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The new owners of Ohio’s voting machines under the brand name HART Intercivic is none other than Tagg Romney, the son of one of the candidates Mitt Romney...  This brand was one of two targeted after 2004 as being highly corruptible. The infamous Diebold was the other.

The first question is WHY?

The obvious answer is to throw the election.

The second question is HOW?

This is an old clip made 6 years ago after the truth that in 2004, Ohio Republicans flipped a Kerry Victory over into one for Bush.  Their method was so send Ohio's precincts vote totals to Republican headquarters to be tallied.  The server was SmartTec based in Chattanooga Tennessee, the same which handled all GOP traffic.  Ken Blackwell was never prosecuted because the prime witness was killed in a inexplicable plane crash en-route to the trial.

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This is America's Achilles Heal.  

Oddly only two counties in Ohio use Tagg's companies machines. (Green on the map here).. Hamilton and Williams Counties.  Williams County appears to be primarily Republican, just this last primary voting Rick Santorium over Romney by a ration of 46 to 26%.  Its primary ballot was sparse in Democratic contests, full in Republican, a good sign of which way that county votes.  

In the Tea Party Election, 2010, here is how each county voted in the Kasich-Strickland contest.  Hamilton... Kasich won by 143,000 to 132,000 and in Williams, Kasich won over Strickland by 6600 to 4900.....

We all know that Ohio can be close.  Nothing demonstrates that more than analyzing two districts in Hamilton County, where Tagg's voting machines will be used for his fathers election....
Those two districts are called Cincinnati 2 and Cincinnati 3.  What you are about to see, is my taking the raw data off of the voter returns after the Obama wipeout in 2008 and comparing it to the Tea Party coup in 2010.  I think that after examining the data, the motive behind taking his over control of this private company will be clear....

Here is the comparison.

Cincinnati results 2008

Cincinnati 2 A-X  2555 Republican
Difference           4169
Democratic         6724

Turnout... 70%

Cincinnati 3 A-K    366 Republican
Difference            3884
Democratic          4250

Turnout....68%

Now 2010 Kasich/Strickland

Cincinnati 2           1809  Republican
Difference             1899
Democratic             3708

Turnout ...   41%            

cincinnati 3                   314
Difference                    2020
Democratic                    2334

Turnout....... 41%

Margin of victory 2008        8043
Margin of victory 2010        3919

Potential gain...........    4124

Kasich won Ohio by as little as 77,000 votes.  In these two districts alone, compared to 2008, was 4124 or 5% of the difference.  Imagine the same results in a much tighter race?

The obvious Republican strategy is to keep voter turnout low in districts voting 98 to 99 percent in favor of Obama.  The easiest method is to control the apparatus upon which votes are placed and counted.  If one glances above one sees the difference between 40% and 70% turnout.  This is already happening in Williams County.  The county board has failed to comply to the Ohio Secretary of State's requirements for achieving the necessary minimum number of voting units. The reason is because Hart Intercivic has voter machines to sell, but not to rent.  The impoverished rural county could certainly afford a lease of more, but not the direct purchase of the new expensive machines.  As a result, confusion will prevail, as precincts are combined to double   upon Tagg's company's voting machines.

If the voting machines are capable of rearranging the votes in these two districts, Ohio could go red if the election is under a 10,000 voter margin.
As the video above shows, it is impossible to trace.  Gee, the same number of republicans voted, "but wow, look at how few Democrats voted this time.  What a drop in turnout.  Blacks sure didn't show the outpouring they did for Obama 2008. Ha, ha, guess that means even they don't think Obama is up for the job."

That's odd most of inner city Cincinnati's poll workers will tell us;"we thought turnout was rather high!  I guess they just didn't vote for a president, probably just left it blank, that's all...."

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  •  one piece of good news (0+ / 0-)

    Tagg is mud stupid?  

    reelect the president

    by anna shane on Sat Oct 20, 2012 at 03:37:21 PM PDT

  •  Hart Intercivic story needs rest and sunshine (0+ / 0-)

    This story linking Bain to Hart Intercivic and thus the Romney's has been floating out there since Sept 27 without being picked up by MSM.  I smell something fishy...and it's been mentioned several times on Dkos in the last few days as if we should pick it up and run with it screaming with indignity like a bunch of republicans with a Kenyan birth certificate email.  Sorry, not buying it.  

    I'm not sure the Tagg Romney reference on Wiki is correct (it's an edit, not a fact).  I can edit, you can edit, we can all edit on Wiki - Wiki is not the end all and be all of truth.  

    It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom — for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself. - The Declaration of Arbroath 1320

    by htowngenie on Sat Oct 20, 2012 at 03:50:41 PM PDT

    •  Before you dismiss this out of hand as (0+ / 0-)

      always happens on DKos, read Victoria Collier's article, "How to Rig an Election: The GOP Aims to Paint the Country Red," in Harper's magazine, September 2012.   If people don't start to take this seriously, our democracy is doomed.

      •  Agreed GOP involved in Election Fraud (0+ / 0-)

        I am in total agreement with the premise that the GOP is indeed involved in a concerted effort, if not collusion, to commit election fraud.  I've been fighting True the Vote on a daily basis for over 2 months.  

        What I am trying to point out to this diarist is that there is no source or evidence for the accusation being made that Hart Intercivic is managed by the Romney family (or Bain, et al), which these all too frequent diaries seem to suggest.  Diarist needs to quit suggesting and show some proof before I fall for it.  I am not going to "grab and go" with every story that comes my way just because I agree with it...I have to KNOW it's true before I repeat it.  When I see a hint of someone suggesting "this needs to go viral" I put up a mental stop sign and look more closely.

        Show me some corporate filings with dates and names.  Until I see something like that attached, I won't believe it until Matt Taibi or Rachel Maddow reports it; they've earned my trust.  

        It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom — for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself. - The Declaration of Arbroath 1320

        by htowngenie on Sat Oct 20, 2012 at 05:40:56 PM PDT

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        •  I understand. My cousin has a lot of backup data (0+ / 0-)

          I've asked her to put it on DK as a diary.  Normally, the MSM is absolutely mum on this topic.   Collier's article is the first in six years to take this seriously.  So at least try to read that?  It's the September issue.

    •  I have to... (0+ / 0-)

      ...agree any connection to Tagg (WTF kind of name is that?) is tenuous. His company is a "fund of funds" type of entity. They do NOTHING. They don't even buy companies and ruin them like Bain. They just invest in companies that ruin companies like Bain. Not sure they are smart enough to actually rig a fishing pole much less an election. I would suspect he can rig a sailboat though.

      "Good to be here, good to be anywhere." --Keith Richards

      by bradreiman on Sat Oct 20, 2012 at 09:31:51 PM PDT

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    •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

      This story all of a sudden has morphed from Solomere invests in a company that invests in a company that owns shares in a voting machine company, to Tagg Romney bought voting machines for his daddy n'stuff. it's really quite a stretch.

    •  Reply (0+ / 0-)

      I remember from long ago, the account from a child of the Holocaust, who was less concerned about the bad people taking them away to a "temporary camp",  than he was about his friends, family, neighbors, who just stood, watched, and did nothing?  He asks the question which haunts us all today.  "Why did no one say anything?  Why did not one step up and say 'this is wrong'"?

      I don't mean to put your comment in the same category as the Gestapo, but more to use that turn of phrase to express my incredulous concern over how you can dismiss something that if true is so egregious?

      From your comment, I gather you won't believe this until Rachel Maddow comments on it.. Really?  I mean, really? We can't think for ourselves until an authoritarian tells us what to believe?  I'm kinda boggled.  I find that hard to believe someone like that is in the Democratic Party.... Really?  You won't accept anything until it get's respectability?  If so, then all one has to do to keep the truth from the American Public, is just buy out those one or two people who have credibility... Simple..

      Really?  I mean... Really?  Look.

      Hart Intercivic is owned, in large part, by H.I.G. Capital. H.I.G. employees hold at least two of the five Hart Intercivic board seats, and possibly a third.  Tony Tamer, H.I.G.’s founder, along with three other directors of H.I.G., turns out to be major bundlers for the Mitt Romney campaign,  ie. they are the big-time money raisers for Romney.

      Two members of the Hart Intercivic board of directors, Neil Tuch and Jeff Bohl, made direct contributions to the Romney campaign.  HIG is the eleventh largest single donor to the Romney campaign.

      And on top of this...  Solamere (Tagg Romney) now has a
      shared business interests with H.I.G. in Hart-Intercivic?

      Let me put this in a nutshell... Out of the top twenty people who are most heavily invested in seeing Mitt Romney become the next President, five of them, five of them, control a tiny little voting machine company that just happens to be used in the district that will determine which way goes Ohio.....
      Like the people watching the kids being loaded up on trucks, you can believe what you want to.....

      But if you are looking for the story from the main stream media you can find it  here,

      i did enjoy this from the Forbes article....

      "Keith Olbermann was suspended from his job at MSNBC for donating a couple hundred bucks to a local candidate that was a friend of his. Why? Because his employer required that journalists at the network stay free of having given such contributions to any candidate for all the obvious reasons.   Is it really too much to ask that those who control the voting machines that record and count the votes of  our elections be held to at least the same standard?"

      (Sometimes when people are really good at staying just out of the legal reach of the law, you have to look at the BIG  PICTURE instead.)

      •  You missed my point. (0+ / 0-)

        You based your assumption about what I believe on only part of a quote from me:

        I won't believe it until Matt Tai[b]bi or Rachel Maddow reports it; they've earned my trust.
         

        Now, let me emphasize the part you left out: Show me some corporate filings with dates and names.  Until I see something like that attached, I won't believe it until Matt Taib[b]i or Rachel Maddow reports it; they've earned my trust.

        Rather, when writing a diary, one must offer evidence or reliable sources to convince a thinking audience.  Regardless of whether the writer thinks Matt Taibbi or Rachel Maddow is a reliable source, the audience here, for the most part, does. If the writer's aim is to convince, quoting them might help.  At the least, if the diarist has no evidence or reliable sources to quote, the diarist should have easily verified points.  

        For instance, you have a good sounding argument in your reply.  But the points aren't easily verified.  Who are these people you mention and what is their level of involvement? They aren't mentioned in any reliable sources, and you don't provide any links.  That's why I am asking for documentary evidence.    

        Granted, you quoted the Forbes article.  But I'm not sure Forbes is a qualified arbiter of bi-partisan political debate. And I'm not sure Keith Olbermann has anything to do with the issue at hand.  That being said, I happen to agree with the sentiment expressed.  I didn't watch or listen to Keith Olbermann precisely because he never earned my trust and I found his style irritating.  He was a sports reporter first, no?  

        Here is a touch of CT for you though:  I'm starting to wonder if some of these diaries about Hart Intercivic and Bain are written by James O'Keefe wannabees, trying to catch progressives repeating something stupid right before the election.  I'll have no part in that, thank you.  And no, I don't buy the Holocaust analogy either.  

         

        It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom — for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself. - The Declaration of Arbroath 1320

        by htowngenie on Sun Oct 21, 2012 at 09:00:34 AM PDT

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        •  Ok, I did dodge that point. (0+ / 0-)

          But you did make me laugh out loud when you stated thus:

          "Show me some corporate filings with dates and names.  Until I see something like that attached,"

          Donald Trump:  " Show me a birth certificate with dates and names. Until I see that, on original paper......."

          The similarity is superfluous, I'm sure, but it was too close to go unnoticed...

          To your point...

          Corporate filings are obfuscated.  Only those inside the corporation have those documents.   You are no doubt unfamiliar with Delaware's legal process for signing up corporations.   The whole point is that they ask less questions than do the Caymen Islands.. (As an aside, ... here is the procedure:  "Oh, you want to register a corporation?  Got your hundred dollars?  Got a local address?  One second please... " )

          You can see from the positioning of the board members, the connections are there.  In case someone else reading this did not see the connection made above, 5 of the 20 people most heavily involved at the top with Mitt Romney's campaign, are connected to this little company in Texas that makes voting machines.

          The point of mine was not to prove this was entirely factual.  Tor meet your excessive burden of proof was  completely beyond my capacity. No, my point was to take an already existing news story and then probe whether or not it bore merit.  All I did was some original research and quickly checked which counties these machines were located, and then isolated those districts by precincts, then compared the 2008 to 2010 elections to see if even owning those machines could possibly make the difference in Ohio.

          All I really wanted to prove, was that crunching the numbers, if one does lose Obama votes in just two of these districts, and there are tons of others, the election could be flipped....
          How is this unlike Jame O'Keefe, or Donald Trump?  By some stretch, opponents could say it is similar.  That I'll grant.  However, at this late point, most minds are made up, and there is little one can do to change how one will vote..  

          The point is, as in football, that if you know a blitz is coming, you can counteract it.  In this case it takes one or two volunteers at each polling place, to simply record the number of whites and blacks who are voting.... Then compare that to the total.   5, 10, 15 votes will be the margin of error.  But in Cincinnati, if 1000 blacks walk through a precinct, and only 500 voted for Obama, plus the 100 whites, ... EVERYONE will know fraud took place.  Then you have the basis for a criminal investigation.......  If you are not watching, and you do not have the evidence, then you won't get anything off the ground and the fraud get away with being undetected...

          My point, is simply to illustrate the potential for a problem.  I do not need corporate documents to accomplish that.

          •  Thanks for responding (0+ / 0-)

            I think we both want the same thing ultimately.  But I urge caution on pushing things without facts at this point in the game.  I just don't want us to fall victim to James O'Keefe or his ilk ever, but particularly this close to the election.  

            I do have a question for those of you buying into election fraud through machines though.  How come nobody mentions the fire that consumed all the Hart Intercivic voting machines in Houston, Harris County, Texas two week prior to the 2010 elections?  The fire was deemed an accident by the local fire department, but did the feds investigate?  The county purchased all new Hart Intercivic machines for future elections. It's not my bailiwick, but I am curious.  

            Myself, I spend my time following and trolling Catherine Engelbrecht and True the Vote.  As a retired banker, I'm plenty familiar with asking the SOS for corporate docs and knowing what is contained in them, so I don't need schooling in that regard.  I have a ton of documentation on Catherine and her family;  I find her group of associates reprehensible and slimy.  So yeah, we're on the same page.  

            Thanks for responding and keeping it civil.  

            It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom — for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself. - The Declaration of Arbroath 1320

            by htowngenie on Mon Oct 22, 2012 at 09:18:43 AM PDT

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