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Lots of commentators last night said the President looked distracted.  I agree.....and I know why.....

What some people seem to forget is that unlike Gov. R-Money, the President of the United States doesn't have the luxury of taking three weeks off to prep for a debate.  He has a day job....and a night job.

American Fighters Escort a Pair of Russian Strategic Bombers on a Long-Range Flight
Interfax 4 Oct 12
Moscow, 04 October, INTERFAX-AVN—The RF Ministry of Defense informs that a pair of Russian Federation Air Force TU-95MS strategic bombers, performing a flight over the neutral waters of the Arctic and Pacific Oceans, were escorted by USAF fighters.
The TU-95MS aircrews were honing their skills over featureless terrain, as well as performing midair refueling from an IL-78 tanker, with each [bomber] receiving 20 tons of fuel.  “The flight lasted 15 hours,” RFAF official spokesman Colonel Vladimir Drik informed INTERFAX-AVN on Thursday.
Drik pointed out that, “Two USAF F-15 fighters escorted the aircraft on their flight route.”
The TU-95MS aircraft took off from Ukrainka airbase in the Amur oblast’ on 04 October.  “All missions according to the plan of strategic deterrence were performed successfully,” V. Drik said.
He also noted that, in fulfilling the strategic deterrence mission, Long Range Aviation aircrews coordinated with high-altitude MiG-31 fighter-interceptors of the Northwestern Air Force and Air Defense Group over the Russian Federation, practicing joint planned missions.
According to V. Drik, “The flight path of the TU-95MS bombers passed over the neutral waters of the Arctic and Pacific Oceans.”  

This was happening while the debate was going on.  The President was informed and knew about it.

Distracted?  Just a bit.  Each TU-95 carries enough missiles to make the top 20 TV markets glow.

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  •  Tip Jar (5+ / 0-)

    It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

    by ksuwildkat on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 07:44:55 AM PDT

  •  LOL! (4+ / 0-)



    This is pretty routine stuff.  And there is no way that they were carrying nukes.

    Not ever.  The Russians aren't suicidal.

    The debate did not go nearly as badly as the Village is reporting, and the hand wringing around here is fairly pathetic.

    Nothing worth noting at the moment.

    by Bonsai66 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 07:52:11 AM PDT

    •  P.S. Try spell checking your diary title. (1+ / 0-)
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      This diary is one of the weirder things I've seen here recently.

      Nothing worth noting at the moment.

      by Bonsai66 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 07:53:32 AM PDT

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      #1 - this is not routine.  I know the EXACT day they last did this - because its my job to know.

      #2 - I cant speak for now - because Im not allowed to - but in years past we would do the exact thing to the Soviets with B52s.  They carried nukes EVERY TIME.

      #3 - While you have the luxury of writing this off as routine and not a threat, the President of the United States does not and has to take EVERY threat seriously.

      It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

      by ksuwildkat on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 08:00:06 AM PDT

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      •  Holy carp! (0+ / 0-)

        You don't know what you're talking about, then you pull out the "I can't speak of this now..." implying that you have some type of high level access, which you don't.  

        Then you pull out the '70s and '80s stuff from the cold war as a precedent.

        Sorry, but you're full of shit.

        And no, the Russians WERE NOT carrying nukes.


        Nothing worth noting at the moment.

        by Bonsai66 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 08:11:54 AM PDT

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        •  wow (0+ / 0-)

          maybe you should read a few of my other posts.

          This is literally what I do every day.

          It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

          by ksuwildkat on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 08:13:40 AM PDT

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          •  Bullshit? (0+ / 0-)

            Okay, let me ask you this.  What is the likelihood that the Russians would be carrying nukes, on a routine training exercise, that involved a midair refueling?

            Midair refuelings carry a not inconsiderable amount of risk.  What do the Russians gain from carrying nukes on a training exercise involving a significant risk of a broken arrow type event?

            If this is what you do for a living, I'm very concerned about who is employing you.

            Nothing worth noting at the moment.

            by Bonsai66 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 08:19:18 AM PDT

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    •  even if they don't, it's never wholly routine.... (2+ / 0-)
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      ksuwildkat, Sharon Wraight

      .... when US and Russian aircraft are hanging out in the sky together.  

      Back in the Cold War, the US used to fly border missions around the USSR, occasionally crossing just over the border to get the Soviet radar to light up, this being a splendid opportunity to collect ELINT (electronic intelligence: ascertaining the characteristics of electronic systems such as radar).  

      Of course the Soviets would scramble their fighters, which would give the American aircraft an escort back to international airspace.

      This always had the potential for serious danger, since miscommunication anywhere along the line could result in an incident and possibly trigger a nuclear war.

      According to someone I knew who flew some of those missions, the US and Soviet pilots had a little informal code worked out to signal each other that everything was routine.

      Keep in mind here that during these encounters, the US and Soviet jets flew so close to each other that if they weren't at high altitude and somewhere near the speed of sound, the pilots could reach across and shake hands in mid-air.  

      What they did to signal "A-OK, purely routine," was to hold up "girlie" pin-up photos in their respective cockpits for each other to see.  The American pilot would hold up a Playboy centerfold.  The Russian pilot would hold up... well, a calendar photo of a nice Russian gal in a tight sweater, standing in front of the latest agricultural tractor from Lenin Industrial Works #2... but that was sufficient for the purpose.  

      I have no idea if this clever custom for grassroots preservation of world peace continues to this day.  But if it does, these days the Russian pilots probably have access to regular nudie pictures to show our pilots.  

      And I suppose if the Russians integrate gay folks into their military, both sides would have the choice of showing each other gal photos or guy photos and having a good laugh if they didn't match up;-)

      And I'll bet it never occurred to you that soft porn played a vital role in keeping the world at peace.

      "Minus two votes for the Republican" equals "plus one vote for the Democrat." Arithmetic doesn't care about their feelings either!

      by G2geek on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 08:41:38 AM PDT

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      •  Lots of incidents (1+ / 0-)
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        happened during the "cold" war.  For some it was very hot.

        For the poor souls flying on KAL 007, the "Cold" war cost them their lives.  The Soviets maintain, and there is ample evidence to back them up, that they believed it was a US Intelligence flight.

        It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

        by ksuwildkat on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 08:51:33 AM PDT

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        •  yeah, i remember that one. (0+ / 0-)

          If that aircraft was collecting, it was not one of the finer moments for the USIC.  

          Fortunately we have no need of such methods now.

          In retrospect it all looks different in light of the knowledge that mutual deterrence worked and kept the peace.  But at the time, any hint of international tensions was cause for that creepy feeling and a bunch of what-ifs.  

          So now we've mostly gotten over that particular existential fear.  Though I can't help but think that we will see in our lifetimes, a limited nuclear exchange in the Middle East, or Pak/India, involving at most four nuclear weapons detonations (two in each direction) before the major powers step in and tell the hostile parties to stop in no uncertain terms.  This, followed by sufficiently horrifying news coverage of the aftermath, as to prevent another one for another span of living memory.

          And the only thing worse than nuclear war is biological war.
          Because bugs do something fallout can't: they multiply.

          "Minus two votes for the Republican" equals "plus one vote for the Democrat." Arithmetic doesn't care about their feelings either!

          by G2geek on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 09:12:27 AM PDT

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  •  Just Ol' Putin Rearing His Head (0+ / 0-)

    Everyone is crying out for peace; no one's crying out for justice...

    by mojave mike on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 07:52:12 AM PDT

  •  Ya kow what? No. (4+ / 0-)

    If President Obama can knock it out of the park at the WHCD while OBL is getting killed then he should be able to at least not get shown up by Mitt Fucking Romney.

  •  Stop spinning and get back to work. (0+ / 0-)

    Honestly guys.

    Romney won last night's debate by doing what he had to do -- present himself as the energetic CEO and not make any of his usual gigantic gaffes.  So he exceeded expectations, merely by dint of not completely tanking his campaign on the spot.  And that, for a candidate so far behind in the polls, is a WIN.

    Allow him the win.  And move on.

    •  R-Money did as good he could have hoped. (0+ / 0-)

      He needed to:
      1.  Stop the Bleeding / Free Fall narrative
      2.  Come across as semi-human
      3.  Gain parity of stature with the President
      4.  Etch the Sketch - i.e., do whatever it takes to appear to  
            customarily  "tack to the center", even if belatedly (due to    
            having to consolidate unenthusiastic base voters)

      The alpha-male, aggressive posture wears well with many voters, especially males.  

      IMHO, R-Money did all of the above in the short term.  

      Time will tell if:
      a.  it's sufficient to overcome his deficit electorally
      b.  it won't bite him in the medium / longer term

      PBHO knows there are lessons to be learned.  Here's hoping his competitive nature will learn them, and in turn take his opponent to school!

      "..The political class cannot solve the problems it created. " - Jay Rosen

      by New Rule on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 10:17:05 AM PDT

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  •  I disagree (2+ / 0-)
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    Bonsai66, Senor Unoball

    I disagree.  Obama was distracted last night because it's his anniversary and whoo! Michelle is hot.

    And I say that as a mostly straight woman.

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