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Tammy Baldwin talking to constituents in July, 2012 campaign stop.
Tammy Baldwin, the Right's latest monster.
This is what desperation on the Right stinks like. Here's the Washington Times, apoplectic at the prospect of Democrat Tammy Baldwin winning a Senate seat in Wisconsin and urging Tommy Thompson to make Baldwin's sexual orientation the issue of the campaign.
Ms. Baldwin has made no secret of her lesbian lifestyle. She is a vocal supporter of gay pride and the LGBT community. She told the liberal Huffington Post that her Senate candidacy is historic. Ms. Baldwin stressed that “breaking through these glass ceilings has a ripple effect.” In other words, her election would—and should—encourage other avowed gays and lesbians to enter high office. She sees herself as the tip of the spear for the LGBT community—a relentless advocate for homosexual issues. She attacks traditional marriage. She led the fight to repeal the ban on gays openly serving in the military. She consistently assaults our Judeo-Christian heritage. [...]

[...] Ms. Baldwin’s success so far has been due to her ability to mask her hard left-wing views. She is portraying herself as a moderate liberal. In fact, she is a radical feminist who champions gay marriage, abortion on demand, government-funded contraception and war on religious freedom. She is the Sandra Fluke of Wisconsin politics—a postmodern socialist who wants government to underwrite birth control pills and homosexual unions. Ms. Baldwin is the antithesis of the working-class liberalism embodied by Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry Truman. [...]

Mr. Thompson is a Catholic. He does not wear his faith on his sleeve, yet he should confront Ms. Baldwin about her socialist feminism. Wisconsin’s electorate needs to know just how far out of the mainstream she really is. The last thing they need is Barney Frank in a dress.

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That's just a small smattering of the vile stuff this Times columnist committed and the paper chose to publish. Suffice it to say, the Times believes having an openly gay senator will mean the end of civilization as we know it. Or perhaps just having a lesbian senator.

It's a credit to the people of Wisconsin that they don't seem to give a shit about Baldwin's homosexuality and it hasn't been an issue. But this national paper is trying to make it one. Is Thompson desperate enough to follow their lead?

Click here to donate $3 to Tammy Baldwin on Act Blue.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:25 AM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Stay classy Republicans (25+ / 0-)

    It's clear they can't win on the issues. Hey, wasn't it President Obama who spearheaded the effort to overturn Don't Ask Don't Tell? Why yes, I looked it up and it was one of the planks in his campaign in 2008. Congress obliged.

    •  The Washington Times is not a national paper (6+ / 0-)

      It's a Beltway fish wrapper - for fish scraps. Pay it no mind. It doesn't change anyone's opinion. It just reinforces the ignorant bigots that read it.

      And their lips move when they read it.

      "Good morning, brothers Koch. I see you're doing well. If I had me a shotgun, I'd blow you straight to hell." w/apologies to R. Hunter

      by RUKind on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 10:23:48 AM PDT

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      •  Do even the ignorant bigots even read it anymore? (1+ / 0-)
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        Steveningen

        I live in Charlottesville VA and the stores that used to carry the Washington Times don't anymore.

        Ask the homophobes against marriage equality this: "Would you rather see two gay men marry each other or one closet case marry your daughter and then cruise in parks?"

        by spacecadet1 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 11:29:54 AM PDT

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    •  "postmodern" WTF? only with homosexual onions (1+ / 0-)
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      Steveningen
      She is the Sandra Fluke of Wisconsin politics — a postmodern socialist who wants government to underwrite birth control pills and homosexual unions.

      yksitoista ulotteinen presidentin shakki. / tappaa kaikki natsit "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) 政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

      by annieli on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 11:57:04 AM PDT

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  •  that is really intense gibberish nt (5+ / 0-)

    Job Crater Republicans Made Our Lives Miserable. Drop Them.

    by renzo capetti on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:38:43 AM PDT

  •  Chock Full Of Right Wing Dog Whistles (25+ / 0-)

    "lesbian lifestyle" (when do we  ever see "heterosexual lifestyle" used?)

    "avowed gays and lesbians" (when do we ever see "avowed straights" used?)

    "a relentless advocate for homosexual issues" (when do we ever see "a relentless advocate for heterosexual issues" used?)

    "assaults our Judeo-Christian heritage"

    "radical feminist"

    "postmodern socialist"

    "socialist feminism"

    "Barney Frank in a dress"

    The Republican Party is Simply a Coalition of Greed and Hate

    by kerplunk on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:40:58 AM PDT

    •  What is an avowed gay? (21+ / 0-)

      And how do I become an "avowed gay"?  I don't remember having to take any vows when I came out.

      •  it's printed on the toaster warranty /nt (8+ / 0-)

        yksitoista ulotteinen presidentin shakki. / tappaa kaikki natsit "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) 政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

        by annieli on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:58:28 AM PDT

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      •  You have to raise your right hand and repeat (5+ / 0-)
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        annieli, uyanga, popmstr518, NonnyO, basket

        after me . . .

        On my honor I will do my best
        To do my duty to God and my country
        and to obey the Fashion Police;
        To help other people at all times;
        To keep myself physically strong,
        mentally awake, and FABULOUS.

        I can’t decide who’s cuter – the dead guy with the arrows in his chest, or the guy in the ditch with the seeping wound. -- Game of Thrones (Heard on Set)

        by prodigal on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:12:08 AM PDT

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      •  Republicans prefer their gays like Ken Mehlman (4+ / 0-)

        Or Mark Foley, or Larry Craig, or Ted Haggard.  You know, living sad, shame-filled lives of self-loathing and secrecy.  When they're inevitably outed, the details are always sordid, because it's impossible for them to have healthy monogamous relationships while they're in the closet -- therefore, they have to resign their position of power in disgrace.

        The word "avowed" in this context implies outrage that the uppity homosexual in question has the gall to not be ashamed of their entire existence.  That really bothers these people.

        I can't believe a national newspaper would publish this hate speech in 2012.

      •  Don't Forget ... (0+ / 0-)

        It seems that most conservatives only accept those "gays" who persistently disavow their own orientation.  All that's needed to become an "avowed homosexual" is a simple personal acceptance or acknowledgement of a fact.

        Living in a reality-based world is always constitutes an assault of everything the mindless right believes in.

        The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety. H.L. Mencken

        by ancblu on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:29:28 AM PDT

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    •  Don't forget the "Abortion on demand". Conjurs up (2+ / 0-)
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      a drive-thru-abortion clinic or perhaps the Abortionplex that Planned Parenthood wants to build:

      TOPEKA, KS—Planned Parenthood announced Tuesday the grand opening of its long-planned $8 billion Abortionplex, a sprawling abortion facility that will allow the organization to terminate unborn lives with an efficiency never before thought possible. The Onion

      Conservatives seem to believe that the rich will work harder if we give them more, and the poor will work harder if we give them less. E.J. Dionne

      by blueyescryinintherain on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:13:05 AM PDT

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    •  Oh, there's way more (3+ / 0-)
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      annieli, kj in missouri, basket

      than just that. But I was concerned about ruining West coast folks' breakfasts, so I went easy on you guys.

      "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

      by Joan McCarter on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:21:50 AM PDT

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      •  I can say that... (3+ / 0-)
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        As a guy who "[supports] radical feminist[s, and] who champions gay marriage, abortion on demand, government-funded contraception and [curtailing the influence of religious dogma on secular law and secular government policy]," I think I just might have to donate to Tammy.

        If they want to dog-whistle to their base with conservative stereotypes, I say we take a look at those stereotypes and make them explain, specifically, what their problem is with them. I'd like to have those debates. If Republicans were forced to more specifically lay out their problems with people on these issues and be more honest about what they would like to do with government power and why, I think a lot of hearts and minds will be lost for them.

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        by steveholt on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:44:26 AM PDT

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  •  and Tommy Thompson is Bachmann in a...wait a sec (11+ / 0-)

    yksitoista ulotteinen presidentin shakki. / tappaa kaikki natsit "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) 政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

    by annieli on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:41:38 AM PDT

  •  "Barney Frank in a dress" is very high praise (16+ / 0-)

    If I were Tammy Baldwin I'd use that.

    Romney '12: Berlusconi without the sex and alcohol!

    by Rich in PA on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:44:00 AM PDT

  •  I'm surprised they didn't call her a FemiNazi (7+ / 0-)

    This, from a major national publication. Nice.

    My dog is a member of Dogs Against Romney: He rides inside.

    by adigal on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:52:21 AM PDT

    •  What "Major National Publication" Picked It Up? nt (3+ / 0-)
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      annieli, Blue Knight, Matt Z

      On the Internet, nobody knows if you're a dog... but everybody knows if you're a jackass.

      by stevemb on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:55:06 AM PDT

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    •  Feminazi's have the dom thing going. (0+ / 0-)

      You have to have boots and a riding crop to qualify.

      I own boots and a whip, but that's because I like to drive my Miniature Horse, Miss Jewel.

      That's the only female I ever try to dominate. And it hardly ever works.  Tough litle girl, that pony.  

      Freedom has two enemies: Those who want to control everyone around them...and those who feel no need to control themselves.

      by Sirenus on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 04:59:38 PM PDT

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  •  Yawn. Just another homophobe racist on the (3+ / 0-)
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    annieli, PALiberal1, Matt Z

    wrong side of history.  They'll all die out eventually.

  •  What? (16+ / 0-)

    She supports equal rights for everyone?  In AMERICA?

    Aaaahhhhh!!  Everybody run!!

  •  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! (10+ / 0-)

    This may have worked as recently as 2004, but someone forgot to send these jagoffs the memo that a majority of Americans now support gay rights in all its forms, including gay marriage and gays in the military.

    Which by definition means a majority of swing voters.

    I guess they don't do math very well in wingnuttia anymore.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:54:54 AM PDT

  •  Baldwin is Lesboliscious (3+ / 0-)
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    sethtriggs, annieli, schnecke21

    Let's not comment on her record or views or statements...since they can't without looking like idiots.  Let's pick something that doesn't matter and that fewer and fewer people care about.

    Yeah, that'll work in 2012 in WI.  Not.

    (-6.25, -6.77) Moderate left, moderate libertarian

    by Lonely Liberal in PA on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:55:38 AM PDT

    •  Tommy Thompson's political director (4+ / 0-)

      already did try to press the omigod-LESBIAN attack, back on the day Tammy was to address the national convention last month, by e-mailing around a YouTube video of Tammy dancing at a gay pride rally.

      The attack mostly backfired, I think -- not only because Wisconsin still has some contempt for personal-life attacks on the campaign trail, but also because... she looked awesome.  See for yourself:

      If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality. - Bishop Desmond Tutu

      by AnnieJo on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:21:00 AM PDT

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  •  So Sandra Fluke is Satan, we harbor lunatics (4+ / 0-)
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    annieli, sethtriggs, hyperstation, Matt Z

    within out midst, the shame is, many seem to take their ravings seriously.

    "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

    by LaFeminista on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:56:32 AM PDT

  •  Man, they're pretty dumb (4+ / 0-)

    They think spewing homophobic vitriol will hurt Baldwin? Quite the opposite, actually. This isn't 1950.

  •  WashTimes: ...and Reverend Moon is still dead /nt (6+ / 0-)

    yksitoista ulotteinen presidentin shakki. / tappaa kaikki natsit "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) 政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

    by annieli on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:57:31 AM PDT

  •  Tammy Baldwin is a great woman (12+ / 0-)

    and she will serve the Badger State well in the United States Senate. I love the fact that the best argument against her by the GOP is that she's a lesbian. To me if that's the best they can do, she should win!

  •  Reverend Moon Died (4+ / 0-)
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    annieli, sethtriggs, lanshark, Matt Z

    I was hoping the Washington Times would be buried with him.   How long can this crappy paper survive without him supporting it financially?  Or, heaven forbid, will it keep spreading his right-wing crap for decades to come?

    I'll put on my glasses.... and tell you how sweet your ass is. (w/ apologies to Señor Bega)

    by mHainds on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:58:25 AM PDT

  •  Tommy Thompson: Rush LimpBlob in a tie. n/t (3+ / 0-)
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    lgmcp, mcmom, Matt Z

    "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty (Mittens, Paul Ryan, Scotty Walker, Limbaugh, pick your favorite) said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."

    by Eman on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:58:29 AM PDT

  •  Barney Frank in a Dress sounds great! (10+ / 0-)

    Although I thought ALL LESBIANS WORE PANTS, and gay men wore dresses. Which would make Barney Frank in a dress...Barney Frank. I mean, it's right there in the stereotyping handbook, page 12.

    Now can we talk about how much she loves playing softball and how that will destroy America?

    Some people are intolerant, and I CAN'T STAND people like that. -- Tom Lehrer

    by TheCrank on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:58:38 AM PDT

    •  No, no it doesn't really... (0+ / 0-)

      I really can't picture a dress on Barney that wouldn't make me shudder inside a little... really not my thing.

      HOWEVER! Show me more people that care about his constituents and America as a whole like Barney does and we have a winner! Mr. Frank retiring is nearly as great a loss to the House as losing Senator Kennedy was in my opinion. So few these days wear their passion for the people so openly and proudly as those two, and we need more, be they in dresses, pant suits, jeans or mankinis.

      We need people that care again. Tammy will be one hell of a good start to refilling those depleted ranks.

      Not fully relevant, but the thought that we need more Fruit Cakes in this world comes to mind...

      http://www.youtube.com/...

      ... and the Parrothead in me means this with the highest level of respect.

  •  when is someone going to (6+ / 0-)

    call out the good catholic Thompson on his sham marriage and his constant womanizing.  This is all so well known in WI. The story is that Repugs had some dirt on Herb Kohl (or some Democrat) and there was an agreement between the two parties that it wouldn't be dragged out.   Tommy and wife mate haven't lived together for years.  I'm kind of amazed that he has a son...in my years in WI I never heard of him.

    You can fool "some" of the people all of the time. Abe Lincoln was right.

    by regis on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 08:58:44 AM PDT

    •  missed this before I commented below (1+ / 0-)
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      as I mention below, Wisonsin has (or at least had - it's been a while since I lived there) a long tradition of respecting the private lives of politicians of both parties.

      •  There's more to the story (1+ / 0-)
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        While Thompson's somewhat flamboyant womanizing is widely known, what's lesser known are the rumors that he appointed at least one of his mistresses to a high-level state job and paid (presumably with his taxpayer-money salary) for another's apartment in Madison. A national newspaper was researching a story on it back when he ran for President but nothing more has come of it. I assumed part of the truce involved leaving Baldwin's sexual identity off the table, so it will be interesting to see if Thompson's camp tries to make an issue out of it again.

  •  As an "avowed" gay man (3+ / 0-)
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    I find these comments by the Washington Times to be utterly disgusting.  I can't say I'm terribly surprised by it, though.  It was pretty predictable that the hard right would take the low road.  But will Thompson?  If he dares to, it could easily backfire.

    -5.13,-5.64; If you gave [Jerry Falwell] an enema, you could bury him in a matchbox. -- Christopher Hitchens

    by gizmo59 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:01:35 AM PDT

    •  As an avowed straight woman, I find them (3+ / 0-)
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      utterly disgusting as well.

      I think the word "avowed" applies more readily to straights than gays in most states, doesn't it?  I mean, I actually did take a vow when I got married.  Not many gays get to do that.

      "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

      by gustynpip on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:07:30 AM PDT

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  •  Sandra Fluke is a postmodern socialist? (9+ / 0-)

    I like her even MORE now!

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:02:12 AM PDT

  •  Will Thompson follow their lead? (0+ / 0-)

    The question that needs to be asked is if Thompson is actually leading the story in the Times, which he can later try to turn around and cite as a example of the .

    It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Thompson had collaberated behind the scenes with this.

  •  It's the Times.. What did you expect???? (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Who is attacking traditional marriage? (3+ / 0-)

    I mean, besides Newt Gingrich, of course.....

    Coming Soon -- to an Internet connection near you: Armisticeproject.org

    by FischFry on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:04:14 AM PDT

  •  Ooooh, those scary (3+ / 0-)
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    mcmom, annieli, kj in missouri

    radical feminists. Be afraid, be very afraid.

    Outfits like that probably said the same things about Abigail Adams.

    "There are no Americans at the airport!" -- Baghdad Bob
    "I’ve got a very effective campaign." -- Mitt Romney

    by Mnemosyne on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:05:24 AM PDT

  •  wow. (1+ / 0-)
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    mcmom

    As an aside, I've been glad that in the state house district I live in, the Republicans haven't (yet) attacked the incumbent's opponent's sexual orientation (he's gay).

    pseudoscience can kill

    by terrypinder on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:06:33 AM PDT

  •  Homophobia is alive and well . . . (3+ / 0-)
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    at least at places like the Washington Times.  I know it's a right wing rag, but no paper in this country would ever dare to publish a comparaby racist or antisemitic column.  It shows that we still have a ways to go before homophobia becomes socially unacceptable.

    "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

    by FogCityJohn on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:06:54 AM PDT

  •  Hmmm (0+ / 0-)

    I hear Dick Cheney is rushing to the defense of Baldwin.  So is Ken Mehlman.  

    "Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me--and I welcome their hatred." Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by djbender on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:07:00 AM PDT

  •  Love How All These Right Wingers Cheat (0+ / 0-)

    and then scream that gay people are a "threat
     to Traditional Marriage."  

    I really could care less what people do in their marriages but don't run around peering in people's bedrooms and attempting to regulate private behavior if you are having an affair. All these Family Values types are the same - "Do What I Say, Not What I Do."

    And yes I am looking at you Dinesh D'Souza and Scott DesJarlais!

  •  Bad things?... (2+ / 0-)
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    In fact, she [Baldwin]  is a radical feminist = Good!


    Who champions gay marriage, abortion on demand, government-funded contraception and war on religious freedom. If that were true, it would be great!

    She is the Sandra Fluke of Wisconsin politics = We wish!

    A postmodern socialist who wants government to underwrite birth control pills and homosexual unions =  Nobody knows what the hell a "postmodern socialist" is, but I like the ring of it.

    Ms. Baldwin is the antithesis of the working-class liberalism embodied by Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry Truman.   Bullshit.  Ms. Baldwin represents perfectly the  working-class liberalism embodied by Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry Truman.

    "You just gotta keep on livin man! L-I-V-I-N!" - Wooderson

    by wyvern on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:09:33 AM PDT

  •  ah bigotry and hate (0+ / 0-)

    are all you need to know about to be a supporter of the right in america, whenever they run out of options they can always count on these emotions to get the right fired up for action, facts and reality are forgotten when dealing with the voter that lives in the past and fears the change the future portends, the good ole days are the panacea that cures all that bothers the cons.

  •  Tammy would be a force of nature (4+ / 0-)
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    in the senate. I hope the people agree. This could be the election that sees the power of LBGT votes.

    I think, therefore I am. I think.

    by mcmom on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:11:05 AM PDT

  •  Barney Frank in a dress is not an image I want (0+ / 0-)

    to dwell on........

  •  Sandra Fluke? I can't believe they're still going (0+ / 0-)

    on about her.  How much ridicule does it take before they drop it?

    To believe that markets determine value is to believe that milk comes from plastic bottles. Bromley (1985)

    by sneakers563 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:11:49 AM PDT

  •  This is interesting statement: (3+ / 0-)
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    Ms. Baldwin is the antithesis of the working-class liberalism embodied by Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry Truman. [...]
    So, the writer seems to have some knowledge of political theory, yet s/he writes an article like this.

    I mean, it would have been interesting to see the author try to explicate the distinction between Ms. Baldwin's liberalism and working-class liberalism.

    "To recognize error, to cut losses, to alter course, is the most repugnant option in government." Historian Barbara Tuchman

    by Publius2008 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:12:26 AM PDT

    •  I'd actually say ... (4+ / 0-)

      The author of the article displays the antithesis of knowledge of political theory.

      What is offered up is only a word salad demonizing buzz-words without demonstrating the least understanding what any of it means.

      It's nothing more than crystalized anti-intellectualism cut into lines for today's right wing addict of demagoguery.

      The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety. H.L. Mencken

      by ancblu on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:43:42 AM PDT

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      •  top comment /nt (1+ / 0-)
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        "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

        by kj in missouri on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 10:40:59 AM PDT

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        •  Very kind, (1+ / 0-)
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          kj in missouri

          but wish I could now edit it a bit tighter ... kind of like wanting to shower up before a party and the first guest has already showed up.

          Cheers.  :)

          The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety. H.L. Mencken

          by ancblu on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 10:53:52 AM PDT

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      •  Exactly (1+ / 0-)
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        ancblu

        It reads as if the writer was using the "three column technique" (what Laurence Peter of Peter Principle fame called a "jargon phrase indicator") where you pick one word from each of three columns and then string them together.

        He knows that the terms are used in political theory, but not how they're used. This results in a jargon or pidgin (kudos to Dr. James Laidler for realizing that this is a type of pidgin) that sounds impressive to people who don't know the subject (Laidler's example was a claim that some nostrum worked by "stealing electromagnetic energy from cancer cells") but is instantly recognized as gibberish by anyone who does. My claim to have batted fifty touchdowns in a single basketball game might sound impressive to someone who's completely sports-illiterate, but not to anyone else.

        Of course it's also possible that he really does know the meanings of the terms but simply doesn't care, figuring out that most of his readers won't understand them. In that case, his writing meets the formal philosophical criteria for bullshit.

        In a dog-eat-dog world, rabies is an advantage in the short term.

        by ebohlman on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 02:44:33 PM PDT

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  •  what the hell is a "lesbian lifestyle" (4+ / 0-)
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    ...i never got that.

    being gay isn't a lifestyle...it's a sexual orientation. gay people's "lifestyles" are just like everybody elses, and just as diverse.

    whether one walks, drives or takes a train/bus to work says much more about lifestyle than sexual orientation.

    it's so annoying, and highlights that anti-gay weirdos have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

    "An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war." -Mark Twain

    by humanistique on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:12:26 AM PDT

    •  there are no bad gay lifestyle cliches (0+ / 0-)
      Best Car for the New Gay Family 2007
      2008 Buick Enclave
      Yes, I said a Buick; but there's no need to worry. This new crossover cruiser, based on the GM-saving Lambda platform has upgraded the old school brand way beyond its previous nursing home status. The curves are clean and sexy, the chrome evenly placed and the interior ultra sophisticated with room enough for the Burberry child seat and Louis luggage. Mid gays take note: The Enclave, available Summer 2007, will satisfy a variety of corporate, family and personal needs (all with style).

      Best Twinkmobile
      2007 Scion tC
      The tC is the most attractive of the youth-oriented Toyota brand. Scion's have mass young gay appeal with customizable packages and teen prices. Could Toyota have gotten it right yet again?

      Best Topless Go-Go Getter
      2007 Saturn Sky Roadster
      Saturn's sexy, economically priced breeze-maker shares a platform with sister roadster, the Pontiac Solstice. The Sky has put a breath of fresh air in the small-town brand. Currently, there is no hard or electronic retractable top option, but a few manual pulls is worth the look and feel of this eye-catcher. And at just above $20,000, Tim Gunn says it best, "And off we go."

      Best Ride for the Trendy Gay Man
      2007 Volkswagen EOS
      Another topless taker on the top gay list. VW's old Rabbit had to be the gayest car ever made. Now it's evolved sister, the EOS, wears the tiara. Ride up or down. Either way, no gay sticker necessary.

      Best Ride for the Trendy Gay Man (Urban)
      2007 Dodge Charger
      Car enthusiasts complained endlessly about the Charger's four doors, but people who actually bought the car fought back with a dismissive "who cares?" The car is hot and even the cheap non-chrome-rim version incites muscle envy. The design has classic roots with modern appeal. Just like today's urban gay man.

      Best Lesbian Moving Van
      2007 Subaru Forester
      What's a top gay car list without top lesbian picks? This year, the Forester takes the moving van honors. Columnist Kathy Belge says, "The Subaru Forester is great for lesbians with kids or dogs." Do lesbians not like cats and pickups anymore?

      Best Green Queen
      2007 Mercedes-Benz E320 BLUETEC
      There's nothing better than a classy man that cares for himself and the environment. Step aside toaster-looking hybrids and teen miniatures, the new Bluetec from Germany boasts MPG figures in the mid-30's. Yes, mid-30's for only about a grand more. Play games if you want, OPEC... the American road trip will never die!

      Most Likely Trade Cruiser
      2007 Cadillac Escalade
      Has someone finally picked up the phone at General Motors? For decades I swear it was disconnected. They seem to be getting their messages now, though. The formula is simple: Build a vehicle that appeals and it will sell. This time they said to heck with the suburbanite in favor of the bling kings who care little about gas prices as long as the chrome rims blind onlookers at 2 MPH.

      Best Techno Flagship
      2007 Lexus LS
      What do you get the gay man that has it all? A car that has it all. The 2007 Lexus LS (if you can call it a car) has more tricks up its sleeve than Sean Michaels. Years ago, luxury carmakers laughed at Toyota's launch of a luxury brand. Now, Lexus leads the world in quality, reliability and now technology. The new 2007 LS is perhaps the most technologically advanced car on the road. Get a shiatsu and vibrating massage in the back seat while viewing your DVD flat screen. Passengers can also lay back in pure bliss with the automatic body temperature sensors and the 19-speaker sound system. Now, if only there were a bar in there.

      Best Retail Carriage
      2007 Mazda 6
      The 6 gives plenty of zoom on a retail queen's budget. Mazda's flagship is also economically priced at about $20,000 MSRP. Good thing... retail worry-ers have little cash for a car note, especially given their tendency to spend every dollar on new season fashions at a 10 percent discount.

      Best Dragwagon
      2007 Hyundai Sonata
      The untrained eye never knows if the dress that drag queen is wearing is couture or just an ebay special- just as the untrained eye won't have a clue that the cleanly-styled Sonata is the best bargain in it's class. The interior is constructed with high-quality lines and materials that make you wonder how carmakers like Ford and Mitsubishi dare sell vehicles with toy plastic at higher prices. Ride in style, spend less and save your money for those wholesale boas.

      yksitoista ulotteinen presidentin shakki. / tappaa kaikki natsit "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) 政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

      by annieli on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:22:09 AM PDT

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  •  It's been a while since I lived in Wisconsin, but (4+ / 0-)
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    my recollection is that candidates personal lives were pretty much off the table.  Tammy Baldwin may be out, but she's far from the first LGBT politician in Wisconsin.

    my recollection also was that Tommy Thompson was not the ideal candidate to make defense of traditional marriage a pillar of his campaign.

    •  Ditto (1+ / 0-)
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      motwor1

      Born there, spent first 25 years there and hope to move back as retirement approaches. Going to Mad-town next weekend for a Badgers game!

      I've been donating via Act Blue to Tammy's campaign since mid-summer. Wisconsin deserves someone of her abilities and concern for the average person in the Senate.

      Thompson is a disgrace to a great state . . . but then he's a Rethug, so it's redundant to say that.

  •  Bizarre (1+ / 0-)
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    The right's obsession with gay and lesbian Americans is one of the most bizarre developments in American politics.

    Homophobia.  Republicans just can't stop themselves.

    “I believe all Southern liberals come from the same starting point--race. Once you figure out they are lying to you about race, you start to question everything.” ― Molly Ivins

    by RoIn on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:13:49 AM PDT

    •  Sounds kind of like (0+ / 0-)

      a seriously sociopathic fetish -- with non-consenting partners and no interest in having safe words.  

      The unhinged fixations of extremism is a phenomenon always far more perverse than the particular objects selected for its scorn.

      The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety. H.L. Mencken

      by ancblu on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:51:03 AM PDT

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  •  Just made a donation, thanks to this diary. (2+ / 0-)
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    Joan McCarter, hyperstation

    We have to see that Tammy succeeds.  Thanks for getting me motivated!

  •  Laughable hypocrisy (3+ / 0-)
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    So, to be clear, this is the Moonies main press outlet attacking someone for 1) not respecting "traditional" marriage and 2) not respecting "our judeo-christian heritage".  The Moonies, who 1) marry people the way Detroit produces cars and 2) have about as much legitimate claim to "judeo-christian heritage" as North Korea has a claim to be a Democratic People's Republic?

    Anyone else see the pure ridiculousness here?

  •  Somewhere in the GOP's attic is a portrait of (3+ / 0-)

    their soul, with a sheet draped over it.  Dorian Gray would have been a Republican.

    The ugliness and hatred coming out of the modern day GOP is stunning.  I can't imagine where it will end.

    Oregon: Sure...it's cold. But it's a damp cold.

    by Keith930 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:15:11 AM PDT

  •  Federal Appeals Court Struck Down DOMA! (2+ / 0-)
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    Here's the link.  http://bigstory.ap.org/...

    The world is moving away from the bigoted, "family values" hypocrites.

    As Sheppard Smith said, the Rs are on the wrong side of history on this one.

  •  Barney Frank is Tammy Baldwin in pants. nt (1+ / 0-)
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    "So, am I right or what?"

    by itzik shpitzik on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:16:54 AM PDT

  •  Sounds like a ringing endorsement to me... (2+ / 0-)
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    Ms. Baldwin has made no secret of her lesbian lifestyle.
    Oh, that's OK: I make no secret of my heterosexual lifestyle, either.  
    She is a vocal supporter of gay pride and the LGBT community.
    Good.
    She told the liberal Huffington Post that her Senate candidacy is historic.
    It may very well be.  
    Ms. Baldwin stressed that “breaking through these glass ceilings has a ripple effect.” In other words, her election would—and should—encourage other avowed gays and lesbians to enter high office.
    Good, if it works out that way.
    She sees herself as the tip of the spear for the LGBT community—a relentless advocate for homosexual issues.
    Good for her!  And the LGBT community.
    She attacks traditional marriage.
    Traditions change.  We didn't always have bi-racial couples, you know.  
    She led the fight to repeal the ban on gays openly serving in the military.
    Awesome.  
    She consistently assaults our Judeo-Christian heritage.
    Even awesomer if it is true.  Religion has no place in secular politics.    
    [...] Ms. Baldwin’s success so far has been due to her ability to mask her hard left-wing views.
    Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Say no more!
    She is portraying herself as a moderate liberal.
    But you just said her policies make her the Lesbian Lenin?  Now I'm confused....
    In fact, she is a radical feminist who champions gay marriage,
    OK, back on track.  And Good!
    abortion on demand,
    Good.
    government-funded contraception
    Even better.
    and war on religious freedom.
    By protecting me from having you ram your religion down my throat?  Your "freedom" stops at someone else's rights.
    She is the Sandra Fluke of Wisconsin politics—a postmodern socialist who wants government to underwrite birth control pills and homosexual unions.
    Good.
    Ms. Baldwin is the antithesis of the working-class liberalism embodied by Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry Truman. [...]
    Uh, Truman, maybe.  Roosevelt?  Not so much.  I think he'd be right there with her.  Eleanor, too.  
    Mr. Thompson is a Catholic. He does not wear his faith on his sleeve, yet he should confront Ms. Baldwin about her socialist feminism.
    He should ram his religion down her throat...
    Wisconsin’s electorate needs to know just how far out of the mainstream she really is.
    If you consider yourself mainstream, then yeah.  They need to know.
    The last thing they need is Barney Frank in a dress.
    No, that's what they need most to countermand the huge fuckup they elected for governor.  
  •  "her lesbian lifestyle" (0+ / 0-)

    I swear, of all the anti-gay right-wing memes, that's one that never fails to piss me off.

  •  Good Lord (1+ / 0-)
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    What a screed! I just read the whole piece and sent more dough to Tammy via ActBlue. Hope those who can will do so too.

  •  Barney Frank is retiring :( (4+ / 0-)

    If I could, I'd move back to my birthstate to vote for a dresswearing Barney.      

    Sounds like she's also quite qualified to speak in Senate for my lesbian daughter in jeans and safety shoes.

    My girl owns her small job creating car mechanic business .
    She was ejected from her volunteer service in our navy when spot search found a letter from her female partner back home -- tho no one "asked" or "told". She had passed the tough testing & was headed to be one of those essential gay translators we needed to avert 9/11 and its aftermaths.

    We all deserve a jury of our "peers."  

    De fund + de bunk = de EXIT--->>>>>

    by Neon Mama on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:24:49 AM PDT

  •  Quiet as it's kept... (4+ / 0-)

    Tommy Thompson is NOT a fire-breathing, hard-core religious fanatic wingnut. He's just a Republican, the way most Republicans were back in the day before most of them went nuts because because of the black guy in the White House. Think of Tommy Thompson as Bob Dole or Howard Baker, not as Michele Bachmann or Tom Coburn. And what's more, everyone in Wisconsin KNOWS that Tommy isn't nuts. He cannot do what the Washington Times wants him to do without being universally seen as a lying hypocrite. A "she's a Lesbian" attack on Baldwin would move zero Democratic votes away from her, but would move thousands of independents to rethink their impressions of him. A personal attack of that nature would be seen as a nod to the Tea Party nutjobs, and would be viewed by independents as Tommy selling out to the worst people in his party. It'd cost him the election, and he knows it.

    It's awesome that the Washington Times is so clueless about my state, but that they write about us anyway. Classy and imformative as always, Moonies.

    The Bush Family: 0 for 4 in Wisconsin

    by Korkenzieher on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:31:43 AM PDT

  •  Okay, I concede: ALL male Republicans are pricks. (0+ / 0-)

    Not just Rmoney.

    "There's no ideology [t]here [on the right]. It's just about being a dick." Bill Maher, June 22, 2012.

    by caseynm on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:32:45 AM PDT

  •  Click the link. (0+ / 0-)

    Be sure to go over to the Mooney Times and comment.  
    They heed "help" over there.

    It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.

    by GrinningLibber on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:34:18 AM PDT

  •  I've never owned a bird, but (0+ / 0-)

    I think I'll go to the petstore and buy a parakeet and a birdcage, just so I can put copies of the Washington Times on the bottom.

      This should fit in nicely with my avowed straight African-American male lifestyle.

    "I don’t wear no Stetson, but I’m willin’ to bet, son, that I’m a bigger Texan than you are".- Robert Earl Keen

    by Kellybee on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:35:22 AM PDT

  •  he candidacy IS historic (0+ / 0-)

    We've never had an out LGBT US Senator. Her election should give us a moment to shout a little "yay" this November. She's breaking down a barrier, and we should all celebrate that.

    Unless, of course, you hate teh gayz. In which case, her election should detonate some of the few remaining unexploded right-wing heads... which is another thing the rest of us can celebrate!

  •  The moonie times (0+ / 0-)

    is still in mourning over the death of the great leader, Rev. Moon. They firmly believe that marriage is between a man and a women who probably don't know one another and get married 5,000 at a time in a stadium. You know, the way Jesus would do it.

  •  She's gay? News to me. (1+ / 0-)
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    Well, not news, not by my definition of "news".  It's none of my damned business and I have as much interest in reading about that as I have in reading about who some basketball player is screwing.

    In any case, while it's kinda cool that a woman whom the bigots can't stand is doing so well, I'm far more interested in her voting record, which is, by my assessment, superlative.  That's why I support her.

    I am become Man, the destroyer of worlds

    by tle on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:50:19 AM PDT

  •  doesn't even make sense (0+ / 0-)

    I would think that everyone in the state knows Baldwin is gay, so attacking her for being gay would probably backfire.
    The republicans know that they are not going to win the senate and are afraid of losing ground.

  •  Thompson (1+ / 0-)
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    Tommy Thompson is just as sincere a Catholic as a pedophile priest, going along with the association as a means to an end. The only difference is Thompson craves power and money to the exclusion of any moral principle rather than sex with children. Thousands will vote for this scumbag that paved the way for the more advanced corruption of Scott Walker because they are less worried about good government than who Baldwin sweats up the sheets with. Despite being a prime target of Republican family values hypocrites there has been no legitimate bribery scandals or corruption for the many years Baldwin has served in elected office. The announced principles of hypocrites like Walker and Thompson are tuned to get the office and have no relationship to their behavior in office. They are devoted Koch suckers and they will do anything to stay right there on their knees.

  •  As a (former) resident of WI, I'll be shocked ... (0+ / 0-)

    ... if Wisconsinites accept this crap.

    Tommy Thompson - who seems apology-impaired given his reactions to gratuitous statements his clueless son keeps making - needs to disavow this kind of political editorial. Whether it's in an "independent" publication or not, he must have an opinion about it.

    Mr. Thompson, as governor, you enjoyed a better reputation than this stuff. You have to step up and say this does not speak for you.

    Obama and strong Democratic majorities in 2012!

    by TRPChicago on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 09:55:18 AM PDT

  •  $100 for Tammy's Campaign (3+ / 0-)
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    And a note on the Washington Times' article comments section:

    "Thanks for letting me know about the lesbian menace. I normally don't contribute to out-of-state campaigns, but your article prompted me to donate $100 towards her election. Keep up the good work, and God bless."

  •  Washington Times is still publishing? (1+ / 0-)
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    annieli

    I thought they had gone into bankruptcy or receivership...

    Moon was burned on a pyre of unsold Washington Times and rightwinger hair grease.

    "now this is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." W. Churchill

    by Thor Heyerdahl on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 11:20:40 AM PDT

  •  FDR embodied (0+ / 0-)

    FDR was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.  He certainly advanced the interests of working people more than any other president, but he wasn't "of them" (that's a fair characterization of Truman, though, even if I don't think it means what the author seems to think it does; Truman was the first president since Grant to really actively assert the federal government's power on civil rights issues).

  •  the paper of the "3rd Adam" is talking about (1+ / 0-)
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    assaults on "our" Judeo-Christian heritage.

    ROTFLOL

    Bumper sticker seen on I-95; "Stop Socialism" my response: "Don't like socialism? GET OFF the Interstate highway!"

    by Clytemnestra on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 11:59:44 AM PDT

  •  "She is the Sandra Fluke of Wisconsin politics" (0+ / 0-)

    "She is the Sandra Fluke of Wisconsin politics—a postmodern socialist who wants government to underwrite birth control pills and homosexual unions. "

    What the hell does that even mean? Just a bunch of shitty right-wing buzzwords. And why the hell is a grown man picking on a young college student trying to make her way and advocate for issues that are important to her? What a chickenshit!

  •  And that's a bad thing?? (2+ / 0-)
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    I'll take Barney in a dress over any right wing fascist nut job like, say, J. Edgar Hoover in a dress.

    Smart. Articulate. Funny. Liberal. And wearing a dress. Not seeing the problem here.

    A society is judged by how well it cares for those in the dawn of life, the children. By how well it cares for those in the twilight of life, the elderly. And, by how well it cares for those on the edge of life; the poor, the sick, and the disabled.

    by BobBlueMass on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 12:16:55 PM PDT

  •  Maybe... (0+ / 0-)

    the Washington Times will go the way of Newsweek...One can hope

    "All great truths begin as blasphemies." -- George Bernard Shaw -4.38,-5.18

    by theBCI on Thu Oct 18, 2012 at 12:21:42 PM PDT

  •  Washington Times (0+ / 0-)

    Suitable for the outhouse. Squeezably soft.

  •  Moonies. Such nice folks. (0+ / 0-)

    The WT amounts to nothing more than the newsletter of the Unification Church and, like Faux News, it's fans are generally of the narrow-eyed, red-faced and angry variety who get all their information from inside The Bubble.

    Thanks for exposing this to the sunshine.

    Al-Qaeda is a faith-based initiative.

    by Spiffarino on Fri Oct 19, 2012 at 08:34:12 AM PDT

  •  Religious Freedom? (0+ / 0-)

    Having been seriously messed with by White, Racist, so-called Evangelical Christians - like the KKK, and National Alliance - in one way or another, and on more than one occassion; having had zillions of "other" Christians - and, after "talking some serious Lashon', even some of the more right-leaning, though thoroughly misguided by Lashon and/or so-called 'Zionist Christians' who're probably nothing but KKK Moles, bits of the 'Ultra-Zionist' Jewish Community! - "throw in with them" to "prove to me that I'm 'nothing' unless I 'have Jesus'," or, "Altering my Medical Charts and SSDI Claim to knowingly and deliberately cause me pain and suffering, because......to force me to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior, and.....just saving me from the greater pain and suffering of the Christian Hell (Where, on Dantes Seventh Level, they'll reside!)"; having seen mentally ill Jewish Lesbians (Jessica Dolin - Portland, OR., May 17th, 2003) suicides faked, and mentally retarded black girls beaten to death, sliced open, hosed with lighter fluid, and set ablaze under a bridge THREE DAYS LATER (Jessica Williams, PDX, found on May 21st, 2003); having been nothing but MESSED WITH - By the Right and Left; because they altered my Medical Charts, and told everyone I'm an "addict", rather than a Narcotic Pain Management Patient; I am sick and freaking tied of hearing these "right-wing religious nut-cases" - these "al Qaeda, with a Bible" - carping about the assault upon THEIR Religious Freedoms!!!

  •  Another rabid screed (0+ / 0-)

    The original Moonie Times column is another rabid screed from the ever-classless Jeffrey Kuhner, who spends his time fulminating against contraception, GLBT people, President Obama, and anyone else who doesn't share Kuhner's peculiarly paranoid view of the world. Media Matters has a collection of commentaries featuring some of Jeffrey Kuhner's wackier articles.

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