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6:24 PM PT: "I think math, commonsense, and our history shows that's not a recipe for job growth," says Obama. He had just told viewers that Romney is promising $7 trillion of new spending and tax cuts—and says that with that sort of the plan, the middle-class will end up holding the bag.

6:25 PM PT: Romney is being a dick now. He demands to have the last word.

6:26 PM PT: Romney says "my plan is not like anything that's ever been tried before." This is in response to Obama saying that Romney's plan is like the Bush plan, and that his plan is like the Clinton plan.

6:26 PM PT:
Romney: I bought this podium, so my rules
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6:26 PM PT: Honestly, I'm not quite sure why Jim Lehrer is even there. Romney and Obama could debate each other just fine without a moderator.

6:28 PM PT: Mitt Romney loves Big Bird. But he wants to kill his budget.

6:29 PM PT: By the way, here's how I judge who won this debate: whichever candidate leaves the debate with more support.

6:30 PM PT (Kaili Joy Gray): New thread here.

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