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I heard some talking head on TV say President Obama can't call Mitt Romney a liar because that would make the President look crude and desperate.  To that I politely say: Bullsh!t!

Sometimes you have to call a liar a liar--especially when if his lies are left unchallenged he could become the next President of the United States of America.  Calling Romney a liar on behalf of the American people would make the President look like the beacon of truth and fairness that he really is.

Congressman Joe Wilson infamously interrupted President Obama by calling out to the President, "You lie!" when the President was speaking to a joint session of Congress in 2009 saying that his healthcare reform act wouldn't cover illegal immigrants.

Wilson went on to become a darling of the right, raised lots of money off his unprecedented insult and won reelection.  No doubt, he sparked his reelection bid by calling the President of the United States of America a liar.

Not only did Wilson reveal what a disrespectful lowlife he was and is, he also revealed his own ignorance.  Like the President was saying before being so rudely interrupted, his healthcare reform effort wouldn't apply to those in this country illegally.  According to PolitiFact.Com (http://www.politifact.com/...):  "...it seems that health reform leaves in place the status quo on illegal immigration, and certainly does not provide any new benefits particularly for illegal immigrants."

So in effect, the willfully ignorant Wilson lied when he called the President a liar.  Calling someone a liar who isn't a liar is a travesty because you're sullying their reputation under false pretenses.  It's quite another thing to call a liar a liar...as is the case with Romney and his running mate. They deserve to be called out and the President and Vice President must do so in the upcoming debates.

Here's the proof they're liars, unworthy of the American people's trust:  Fred Clark wrote an article highlighting how Washington Monthly contributing writer Steven Benen documented that Romney told more than 500 lies over a 30-week-period that ended around Aug. 29, 2012 (http://www.patheos.com/...).  I thought it was more like 1,000 lies, but wasn't counting. Not sure if anyone has been counting since August 29, but it's probable good old Mitt has told a couple hundred more whoppers since then.  

Anyway, here's an excerpt from Clark's article:

I’ve written about or linked to a great deal here “chronicling Mitt’s mendacity” — to borrow Steven Benen’s phrase.

Mitt Romney says many, many things that are not true. He says this despite being in possession of the correct facts of the matter.

Which is to say that Mitt Romney lies. A lot. He lies more than any other national candidate for office in my lifetime. And I was born before the Nixon administration.

Catch the Nixon comparison?

Anyway, here's a bit from one of Benen's articles posted to the Maddow Blog on Aug. 17, 2012 that chronicled Romney's lies:

8. In an interview with Fortune magazine, Romney said the president's stimulus measures "have not put Americans back to work."

Yes they have.

9. In the same interview, Romney said he would create jobs by "taking advantage of America's energy resources, particularly natural gas, as well as coal, oil, nuclear, solar, and wind."

Much of this is contradicted by Romney's own agenda. He opposes the wind production tax credit, no matter how many jobs it costs the nation, and has vowed to cut off investments in renewable energy programs (Romney has said wind and solar do not constitute "real energy.")

10. Romney went on to say, "A nation which is a highly productive nation as we are benefits by trade with others... The Obama administration has negotiated no new [trade] agreements."

Did Romney not hear about the trade agreements with Panama, Colombia, and South Korea?

11. Romney added, "We have to cut the deficit and get America on track to a balanced budget in order to convince investors that America is a good place to invest long term.... The president has done virtually nothing other than to propose a series of tax increases."

Actually, Obama proposed a massive, $4 trillion "grand bargain," most of which was made up of spending cuts. Congressional Republicans turned it down anyway.

12. Romney also said, "We're at a 30-year low in new business startups."

Still not true.

13. Romney went on to say, "I indicated as I announced my tax plan that the key principles included the following. First, that high-income people would continue to pay the same share of the tax burden that they do today."

At a minimum, this is ridiculously misleading. Under Romney's plan, high-income people would get an enormous tax break.

Those are just six of the hundreds of lies this man who would be President has told while trying to bamboozle us.  Sadly, thousands, if not millions of Americans appear to be buying his line of BS.

A man who lies like that needs to be called out like the reprobate that he truly is.  I know President Obama wants to remain above the fray and maintain his likability and dignity, but when engaged in a knife fight you have to bring your own sharp knife...and use it (figuratively speaking, of course).  There is no greater weapon against a lie than the truth.  A lie cannot stand against the truth.  If President Obama comes prepared to fight and brings the truth.  He'll knock Romney out faster than Mike Tyson put away Marvis Frazier.

I keep hearing how it's not Presidential or gentlemanly to call another man a liar.  I beg to differ.  It's a duty...a responsibility to challenge a liar with the truth and to hold him accountable for lying--especially if those lies stand to negatively impact the lives of others.  If the shoe fits, and it fits Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan like stink on sh!t, then they deserve to be called exactly what they are:  LIARS who say anything to sully the President, fool people and steal this election.

Now is not the time for being polite or Presidential.  Now is not the time to use the "rope-a-dope." Now is the time to come out swinging with the truth.  This is a brawl.  This is a knife fight.  This is like a take-no-prisoners street fight. This is a brawl. Did I say that already? I'm not saying the President needs to bite off somebody's ear, but he's gotta go Tyson on Romney.  Hit him hard early and often with the truth.

Put the script aside and attack that liar with his own lies like there's no tomorrow.  The same goes for VP Biden on Ryan.  They must go on offense DURING these debates...not the next day via attack ads, which have much less impact.  This is live TV.  It's now or never.  They've got to go to battle using the "L" word to describe Romney and Ryan with passion and gusto.  They've got to be fired up and ready to go from the jump.

Can't wait for Thursday night.

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Comment Preferences

  •  He doesn't have to call him a liar (1+ / 0-)
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    FiredUpInCA

    just say "he's flip flopping" then explain why.

    After about the tenth time of saying "he's flip flopping" the audience will understand that Mitt has so many different positions that the public doesn't know what the heck they'll be getting if they vote for him.

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    by Naturegal on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 05:57:38 PM PDT

  •  "Obama Calls Romney A Liar" (3+ / 0-)
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    VClib, sewaneepat, skod

    is a headline that Romney and the media want.

    That way the substance of Romney's claims never get scrutinized instead it gives the media an excuse to wax morally about how low the campaign has sunk and how both sides are engaged in the nastiest campaign they've ever seen.

    The President just needs to call out Mitt each time he tries to reinvent himself by saying "that's not what you said for the last 15 months" and let the voters decide he's a liar.

    If he calls him a liar that becomes the headline.

    Look what happened in the days before the "Beer Summit" when he called the policeman's actions "stupid."

    That's all the media talked about. They never addressed the racial profiling or if in fact the policeman's actions were stupid, they only talked about the President saying such a charged word as "stupid."

    The choice of our lifetime: Mitt Romney, It Takes A Pillage or President Barack Obama, Forward Together.

    by FiredUpInCA on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 06:00:17 PM PDT

  •  Uhhh, They'd Better Be Prepared for the Opponent (0+ / 0-)

    to call them "liar," directly, the entire night.

    Conservatives' sole response is escalation and they've already gone 100% lies themselves; the next  logical step is to call out POTUS and VPOTUS as liars, repeatedly.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 06:15:04 PM PDT

  •  To call him a liar..... (0+ / 0-)

    would imply he actually believes in something, and that would be a lie.

    You usually get what you paid for.

    by IowaMike on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 06:15:36 PM PDT

  •  I say go for it. (0+ / 0-)

    Romney called the President a Liar earlier this year. Just a few months ago. The taboo is broken.

    Also the press is begging for it. They keep asking "would you call it a lie" as if they're trying to get a big headline for their interview.

    Obama needs to do it. Not Biden. Obama. If he does that the headline immediately after will be Obama calls Romney a Liar and it will stick.

    We lose if we choose to forget; the lives of men, and money spent.

    by DeanDemocrat on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 06:16:54 PM PDT

    •  I wish Obama campaign (1+ / 0-)
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      FiredUpInCA

      would  explain these techniques to the the people when REps do them

      Clinton is good at this

      "see now they are going to call the President a Liar because that is what they do...they throw back at you what you say to muddle the truth of your initial charge..."

      This is why I think he should NOT call Romney a liar
      he needs to call out the LIES in the debate when they come at him.

      But let others call Romney a serial liar. Or he can say "You have lied more in this campaign more than any other candidate for President that I've seen...I think studies will show it is an unusual amount. I haven't know how to respond to it because I want to keep the conversation on the issues and it takes up time"

      History will show you Romney lie more than other candidates. People need to know this because they are evaluating if what you say right now is believable. It is less so if you keep changing what you say..

      PLEASE SOMEONE CALL ROMNEY OUT IN GENERAL

      DON"T say "you are a liar" without explaining the context of how bad he lies/differently

  •  if the President hesitates, Romney will ... (2+ / 0-)
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    gooderservice, skod

    call the President a liar and the headlines will be "Obama tries to defend himself against charge" and the media will be looking into all of the President's statements for any deviation from anything anybody else ever said.

    In other words, the President should get it in first. Republicans are famous for attacking Democrats for what they, themselves, are.

  •  Uh, no. (3+ / 0-)
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    mightymouse, jplanner, FiredUpInCA

    there are ways to do it without calling him a liar. Not only would that be the story, rather than substance, but it would be a turnoff to many voters. Humor would be a better technique.

    You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

    by sewaneepat on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 06:27:46 PM PDT

  •  Romney's a lesbian? (1+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude

    Would never have guessed.

    Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore

    by Minerva on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 06:42:56 PM PDT

  •  Obama is too nice to call Romney the "L" word. (0+ / 0-)
  •  call them out w/o the word "liar" (4+ / 0-)

    a little humor helps.

    An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

    by mightymouse on Wed Oct 10, 2012 at 07:13:16 PM PDT

  •  The best way to point out the lie involves (3+ / 0-)
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    Kwik, Lilith, FiredUpInCA

    three statements/questions.

    1. I (Obama) have made some mistakes and you might not always agree with me, but I've been consistent. You know where I stand. I have gotten more right than I've gotten wrong and we are better off than we were 4 years ago economically (7.8%, GM is alive) and in national security (Osama is dead).

    2. Governor Romney has not been consistent. Either he's changing his positions or he's telling lies (give example of contradiction). We know he says different things in "quiet rooms" than he does in public (47% etc.).

    3. If he has changed his position it seems a little too convenient. Are we supposed to believe that the things he promised his party in the primary ("severe conservative", tax cuts for the rich, abortion restrictions) are things he's leaving behind now? If he promises us that he's changed his position, do we believe him? If he hasn't changed his position, he's telling a lie to someone. It could be you. So, governor Romney... which is it?

  •  The line I always liked (1+ / 0-)
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    Kwik

    was one used by my grandfather who would never call someone was a liar.  Instead he would shake his head and politely say:
    "Mr. Romney handles the truth carelessly."

  •  Must call out lies immediately in moment to stop (1+ / 0-)
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    FiredUpInCA

    them from having any traction...but not sure calling him a liar as a person FROM OBAMA"S MOUTH would help. It might hurt.

    But I think he should say
    "I am sure you are informed enough to know that is a lie."
    "there is another lie'
    "there you go again, lying"

    the things he calls out he better pick very carefully in saying they are lies other wise HE"LL be caught later as lying and the audience will just loose all hope and believe no one including their POTUS.

    SOmeone...surrogates? Press?
    where the heck is HOWARD DEAN by the way!!!???
    campaign? Biden? probably not Obama needs to EXPLAIN what is in this diary

    That Romney's lies are WORSE Than the normal politician so you can't believe him. IT's been shown (have the data)

    THis needs to be a narrative ROMNEYS A LIAR in the campaign. Not that he lies. That he has a character Problem
    But Obama cannot do it. Serrogates need to...like Clinton did today partially.
    I would like Clinton to say that Romney lies more than any other politician he's known or knows of.
    Then maybe they could make a PAC ad

    that's my plan
    Obama can't label Romney but can label what he does
    Lies...not a liar...in a debate in front of everyone directly in real time.

    There needs to be a concerted effort by the left to expose Romney to those not paying attention as being different than any other politician ever.

    See, people hear about "This lie " or "that lie" that Romney lies a lot but many may thing "but dont' most politicians lie anyway?"

    It has not been explained to those who don't follow politics and only now tuning in that NO ROMNEY IS NOT NORMAL SO YOU HAVE TO TRUST ANYTHING HE SAYS LESS.

    They don't know they have to trust whatever he says less because the lable of "lies more than normal politicians" HAS NOT been stuck to him.

    Hope they have a plan. They let him get away with it far too long. I think they over estimated what the average person has been paying attention to before now. And they didn't get that the reason Obama was doing better than expected in a bad economy was that Romney did not seem to the moderates to be viable/reasonable.  Those people start tuning in more at the debates...first debate...now. Obama left them with the wrong impression left them with the idea that Romney might be reasonable...because he did not call him out (nor did the moderator) on the lies. We are seeing people give Romney a second look. Either Mitt's campaign is suddenly brilliant in their calculations and timing, or just lucky.

    hope it's ok this is so long

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