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2012 Presidential debates
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6:51 PM PT: More clock cleaning from Biden—slamming Romney for on 60 Minutes saying it's fair for him to pay a lower tax rate than a guy making $50,000 per year.

6:54 PM PT: Paul Ryan is giving the longest answer ever to why he won't answer the question. (On how they would pay for Romney's 20 percent across the board tax cut.)

6:54 PM PT:
"Oh, now you're Jack Kennedy?" huge cheers break out at dkos HQ
@markos via TweetDeck

6:55 PM PT: Now Paul Ryan complaining about the looming defense cuts that he voted for.

6:56 PM PT:
REAL TIME SURVEY: Ryan getting thumped by Biden in first half hour
@HuffPostPol via The Huffington Post

6:57 PM PT: From the Obama campaign's head of rapid response research:

Unbelievable- pressed repeatedly on whether he could promise Romney wouldn't raise taxes on middle class, Ryan refused to answer.
@Lis_Smith via web

6:58 PM PT: Trending now on Twitter: #factsmatter and #malarkey.

Ryan now tries to wAlk away from $2 trillion defense increase Romney proposed.
@davidaxelrod via Twitter for iPhone

7:00 PM PT: Bad night for Boy Ryan:

I follow a lot of prominent conservative voices on Twitter. None of them seem to think this is going well. They're blaming the ump.
@adambonin via web

7:01 PM PT (Kaili Joy Gray): New thread here.

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