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  • Reddit's biggest "troll" is unmasked.
  • The Endeavor space shuttle made its way through the streets of Los Angeles on its way to its final home at the Air and Space Museum. It's a bit odd to see pictures of a space shuttle driving down the streets of Los Angeles...
  • Climate change hasn't come up as an issue at either the first Presidential debate or the only Vice-Presidential debate. Not like it's a big deal or anything. 2012 is only likely to be the hottest year on record. Nothing to see here, move along.
  • This is Romney's America:
    The Presidential Candidate holds major stock in a company called Sensata. The company recently made factory officials take down the American flag when they were forced to train their Chinese replacement workers, according to Tom Gaulrapp, with the United Steelworkers Union.

    Right now in Freeport, Illinois, some 170 workers at an auto sensor plant are sleeping in tents to protest Bain-owned Sensata Technology’s decision to ship their jobs to China.

    Romney claims he knows nothing about this.

    The President's entire campaign needs to turn this into a massive haymaker. Romney's outsourcing of American jobs to China is one thing; but forcing workers to take down their American flags in order to train their Chinese replacement workers? That cuts to the emotional quick.
  • The New York Times exposes the myth of Moderate Mitt:
    From the beginning of his run for the Republican nomination, Mr. Romney has offered to transfigure himself into any shape desired by an audience in order to achieve power. In front of massed crowds or on television, he can sound sunny and inclusive, radiating a feel-good centrism. His “severely conservative” policies and disdain for much of the country are reserved for partisans, donors and the harsh ideologues who clutter his party’s base. This polarity is often described as “flip-flopping,” but the word is too mild to describe opposing positions that are simultaneously held.

    The best way to judge candidates is not by the popular way they describe their plans near the end of a campaign; it is by the most divisive presentations of themselves earlier on. A candidate’s political calculations when fewer people are watching is likely to say far more about character than poll-tested pleasantries in the spotlight.

  • California has its own equivalent of the Koch brothers. They're called the Mungers, and they're trying to rewrite California's lawbook as they and their fellow billionaires see fit. Be wary of them.
  • In more global-warming-related news, turns out that all this drought and heat ain't some random coincidence:
    The worst drought in half a century has plagued two-thirds of the nation, devastating farms and stoking wildfires that scorched almost 9 million acres this year. Withering heat blanketed the East Coast and Midwest, killing scores of people and making July the hottest month ever recorded in the U.S. And in the Arctic this summer, polar snow and ice melted away to the smallest size ever observed by man.

    Extreme events like drought, heat waves, intense rainfall, flooding and fires have prompted many people to reconsider the connection between the weather and the changing climate. Now, a handful of scientists are among them.

    In a break with the mainstream scientific consensus, a few prominent climate scientists now argue that there have been enough episodes of drought and intense heat in the last 10 years to establish a statistical pattern of extreme weather due to global warming.

    Glad to know we're getting that cleared up. Maybe we can actually talk about it on the campaign sometime?
  • digby, of course:
    Foreign policy is for the birds. Of course, just five years ago it was the only thing worth talking about. When Republicans wanted to talk about it. Now it's all about taxes and spending. Oddly, that's what Repubicans want to talk about now too.

    This is not to say that I wouldn't welcome a debate on the economy, jobs, income inequality, education, climate change, immigration and women's rights among a dozen other important topics. But the fiscal cliff? It's a phony crisis that only plays into the hands of the deficit hysterics who are determined to use any excuse they can to cut the hell out of our already tattered safety net. The differences between the two parties are so infinitesimal on this anyway that all we'd have is a hour of bullshit designed to make the voters forget about the fact that they are getting screwed by millionaires and worry instead about fiscal phantoms. No thanks.

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  •  The race to war with Iran requires (3+ / 0-)
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    msm propaganda so watch closely now , remembering how they did it for Iraq and Afghanistan.  

    Move Single Payer Forward? Join 18,000 Doctors of PNHP and 185,000 member National Nurses United

    by divineorder on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 12:04:19 PM PDT

  •  Romney picked a bad day to bring up china (9+ / 0-)

    we need to find ways to help keep this Sensata story out there

    i was looking at the msnbc story romney complaining about obama's china policy. the article didnt mention Sensata , but it was there in the comments. we need to work this

    if it were  a repup we would never hear the end of it

    "With malice toward none, with charity for all..." -Abraham Lincoln not a modern republican

    by live1 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 12:07:47 PM PDT

  •  Challenges (1+ / 0-)
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    Share this: http://OFA.BO/...
    Tweet this: http://OFA.BO/...

    "Every president inherits challenges, few have faced so many. Four years later our enemies have been brought to justice. Our heroes are coming home. Assembly lines are humming again—there are still challenges to meet, children to educate, a middle class to rebuild but the last thing we should do is turn back now."

    http://www.youtube.com/...

    It is a terrible thing to see and have no vision. ~ Helen Keller

    by Pam from Calif on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 12:08:13 PM PDT

  •  Face book is starting to spread the LIKE if you (3+ / 0-)
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    AGREE pictures that lazy stupid people shouldn't get food stamps or welfare.  

    Of course those same people think that if you need welfare you are lazy and stupid.

    I will not deny that there probably some people who get food stamps and welfare who are lazy and stupid.  But I don't think they should die.  And hurting them will result in much unexpected collateral damage.  The lazy and stupid will always be with us, denial of food and shelter will not make anyone smart and energetic.

    I give the Big Bird to those who say Obama lost the debate.

    by 88kathy on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 12:08:55 PM PDT

    •  Some people are incompetant. Some of these (1+ / 0-)
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      people are employed on Wall Street because they are either good talkers or like to play with numbers. Personally, I'm quite happy to subsidize their life-style, as long as their need to play with money doesn't keep the rest of us from using it.
      Money is a token.  Money is an aide memoire.

      We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

      by hannah on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 12:36:31 PM PDT

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    •  Some things you can do to people. (1+ / 0-)
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      Love them, hate them, ignore them, kill them, break them, enslave them, help them or exploit them. One thing you seldom can do is change them. Yet many have this strange idea that they can. They can "teach them a lesson". Ha.  

      We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance.

      by PowWowPollock on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:10:31 PM PDT

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  •  If Romney is elected (6+ / 0-)

    you can expect every US agency that monitors climate change to be eliminated. You will simply no longer hear anything about climate change.

    •  Reuters and the Guardian in English. (2+ / 0-)
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      America is not the world, and America is getting to be less and less central with respect to what really matters in the world overall. Europe will fill in the information that we are ignoring.

      The decline in American importance in the world is in large part a direct result of the American conservative movement in our politics.

       I blame Reagan and the two Bushes. They have hung our national power on military force when the basis of national power is now economics and scientific. The idiot conservatives shut down the Super Conducting Super Collider in Waxahatchie, TX in the  early 90's because it somehow was costing too much. So CERN in Switzerland discovered the Higgs Boson particle twenty years later. America is walking away from world influence and power so fast it might be considered a dead run, and the excuse it the idiot deficit hawks and the Koch brothers and their wealthy allies.

      We are reducing our education facilities. We have been converting the economy to the economically sterile crap of banking instead of actually building things (we graduate lawyers instead of engineers - what a frigging waste of talent!!) We try to decentralize the economy and remove governments' ability to study and publish predictions regarding where investments would best be placed under the idiocy of saying "Government shouldn't be picking winners and losers!" But no one else has the power to collect and analyze the necessary information and publish it!!

      And this quick, short list of idiocies from the conservatives is just off the top of my head. There are thousands of similar stories regarding how America is walking away from the future because the conservatives fear the changes!

      The worst of the conservatives are the libertarians and other religious nuts. Romney, of course, appeals to both. They want ideology to replace science and study. That will be a failed strategy, and the conservatives like the communist ideologues of the USSR will work very hard to find someone else to blame for the crap they are causing. Ideologues always fail society. Always. It's just a question of time before their failure is recognized, and they will refuse to accept responsibility.

      The US Supreme Court has by its actions and rhetoric has ceased to be legitimate. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

      by Rick B on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 02:26:14 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  30-day rolling average (1+ / 0-)
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    Found this, Gallup employment figures interesting. Trajectory is nice.

    Once you figure out they are lying to you about race, you start to question everything. —molly ivins

    by fumie on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 12:18:05 PM PDT

  •  my local limbaugh station doing a lot of GW denial (2+ / 0-)

    i don't know if it's a trend nationally but it's been getting a series of climate 'expert' deniers. they're regular on RW talk radio but recently there may be more.

    Marita Noon for instance, a regular, who claims objectivity because she wasn't burdened with years of scientific training. then Ann McElhinney, (heritage foundation) and so on.

    Ann McElhinney does GW denial and anti green documentaries. i was able to call in among the worshippers (who knows how many paid callers)  and said this: "you should be getting paid millions by the fossil fuels industry for your work, convincing lots of idiots that 95% of the world's scientists are wrong". then i got cut off and she, a staff member of the heritage foundation, denied getting funding for her 'documentaries' from fossil fuels industry.

    they may be making the rounds, helping pump that pac money into the radio stations.

    then the local GOP candidates come on to get votes and callers call in, and there's no way they're going to say anything other than global warming is a hoax or exaggeration. which is what i heard  a candidate for PRC say recently, whether he wanted to or not.

    and our universities are talk radio biggest supporters.

    This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and partisan lying by broadcasting sports on Limbaugh radio stations.

    by certainot on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 12:24:21 PM PDT

  •  All about money. It's a tool. It should not be (1+ / 0-)
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    We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 12:26:27 PM PDT

  •  Yet another GOP "Plumber" (4+ / 0-)

    http://thinkprogress.org/...

    Oklahoma’s Biggest Stimulus Hypocrite Tapped To Deliver GOP’s Weekly Address

    Oklahoma congressional candidate Markwayne Mullin, the Republican nominee to replace retiring Rep. Dan Boren (D), has openly criticized President Obama’s economic stimulus package throughout his campaign. The stimulus was a “horrible waste of taxpayer dollars,” said Mullin, who will give the GOP’s national address this weekend.

    Mullin’s plumbing company, however, received $370,000 in stimulus funding, the Associated Press found last month:

       A review of stimulus spending by The Associated Press shows companies owned by Markwayne Mullin received the money under contracts with the Cherokee and Muscogee (Creek) nations.

        The payments were for plumbing at tribal housing projects and funded through the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development.

    Mullin responded to the story by asserting that he wasn’t aware that the contracts came from the stimulus, and that “plumbing is plumbing.” Had he known the money came from the stimulus, Mullin said, he probably wouldn’t have submitted a bid to work the project. Documents from the Cherokee Nation, however, revealed that Mullin’s firm was aware that the funding came from the stimulus.

    The 1st Amendment gives you the right to say stupid things, the 1st Amendment doesn't guarantee a paycheck to say stupid things.

    by JML9999 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 12:27:31 PM PDT

  •  I Used to Live in Freeport, IL. Time for Obama to (5+ / 0-)

    get his ass to Freeport.  Freeport is 22 miles west of Rockford, Illinois, on U.S. Route 20.  Freeport has been bleeding jobs for 20 years.  That Sensata is being Bained is bad enough, but the fact that Bain made the employees on the block remove the American flag is potentiall a game changer.  If Obama or Biden do not go there, a ripe and rich chance to knock out Willard will be lost.  

    Even though, Illinois will go for Obama, the message potential re: Sensata is too powerful to pass up.  Ed Schultz has been doing this story for weeks.  Think of it:

    Bain
    Outsourcing
    China
    Flag

    Romney will make money from this closing because he still has stock or ownership in Bain.  

    Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze, Axelrod!  Get a goin'!

  •  Would you believe I found a republican (0+ / 0-)

    telling the truth.

    You can make a lovely hat out of previously-used aluminum foil.

    by reddbierd on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 12:28:13 PM PDT

  •  Damn. (1+ / 0-)
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    annieli

    Now I wanna drive the shuttle down Wilshire!

    We've been wondering how to get through the clutter and reach low-information voters. Mitt haz it.

    by Crashing Vor on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 12:29:42 PM PDT

  •  Predditor tumblr wrong but anti-redditors campaign (0+ / 0-)

    "Samantha" and the anti-creepshots, anti-reddit campaign have been irresponsible, riling up a mob on the internet, posting the personal details of people who may or may not be guilty of any imagined crimes and encouraging harassment and violence against people who might have and aesthetic they disagree with.

    Samantha also disrupted a system of moderation similar to what she hoped reddit would someday put in place.

    Anyway, the success of Chen and the groups using reddit to organize and take down reddit are interesting, even if their tactics are wrong-headed and dangerous.

    A massive shift in political traffic was mentioned by many political blogs, and the value of collective work on the internet to take down and enemy or another group was shown. I wish I knew a group that could work with the same coherence and cohesiveness to takedown Wall Street or the black money fueled campaign of Adelson and the Kochs. We need a new reddit, and Gawker is obviously over, too. The Digg is not worth anyone's time, but its funny that digg's failure was the source of reddit's rise and that Chen was pimping digg (no only with uprates!) to get more eyeballs on his irresponsible piece.

    •  What 'Samantha' said vs. vilolentacrez role (0+ / 0-)

      What the militant Samantha said:

      "One of the leaders of these "people" is Samantha*, a 25-year-old Redditor who recently launched Predditors, a collection of incriminating personal information — photos, social media accounts, screencaps of CreepShots posts — that she plans on using to "out" Redditors whom she considers sexual predators. One day, she hopes, the site will allow users to report men to a select group of moderators, who will then investigate and verify claims and report the worst offenders to the appropriate local authorities.
      What the article says violentacrez's role was:
      For all his unpleasantness, they realized that Violentacrez was an excellent community moderator and could be counted on to keep the administrators abreast of any illegal content he came across.
      Oops!
  •  The Reddit thing (6+ / 0-)

    is the perfect example of bullies crying victim when called to account.  According to Reddit, "free speech" includes posting of body-part photos of women and (clothed-but-sexualized) underage girls without their knowledge or consent.  But when free speech is used to publish the name and image of the guy behind it - gosh, that's completely different!

    I shall die, but that is all that I shall do for Death; I am not on his payroll. - Edna St. Vincent Millay

    by Tara the Antisocial Social Worker on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 12:37:59 PM PDT

    •  advocating violence vs. people you disagree with? (0+ / 0-)

      That's not Obama's approach:

      in 2012, at a time when anyone with a cell phone can spread offensive views around the world with the click of a button, the notion that we can control the flow of information is obsolete.  The question, then, is how do we respond?

      And on this we must agree:  There is no speech that justifies mindless violence.

      ...

      the strongest weapon against hateful speech is not repression; it is more speech -- the voices of tolerance that rally against bigotry and blasphemy, and lift up the values of understanding and mutual respect.

      President Barack Obama at the United Nations General Assembly
      •  "Advocating violence?" (3+ / 0-)

        I said nothing about advocating violence.

        I'm using free speech to criticize.  People who don't agree with you are allowed to do that.

        I shall die, but that is all that I shall do for Death; I am not on his payroll. - Edna St. Vincent Millay

        by Tara the Antisocial Social Worker on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:02:03 PM PDT

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      •  Who's advocating violence? (4+ / 0-)

        Comment simply points out the irony of someone who spends his time exposing people now whining about being exposed himself.

        "...you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem." Mitt Romney

        by Catte Nappe on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:11:44 PM PDT

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        •  Many of the Operation Panda / SRS / tumblr reblogs (0+ / 0-)

          Read through those comments, many of them are obviously federal crimes, internet threats and domestic terrorism.

          The SRS folks are obviously violating reddit's terms in doxxing people, are encouraging people to lash out at them, and in "Samantha's" lashing out at people who were removing the worst posts, had been providing a service to site administrators and authorities she hoped might exist at some point in the future, etc.

          Tumblr is as "bad" as reddit... but that's another weird problem. Operation Panda and Dworkin apparently agreed to focus for more than a month in taking down Reddit at any cost to others or themselves... it's just a mob mentality that's not progressive or feminist, just toxic reactivity towards an aesthetic they don't like, where as people of walmart or posting pics of anonymous strangers fashion mistakes on the street would be okay.

          •  You appear pretty involved in *their* meta (0+ / 0-)

            I certainly am not, and I suspect Tara isn't either. Whether she is or not, she didn't deserve getting slammed for "advocating violence" in her comment here.

            "...you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem." Mitt Romney

            by Catte Nappe on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:58:23 PM PDT

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            •  It's clear in the Jezebel articles (0+ / 0-)
              will Redditors want to take photos of unsuspecting girls and women if they know they might actually face IRL repercussions, regardless of whether they've committed a criminal offense?
              I want to make sure that the people around these men know what they're doing so they can reap social, professional, or legal consequences, and possibly save women from future sexual assault. These men are dangerous.
              Regardless of whether these reddit users were doing something illegal, "Samantha", Chen and others at Gawker and in Project Panda  want these people who have been doxxed to be stalked, harassed, bullied and assaulted.

              Rewarding Chen and Gawker with more links and traffic is irresponsible. Supposedly 'Samantha' reported some of this content, much of which was not even pornographic to various "authorities" including schools and employers. Not getting satisfaction - perhaps because few if any of these people (with one spectacular exception) were doing what Samantha imagined they necessarily must be doing - they are rapists, or future rapists - she is inviting the largest number of people to do exactly what high school peers of that girl who just killed herself after leaving a chilling youtube video did - to bully, stalk, and assault.

              Not progressive, not lawful, not feminist... just more mob mentality, like what "Innocence of Muslims" was designed to provoke, this is the same spirit.

          •  Project Panda, whatever (0+ / 0-)

            It will be useful to have noted how this all happened, and someday I hope the two factions of that part of the internet can spend time together, share a meal, listen to each other instead of just fight - but the very different and threatening aesthetics of these groups - creepy geeks and macho rad fems - are part of why occupy couldn't hold together, and the threats of violence for taking pics of people in public thing reminds me of how black bloc types threatened and attacked occupy media and livestreamers in Occupy Oakland.

            It would be neat to see this intense online organizing capacity be used to end drone strikes and build up the lives of women in girls in Af/Pak or to fully fund UNICEF and UNFPA or something.

            Maybe in the next life. Obviously trolls and the would-be troll hunters love combat and are taking world of warcraft or similar online personas into the real world. It's a shame, perhaps theyhave so much traffic and can make silly thing relevent, but it is not an accident. Understand it.

    •  Chen piece pinnacle of 30-days dishonest campaign (0+ / 0-)

      A Dworkin-lead attack on "porn" as "creepy" likely to extend to other areas, and attack by some users on the whole site, which may have some value: the SRS over-use of "creepy" is imprecise, subjective, propagandic, and regressive.

  •  More on Freport, Illinois (5+ / 0-)

    Tom Gaulrapp is the mayor of Freeport.  He's not just a steelworker.

    Also, the former congressman is Don Manzullo, a Republican right winger who was ambushed in the primary by none other than Eric Cantor, whose hand-picked tea partier sent Manzullo packing behind all kinds of super pac dough.  Manzullo was the kind of winger who once chained himself to lamposts outside the Rockford abortion clinic.  

    Bad shit is going down in the Freeport hood.

    Obama could possibly achieve a knockout Tuesday if he elaborates on the Sensata story at the debate.  He should shove it all right up Willard's ass: Bain, Bain vulturism, China, outsourcing, tax breaks for the filthy rich, 47 %, killing the middle class.  Big O should be relentless on this and make Romney sick of hearing about it.  

  •  The Reddit Troll is Michael Brutch (1+ / 1-)
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    of Arlington Texas. He's a professional Linux and MS SQL programmer. His resume is located at http://www.mbrutsch.com/

    It took me two minutes to find this with his name and town. It took me longer to decide whether I should post this.

    The US Supreme Court has by its actions and rhetoric has ceased to be legitimate. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

    by Rick B on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 12:51:45 PM PDT

    •  The linked article already posted name/town (1+ / 0-)
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      citizenx

      Photograph, too. As well as a summary of a lengthy phone conversation with him, and commentary from others on Reddit. You haven't posted any dark secrets.

      "...you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem." Mitt Romney

      by Catte Nappe on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:09:13 PM PDT

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    •  I didn't want to know this. (0+ / 0-)

      I wish you hadn't posted it.  

    •  I'm HRing this, but I want to tell you why (0+ / 0-)

      I'm HRing this, and I want to tell you why.

      What the Redditor in question did was creepy, disgusting, gross. There is little debate about that. But what he was doing is legal.

      Posting his information on the internet and outing him for the world to see - inviting physical, real-world repercussions (including violence) is also creepy, disgusting, and gross. And it may be illegal.

      Look, we all agree (I'm sure) that what he posted - his content - was gross and inappropriate. As a Redditor myself, I'm glad Reddit banned him. Reddit has an obligation to its users and to society in general to weed out content that the majority of the planet finds distasteful. Especially stuff that is potentially exploitative of children, even if it is (strictly speaking) legal.

      But posting a person's private info on one of the most heavily-trafficked sites on the web strictly because you disagree with what he said is fucking despicable.

      Imagine a Right Wing site going onto the r/Gaymers subreddit or coming here to one of our beloved gay sub-communities and starting to publicly "dox" and out kids who post there because they find homosexuality to be creepy, disgusting, and gross. Kossites (myself included) would collectively flip our shit over that, and rightfully so.

      Did we learn nothing from the Weatherdude outing incident a few months back?

      IT'S NOT OK TO OUT PEOPLE WHO AREN'T BREAKING THE LAW WHO WANT TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS ON THE WEB.

      I almost never hand out donuts, but I will always, always, ALWAYS HR people who post the personal, private info of people who wish to remain anonymous. Even if they do a bad job of trying to remain anonymous.

      "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

  •  Flip-flopping (4+ / 0-)

    really doesn't describe it.  Even "liar" might not cover it.  Romney is a man, on the verge of possibly becoming President, without principles and without policies, who just says whatever he thinks is best to say at any given moment, with no apparent connection to what he really believes, if anything.

    I have never seen any other major candidate quite like this one.  The man seems to have no actual ideas, but he desperately wants to be in charge.  Other than ego trip, it's hard to figure why.

  •  I know this makes me sound incredibly naive... (1+ / 0-)
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    especially when I think I have been around the block a few times.

    but I had never heard of any of this before today.

    thank you for enlightening us.

    It's very sick and sad that people spend their time doing these things.

    "I want us to live up to her expectations. I want our democracy to be as good as she (Christina Taylor-Greene) imagined it." President Obama

    by guavaboy on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:03:26 PM PDT

  •  Anyone hear about Joe the Plummer... (4+ / 0-)

    That he skipped his debate this past week?  The Democrat showed up, but Joe was nowhere to be found.

    I heard it on the radio yesterday morning.

  •  How bad would a Romney Presidency be? (1+ / 0-)
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    drmah
    "From the beginning of his run for the Republican nomination, Mr. Romney has offered to transfigure himself into any shape desired by an audience in order to achieve power."
    Mitt was trained (brainwashed) as a missionary in the Mormon practice of Lying for the Lord. His entire political run for President has been a series of telling various audiences what he thinks they want to know. Does he even have a core belief, or is he entirely a person ready to please they last audience he spoke to?

    It's my personal belief that he does has core beliefs, and those core beliefs all revolve around converting America and the world to Mormonism. He is an immediate direct descendant of an apostle to Joesph Smith, Jr. He is the Mormon equivalent of a Catholic bishop who is a member of the college of cardinals. Such people are selected carefully for their faithfulness and motivation to convert the unwashed masses - that's me and the rest of us.

    There's a reason why he does not deal with with foreign governments. He is motivated to convert them, not understand or work with them. His gaffs with the British government during the Olympics were a dead give-away. A diplomat or American President needs to understand the motivation of allies and enemies. Mitt understands neither.

    Mitt is motivated to defeat his enemies and convert his allies to Mormonism. The conversion process is for him a numbers game where a very few wins outweigh a lot of losses. Only get one in 500? That's success for conversion and for Mitt.That's how he has been able to persevere in the face of repeated failure.  The missionary training teaches that.

    But an American President has to convince our allies to work with America regardless of their religious beliefs or other motivations. Mitt has no ability to focus on getting such reluctant allies to work with America and he has no staff capable of stepping outside the Bush era neoConservative line. Nor would he listen to or comprehend any such staff who did present ideas of how to work with non-Mormons.

    If Mitt Romney is elected President he will make Andrew Johnson look like a much better President. At the moment Andrew Johnson is the nadir of American Presidents, a President who even George W. Bush has not matched as an odious occupant of that office.  

    The US Supreme Court has by its actions and rhetoric has ceased to be legitimate. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

    by Rick B on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:24:27 PM PDT

  •  Dang I was late getting here! (2+ / 0-)
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    citizenx, Catte Nappe

    anyway, what's up with the "new" Obama-Biden signs. Has anyone noticed how small the names are?  Little teeny names in a big blue sea.  Kinda like "hey look a me" (tiny munchkin voice). I really think they suck. He ought to fire the genius that designed these.......just sayin.....

    "If fighting for a more equal and equitable distribution of the wealth of this country is socialistic, I stand guilty of being a socialist." Walter Reuther

    by fugwb on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:26:40 PM PDT

  •  Where is the backup? (0+ / 0-)
    The Presidential Candidate holds major stock in a company called Sensata. The company recently made factory officials take down the American flag when they were forced to train their Chinese replacement workers, according to Tom Gaulrapp, with the United Steelworkers Union.
    I looked around on the internet for news about Sensata.  There's a FB thing going around that shows the CHINESE factory with a Chinese flag in the middle and the US flag to the left if you're facing the building, but it is NOT the Illinois building.  

    I can't find any articles or pictures that they actually took the flag down?  

    If this really happened, we need to get it out there with the Sensata story, but we don't want to look silly by saying something that didn't happen - the Sensata story by itself should be enough to make people NOT vote for Romney...

    "Focusing your life solely on making a buck shows a certain poverty of ambition. It asks too little of yourself. Because it's only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential." - Barack Obama

    by Ricochet67 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:49:14 PM PDT

    •  We already do look silly (0+ / 0-)

      Due to a recced diary that reported (erroneously) that the company not only removed the American flag when the Chinese employees were being trained, but also flew the Chinese flag in its place. That's partly why the pic of the Chinese factory is floating all over the internets. However, the removal of the American flag seems to be less contested. There is a quote from a Sensata worker:

      "The week before they came they took the American flag down outside the plant. The week after they left they put it back up."
       He says it at about 1:30 in the video on this Truth Out article.
      http://truth-out.org/...

      "...you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem." Mitt Romney

      by Catte Nappe on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 02:09:42 PM PDT

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      •  if they did take down the american flag why does (0+ / 0-)

        silly? its true

        "With malice toward none, with charity for all..." -Abraham Lincoln not a modern republican

        by live1 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 02:15:25 PM PDT

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        •  If they took down the flag (0+ / 0-)

          That should be bad enough, right? But it wasn't enough for folks who want to gin up more outrage.

          What made us look silly was the further contention that they replaced it with a Chinese flag. That version is what is making the rounds, despite the fact that it is not true. That untruth will give grounds for people to ignore the parts of the story that are true - and provide some fuel for "both sides do it" accusations of "truthiness".

          "...you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem." Mitt Romney

          by Catte Nappe on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 02:24:35 PM PDT

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  •  Please help me see how there (0+ / 0-)

    is anything to the Sensata story.  Biggest problem:  Romney does not work at Bain now.  He didnt work there when these decisions were made.  It's a little like blaming Obama for the job losses of 2009, isn't it?  

    Still enjoying my stimulus package.

    by Kevvboy on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 02:08:05 PM PDT

    •  he still gets money from bain (0+ / 0-)

      "With malice toward none, with charity for all..." -Abraham Lincoln not a modern republican

      by live1 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 02:16:22 PM PDT

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    •  Romney still personally profits (0+ / 0-)

      His "visually impaired", but not "legally blind" trust benefits hugely from these decisions. However, Romeny refuses to speak to the workers who requested ameeting, or about the outsourcing decision.
      http://www.nytimes.com/...

      "...you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem." Mitt Romney

      by Catte Nappe on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 02:19:38 PM PDT

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      •  Agreed that everything (0+ / 0-)

        Bain does is bad but not sure you can blame its current actions on Romney.  Of course he still owns stock in the company.  He founded it.

        I just dont think it has legs, not that there is anything bad about reminding people about Bain.

        Still enjoying my stimulus package.

        by Kevvboy on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 03:02:09 PM PDT

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        •  Agreed, we can't blame him for their action (2+ / 0-)
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          ratcityreprobate, Kevvboy

          We can blame him for his response, though. Running around ranting about China and losing jobs, but staying silent when a specific example of that problem is right under his nose - one that will be personally profitable to him. Obviously, he can't adn won't say what should be said, but we can rub his nose in it.

          "...you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem." Mitt Romney

          by Catte Nappe on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 03:36:02 PM PDT

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  •  Poll sighting mothership (1+ / 0-)
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    Catte Nappe

    The proposal, given that we seem to be getting a lot of poll sightings reports, is that there is a single location on the recommended list, etc etc etc, for all the usual reasons.

    This is outside my time or region of competence to create.

    I would consider making this comment a diary but it is, like, too short.

    We can have change for the better.

    by phillies on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 02:14:05 PM PDT

  •  Will he or won't he? (0+ / 0-)

    " The company recently made factory officials take down the American flag when they were forced to train their Chinese replacement workers, according to Tom Gaulrapp, with the United Steelworkers Union."

    The big question is:  Will Obama go after Romney like a pit bull over this dishonor to our country, or will he curl up in Romney's lap like a lap dog?

    •  Those the only two choices, you think? (0+ / 0-)

      Nothing between those extremes?

      "...you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem." Mitt Romney

      by Catte Nappe on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 02:27:01 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Digby's right (0+ / 0-)

    I support Obama anyway but the range of debate in this country is ridiculous.  The only part of American exceptionalism I can but is that the history of the country is exceptionally skewed towards individualism and plutocracy, at least exceptionally so for 2012.

    In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act--Orwell

    by jhannon on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 03:17:21 PM PDT

  •  I clicked the link about the troll (0+ / 0-)

    I wish I hadn't. I had never heard of Reddit. I'm old and don't use social media. I'm not likely to at this stage. Yuk.
    (I am used to trolls on science blogging sites, but I am out of my league with this stuff)

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