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Republicans would love it if they could convince everybody that Jimmy Carter was the worst president of the 20th century and that Barack Obama is even worse than Carter. To prove it, they've taken Carter's critical words from more than three decades ago in an attempt to describe current economic conditions. In another of his lie-filled speeches, as Bob Johnson points out, vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan contended that "President Obama makes the Jimmy Carter years look like good old days." And Team Romney's Ryan Williams was quick to blast Carter's four-minute video viewed by delegates at the Democratic Convention Tuesday night.

Carter, who left the White House 32 years ago, thus remains a perpetual Republican target.

Yet at the same time as Ryan and Romney and the rest of this year's desperate Republicans try anything to get the bounce in the polls their pathetic convention in Tampa failed to deliver, they act as if George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, gone from office just three-and-a-half years, don't exist. Neither of them did videos for the assembled faithful in Florida.

Vanished with them from the Republican campaign playbook are two wars of choice at an ultimate cost of around $3 trillion, changes in the tax code for the ultra-wealthy that added trillions to the national debt, failure to pay attention to intelligence that might have prevented the terrorist attack on Manhattan and Washington, D.C. that killed 3,000, failure despite "dead or alive" bravado to get the guy who ordered that attack, economic policies that cost the nation in the pair's final 12 months in office 4.5 million jobs, an unemployment rate that was 87 percent higher than when they came into office and gasoline prices that were twice as much.

Is it any wonder that Team Romney seeks to frame the campaign with a convenient amnesia about what happened just a few years ago while boasting the sharpest memory of what happened before nearly half the population of the United States was born? Could it be because they don't have a candidate who on his best day is half as good as either Jimmy Carter or Barack Obama on his worst?

Originally posted to Meteor Blades on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:02 PM PDT.

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  •  George who? (5+ / 0-)

    Never heard of him...

    “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser men so full of doubts.” ― Bertrand Russell

    by r fisher on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:09:03 PM PDT

  •  History has already ranked Jimmy Carter (14+ / 0-)

    ahead of George W. Bush when it comes to Presidents...

    George W. Bush is rated among the worst and Jimmy Carter isn't.

    As a member of Courtesy Kos, I am dedicated to civility and respect for all kossacks, regardless of their opinions, affiliations, or cliques.

    by joedemocrat on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:15:32 PM PDT

  •  Dick Cheney? (6+ / 0-)

    Wasn't he the ventriloquist that held that wooden dummy?

    "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

    by Navy Vet Terp on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:18:32 PM PDT

  •  See this Economy (5+ / 0-)
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    The 1st Amendment gives you the right to say stupid things, the 1st Amendment doesn't guarantee a paycheck to say stupid things.

    by JML9999 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:19:14 PM PDT

  •  MORONS! (1+ / 0-)
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    US Blues

    Sorry I don't have anything more profound or sophisticated to add:(

    Hey Rethugs, if ya think ya don't like a president named Barack Hussein Obama... yar really ain't gonna like the next president of the United States, Julian **Castro** 2016 baby! 2016!

    by tha puddin on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:20:58 PM PDT

  •  Unlike the Repugs, we celebrate our past (0+ / 0-)

    Democratic presidents and include them in our conventions.

    Heard numerous times at Tampa: "Bush, who?"

    GOP - "Home of the Whopper!"

    by Templar on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:21:11 PM PDT

  •  Yeah, and Richard Nixon - "Tricky Dick" - makes... (2+ / 0-)
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    ... the GOP of 2012 look - and definitely BE - extreme.

    Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

    by TRPChicago on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:21:25 PM PDT

  •  Jimmy Carter (13+ / 0-)

    is more honorable than the entire GOP caucus combined.

    I get real sick of people trashing Jimmy Carter.  He also inherited a mess.  He was the first President to seriously and methodically incorporate human rights into US foreign policy - and even though the Reagan Administration did it's best to gut the State Department's Bureau of Democracy,. Human Rights and Labor, that office regained credibility over time.  Carter got the Refugee Act passed. Those are just some accomplishments in areas that I'm familiar with... no doubt there are many others.

    “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

    by ivorybill on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:22:53 PM PDT

    •  Honorable is right (5+ / 0-)

      Worked tirelessly to get the US hostages in Iran released and home alive.

      Has never stopped working for human rights globally for the last 30 years.

    •  Five energy bills, three of which were... (7+ / 0-)

      ...subsequently wrecked by Reagan. If Carter's renewables policies had been continued, we would by now be well beyond the 25% and 33% goals being set by some states for such electricity-generating sources for 2030.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:39:14 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Carter was a science-based visionary who (6+ / 0-)

      addressed the energy issues of his day even though the oil, gas, and coal interests did their best to discredit him.  He put solar panels on the White House.  They were removed under Reagan because Nancy didn't like their looks.  Carter also started the development of all the stealth weaponry currently used by the military because he saw how wars would be fought in the future.  But the DOD still likes their 80 billion dollars worth of fighter jets, F-15 stealths, that can't be flown.

      Romney went to France instead of serving in our military, got rich chop-shopping US businesses and eliminating US jobs, off-shored his money in the Cayman Islands, and now tells us to "Believe in America."

      by judyms9 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:42:49 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Jimmy Carter saved Alaska (0+ / 0-)

      and the many millions of acres of wild public land there, much of it now National Parks, National Monuments, Wild and Scenic Rivers, nationally protected wilderness, and national forests.

      He's a public lands hero on the scale of Teddy Roosevelt.

      Resist much, obey little. ~~Edward Abbey, via Walt Whitman

      by willyr on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:34:10 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Do you suppose they hate Carter (3+ / 0-)
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    because he seems to have had a more successful life AFTER being president?  Or because he is a white southerner who is a progressive?

    •  It's that peace stuff (3+ / 0-)
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      Pure treason to them.

      A definition is the enclosing of a wilderness of ideas within a wall of words -- Samuel Butler

      by A Mad Mad World on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:29:33 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  They just want to refight a battle they won. (3+ / 0-)
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      It's as simple as that.  They don't love Reagan or hate Carter as much as replay the result of the election.

      "My taxes are of the legally correct height, and the core reason for my campaign is to make them a different, lower height, and it is none of your business what precisely either of those heights might be." Mitt, as channelled by Hunter.

      by Inland on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:43:43 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Reagan was a SUCCESSFUL president, Carter... (0+ / 0-)

        ...may yet be judged to have been a GREAT president. That is not the current view but tune back in in a hundred years, please.

        Time is an enormous, long river, and I’m standing in it, just as you’re standing in it. My elders are the tributaries, and everything they thought and every struggle they went through & everything they gave their lives to flows down to me-Utah Phillips

        by TerryDarc on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 04:24:54 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  I think Ryan should talk about something else. (5+ / 0-)

    Does he have any idea how small he and Romney look compared to Jimmy Carter?

    "I had seen the universe as it begins for all things. It was, in reality, a child's universe, a tiny and laughing universe." Loren Eiseley

    by cadejo4 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:23:58 PM PDT

    •  Carter was a submarine commander, Ryan a (5+ / 0-)

      lying runner and career Washington insider, and Romney a chickenhawk who wants to be president of a country he didn't think good enough to serve when it was his turn during Viet Nam.  The R and R boys have been on R and R their entire lives and couldn't carry Carter's water.

      Romney went to France instead of serving in our military, got rich chop-shopping US businesses and eliminating US jobs, off-shored his money in the Cayman Islands, and now tells us to "Believe in America."

      by judyms9 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:49:37 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Post-presidential Carter (8+ / 0-)

    is a much beloved figure.  It's harder to knock him down than the Republicans might think.

    He's earned quite a bit of cred in his post-office years.

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:24:11 PM PDT

  •  Legacies can be such unforgiving things... (5+ / 0-)

  •  William Henry Harrison > George W. Bush (2+ / 0-)
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    It's official!!

    (romney)/RYAN 2012 - REPEAL OBAMACHAIR!!!

    by Fordmandalay on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:25:33 PM PDT

  •  Repubs (3+ / 0-)
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    can go fkuc themselves, err, Dick Cheney themselves.

    Welcome to the headquarters of pulling facts out of my hindquarters

    by Mike E on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:25:51 PM PDT

  •  Ha! Speaking of invisible Presidents ... (0+ / 0-)

    Bush was MIA at their con-vention. I can't wait to see the Big  Dog at our convention!

    Have you googled Romney today?

    by fou on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:27:18 PM PDT

  •  We don't have to hide OUR ex-presidents. (7+ / 0-)

    Unlike the Republicans.

    Also, our ex-president can travel to any country in the world without fear of being detained for crimes against humanity.  

    Unlike the Republicans.

    •  Even our "worst" Presidents are invited back. (6+ / 0-)

      GOP no President(s) Bush. No Vice President Cheney or Quayle or Bush (again).  

      No past candidate Dole (or his senator wife). No Palin.  After McCain declared he wanted a five front war last week, I guess I see why.

      Even the current crop - no Gingrich, Paul, Cain, Perry, or Bachman.  

      Looking at the list, why am I supposed to be ashamed of Carter again?

      •  Perfect. Bravo! (0+ / 0-)

        Romney went to France instead of serving in our military, got rich chop-shopping US businesses and eliminating US jobs, off-shored his money in the Cayman Islands, and now tells us to "Believe in America."

        by judyms9 on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:51:04 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Jimmy Carter Is In NO WAY A Worst President (2+ / 0-)
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        I know you've put "worst" in quotes b/c you don't believe it either but I'm here to say that Jimmy Carter was a much better president than the MSM and the effing pundits will ever admit.  

        Here are some of Carter's achievements.
        .Panama Canal treaties
        .Camp David Accords
        .Treaty of peace between Egypt and Israel
        .SALT II treaty with the Soviet Union
        .Establishment diplomatic relations w/People's Republic of China
        .Comprehensive energy program conducted by a new D.O.E.
        .Deregulation in energy, transportation, communications, and finance
        .Educational programs under a new Department of Education
        .Environmental protection legislation, including the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act.

        Time is an enormous, long river, and I’m standing in it, just as you’re standing in it. My elders are the tributaries, and everything they thought and every struggle they went through & everything they gave their lives to flows down to me-Utah Phillips

        by TerryDarc on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 04:21:35 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  could have (3+ / 0-)
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    I think we should say "could have" prevented the 9-11 disaster rather than "might have."  I'd go further than that, actually, but am pleased to see it brought up at all.

  •  Carter stacks up pretty evenly against St. Ronnie. (1+ / 0-)
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    Compare GNP growth, unemployment, job creation.

    "Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin

    by hotdamn on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:28:13 PM PDT

  •  Two living former presidents from each party. (0+ / 0-)

    Both of ours made an appearance at the convention.  Neither of theirs did.

    Poor people look for work. Middle class people find a job. Rich people seek employment.

    by k4pacific on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:28:39 PM PDT

  •  Carter was a nuclear engineer who helped develop.. (4+ / 0-)
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    the first atomic submarines, prior to his political career.

    Paul Ryan drove a weinermobile.

    Mitt Romney treats people like things. And he treats things - corporations - like people.

    by richardak on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:29:43 PM PDT

  •  It's funny how the christian party attacks the (5+ / 0-)

    only politician who lives up to real christian values and principles.  Carter has a brilliant mind and a great human soul.  He did nothing wrong In Iran yet they blame him.  And for a similar operation they exclude Obama in the success!

  •  What was that video? It's "removed by user" now (0+ / 0-)

    That makes me all the more curious to see what Carter was going to say!

    Romney '12: Berlusconi without the sex and alcohol!

    by Rich in PA on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:35:15 PM PDT

  •  the republicans acted like bush and cheney (3+ / 0-)
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    didn't exist, while they were in the white house. according to the GOP, bill clinton was president for a record setting 16 years, making FDR pale by comparison (ok, yeah, FDR died during his 4th term, and your point would be?). all the bad things that happened for the years 2001 -2008? all clinton's fault. all those deficits filling up those years? clinton's fault. those two illegal, unfunded wars? clinton's fault. the twin towers? clinton's fault.

    everybody thinks it was george bush in the white house, they are wrong. it was bill clinton and al gore, wearing incredibly life-like bush and cheney masks. did you ever notice you never saw clinton and bush together? same with gore and cheney. bush actually spent those years clearing brush at his "ranch" in texas. it turns out it was actually a brush ranch, one of the largest in the country. meanwhile, bush's erstwhile vp was responsible for the worst rash of hunting "accidents" ever seen, all involving purported "friends".

    that's why none of them, including bush pere', showed up at the republican convention, they might have accidentally given the game away. including reagan was ok, he's been dead since 76. although, even when he was alive, it was difficult to tell. that's why he was able to be president for 8 years, he was that good of an actor!

    i'm just surprised it took this long for the republicans to go back to pres. carter, the only president to visit a nuclear site, and know as much about it, if not more, than the people operating it, might be a dangerous choice for the GOP to bring up, since he's still smarter than all their candidates combined. they must be pretty damn desperate.

  •  And they seem to forget they fucking tried to (1+ / 0-)
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    impeach Clinton who is now their role model for the ideal Democratic president.

    "Forever is composed of nows." Emily Dickinson

    by Leftovers on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:37:02 PM PDT

  •  Somehow I don't think they're going to scare off (0+ / 0-)

    too many Obama voters by likening him to Carter OR Clinton.   I mean, we're DEMS -- get it?!  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:40:35 PM PDT

  •  Jimmy-effing-Carter? Who's that dog whistle for? (3+ / 0-)
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    Anyone under the age of 40 won't even know who he is.

    And anyone that does is going to know him as that sweet old man that builds houses for people.

    What kind of an asshole do you have to be to continually roll out the tired, old--and ridiculously false--boogey-man image of him to try to drum up enthusiasm among the methuselah-contingent of your base?

    They like to use him as a punching bag because of the failure of Operation Eagle Claw.

    They will always be bitter that Operation Neptune Spear actually succeeded.  

    And I can't even conceive of what kind of an asshole you have to be to be happy that a US military mission failed, and devastated that another succeeded.

    "When and if fascism comes to will not even be called 'fascism'; it will be called, of course, 'Americanism'" --Professor Halford E. Luccock of Yale Divinity School; New York Times article from September 12, 1938, page 15

    by demongo on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:40:42 PM PDT

    •  Jimmy Carter Was MUCH Better President Than... (3+ / 0-)
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      ...he is given credit for by the MSM. History will also judge him much, much better than the current day.

      His post-presidential career will define that "office" for the future.

      Time is an enormous, long river, and I’m standing in it, just as you’re standing in it. My elders are the tributaries, and everything they thought and every struggle they went through & everything they gave their lives to flows down to me-Utah Phillips

      by TerryDarc on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 04:16:24 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Jimmy Carter - my hero! (2+ / 0-)
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    He deregulated the brewing industry! I'll drink to that!  Cheers!

    My mother met President Carter when she was volunteering in one of his campaign offices.  I will never forget how excited she was.  I was too young then to understand the significance of the event, but now it's one of my fondest memories.

    I love the smell of sulfur in the morning! -- Babs Bush

    by Theden on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:42:15 PM PDT

  •  Well, focusing on Jimmy Carter a huge move forward (2+ / 0-)
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    for GOP, since in oh eight McCain was focused on hippies and before that the GOP couldn't stop harping on Jane Fonda.

    "My taxes are of the legally correct height, and the core reason for my campaign is to make them a different, lower height, and it is none of your business what precisely either of those heights might be." Mitt, as channelled by Hunter.

    by Inland on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 03:42:47 PM PDT

  •  republicans pretend (3+ / 0-)
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    george bush was never president while the rest of the nation WISHES he had never been president.

  •  to be fair (0+ / 0-)

    there was a Bush video, with both Bushes, at the RNC, not that I had the stomach to sit through much of it.

  •  Carter was ahead of his time taking about (6+ / 0-)

    energy independence.  The GOP is still only talking about "North American" independence, which would still be foreign. Does it really matter if money for oil goes to a Mexican company or South American, African, or Mid-Eastern? It still an outflow for foreign oil, which has a price set by global traders.

    Which all still misses the point. Efficiency and conservation of current sources along with expanded research of other sources and technology is the way forward. Carter's message.

    Not more drilling or fracking.

  •  If it wasn't for Carter and his administration... (3+ / 0-)
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    ...I would have never gotten the money to go to college.

    I will be grateful to Pres. Carter for the rest of my life.

    The Republicans can burn in Hell.

  •  Consider Carter & Bush's Signature Achievements (1+ / 0-)
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    Carter: Camp David accords by which the Middle East turned around completely.

    Bush: Iraq War by which the Middle East turned around completely but not in a good way.

    It took Barack Obama to speak to the middle east conference in a superlative diplomatic stroke for us to regain the momentum. Then two years ago: Arab spring. I truly believe that would not have happened without our president speaking out and speaking up to the leaders of the Middle East. See a part below.

    I am honoured to be in the timeless city of Cairo, and to be hosted by two remarkable institutions. For over 1,000 years, Al-Azhar has stood as a beacon of Islamic learning, and for over a century, Cairo University has been a source of Egypt's advancement. Together, you represent the harmony between tradition and progress. I am grateful for your hospitality, and the hospitality of the people of Egypt. I am also proud to carry with me the goodwill of the American people, and a greeting of peace from Muslim communities in my country: assalaamu alaykum.

    "We meet at a time of tension between the United States and Muslims around the world, tension rooted in historical forces that go beyond any current policy debate.

    "The relationship between Islam and the West includes centuries of co-existence and co-operation, but also conflict and religious wars. More recently, tension has been fed by colonialism that denied rights and opportunities to many Muslims, and a Cold War in which Muslim-majority countries were too often treated as proxies without regard to their own aspirations. Moreover, the sweeping change brought by modernity and globalisation led many Muslims to view the West as hostile to the traditions of Islam.

    Violent extremists have exploited these tensions in a small but potent minority of Muslims. The attacks of September 11th, 2001, and the continued efforts of these extremists to engage in violence against civilians has led some in my country to view

    Islam as inevitably hostile not only to America and Western countries, but also to human rights. This has bred more fear and mistrust.

    So long as our relationship is defined by our differences, we will empower those who sow hatred rather than peace, and who promote conflict rather than the co-operation that can help all of our people achieve justice and prosperity. This cycle of suspicion and discord must end.

    Time is an enormous, long river, and I’m standing in it, just as you’re standing in it. My elders are the tributaries, and everything they thought and every struggle they went through & everything they gave their lives to flows down to me-Utah Phillips

    by TerryDarc on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 04:12:59 PM PDT

  •  Democrats Should use Nixon-Bush-Hoover (1+ / 0-)
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    If we are going back to presidents from past generations then Democrats may as well use Richard Nixon against Romney-Ryan for their secrecy, lying and distorting; and use references to the Bush's and Herbert Hoover for their economic plans – after all, the Bush’s and Hoover were Republican businessmen who saw the economy take a nosedive under their stewardship.

  •  Bush who? (1+ / 0-)
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    I realize why the Republican party has chosen to pretend that George Bush never existed, but man is it disrespectful to a 2 term President of the United States. We all know that he legitimately pushed our country about five light years in the wrong direction, but regardless of how much you or I can't even mention his name without our blood pressure rising, he still was a President, and a Republican President at that. For them to ignore a former President of the United States, regardless of party, is insulting and disrespectful. I wouldn't want to own him either, but he was a President and deserves our respect for that fact alone.

  •  pres carter (1+ / 0-)
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    told america the truth and they would not listen, reagan told them what they wanted to hear and the right wing downward slide of america began.

  •  Ask the GOP, they only had 2 presidents in 100 yrs (0+ / 0-)

    Reagan and Eisenhower.

    (and Eisenhower wasn't a real republican anyway - he was drafted, so they don't talk much about him either)

  •  He is one of the most decently (0+ / 0-)

    & admirably Christian persons  in our nation, &  by no intelligent measure  unorthodox in his beliefs, if you have read his published Sunday school lessons.  He is a living rebuke to the radical right wing "Christians" that first hijacked President Carter's Southern Baptist Convention,  which was already conservative, instituting  total doctrinal obedience & conformity in a betrayal of traditional  Baptist ideals, & then took over the Republican Party.

    "There ain't no sanity clause." Chico Marx

    by DJ Rix on Wed Sep 05, 2012 at 06:50:46 PM PDT

  •  They used to call Jimmy Carter the solar powered.. (0+ / 0-)

    President. Some as a perjorative. Not me.

    If we had taken his advice or rather his strong warning about the necessity of a national energy policy coordinated by the government instead of Big Oil and other special interests calling the shots, who knows how far along we'd be this day with cheap, clean, renewable energy.

    And we'd be 30 years ahead in reversing or at least lessening global warming/climate change.

    Never mind that we may never have gone around the world making wars on those special interests behalf - Big Oil

    Thx MB

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