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A burned car at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi after the Sept. 11 attack.
A burned car at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi after the Sept. 11 attack.
While their boss continues to avoid the issue in campaign stops, aides to Mitt Romney are practically begging the media to write about Benghazi. They and the Right, in general, view the Obama administration's reaction to the attack that killed four Americans in that eastern Libyan city as scandalous, and they're unable to understand why they can't get much traction for their latest claims that leaked State Department emails are proof that lies were told to Americans in the aftermath of the attack that left the U.S. consulate in Benghazi burned and looted.

Perhaps the failure of all but a few of the traditional big media to follow up on the story has to do with the fact that the emails don't prove any deception whatsoever.  

But if Romney's aides and advisers really want the media to keep talking about it, they should have their candidate talk about it. He's unlikely to go that route given the third-degree burns he incurred in the second debate. Libya was big on his advisers' minds in the preparation for that encounter. Their advice to Romney to get tough with Obama turned to ashes when the president replied with righteous anger to implications that he had played politics with the Libya attack and pointed out that he had in fact characterized it as an act of terror contrary to what Romney apparently had been led to believe would be a "gotcha!" moment. Romney was visibly shaken for the rest of the debate after that interaction and left the stage at the end with a stiff gait and a pinched face.

In the third debate Monday, Bob Schieffer gave Romney the perfect opportunity to get back some of the skin he lost in the previous debate by making the very first question about Libya. Romney didn't want to go there. And he apparently still doesn't. No surprise. The guy hates being criticized, and it's hard to imagine he wants another presidential scolding. So the behind-the-scenes folks want to make the media adopt their bogus theme. Why not? It so very often works.

On Thursday, for instance, Reuters reported that the emails showed that local extremists of the al Qaeda-connected Ansar al-Sharia group had immediately claimed credit for the attack on Twitter and its Facebook page. The Right shouted a collective "aha!" and tweeted and otherwise noted that this was sought-after proof of deceit. See? they said. The attack had nothing to do with the vulgar anti-Muslim video that some officials in the administration had said was the impetus behind the attack. It was these terrorists all along and the administation knew it, the Right said.

But the email was mistaken. Ansar al-Sharia had said it approved of the attack the day after it occurred, but the group did not take credit for having planned or launched or participated in it.

Thus the problem for the Right became that after the first round of stories on the emails, there has been nothing "scandalous" to follow up.

In fact, two journalists have demolished the claims that the leaked emails show deception. In the National Journal's Benghazi: The Real Libya Story Is No Story, Michael Hirsh wrote Wednesday:

The e-mails in question contained nothing more than “raw” intelligence, uncorroborated and unverified, that often flows in after an event. Intelligence officials typically don’t deliver their assessments until they have “finished” reports based on multiple sources, and corroborated evidence, and Obama officials such as [U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan] Rice certainly would not have been out in front of the TV cameras citing raw intelligence. And as the government’s most senior officials say, the Benghazi case has taken them a long time to finish. “People forget that a Palestinian group was the first to claim credit for 9/11,” the intelligence official said. “There was no message from the field in those first hectic days that would have eliminated questions or proven who was behind the attack.”
And Thursday, at Mother Jones, Adam Serwer wrote:
In fact, according to Aaron Zelin, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who monitors jihadist activity online, Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi didn't post about the attack on its Facebook or Twitter page until September 12, the day after the attack. They expressed their approval of the incident, but they didn't take credit; they did imply members of the group might have been involved, according to Zelin, stating, "Katibat Ansar al-Sharia [in Benghazi] as a military did not participate formally/officially and not by direct orders." The statement also implicitly justifies the attack by alluding to the anti-Islam video linked to unrest in other parts of the Middle East, saying, "We commend the Libyan Muslim people in Benghazi [that were] against the attack on the [Muslim] Prophet [Muhammad]."
As Serwer notes, the Right's reaction provides a good example of why everyone should be careful when engaging in amateur intelligence analysis. Combine cherry-picking with ignorance of the big picture plus partisan motivation and you can come out looking like an ass. That's exactly what happened to Mitt Romney in the second debate.

Originally posted to Meteor Blades on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 10:50 AM PDT.

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  •  Ahem. See the sig, 'nuff said. n/t (10+ / 0-)

    Every time Romney and Republicans mention Benghazi it proves they are the sort of opportunists that would mine for gold in a graveyard.

    by ontheleftcoast on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 10:55:53 AM PDT

  •  Seriously, Wingnuts (9+ / 0-)

    The Libya dog don't hunt anymore.

    Get Over It!

    Chicago--Proud Home of the 1907-08 World Series Champion Chicago Cubs

    by Jeff Y on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 10:58:56 AM PDT

  •  And here is yet (19+ / 0-)

    another of the zillion differences between the Romney and Obama campaigns.  Obama wants to know what the hell happened because he lost four dedicated Americans and he doesn't want to see it happen again.  

    Romney doesn't really want to know what happened -- he wants the best negative hypothetical he can find for political gain -- he doesn't give two shites about the sacrifice of four men.

    You'd think he'd want to open his yap about Benghazi to take the idiot TM's attention off of his not responding about Mourdock.

    Right now -- I'm hoping Hurricane Sandy does not prevent millions of us from voting if she hits the mid-Atlantic to NE.  Our inept power company execs seem not to know how to handle massive power outages -- other than massive clear cutting around lines after the fact.

    " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:00:15 AM PDT

  •  There's No There there, Dog won't hunt (5+ / 0-)

    All Smoke no Fire, Your cliche goes here.......

    The 1st Amendment gives you the right to say stupid things, the 1st Amendment doesn't guarantee a paycheck to say stupid things.

    by JML9999 on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:00:25 AM PDT

  •  Mitt should stick with what gets him the most (7+ / 0-)

    positive attention and feedback--writing in his human diary and posting it on dkos.

  •  Pull Out a Blank Map and Ask a Romney Staffer (6+ / 0-)

    to identify 1. Libya and 2. Benghazi.

  •  The real reason why Romney is silent on Benghazi (10+ / 0-)

    It isn't the debate slap down that he received. It is this in Tunisia .

    Which was then followed up by this last night in Egypt.

    They caught the first guy trying to get into Turkey, interogated him for a week, and now they are hunting down the other Benghazi perps. Romney brings it up and Obama can say that we have already caught two of the attackers.

    The story is fluid, I think they are hot on the trail of all the attackers at this time.

    •  A little surprised that catching the Benghazi... (2+ / 0-)
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      TheLizardKing, peregrinus

      attackers hasn't gotten much play here.

      •  One of the guys blew himself up... (3+ / 0-)
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        peregrinus, howd, llywrch

        ...and may or may not have been involved. The other has only been charged with being a member of a terrorist group. He's "implicated" in the attacks. But there is, as yet, no proof he was involved. So it's a bit premature to say that the Benghazi attackers have been caught.

        Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

        by Meteor Blades on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:26:40 AM PDT

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    •  Right, & no surprise that the Obama administration (0+ / 0-)

      ... didn't go around chattering about al-Qaeda right after the attack.  Better to keep the attackers in the dark for awhile, if possible.  Right?  Fucking DUH! GOP need to STFU -- they have absolutely no concept of a foreign policy based on substance instead of appearances.

      "Happiness is the only good. The place to be happy is here. The time to be happy is now. The way to be happy is to make others so." - Robert Ingersoll

      by dackmont on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 03:06:51 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  They mistakenly believe ... (3+ / 0-)

    ... that this is somwhow about equity or "fairness" ... it's not.

    Even with the dimwitted press we have now, you can only lie to them so much before you run out of favors.

    Plus, you're ugly and your music stinks.

    Made that last line up.

  •  1 suspect arrested Tunisia another killed Egypt (3+ / 0-)

    the noose is tightening on those who did it

    Im thinking it would not be in the best interest for romney to talk about Lybia in case Obama gives a press conference in coming days in prime time from WH that the perpetrators have been gotten ...ala the getting of Osama b Laden

  •  That train already (2+ / 0-)
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    sunbro, Greenfinches

    left the station.  It's time to talk about rape, now.

  •  The reason the Libya sally failed (4+ / 0-)

    is that Barack Obama decisively shoved it down Mitt Romney's throat in Debate 2, so decisively that nary a peep from the Mittster has been heard since then.

    Let the terriers yap, their "Big Dog" won't hunt any more than that story did.

    Still enjoying my stimulus package.

    by Kevvboy on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:03:22 AM PDT

  •  Romney is also now getting intelligence (3+ / 0-)

    briefings and he may know something that hasn't been reported.

    •  Are sure he's getting briefings? (1+ / 0-)
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      DSPS owl

      Last time he received briefings, he blabbed to the whole world about it. Managed to piss off MI6 for saying they spoke to him -- MI6 likes to keep a low profile.

      I figure if he was actually receiving intelligence briefings, he'd be in competition with Darrel Issa for biggest security leak in the US. (Or maybe they just send him the PR releases the State Department issues on a daily basis, & tell him they're intelligence briefings.)

  •  be realistic my right wing "friends" (0+ / 0-)

    if this weren't a campaign season this story would be extremely old news by now... and despite your protestations, it's getting moldy.

  •  But the National Journal and Mother Jones (0+ / 0-)

    don't count as mainstream media to the right wing.  The outrage, to them, is that National Journal and Mother Jones are taking the liberal line because...well, because they're liberal and can't be trusted to tell the "truth."  It has to be Fox News or the Washington Times or the New Republic that covers an event before they'll accept the account.  

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

    by SueDe on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:09:47 AM PDT

  •  Worth noting that the Gs & their media outlets (1+ / 0-)
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    have been trying to brand this, hyperbolically, as an assasination. I haven't seen any evidence that they wanted to do more than destroy the building.  Chris Stevens, God love him, succumbed to smoke inhalation because he remained in a building choked with smoke, perhaps out of an overabundance of courage.

    Romney: Wrong on GM. Wrong on bin Laden. Wrong on tax cuts. Wrong on austerity. Wrong on Medicare. Wrong on the 47%. Wrong for America.

    by SGWM on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:11:05 AM PDT

  •  Benghazi v. Weapons of Mass Destruction (1+ / 0-)
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    I'd like to see a bar chart, comparing the length of time (1) between WMD/mushroom clouds to "oops" and (2)  assault on consulate to now.

  •  Intelligence briefings (3+ / 0-)

    I'm wondering if his silenced is based on information he's received during his intelligence briefings (customary that candidate receives briefings).  If he's been provided information that Obama has regarding the assault and investigation, maybe he's realized it's not worth pursuing.  Maybe his staff doesn't have access to this info.

  •  Romney was stunned to be called, "Offensive," (2+ / 0-)
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    OldDragon, Greenfinches

    for his remarks by the President of the United States. Obama shamed him enough that it was a politically mortal wound if Romney vented his anger. Romney will swallow it or feign a bit, but once bit, you don't try for a second act on the same stage.

    Hope has a hole in it when Republicans come, bringing shackles and sorrow; branding their greed on the backs of the poor. - Wendy Connors

    by Wendys Wink on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:13:58 AM PDT

  •  i still dislike the disturbing fact that following (1+ / 0-)
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    both benghazi and the bin laden hit very self serving and misleading statements were made by highly placed administration officials.  i don't believe it's accidental.

    just like i disliked bush policy of domestic psy-ops campaigns and faux independent general/dod spokesmen.

    it's a shame the republicans are trying to score cheap political points off the inevitable losses sustained in maintaining an empire.  losses they too will sustain, but i am finding myself even more skeptical of administration national security claims than i ordinarily am.

    things like this don't help.

    romney just won't be any better, but he'll be starting with the tools firmly entrenched.

    A standing army is like a standing member. It's an excellent assurance of domestic tranquility, but a dangerous temptation to foreign adventure. Elbridge Gerry - Constitutional Convention (1787)

    by No Exit on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:14:23 AM PDT

    •  BinLaudin details (0+ / 0-)

      Bowden talking on Sully.

      1. Silicon Valley geeks contracted to data mine the intell databases.

      2. Seal commander planned to hunker down and negotiate if Pakistanis caught them.   O-man says hell no! Bulk up enough to fight your way out.  

      Feels a little like we're being rolled into Obama's October surprise.

      Barack Hussein Obama- Don't Mock the Constitution.

      by odenthal on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:23:26 AM PDT

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  •  Yesterday I looked at a polling graph here @DK (0+ / 0-)

    that showed the president & Romney over the last several months, with markers on the debates.  I think I saw that the president's numbers were falling hard before the 1st debate, and I was guessing that it had to do with the Benghazi tragedy.  

    Arab country, US flags burning, people screaming, embassy security breached, etc . . . we all saw Romney make a fool of himself with that stupid press statement, but the people half paying attention saw Iran, 1979.  It fed the narrative they've been trying so hard to build -- Obama is Carter all over again.

    That's why they won't let go of it.

  •  Qui Bono? (0+ / 0-)

    I don't even get this whole thing.

    WHY would the O Admin "lie" about this? How does it hurt O to say "this is a terrorist attack" vs. "a spontaneous demonstration"? Both are equally open to charges of dropping the ball on security, etc.

    What exactly is the accusation?? I don't get it.

    •  GOP wants to spread.... (0+ / 0-)

      ....Obama "soft on terror" theme. So, if he didn't label attack an act of terror that gives them a foothold, they believe.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 05:17:42 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  my RW e-mail group (0+ / 0-)

    I really don't like exchanging e-mails with this group, but I do it for my friend Bob who is a lefty.

    so I got a cartoon I said it's starts of with a lie so I din't read it.
    I said Obama said it was an act of terror the next day in the Rose Garden.

    this was a reply:

    I'll channel my inner John McEnroe - You cannot be serious.

    What did he call an act of terror?  "No acts of terror..."  I'm a simple man, so if your going to call it a terrorist attack, would you use such subtle double speak at the end of a speech right after your talking about 9/11?  He didn't call "it" an act of terror, nor did he say "No acts of terror such as those on in Benghazi..."   In the third paragraph, he had his shot at calling the attacks a terrorist attack by stating "this outrageous and shocking terrorist attack", but he didn't. He did lay the foundation for the "video" being the cause by stating in the fourth paragraph that we respect all faiths, etc.  Don't for one second believe that the double speak and subtleness of all of this was an innocent use of language.  I'm fortunate to have a PR firm on retainer to assist me in writing speeches and editorials to the media and we labor hours over "the", "it", and subtle uses of phrases as does every speech writer.   He did not single out Benghazi as a terrorist act.

    If that isn't proof enough, humor and tell me why he then claimed it was a response to the video on Univision (see transcript below, 9/20!), the UN (9/27!) and on his first appearance on David Letterman, and then The View (when he didn't have time to meet with the PM of Israel).

    Just like Reagan screwed up with Iran Contra and others, Obama didn't part the seas, he's human and he screwed up and lied, just face it.  There is no other way around all of the use of the "video" for weeks to come back and say he called it a terrorist strike on our people.

    You can read today's news that the White House was informed within 2 hours that a terrorist organization was taking credit for the "act of terror".

  •  Am I the only one offended by this hypocricy? (10+ / 0-)

    When a GOP President ignored specific warnings of a terrorist attack on American soil, nearly 3000 innocent people were killed going about their daily business. Did the GOP Congress investigate this? NEVER! In fact, their stance was that any questioning about how their President could have avoided this was tantamount to treason.

    Yet when four Americans, all of whom had voluntarily accepted dangerous employment, were killed on foreign soil, a GOP House which had been too busy campaigning to deal with urgent national and economic issues suddenly came rushing back to DC to hold hearings - to score political points, not to shed any light on the issue.

    I suppose when Obama is re-elected and if we continue to have a GOP House, they will hold hearings blaming Obama every time an American soldier is injured in Afghanistan.

    Democracy - Not Plutocracy!

    by vulcangrrl on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:19:40 AM PDT

  •  but romney agrees with obama on (0+ / 0-)

    all foreign policy issues.

    •  one of two reasons... (0+ / 0-)

      he doesn't want his ass publicly blistered a second time by the president on the topic of Benghazi


      he somehow believes if he adopts O's foreign policy at the very last minute, he'll steal away a whole bunch of know, from the "democrat party", who seems to have an awfulot of confidence in how O engages over seas.

      wide-eyed, breathless and wonderfilled, our mittens

      also shuffle-footed


      "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

      by Sybil Liberty on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:37:25 AM PDT

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  •  Claims of responsibility mean nothing (4+ / 0-)

    As a three-decade veteran of the Foreign Service, I can tell you that after almost any incident -- a bombing, an airplane crash, a building collapse, and even natural disasters like earthquakes -- various groups claim 'responsibility' for having cause the death and destruction.  Ninety-nine times out of 100, the claims are false, with the groups just attempting to get their name into the news.  The notion that national security officials might say 'Aha! We've got an admission' and believes such claims is absurd.  And the notion that anyone -- Republican or Democrat, Foreign Service officer or intelligence agent, newspaper reporter or TV talking head -- can immediately discern the truth about such an event is ludicrous.  

  •   (0+ / 0-)

    It's funny how both Romney and Ryan are not doing interviews with real media outlets. It's "let's not F this up" time and hope no one will notice.

  •  Romney's first ill-timed, misguided statement (1+ / 0-)
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    on Libya was a harsh criticism of communications from State Dept personnel in the area trying to quell the anger of people who were incensed by the video.  He should have mentioned then that the video was not related to the violence, and that he knew better than the people on site.

    Your request has bad syntax or is inherently impossible to satisfy. --httpd_err400form

    by Bob Novak Douchebag of Liberty on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:22:38 AM PDT

  •  Romney is getting smart. (1+ / 0-)
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    Instead of doubling down on the things that make him look so bad, he just refuses to talk about them, and goes on his merry way making shit up.

    When you don't vote, Mitt happens.

    by shoeless on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:26:35 AM PDT

  •  Go to this Wiki link and look at (1+ / 0-)
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    all of the attacks against our consulates and embassies during BUSH's reign of terror.

    The deaths total 60.... HUM, maybe that is why former SOS Rice is telling the GOP to chill out on the Benghazi stuff...

    -6.13 -4.4 Where are you? Take the Test!!!

    by MarciaJ720 on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:30:54 AM PDT

  •  Scandal can shift an election. (2+ / 0-)
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    No Exit, Ellen Columbo

    Scandals can turn a winner to a loser overnight.  It's been proven many times with both parties.

    But there are scandals and then there are scandals. It seems the public now tolerates many things that were once scandalous, and, at the same time, have some tolerance for the President's vocal mistakes. Even worse, they seem to trust his judgement, and mostly agree with his relentless hunting down of our enemies.

    All that doesn't give the conservatives much that has any potential to work with. When Obama  answered Bob Shieffer's question with "I'll bring them to justice.", I believe most Americans took him on his word for that, as he has done so many times recently.

    At the same time, Mitt is smart enough to realize there is nothing in the Benghazi incident for him. If he wins, he will be the one who will have to deal with the perpetrators. He jumped on it during the second debate and it bit him in the ass. He wasn't about to be bitten twice.

    Don't succumb to the conservative fact and date tweaking. If the impulse to respond is compelling, just stick with the point that Obama will find the right guys, hunt them down, and bring them to justice.

    It's hard to argue with that truth, and most Americans agree. They know it may take some time, but they give the President that time. It's infuriating for the right, but that's how it is.

    Right many are called, and damn few are chosen.

    by Idaho07 on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:32:18 AM PDT

  •  Very good sign.. (3+ / 0-)
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    ...that they won't let this story go.

    It's a total loser, no upside to be had because there is just no way to get a clear picture of what really happened in such a short time frame.

    Even after congressional investigations of incidents like this, often times there is no "smoking gun" when trying to pin the blame on someone or something.

    The republicans really have an achilles heel for stories like this, they just can't resist going dumpster diving.

    "Fast and Furious", same thing.

    Their desperation is showing again.

    "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

    by jkay on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:32:47 AM PDT

    •  Dumpster Diving is Right (0+ / 0-)

      I Hope they enjoy the View and the pleasant surroundings.

      They are going to be spending a LOT of time there in the
      Near Future.

      On Giving Advice: Smart People Don't Need It and Stupid People Don't Listen

      by Brian76239 on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:46:02 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  This is interesting.... (1+ / 0-)
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    DSPS owl

    Because you have to consider that if Romney & Co. would pounce on early intelligence now, they might do the same in office and for political reasons. We don't want someone with an itchy trigger finger to run foreign poilcy -- we already went through that with Bush/Cheney.

  •  Hmm-"Special Ops Sent to US Emb'sies months before (0+ / 0-)

    militants launched the fiery attack that killed the U.S. ambassador in Libya.

    Oddly enough, neither Romney, Romney's Campaign people, the GOP, the Democrats, nor the Media seem to want to set the record straight:  Obama was aware of potential threats to US Embassies throughout the Middle East, and had taken actions to deal with that security threat.  

    Small teams of special operations forces arrived at American embassies throughout north Africa in the months before militants launched the fiery attack that killed the U.S. ambassador in Libya. The soldiers' mission: Set up a network that could quickly strike a terrorist target or rescue a hostage.

    The White House signed off a year ago on the plan to build the new military counterterrorism task force in the region, and the advance teams have been there for six months, according to three U.S. counterterrorism officials and a former intelligence official.

    Obviously no one, not even  St. Ronnie nor GWB have been able to prevent attacks on US interests.  At least Obama has been more proactive, and effective than either of those two POTUS's in doing so.
  •  And furthermore (2+ / 0-)
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    Remember when the Reps were screaming and yelling "treason" about documents being released about the bin Laden killing?  How dare the administration demonstrate its competence, they whined.

    So why, then, is it not now treason for the House Reps to publicly release internal, classified documents about the Benghazi attack?

    Oh, right, I keep forgetting.  It's OK if you are a Republican.

    It's OK to run up debt.
    It's OK to control individuals' private lives.
    It's OK to have sex with members of your staff.
    It's OK to commit election fraud.
    It's OK to ignore the Constitution, law, and common sense.
    It's OK to start wars with no reason, no goal, and no end.
    It's OK to commit treason.

    All part of the game.

    In Washington, whenever anyone does something wrong, everyone else gets punished.

    by Noziglia on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:38:17 AM PDT

  •  Maybe the Romney campaign thought (0+ / 0-)

    a nice game of pickup football would make the media beholden to their wishes?

    [America's] ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. - President Barack Hussein Obama

    by PJHood on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 11:39:29 AM PDT

  •  Who's pushing story (1+ / 0-)
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    DSPS owl

    The only people pushing this story is Fox News and right wing radio talk show hosts.  They all get their talking points each mornng as to which stories to push on their echo chambers.  Fox News runs the same video of the burning consulate every morning.  Than their talking head guests and hosts come on to spin another tale.

    I am outraged that 4 Americans are killed and they choose to make it a political issue.  Why not investigate into who may have committed these murders instead trying to manufacture a story?  But that would mean having real reporters on the ground doing investigative journalism.  But Fox News and their radio counterparts only have folks that can offer opinion not news.

  •  No Traction (1+ / 0-)
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    DSPS owl

    The story is played out. What's really revolting is how long this meaningless excuse for a story commanded headlines.

    Now Romney's campaign is desperate.  They lost the media war for the majority of this past week.  They are losing it today with Powell and Mourdock.  They pushed the baseless "Romney Momentum" meme and it too is sputtering.

    Romney's media team is grasping for straws at this point.

  •  Erin Burnett and Anderson Cooper (0+ / 0-)

    both have been all in on sucking up the right wing talking points on Libya.  I swear they've led off 80% of their shows the past month with "Breaking News" about Libya.  Most of it is right wing ginned up shit.  It's just like what Sec Clinton said yesterday.  Gather information as a whole and analyze what happen and stop just taking one piece of info in what was a very volitole event.  

  •  It's Old News™ -- one of the few times (0+ / 0-)

    Americans' short attention span is a plus.

    Progressive Candidate Obama (now - Nov 6, 2012)
    Bipartisan Obama returns (Nov 7, 2012)

    by The Dead Man on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 12:03:32 PM PDT

  •  sounds like why we went to Iraq... (1+ / 0-)
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    Combine cherry-picking with ignorance of the big picture plus partisan motivation and you can come out looking like an ass. That's exactly what happened to Mitt Romney in the second debate.
  •  Good,let them (0+ / 0-)

    If they are so desperate as to think the CIA uses Facebook to gather end all and be all for this nation's intelligence, then let them talk themselves out of credibility.

  •  Manufactured outrage, genuine ignorance (1+ / 0-)
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    and craven political opportunism.

    That they had the unmitigated gall to get out in front of the story and the White House is disgusting and should be universally denounced.

    Have you hugged your Boeuf Bourguignon today?

    by wretchedhive on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 12:17:18 PM PDT

  •  The real story is Darryl Issa (0+ / 0-)

    His dump of sensitive documents in order to try and make the president look bad in Libya is the REAL scandal.  There's a word for what he did... I think it starts with the letter "t."  Can somebody help me?

    The man of great wealth owes a particular obligation to the State because he derives special advantages from the mere existence of government. -T. Roosevelt

    by rudeboy on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 12:29:10 PM PDT

  •  indoctrinated dogs (1+ / 0-)
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    yesterday, a friend asked me to go to her house to let her dogs out since she, unexpectedly, could not get away from work to do it herself.

    her husband, an avid Fox and Rush fan, died over a year ago.  they always left a portable radio turned on "for the dogs" and it was always tuned to an AM right wing talk station.  the tuner hasn't budged since the husband died, so when i was looking in on the dogs and finally sat down with them on the sofa (to give them some luvin') my ears tuned into the radio.

    i couldn't believe that more than a month and a half since the Benghazi attacks that right wing talk radio continues to make try to make a story of this.  i don't know who the female host was but the right seems determined not to let this go.  it's no wonder that Romney flubbed in the debate on this issue.  what i could not determine, from what i heard, is whether it is typical Fox News stuff that tries to make a story out of nothing or if they keep trying to press the topic to make it seem like Romney was not wrong on Libya in the debate.

    that topic aside, do dogs really find having a radio on to be comforting?  seems to me they would appreciate the silence more than hearing constant noise in the house.

    I'm a blue drop in a red bucket.

    by blue drop on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 02:42:38 PM PDT

  •  Maybe Administration was faking out al-Qaeda? (0+ / 0-)

    Seriously.  What if the Obama administration intentionally didn't mention al-Qaeda at first?  Remember how Bush didn't mention a-Q at first after 9/11, and then got pissed when Hatch mentioned it on national TV?  Sometimes it's a good idea not to let the people you're hunting know that you're hunting them.

    Sheesh.  This is pure "gotcha" from the GOP.  It's not as bad as outing Valerie Plame, which was downright reckless and treasonous, but it's still playing with fire.  To think that once upon a time foreign policy used to be more or less bipartisan.

    "Happiness is the only good. The place to be happy is here. The time to be happy is now. The way to be happy is to make others so." - Robert Ingersoll

    by dackmont on Thu Oct 25, 2012 at 02:56:10 PM PDT

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