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In a stunning attack on the 1st Amendment, Rep. Stephen Fincher (R-TN) introduced a House Resolution that would directly lead to the dismanteling of the Constitution of the United States of America.

From Raw Story:

The Secular Coalition for America on Tuesday blasted a resolution proposed in the U.S. House of Representatives that “reaffirms the importance of religion in the lives of United States citizens.”

“A resolution that ‘reaffirms the importance of religion’—specifically a Judeo-Christian religion—in the lives of Americans excludes the many Americans for whom religion is not important, or those who do not identify with a Judeo-Christian religion,” said Edwina Rogers, Executive Director of the Secular Coalition for America.

Fincher, and his cohorts are determined that Christianity be the sole subject for government largesse on a previously unheard of scale, proposing as they do that the United States government effectively sponsor the Christian version of world events.

One is led to wonder why such an apparently dominant religion is in such desperate need of government support. The answer, of course, is that it isn't. That being the case then the next question is "why are they doing this?"

They are doing it because they are racist bastards.

They are doing it because nice, middle class white people identify solidly with "Christianity", and they have already deployed many weapons against the black Christians .... What they need to do now is whip up fear of brown people.

Muslims are brown people, and Muslims, with their Sharia Laws have already been identified as a target by rich white folk, who want to stay rich, at any cost.

These people, and I use that term pejoratively, these people are a cancer on our society. That they have been elected to Congress is a stain on our nation, and a complete and utter condemnation of those voters who live in willful ignorance.

Of course this will not go anywhere. It was never meant to. It is a dog-whistle to racists by those elected to fix the economy, create jobs and bring social justice to America.

They are unfit to govern. Unfit for office and, quite frankly, those who support them are unfit to vote.

From the comments, and a H/T to woolibaar:

If you want an argument to demonstrate to your FB friends why this is such a stunningly bad idea, try this one:

Replace the word "God" in the pledge of allegiance with the word "Allah" (or Jehovah if you prefer). You would hear so much screaming about religious persecution and how dare they force their religion down our throats, et al, the truth would out.
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  •  Tip Jar (17+ / 0-)

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    by twigg on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 06:00:20 AM PDT

  •  Things like this make me wonder (5+ / 0-)

    why we do not treat religion here like they do in Germany.

    IIRC There children are not allowed to be indoctrinated. So they grow up learning critical thinking skills before they are introduced to theology. The end result?

    The only religious people from Germany I've ever met were actively on Mission.

    There is something seriously wrong with your religion if the only people that I can have a learned conversation with about the religion are the Nuns, monks and higher priests.

    Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

    by Horace Boothroyd III on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 06:09:41 AM PDT

  •  So I read the resolution and while it is obnoxious (8+ / 0-)

    in its laundry-list preamble, it doesn't really surprise or bother me until we get to the actual few lines of the resolution at the bottom of the bill.  At which point, three of the four points are dangerous and absolutely unacceptable to me:

    Resolved, That the House of Representatives--

        (1) reaffirms the importance of religion in the lives of United States citizens and their freedom to exercise those beliefs peacefully;

         (3) rejects efforts to remove evidence of Judeo-Christian heritage and references to God from public structures and resources; and

        (4) expresses support for preserving the freedom to exercise religious beliefs in the United States.

    Points 1 and 3 are, of course, designed to support Christian efforts to do everything from refuse to fill prescriptions for birth control, to refuse to marry same-sex couples, to refuse to sign birth certificates for children born to single mothers or same-sex couples, etc. etc.

    But point 2 is directed at efforts to remove the Ten Commandments from public places, and has the additional problem of being intended to support the imposition of prayer in schools and at public events, and to fight public opposition to crucifixes and nativity scenes on public land.  By extension, it could be used to support the notion that only Judeo-Christian people are permitted to use those buildings, places and resources.

    That's one more thing to add to my long list of small problems. --my son, age 10

    by concernedamerican on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 06:11:46 AM PDT

    •  Also our money (7+ / 0-)

      and places like Mt.Soledad where they snuck up there and planted a cross on public land and now claim it as a holy site.

      It is a holy site but only because Theodore Giesel lived there.

      Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

      by Horace Boothroyd III on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 06:44:32 AM PDT

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    •  and thereby get struck down as unconstitutional. (5+ / 0-)
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      The reason these idiots introduce these types of bills is to dog-whistle to their constituents and get points toward the next election (only weeks away).  

      What's also obnoxious to at least a handful of Jews on DK (and they in turn probably feel the same way as a sizable fraction of Jewish Americans), is this phrase "Judeo-Christian," because it attempts to smoosh together two different faiths and traditions that are not the same, and it makes Jews out to be hyphenated Christians.   And there are Christians who object to being hyphenated like that precisely because they don't want to be placed into some kind of implied cultural imperialism against Jews.  

      The answer to bills such as this is to vote them down to ignominious defeat and then take some kind of disciplinary measure against the person who introduces them, on the grounds that it's some kind of legislative malpractice to introduce bills that are blatantly unconstitutional on their face.

      "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 06:53:07 AM PDT

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  •  I can offer a motive for why they are doing this (6+ / 0-)

    One of the unintended consequences of the attempt to privatize public education into a voucher system towards private, charters and religious schools is that the taxpayers will then be subsidizing not just parochial and fundamentalist Christian schools but OMG! madrassas and the like.

    We can't have their dream charter system unless they stamp out both freedom of religion and freedom from religion.

    Again, one more major flaw in the privatization of public education, no matter whose perspective you are looking at it from.

    The charter school move and the anti-public education movement has 2 prongs. The first prong is simply those who see the last great unexploited gravy train that has not left the depot for the crony capitalists, Republicans and Democrats alike. All of this manufactured concern about the quality of American schools and the animus towards the teachers unions is about one thing - making money!

    They want to take  the taxpayer dollars now paid towards public education and put in in private pockets by creating "non-profits" who pay huge salaries to their upper executive levels and who will also do things like pay huge inflated rents to the cronies who own the buildings, and pay huge inflated prices for things like testing systems, curriculums, software, also owned by the cronies. The VERY last people on the totem pole are the teachers. The students occupy the second to last rung.

    Anyone who does not recognize this whole cynical movement for exactly what it is, is just hopeless.

    The second group with a vested interest are those who would like to see public monies invested in their private ideologies which is where this post opened. They would love to have taxpayers funding their private religious schools, but they want to dictate which religions get supported. The only way to do this is through legislation like that being discussed.

    “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

    by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 06:22:30 AM PDT

    •  I could very easily (3+ / 0-)
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      go "postal" on them when I start thinking about the attacks on public education.

      They are going for a two-fer with that one.

      Privatize the $750 Billion public education budget AND dumb down the future electorate to the point that they are more easily scared and led by the nose.

      I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
      but I fear we will remain Democrats.

      by twigg on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 06:28:59 AM PDT

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      •  Look at all the money being poured into this (4+ / 0-)
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        effort by EVERYONE who is connected.

        There are actual venture capital funds targeted towards the charter school movement. Feature films. Documentaries. Bogus political events attended by both parties and covered by the media like "Education Nation".

        The slobbering over Arne Duncan by both parties.

        Everyone has had since time immemorial to care about the education of our children - all of this effort could have been channeled into efforts to improve our public schools lo these many years. It is only when a "business opportunity" is defined that the vultures pour in.

        It's all just part of the gigantic effort going on to "privatize" basically all the roles of government and the rubes see it as cost-cutting, not realizing they will have less and pay more for every single function being privatized.

        “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

        by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 06:50:40 AM PDT

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    •  exactly right. cronies looking for.... (4+ / 0-)
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      .... something to milk.  

      But the logical contradiction about madrassas is what will break this thing.

      Or will it?  

      Because after all the move to install real madrassas, places where the three Rs are "rote, repetition, and regurgitation," is backed up by none other than Saudi Arabia.  The official Saudi state religion is not Sunni or Shia Islam (much less Sufism!) but Wahhabism, a puritanical, punitive, uptight heresy that Muslims elsewhere only put up with because the Saudis control the holy cities.  Wahhabism in madrassas in the USA?  Sure, the Saudis would love it, and their cronies would give it a pass.

      None the less, "nativist" nationalist sentiments in the US can be counted on to kick up a shitstorm about that, and put an end to charter schools and vOUCHers one way or another.

      It will be a great day when the plutocrats and theocrats are at each others' proverbial throats.  Our job is to make it so.

      "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 07:04:08 AM PDT

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  •  Fastest way to end that nonsense (9+ / 0-)

    of "religious freedom" that the republicans insist upon:

    Replace the word "God" in the pledge of allegiance with the word "Allah" (or Jehovah if you prefer). You would hear so much screaming about religious persecution and how dare they force their religion down our throats, et al, the truth would out.

    Republicans (and too many others) don't really believe in religious freedom. They believe they have the freedom to believe what they want and they have the freedom to force you to believe they want.

    I reject your reality and substitute my own - Adam Savage

    by woolibaar on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 06:30:01 AM PDT

    •  I added this point to (4+ / 0-)

      the body of the Diary ... Thank you.

      I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
      but I fear we will remain Democrats.

      by twigg on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 06:36:31 AM PDT

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    •  amen to that! (1+ / 0-)
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      Use both!  

      Propose a bill enabling any person (including school children) to substitute the word "Jehovah," or "Allah," or "Yahweh" or any of the other thousands of names used around the world.

      And atheists could substitute "nature" or whatever word they want to use.  

      All nice and legal via this bill.

      Yep that'll stir up a stinkypoo alright.  

      Wonderful.  Make them go over the edge and scream naughty words in front of Congress.   Be sure to save the video for the next campaign.  

      "Minus two votes for the Democrat" equals "plus one vote for the Republican." Arithmetic doesn't care about your feelings.

      by G2geek on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 07:09:03 AM PDT

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  •  pinche madre (6+ / 0-)

    We see what this is REALLY about:

    "“The resolution was necessary because we felt it was appropriate to remind the president what, in fact, the motto of our great country is,” Rep. Tom Price (R-GA) explained.

    "Remind the President."

    Pound sand, shitbag.

    "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State ..."- Vermont Constitution Chapter 1, Article 16

    by kestrel9000 on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 06:50:42 AM PDT

  •  I am tired of the term Judeo-Christian (5+ / 0-)
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    since the Fundamental Dominionists who use it are totally ignorant of any Judaic traditions and pitifully few Christian ones.  given the tenets of these people, I would even say that the term is internally contradictory, given the differences in the two traditions  

  •  These types of "resolutions" (1+ / 0-)
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    are a dime a dozen these days, not only in state legislatures but in Congress as well. They don't have the force of law, but they do erode our Constitution by encoding religious support by government that can be used down the road to argue for theocracy, in this case a Christian theocracy.  Groups like the Secular Coalition, AU and FFRF have to play "whack-a-mole" with this stuff constantly, and it's a good thing for us that they do.

    •  my state did a "Year of the Bible" (2+ / 0-)
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      resolution. Meaningless, legally, but led to some interesting (controversial) billboards put up by the local atheist groups that pointed out some of the unpleasentries contained within (the billboard in particular was about slavery. Did not go over well, and was destroyed within a day of its appearence.)

      pseudoscience can kill

      by terrypinder on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 09:10:43 AM PDT

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      •  Good old PA (0+ / 0-)

        I used to live there and have a particular fondness for it...except for the slow drivers!

        One of the biggest social issues of the time of the New Testament and Jesus's supposed life was slavery.  But did the savior address this pressing social issue?  Did he use his unusual powers and status to speak out against slavery?  No.   If the billboard addressed this fact, then no wonder it was destroyed.  The truth hurts.

        •  it was trolling, admittedly (0+ / 0-)

          it had an image of a slave from the 17th century on it. Ironically, the image was destroyed first, leaving the "pro-slavery" verse for several days, before it too was finally destroyed.

          pseudoscience can kill

          by terrypinder on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 04:42:05 AM PDT

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  •  Thanks for (1+ / 0-)
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    posting this article.  Recommended, and cross-posted to Newsvine.

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