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Watching the Sunday News and there is a new add from Mitt Romney. The ad is such a lie I almost did a spit take of my coffee.

The add opens by saying "WHO IS GOING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES?"

it goes on to say that according to a NON PARTISAN study that  BO and the "liberals" were going to raise the taxes of the middle class by $4000, and that Mitt's plan not a cent!

If we want more information on this NON PARTISAN tax group, we are invited to go to American.com, the official news portal for the American Enterprise Institute

Now the real kicker when you read the "story" it is not really a new study, but is in fact a hit piece on why the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center analysis that says Mitt will raise taxes by $2000 on the middle class is really a lie.

Shameful - You cannot even defend your position, you can only muddy the waters to no one notices that we are going to screw you over.

http://american.com/...

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  •  There's a counter ad out to oppose that one. (9+ / 0-)

    It goes to say that the non-partisan review was chaired by Dick Cheney and a couple of other well known republicans.  So, it's not non-partisan and not true.

    •  Yep. As well as a former Bain guy..... (5+ / 0-)
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      drainflake77, bobsc, Supavash, elmo, basquebob

      .....and Newt Gingrich. Pretty hard hitting ad, which links Romney to Bushbots and Bain.

      Meet The Presstitutes was also pretty favorable to Obama this morning as well - had David Gregory stating that even the Simpson-Bowles commission was against the Romney tax plan and preferred Obama's.....and DG stated it TWICE.

      I see the tequila high from Romney's debate performance transforming into a hangover.

      "Because only three percent of you read books - and only fifteen percent of you read newspapers - but right now there is a whole and entire generation that didn't know anything that didn't come out of this tube." - Howard Beale

      by Audible Nectar on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 07:53:09 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I think the ads don't matter (4+ / 0-)
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    Ioo, InformedDiva, Supavash, xrighty

    Only the dumbest people don't realize almost every ad is full of lies. All Obama needs to do is hold his own in the next two debates.
    Romney's economic message really doesn't make sense anymore since the economy is moving in the right direction.

  •  That ad ran during every MTP break here in NoVa (2+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, Supavash

    It's pretty lame.

  •  Deja vu (4+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, grrr, Supavash, eXtina

    This campaign is unpleasantly reminiscent of Bush Jr's reign, pushing one awful thing out of the news with another and residing in such a total alternate reality that the general public is completely confused.  When Mitt told Obama he wasn't entitled to his own facts, that stale chestnut announced his plans going forward.  They will flagrantly lie and call anyone who corrects them liars.  And many in the general public who are not already on Team Asshole will have to give him credit because they cannot conceive a man so venal.  These are the genial low-info lot BHO is playing to--why he must assert his opponent has to ultimately be a good fellow.

    We need a fact check format for a debate, where questions in the latter half confront the candidates with their own direct quotes, press releases, and official campaign info.  This is the information age.  The debates as they are do not compare to either of the analogies usually made; they are not real debates or job interviews.  In an actual competitive debate or job interview, lies are disqualifying.  Your win is vacated, you will no longer be considered for the job.  But that would be real world consequences for something being played out in the entertainment division.

    •  exactly what we need (1+ / 0-)
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      Supavash

      (which is of course, why we'll never get it without a huge amount of pressure from grassroots)

      $ to DFA, none to DSCC/DCCC/DNC

      by grrr on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 08:42:48 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Just remind voters of the 47% video without saying (0+ / 0-)

      it, like "you can't say anything you want in public when we know what you tell your funders in private."

      This also reminds folks its not just what 1% says in private, its what he says to the rich who own him (and of which he is one) and the Thugs.  It re-inforces the best argument Ds have: economic populism (which also has the virtue of being both true and good policy atm).

  •  these guys live in la-la land (2+ / 0-)
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    grrr, elmo
    Specifically, Jensen pointed out that the exclusion of interest on state and local bonds and the exclusion of inside buildup on life-insurance products could yield more revenue.
    (1) If muni interest becomes taxable, state and local governments will have to pay a higher interest rate.  That means they'll need more revenue to support the higher borrowing costs.  And since state & local revenue streams are typically regressive, not progressive, that means the lower and middle classes will pay the lions share.  Mittens isn't reducing tax; he's just shifting it to other levels of government that are less able to tax equitably.

    (2) I doubt there is any thinking person in the world that thinks the Republicans would tax gains inside of insurance wrappers in the face of staunch opposition from the extraordinarily powerful insurance lobby.

    •  He's also outsourcing the costs of (0+ / 0-)

      Medicare and Medicaid. The voucher program shifts increasing healthcare costs onto seniors, and block grants of Medicaid to the states shifts the costs of those programs onto states...which ultimately means taxpayers in those states.

      Since so many seniors in long term nursing home care rely on Medicaid to cover the costs of that care, taxpayers in states with high populations of seniors (hello? Florida?) ought to be sitting up and paying close attention. Mitt Romney is trying to grab your wallets.

      •  sending it to the states (0+ / 0-)

        Romney's line about sending programs to the states is really mind numbing.  Half the states are broke.  He'd be sending programs to the states to manage their demise.  States' usual inability to tax for the sake of essential services is one of the things that's been wrecking public education for decades.  In a lot of places people would vote to shut their own water off if it were put to them as a tax proposal.

  •  Looks like they finally got the Rove memo. (2+ / 0-)
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    grrr, LNK

    "Always project onto your opponent your biggest Achilles Heel."

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  •  My answer to "BO Will Raisre Taxes..." (0+ / 0-)

    BO gives me GREAT VALUE for the money!

    Romney? Quite the opposite.
    He and his business friends are choking the life out of me with their "race to the bottom" practices!

    •  How bout: 'BO cuts taxes by thousands for 98%. (1+ / 0-)
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      LNK

      The best ev of what will do is what you've done.  1%, in contrast, raised fees and charges - taxes by another name -
      on every middle-class family when governor.'

      •  Agreed. I wish I were a good wordsmith (1+ / 0-)
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        chrismorgan

        I'm more like an encyclopedist.

        I could go on and on about how GOP and big biz don't give good value for money.

        Unfortunately, the way the human brain works....FACTS don't have enough of an effect. It's all about visceral and emotional messages which hook onto embedded stereotypes.

        •  Well, my trick is asking 'how would I say it if I (0+ / 0-)

          was trying to convince a sane Republican (and pre-emptively rebut the sloganeering of Thugs, which is all the others have)?'

          It turns out its really not that hard, bc the sane ones really aren't that different from me.  

          BTW, te corollary is: don't bother trying to understand or convince the nuts.  Birtherism?  Forget about proof.  They are racists hiding behind nationalitic xenophobia, just like the racists did regarding Chinese in the Western US in the late 1800s.  Lafferism? (Otherwise known as supply-side or 'taxcuts for the rich solves everything'- the old Robert Novak chestnut: Thugs exist to cut taxes.)  Just economic Royalists trying to create a New Aristocracy and opportunistic pols taking their cue from Alcebiades and toadying to the Oligarchs at the expense of Democracy.  (George Will and Newt, anyone?)

          If you try to understand these folks enough to 'win' them you'll only follow them down the rabbithole and risk never coming back.

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