to defend it.

    I'm thinking there won't be many takers.

    The Fail will continue until actual torches and pitchforks are set in motion. - Pangolin@kunstler.com

    by No one gets out alive on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:38:28 AM PDT

  •  Republicans seem to have a problem with (1+ / 0-)
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    the voters knowing their ACTUAL positions on issues.

    One after another, they keep inadvertently letting cats out of their bag.  Then run around trying to kill the cats.

    Nobody likes cat-killers.


    "A recent study reveals Americans' heads are larger than they were 150 years ago but sadly there is no indication that the extra room is used for anything." - entlord

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:40:36 AM PDT

  •  Jake Tapper: Media helped "tip the scales" (0+ / 0-)

    to Obama in '08, huh? Funny, I remember the exact opposite, both during the primaries and general election, from the likes of CNN and the Associated Press, and of course your fellow ABC hacks, George Stephanopoulos and Charles Gibson.

    Also, I'm pretty sure the market crash and McCain suspending his campaign tipped the scales to Obama.

    Fucking douchebag.

  •  Tipped and Reced for (0+ / 0-)

    "transparently stupid".

    Not Transparent enough or Stupid enough to get the Village Idiots to Change their Minds, But Perfect for the Rest of Us.

    On Giving Advice: Smart People Don't Need It and Stupid People Don't Listen

    by Brian76239 on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:42:29 AM PDT

  •  they are trying to do the same thing that they did (0+ / 0-)

    with Chick-Fil-A. y'know, the whole 'ugh....why are you people still talking about this? just let it go. freedomz of speech, so shut up already' thing.

    Whose interest does ignorance serve? - Carl Sagan

    by spgilbert on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:44:49 AM PDT

  •  Priebus forgets (0+ / 0-)

    they have been obsessing about Obama being pro-life, supporting Roe v. Wade, as well as being a black Kenyan SocialistNaziCommunist Muslim for four years.  

    This is the first time it has really hit a national news cycle and stayed there that the Republican platform, their VEEP, (and to some extent the Presidential candidate) would support personhood amendments,  believe there is a difference between rape and forcable rape, would outlaw all abortions and most birth control via the personhood amendments, and basically really are at war with the family planning norms of most of American families.

  •  when there is no exception for the health of the (0+ / 0-)

    mother than yeah, I can see how this asswipe would think the President's "obsession" might warrant a view. Considering that we are talking to a man who's starting point is no exceptions whatsoever and has the entire party backing the same thing, then yeah, I guess I can see his point. Jackass...needs to stay out of my vagina & my business. God, I abolutely detest how they complain endlessly about how government is telling us what to do with all these regulations on businesses but they sure do luv to have government in your bedroom telling the individual who to luv, how to luv, and what a woman can do/not do with  her body. I wonder if those boner bills has made that party even nutter. I'll bet there's a correlation there.  

    Earth: Mostly harmless ~ The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (revised entry)

    by yawnimawke on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:47:40 AM PDT

  •  This is what the pearl clutching is about (1+ / 0-)
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    http://factcheck.org/...

    Anti-abortion activists accuse Obama of "supporting infanticide," and the National Right to Life Committee says he’s conducted a "four-year effort to cover up his full role in killing legislation to protect born-alive survivors of abortions." Obama says they’re "lying."

    At issue is Obama’s opposition to Illinois legislation in 2001, 2002 and 2003 that would have defined any aborted fetus that showed signs of life as a "born alive infant" entitled to legal protection, even if doctors believe it could not survive.

    Obama opposed the 2001 and 2002 "born alive" bills as backdoor attacks on a woman’s legal right to abortion, but he says he would have been "fully in support" of a similar federal bill that President Bush had signed in 2002, because it contained protections for Roe v. Wade.

    When someone is impatient and says, "I haven't got all day," I always wonder, How can that be? How can you not have all day? George Carlin

    by msmacgyver on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:48:07 AM PDT

    •  Redstate accuses politifact of (1+ / 0-)
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      lying on this one, but doesn't provide any basis for their statement. I suspect it's because they know the GOP base is not too into verifying things.

      The founding fathers knew of the mutually corrupting influences of Church and state, wisely sending them to opposite corners.

      by emidesu on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 10:55:19 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  It's more a question of semantics than (0+ / 0-)

        (then) Senator Obama's interpretation of the bill.  Far too nuanced for the wackadoodles to parse.

        When someone is impatient and says, "I haven't got all day," I always wonder, How can that be? How can you not have all day? George Carlin

        by msmacgyver on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 02:16:40 PM PDT

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  •  prince rebus of fuckwadistan...this guy has (0+ / 0-)

    mad potential to be a major player in the rapidly shrinking republican party...you go boy!

    Colorado has a much higher GDP than Utah because it is culturally superior

    by memofromturner on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:52:01 AM PDT

  •  It's not transparently stupid. (0+ / 0-)

    It's not transparently stupid at all.  It's blatant, arrogant, a bold faced lie, but not stupid.  

    After all, this is the exact same thing they have done for the past 10+ years.

    Whenever they are confronted with anything, they try the "rubber and glue" crap.  "Well, Democrats do it too."  "Well, Democrats are even worse."  "Well, why aren't we talking about how the Democrats did [Horrible thing we did]?"

    It's "Intentional Projection."  It's one of the reasons our news industry has been conditioned to look for "both sides" in every issue, even when there really aren't two sides.

    For example:  Bush gets caught going AWOL in his past?  Suddenly Republicans are out there asking why Kerry (a war hero) is such a horrible soldier.  (Swiftboating.)

    There are a million other examples, mostly involving Karl Rove -- it's a favorite trick of his.

    The Republicans are on the ropes right now with this Akin mess.  It's becoming increasingly obvious that Akin is not an "out there" loon, but rather, a fairly typical Republican, with outrageous ties not only to Paul Ryan but Mitt Romney himself.

    If they can't find some way to cloud the waters, to get people OFF this topic, immediately, they're going to start losing races over it.

    And they know it.

    That's why they're desperately trying this particular technique -- I imagine either Rove has sent them out there to try and see if this will work.

    Or perhaps he didn't; maybe this is them desperately imitating the Master Turdblossom, trying to do damage control while waiting for marching orders -- that would definitely explain why it's so poorly thought out.

  •  GOP (1+ / 0-)
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    What is it with them?  It's the same old song ALL THE TIME.

    Guns, God, Gays, Gynaecology.

  •  HOV lanes (0+ / 0-)

    do fertilized eggs let you drive in the HOV lanes?

  •  They can yell baby killer at a fevered pitch. (0+ / 0-)

    People can't hear it when Republicans are stuffing transvag ultrasounds in their ears while trying to legitimately rape them.

    VULTURE/VOUCHER 2012. FUCK YOU, MIDDLE CLASS!

    by GOPGO2H3LL on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:54:05 AM PDT

  •  Reince Priebus ! (0+ / 0-)

    Really! Reince friggin Priebus!

    Mr. Reince "War on Caterpillars" Priebus.

    How do they keep coming up with shitheads like this?

    They must have a farm, or a shithead tree in somebody's back yard,  or something.

    "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

    by jkay on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 09:59:13 AM PDT

  •  Sanctity of Life? (2+ / 0-)
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    So they are also against Capital punishment, war, assault weapons, killer drones, bombs, weapons of mass destruction, nuclear  weapons/bombs, pollution, poisons....etc., etc...?

    Now that would be a platform that I could support!

    Character is what you are in the dark. Emilio Lizardo in Buckaroo Bonzai

    by Temmoku on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 10:01:18 AM PDT

  •  When Michael Steele Is Sane In Comparison..... (0+ / 0-)

    you know Reince isn't cutting it.  He's whiny, he comes off as Howdy Doodyish, & too young to be in that spot.  A little guy in grown up clothes leading the faith party off the cliff.  

  •  not to be outdone (0+ / 0-)

    Not to be outdone, out-of-touch, illegally third-termed New York Mayor Billionaire Bloomberg has decreed that -- starting next month -- city hospitals must keep baby formula under lock and key, and new mothers who can't or won't breastfeed will be given a "shame on you" lecture each time before they are allowed to get formula to feed their just-born children.  

    What is it with these politicians who believe that they know what's best for everyone -- especially for women?

    Instead of focusing on jobs, infrastructure or anything at all appropriate, they just try to impose their narrow-minded vision on everyone, and I feel that more and more members of the electorate will lose heart and stop voting, as more and more idiot candidates lie about their stances in order to steal elections, then satisfy their urges and their greed or resolve their own control issues at the expense of everyone else.  

  •  The Death Penalty Is A Great Wedge Issue (0+ / 0-)

    If the GOP candidate is running against a Democrat who is against the death penalty it would be political malpractice not to use it against them, considering that the public is clearly pro death penalty. The numbers are not as clear on abortion as an issue. Yes, Gallup showsthat the number of people who describe themselves as pro-choice has declined but still the majority want to see it stay legal.

    While Americans' identification as "pro-choice" has waned over the past year, their fundamental views about the morality and legality of abortion have held steady. Half of Americans, 51%, consider abortion morally wrong and 38% say it is morally acceptable -- nearly identical to the results in May 2011.
    Don't think people like Akin expressing an extreme position helps the anti-abortion side. So if they want to use it as an issue, they are welcome to it.
  •  And then there is HR 666, the ... (0+ / 0-)

    Female Slavery Act of 2012!

  •  The gop JOBS agenda. (0+ / 0-)

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Thu Aug 23, 2012 at 11:37:48 AM PDT

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