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Ezra Klein and leading economist do a masterful job of debunking the latest GOP conspiracy theory... "The Jobers."

Having lost his leading stump speech talking point of unemployment being above 8% for over forty months, Romney seized on the "more people have stopped looking for work" which also has been debunked!  

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So Obama has officially brought the country back to where it was when he was first sworn in... and that is the death of Romney's second talking point... "Obama's policies have made the situation worse."

Sadly the MSNBC servers on this segment were having problems and right after the President speaks there is an audio drop out and one minute of black before the show continues, but the rest is good and debunks the whole "Jobs Truther" arguments that FOX is putting out there.

One very interesting point that comes up at the end is why Obama has not been pushing his American Jobs Act. That is a question that has bothered me too.

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The "Jobs Birthers" are going to lay this on thick in the days to come as it has taken over the news cycle and has the possibility of blunting President Obama's dismal debate performance.

Nate Sliver's 538 blog reports that there has been a Romney shift in the swing states and in one of the national polls, but it is too early to tell if the Romney bounce will last or the jobs numbers will kill it.

Oct. 5: Day After Debate, Strong Swing State Polls for Romney
By NATE SILVER

On Friday, Mitt Romney had his best day in state-level polling since at least the party conventions, something that very probably reflects improvement in his standing following the presidential debate in Denver on Wednesday.

Two automated polling firms, Rasmussen Reports and We Ask America, released polls in Ohio, Florida and Virginia on Friday. All of these polls were conducted on Thursday, the day after the Denver debate.

In the Rasmussen Reports polls, Mr. Romney trailed Barack Obama by 1 point in Ohio. But he led him by 1 point in Virginia and by 2 points in Florida.

Snip!

So it’s hard to distinguish a genuine shift toward Mr. Romney, from a real but potentially temporary shift based on changes in voter enthusiasm, from an artificial change caused by a bias toward heavy news consumers.

But now there’s another complication: the government reported a strong jobs report on Friday, which changed the tone of the news cycle. To the extent that the polls reflected people’s reaction to the news coverage of the debate as much as the debate itself, the jobs report could blunt some of Mr. Romney’s momentum if the tenor of news coverage changes.

The FiveThirtyEight forecast did show a clear shift toward Mr. Romney on Friday, giving him a 15.1 percent chance of winning the Electoral College — up from 12.9 percent on Thursday.

Lots more at the link:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

I'm not excusing Obama's poor debate performance but it is clear that he came equipped with counter arguments to the Mitt Romney we had seen on the campaign trail for over a year. In the debate, however, we saw Mitt Romney's real etch-a-sketch moment... and contradicting all of his previous espoused policies.

Klein and company do a great analysis of "The Birth of Moderate Mit."

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Yeah... Make Over Mitt caught Obama off-guard and flat footed, but Romney could only do this once without sounding like Monty Python's skit "You came here for an argument."

The Biden debate will also be pivotal for the campaign and the pundits are saying that this may be the most watched Vice President debate in election history. That may be hype but I have the feeling that after the Presidential debate they may be right.

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  •  I heard somebody say "Welchers" for a name (5+ / 0-)
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    Flint, moira977, exterris, Dobber, OooSillyMe
    The "Jobs Birthers" are going to lay this on thick in the days to come .......
    The "Welchers" seems like a better name for those people who were following the lead of Jack Welch.
  •  Wasn't that exciting that we didn't have (2+ / 0-)
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    smokey545, Flint

    to go to jail tonight after The Rachel Maddow Show? I know Lawrence O'Donnell doesn't do his show on Fridays. It would be awesome if they make this a regular feature of Ezra Klein guesting hosting on Friday nights.

    “Mitt Romney is the only person in America who looked at the way this Congress is behaving and said, ‘I want the brains behind THAT operation.’ ” — Tom Perriello

    by hungrycoyote on Sat Oct 06, 2012 at 12:58:59 AM PDT

  •  Jobberwackies. (3+ / 0-)
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    zhimbo, Dobber, Flint

    I suggest another name.  Jobberwackies.

  •  Democrats could score bigtime (3+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude, Kranman, Flint

    with a "Why are you cheerleading for bad news?" meme...the economic equivalent of "Why do you hate the troops?"

    Why do I suspect they'll pass up the opportunity for a direct, and possibly fatal hit...

    I can't believe our election is being decided by people who can't tell the difference between republicans and democrats...that's like letting a dog choose what color to paint your house.

    by PBJ Diddy on Sat Oct 06, 2012 at 03:12:36 AM PDT

  •  Funny how when the numbers were bad... (2+ / 0-)
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    zhimbo, Flint

    Obama was portrayed as some commie out to destroy America...

    And now that the numbers are good, Obama is portrayed as some commie out to destroy America....

    Just boggles the mind.

    "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." ~ Edward Abbey

    by SaraBeth on Sat Oct 06, 2012 at 03:43:37 AM PDT

  •  It's says a lot about the job birthers (0+ / 0-)

    that they just can't stand to see any success for our president and our country if it hurts them politically.  Also, I would like to ask them why they weren't so up in arms over all the politically convenient changes in the terror alerts during the Bush administration.

  •  The Job Truthers and the Poll Unskewers (0+ / 0-)

    are one and the same. Most of the followers are themselves mathematically innumerate. They do not understand how economic indicators work, nor how polling data is collected and analyzed. They rely on others (aka Fox News) to spoon-feed them talking points to go on. They don't even care whether the talking points are true. They are simply a tool to get rid of that half-black guy in office.

    Those who create these talking points are for the most part true believers in their cause. Even though they know the lie is a lie, they consider lying to be a legitimate strategy to win the election that only conservatives deserve to win. The logic is the same as right wing election fraud linked by an RNC that ordered state committees to hire a contractor to suppress the vote through fraudulent registration practices, voter ID laws intended to disenfranchise minorities, the elderly, students, and the poor, or voting machines that can be readily programmed to throw the vote to the red column.

    The only game of the numbers screamers is that when the numbers don't support you, they will claim it's because the numbers have been faked by the other side.

    I don't know what we should call them, but it needs to be more general than "job truthers", an issue that will completely evaporate within a week or two. How about "statistics deniers" or "arithmetic deniers"?

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