FOXnews:
Martha MacCallum-- "So last night we heard more Democrats telling their story and one of the things that's being raised now is is that story always accurate...so we're checking some of the facts...
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Molly Henneberg-- "You've been talking this week about the national debt you know it's over 16 trillion dollars. Let's look at what the former President, President Clinton said about the national debt and how it has risen under various presidents.
First, have you ever noticed how the Fox "news"people speak in run-on sentences? You think it might be a way to confuse the listener when they speed rush over a lie and don't want listeners to have a chance to ponder the statement before they run to the next topic?
Anyway, Bill Clinton's critique of the national debt truth:
And don't you ever forget when you hear them talking about this: That Rep. economic policy quadrupled the national debt in the 12 years before I took office...and doubled it in the eight years after I left office...
The "fact check"
Henneberg: That's all mostly true BUT it leaves out a key detail"
Excuse me? I thought we were going to check the "facts" not talk about what else might have been left out of the statement...you know like..."He failed to mention that, as yet, no life has been found on Uranus."
Ahh
Henneberg (cont): Here's what is true: From 1980 when Ronald Reagan took office to 1992 when President Clinton took office the debt went up from 934 billion to 4.617 trillion.
Ok, so the debt actually nearly QUINtupled. Got ya...Clinton gave the GOP credit they didn't deserve. Thanks for the hot tip. We win.
More Henneberg massage with no happy ending: "That is more than a 4x increase. Then from 2000 when George Bush took office to the day when President Obama came into the White House the debt didn't quite double, as President Clinton said but did go up 85%(from 5.72 trillion to 10.62 trillion) Now, here's what President Clinton left out
Now wait. I thought we were checking facts. Didn't quadruple...nearly multiplied 5x over. No bonus points for the nearly full point difference but..."
didn't quite double. So your "fact", your "gotcha" moment is that it "didn't quite double"? Really? 85% can't be rounded up for purpose of giving a speech? He should have recited the percentages down to the google decimal? So he gave you, in dollars, about a little less than a trillion. But you're calling him on not giving you a little less than another trillion? This fact checking is "hard".
Henneberg: "He has not mentioned what happened to the debt since President Obama took office.
Small tidbit. President Clinton was not citing what Democrats had done with the debt but what the debt had done under the stewardship of "fiscal conservatives". Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2 did NOT inherit a near depressive economy. Part of the budget for year 1 of Obama is technically Bush's fiscal year but is ascribed to Obama as is the carried over debt from both wars, unfunded tax cuts and both Bush and Obama bailouts to stabilize the economy. They also neglect to remind people of Bush's use of SS trust as a budget modifier because it doesn't look good to "fiscal conservatives" when "fiscal conservatives" cook the books.
That is all. That is the great fact check of Bill Clinton's "arithmetic". Awesomely inept, wholly unnecessary and completely transparent to even the dimmest of light bulbs...as long as they can see through their "don't tread on me" bandana/pirate patches.
But wait, there's more:
Elizabeth Warren is a big ol' lyin' librul two er too? There was two instances of lyin' but too is cool cuz it has too o's so I'll go with two for the first and did I just type two as tu tu? I don't know. Fact checkin' is almost as hard as brush cuttin'.
Molly "the fact checker" Henneberg: "taxes going up on middle class families in a Romney administration.
E. Warren: "His (Romney's) plan will hammer them with a tax hike of up to two thousand dollars.
Uh-oh Elizabeth...you in trouble...
Henneberg: "FactCheck.org says: 'their comments are based on an Aug 1 report from the Tax Policy Center that concluded that it's simply not mathematically possible for Romney to lower tax rates across the board, as he has proposed, without losing revenue, which he's also promised. We're shifting the tax burden to the Middle Class". The Romney campaign refutes that study, says it was done by a former Obama staffer and Governor Romney has said repeatedly....that he will not raise taxes on the Middle Class.
Ah hah! You fucking nailed Elizabeth Warren to a cross reserved for the lyingest of liars except...you know...for the part about...her statement being
backed up by the very quote you used to refute her statement.
"She's a witch...well, we did the nose."
Holy potatoheads, Mr.eous words I want to cry-laugh at for their factual nothingness. You prove, on your own, that both statements are factually acceptable and then your "fact checking" tells us that fact checking has nothing to do with facts but that you prefer your own version of Fact checkery: fox"NEWS" style: "yes, your facts are factual butttttttttttttttt let me tell you what you failed to tell me."
bad bill. bad elizabeth. You are both grounded and reduced to all lower case letters for telling factual truths. Shame on you for not reminding the audience that you had an obligation to tell FauxCheckers"Nooze" the version of reality they wanted to hear. How dare you elizabeth. How dare you cite tax numbers parlayed by a tax policy group without reminding your voters that the OPPOSITION wanted to know that Mitt Romney promises his fuzzy math isn't really fuzzy and that his arithmetic really does add up if you remember Mitt explaining: "that adding a negative number that is greater than a positive number equals a negative sum...no, no wait...if you add a negative number that is less than a positive number to a negative number and then just null it by multiplying it by zero...seriously, I used this trick at Bain...once you're back to zero it's like you get a fresh start. So, I cut taxes and increase spending so I'm adding a positive number cuz I'll be cutting a positive tax rate of 30% to like 2% for me...so that's a positive number right? Ok, now, I'm adding to spending so that number is going up but it's positive too so I get to add to positive numbers resulting in a positive number so nothing is lost. Easy and works on confusing accountants and regulators too."
bad bill and elizabeth. you will go down in the pantheon of politicians as factual and that type of behavior will never get you into the politician hall of shame, for shame.