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Mitt Romney - 08/20/2012
This is ... some nerve. Mitt Romney is lying about one set of American jobs going to China in order to scare people into thinking that electing him is the way to keep those jobs here. All the while, he's profiting from another set of jobs actually being sent to China, and claiming he has nothing to do with it.

Let's untangle the levels of nerve here. Romney is claiming that the way to keep Chrysler from moving Jeep production to China is to elect Mitt Romney. In fact, not only is Chrysler not moving Jeep production to China, it's expanding Jeep production in Michigan and Ohio. But don't worry, if you vote for Romney, he'll fight for every one of those jobs to be kept right here in America.

Meanwhile, Sensata Technologies is closing an American plant and sending 170 jobs to China. That's happening right now. People are losing their jobs. Sensata is controlled by Bain Capital, the company Romney founded and ran. Romney has large personal investments in Sensata and has already reaped significant tax breaks by giving Sensata stock to his own charitable foundation, the one he uses to support things like "pray away the gay" groups. When it comes to this thing that's actually happening, that he's profiting from, Romney has a million excuses for how he's not responsible, has nothing to do with it, can't even speak out against it, and oh, by the way, did you know that President Barack Obama has as much as $11 of a pension he doesn't control that's related to Sensata?

This is Mitt Romney in a nutshell: lying, promising to fight job losses (that aren't happening) if he can pin them on Obama, refusing to talk about job losses (that are happening) if he's profiting from them.

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Originally posted to Daily Kos Labor on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:21 AM PDT.

Also republished by In Support of Labor and Unions and Daily Kos.

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  •  Mitt Romney is speaking live on MSNBC right (10+ / 0-)

    now.... and he is an asshole...and a liar.

    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness

    by CTMET on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:22:17 AM PDT

  •  economic speech? (12+ / 0-)

    he just mentioned "jihadists" and "sharia".....

    he also just told the story about a "guy" he met in WI that used to make $20.00/hr and now makes $8.00/hr......these numbers are down from yesterday when he said $25.00 and $9.00 hr............deflation???

    lots of lies.....all of them.

    crowd sound small, either that or they won't applaud the lies he is telling.

    now....solyndra, killed the keystone pipeline, foodstamps, poverty, did not inherit a bad economy, O's policies are the issue...

    hope he mentions the Jeep incident and Senata....

  •  O's tax plan will cost 700k jobs... (6+ / 0-)

    ...already has been proven to be false per fact checkers....

    "trickle down government"

    "renew power of free people"

    "kill obamacare"

    "better gas mileage for cars".....O has that covered already, mittens.

    no solar, no wind power investments, more coals

    open more markets

    make america the best place for job creators

    bogus tax plan (again)

    no teacher unions

    12 million jobs

    help for america's middle class

    nothing new here, folks, move along.....

  •  How Politico reported this: "He said/they said" (13+ / 0-)

    One of the myriad of pathetic shits who attempts to pass for "reporters" at Politico -- in this case, one James Hohmann -- plays this off as simply another case of "Romney-says vs. Obama-campaign-says" instead of bothering to check the veracity of Romney's blatant lie.

    Here's how Hohmann played it in his piece, now nestled on Politico's home page:

    Mitt Romney plays offense on autos

    Then the Republican nominee warned that a major employer in nearby Toledo is considering shipping auto jobs overseas.

    “I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state, Jeep, now owned by the Italians, is thinking of moving all production to China,” Romney told a crowd of some 12,000 at a high school football stadium. “I will fight for every good job in America, I’m going to fight to make sure trade is fair, and if it’s fair, America will win.”


    The Obama campaign quickly released a statement criticizing Romney’s comments about Jeep.

    “As Chrysler said today, ‘Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China,’” the campaign emailed reporters. “And what’s more: President Obama has fought on behalf of U.S. auto workers by challenging unfair Chinese tariffs on U.S. auto exports to China, including Jeeps, while Romney would have let the American auto industry and a million jobs go under.”

    Did this lazy shit of a "reporter" bother to read the Bloomberg news piece about Jeep's plans? Or did he bother to check with Chrysler to see if this was true? Or did his editors at Politico follow up or bother to read what Chrysler and the Bloomberg piece actually reported?

    Fuck no!

    Instead, this "reporter" and his editors at Politico frame up this blatant falsehood on Romney's part as simply another example of "politics as usual."

    It is no such thing, you fucking lazy turds.

    At least Chrysler sets the record straight.

    You'd think the assholes at Politico would correct their shoddy "journalism" and point out that Romney was just flat out wrong.

    But that would be expecting far too much.

    •  disgusting nt (1+ / 0-)
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      "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

      by eXtina on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:52:44 AM PDT

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    •  But, Mitt "saw a story" (0+ / 0-)

      so it must be true - both for Mitt and Politico.

      Wonder if he's ever seen a story about human induced climate change?  

    •  The rightwing American press (0+ / 0-)

      is no better than the North Korean press.  But that makes it a perfect fit with Republicans who have the sophisticated grasp of political reality as their North Korean counterparts.

    •  I fucking hate the media (0+ / 0-)

      almost as much as I hate Romney.

      CNN has called it: Luke Skywalker vs. the Death Star is a tie!

      by GOPGO2H3LL on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 12:55:36 PM PDT

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    •  Chrysler put the Republican fantasies down hard. (3+ / 0-)
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      Chrysler Statement

      Let’s set the record straight: Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China. It’s simply reviewing the opportunities to return Jeep output to China for the world’s largest auto market. U.S. Jeep assembly lines will continue to stay in operation. A careful and unbiased reading of the Bloomberg take would have saved unnecessary fantasies and extravagant comments.
    •  I read a nice article on a financial press webpage (0+ / 0-)

      and they had an interesting perspective: Not that Romney is intentionally lying, but that he and his staff didn't understand the Bloomberg write-up, or perhaps, he just skimmed it

      More and more, I think that Romney really isn't very bright at all. He became CEO because he surrounded himself with smart motivated people. But his current staff is worn out and just generally tired of all of this.  

      And the question for Americans is didn't we already see this play?  Don't we remember how it turned out?

      GWB top-sheeted the infamous 9/11 memo, and we know the result of that. GWB was hands-off and let government be hands-off. And we ended up in an economic death spiral.

      And we have Mitt, who seems to be dumber than W,  and less inclined to do the actual work to govern.


      © grover

      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 03:14:15 PM PDT

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      •  grover - Romney may be a lot of things (0+ / 0-)

        we don't like, but he is bright. Everyone who is a Baker Scholar at the Harvard Business School (top 5%) and an honors graduate of Harvard Law School, and earns both degrees simultaneously, is bright. I just think he is not politically savvy.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 03:44:21 PM PDT

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        •  Idiot-savant. (0+ / 0-)

          I know that one. My father is ferociously intelligent -- in certain areas. A clue about human nature? Nope, he hasn't got one. How someone can carry around the bulk of recorded history in their head and still be so incredibly naive is beyond me.

          Brilliance in a specialized field does not rule out the possibility of absolute dunder-headedness in almost every other arena.

    •  You do not understand... (0+ / 0-)

      Romney will win the election and then send those jobs to China so technically he is not lying about this

      We only think nothing goes without saying.

      by Hamtree on Sat Oct 27, 2012 at 06:24:44 PM PDT

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  •  $716 billion in medicare cuts... (3+ / 0-)
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    sc kitty, Justus, AmazingBlaise

    ......which Greg Kessler just wrote he is tired of fact checking.

    consumer choice for healthcare

    "i know something about leading"

    MA, 85% democrats, blah, blah, blah........cut deficit (exceot for $1.0 billion deficit when he left office).

    need to stand up for middle class, not corporations......sure.

    iran...prevent them buliding a nuclear bomb

    china is our friend

    seize the moment. seniors will feel secure about their benefits.....


    our time has come

    our campaign is about that change, dealing with economic problems that have not been addressed in ten years...........(like adding $7 trillion to the deficit).

    I thin someone is holding up applause sign at key moments

    not one damn new thing.....more bullshit.

    "god bless america"

  •  Aren't Romney's investments in a blind trust? (1+ / 0-)
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    And, if he went so far as to get involved in the management decisions of the companies he's invested in, I question whether that would violate the terms of the blind trust.  Clearly, that's the kind of thing a blind trust set up by those seeking political office is designed to prevent -- they put their investments in a blind trust precisely so that they won't use their political position to influence the companies, and vice versa.  The whole point is to put a wall between the two.

    Certainly, he can give the trustee of the trust some general direction -- like "I only want to have my money in American companies" or "I don't want any investments in tobacco companies."  But if a president, for example, has Exxon stock in a blind trust, I think it would be clearly improper for him to go to the management of Exxon and say, "I think you should do x, y, and z."

    That's why I've never understood the demand for Romney to tell the management of that company what they should do.  Clearly, shutting down the plant is tragic for many. But I'm not sure a politician who has an investment in that company through a blind trust should be using that investment as a basis for telling the company what to do. That raises the whole conflict of interest that a blind trust is supposed to prevent.  

    Now, if I'm wrong about that, and he has direct investments that are not part of his blind trust, I would see the point.  

    •  oh yeah, it's blind all right (4+ / 0-)

      including that amazing coincidence where it lent Taggster $10MM to start his business. Why isn't it lending me any money?

      "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

      by eXtina on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:54:14 AM PDT

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    •  Romney's so-called blind trust (6+ / 0-)

      does not meet the criteria for blind trusts. It's run by his personal lawyer.

      •  Which criteria? (0+ / 0-)

        I know it doesn't, as of now, meet the federal criteria for political blind trust (presumably, it would have to if he were elected).  But not every blind trust meets the federal criteria -- they can be a "blind trust" under the terms of the trust agreement. I can set up a blind trust if I want, and I'm not a elected office holder.  Even LegalZoom has basic instructions about how to do it.

        Seems to me that even if his blind trust is set up pursuant to the trust agreement (rather than the law applying to federal officeholders) it would violate the terms of that trust agreement for him to involve himself in the management of the companies based on the investments held by the trust.

    •  Perhaps while you're explaining ... (3+ / 0-)
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      ...the purpose of a blind trust you could also explain why Romney's blind trust does not meet the elementary requirements that make blind trusts blind.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 11:04:56 AM PDT

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      •  Which requirements? (0+ / 0-)

        I know his trust doesn't meet the federal requirements for federal officeholders.  (In the unlikely even that he's elected, presumably he will have to change that.)

        But that's not the only "requirements" for a blind trust.  Anybody can set up one -- as I said above, even LegalZoom has instructions.  And LegalZoom talks about blind trusts for lottery winners. Most states, whether through statute or court cases, recognize the validity of blind trusts.  I've seen no indication that his blind trust doesn't meet those kinds of requirements.

        •  So you think it meets the smell test... (4+ / 0-)
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          coquiero, AmazingBlaise, grover, Kimba

          ...that the guy who runs his "blind" trust is his personal lawyer? Because if you do, I have some gold mines in Mali I'd like you to invest in.

          Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

          by Meteor Blades on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 11:15:35 AM PDT

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          •  That's not all that unusual in my experience (1+ / 0-)
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            I'm a lawyer, by the way.

            And really really rich people often have their lawyer as the trustee.  The parameters are generally set forth in the trust agreement.  The trustee has a fiduciary obligation to the trust beneficiary (Romney) to handle the trust investments in way that benefit the beneficiary.  That's what a trustee is supposed to do.  That's why a personal lawyer -- who already has that fiduciary obligation to his client -- is often trustee.  

            The trustee is supposed to make investment decisions that benefit the trust beneficiary.  So I'm not sure why it doesn't pass the "smell test" for his lawyer to be trustee.  Presumably, in the trust instrument, Romney set forth the parameters under which the trustee operates (any particular types of investments he doesn't want, the level of risk he wants) and the trustee is executing those instructions in a way that benefits the beneficiary (Romney) who set up the trust.

            The "blind" part generally just means that in the trust instrument, the trustee has autonomy within those parameters and is not supposed to inform the beneficiary as to the specifics of the investments, and the beneficiary doesn't get involved in the management of those investments, so as to keep those investments from influencing other things the beneficiary does.  

            •  while you are probably (1+ / 0-)
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              correct about the rules for a "blind" trust-  Romney7 and his wife have repeatedly stated that they have no idea what is in their trust...  bs at its finest.

              As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

              by BPARTR on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 11:36:36 AM PDT

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              •  But back to my initial question (2+ / 0-)
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                I'm sure they do know at least some things, simply because it's in the public domain.  Clearly, they know that they put their investment in Bain in that trust, and at least some of Bain's investments are public knowledge, so that's no secret.

                But the purpose of the blind trust is to erect a wall between the beneficiary and the investments -- the beneficiary is not supposed to get involved in the management of the assets in the trust, and the beneficiary is not supposed to let the nature of the assets in the trust influence his other actions.  

                So, back to my original question -- if the asset is in a blind trust (whether Romney and his wife know what's in that trust or not) it seems to me that Romney has no  basis to involve himself in the management of companies based solely on the fact that his blind trust has an investment in a company (Bain) that has an investment in that company.  

                So, what's the basis for calling upon Romney to tell the management of this company what to do?

            •  You see, THIS is the part that doesn't pass... (2+ / 0-)
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              coquiero, AmazingBlaise

              ...the smell test:  "...and is not supposed to inform the beneficiary as to the specifics of the investments."

              Not supposed to. But who believes that is how things actually go when the trustee is a personal lawyer? There is simply no way to know — but given Mitt Romney's penchant for brazen lying — I'll just suggest here that he may be lying about how blind this trust actually is.

              Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

              by Meteor Blades on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 11:45:40 AM PDT

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              •  Well, you have to believe the lawyer is a liar as (1+ / 0-)
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                well. And if you look at him, the lawyer has a pretty stellar reputation.  (Many of those honors he's gotten are peer review type things that I'm familiar with.)

                But I don't doubt that Romney knows, for example, that the blind trust holds his investment in Bain. He put that in the trust himself when he set the trust up, so of course he knows it's there.  And, when one of Bain's investments is public, of course anybody but an idiot would know what that means.  That doesn't mean the trust isn't a "blind" trust.  That means that the trustee gets all the details on that Bain investment from Bain (how much of an interest in Bain Romney holds today has today, what that is worth, how that investment is performing, a detail listing of all of Bain's investments in other companies and how much of an interest Bain has in those companies, etc.), and Romney does not -- he only gets an overall statement from the trustee about how the overall trust is doing.  Romney would know the fact that the trust holds an interest in Bain (because he put it there), and that Bain owns an interest in this company (because that fact is in the public domain) but not any of the details unless those are also in the public domain. (The beneficiary of a blind trust is not expected to shield himself from facts in the public domain -- he simply doesn't get the confidential information that particular Bain entity provides to its investors.)

                But back to my original question -- what's the basis for expecting Romney to intervene in the management of a company based on the fact that the blind trust of which he is the beneficiary holds an interest in a company that holds an interest in this other company? I mean, I completely understand the tragedy it is for these workers to lose their jobs and for the jobs to be sent overseas.  And I completely understand using it as an example.  What I don't understand is the call for Romney to tell the management of this company what to do.  

  •  I knew it was just a matter of time (2+ / 0-)
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    FightinginVA, coquiero

    before Romney accused the President of shipping jobs to China.

  •  My Favorite Pic of Romney Accessorizing (1+ / 0-)
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    Readers & Book Lovers Pull up a chair! You're never too old to be a Meta Groupie

    by Limelite on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 12:38:43 PM PDT

  •  IT TAKES SOME BRASS (2+ / 0-)
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    ShowMeMoBlue, Icicle68

    to accuse the other guy of doing what you did!

  •  Is anyone pressing him on this? (0+ / 0-)

    Or just taking steno notes?

  •  Pretty much all of TPM's +1 Romney comes from (0+ / 0-)

    Gallup and Rasmussen.  Remove them, and it's Obama +.5.

  •  The reason that Romney is doing as well as he is (5+ / 0-)

    has to be because people can't - and won't - believe that anyone can be such a ruthless and unprincipled liar.  It goes against most people's fundamental understanding of human nature that anyone would be like this, especially if they are running for President.  

    The problem is, we are seeing this.  THis is what it is.  

    I hope enough people wake up that the loss this generates causes future candidates to decide that this is most definitely not a good example to follow.

    If he wins, I am very concerned that many people will conclude that this level of mendacity is actually a good idea.  

    hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

    by Stuart Heady on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 12:43:56 PM PDT

    •  I agree one hundred per cent: the American (1+ / 0-)
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      people may joke about it, but deep down they don't believe our country and system would let a person who is a mendacious liar become president.  

      In a sense, Mitt is daring them: "Who you gonna believe, me or your own lying eyes?" as the Pryor punch line goes.   And lots of Americans will pick Mitt.

      "Binder? I just met her!"

      by Inland on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 12:54:42 PM PDT

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    •  The simple fact that Romney has been able (1+ / 0-)
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      to get away with as much outright lying as he has (and still is) -- regardless of the outcome November 8th 6th -- pretty much seals the fate of mainline media trustworthiness going forward (as if there was much left when we started this).

      Romney started this campaign with a completely misleading TV ad and has done nothing but go downhill from there.

      If Romney were a real man he'd have put a stop to it from the beginning.

      But he's not. He's a sleazy sack of shit who will lie directly to someone's face when he feels he'll gain an inch or save a nickel by doing so.

      World leaders take heed: he won't run this country any differently than he ran Bain or any differently than he's run his campaign or for that matter his entire life... and he certainly won't treat you any differently than he's treated the American people. He's an opportunistic, serial liar.

      It should tell you something about his "faith" as well.

      It's not so much the "small government" part that worries me. It's how they want to fill the gap.

      by here4tehbeer on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 01:23:44 PM PDT

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  •  Complete bullshit (3+ / 0-)
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    dalearden1942, mchestnutjr, Kimba

    Mitt Romney lied in the primaries, lies continually in his stump speech, lies in the debates. And the media has decided that they are cool with that so they ignore it. Unfortunately, 1/2 the country is completely unaware that Mitt Romney is a serial liar because that one estate ignores it. Guess the fuck what journalists? The liar will be your President too!

    I'm pretty tired of being told what I care about.

    by hulibow on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 12:49:02 PM PDT

  •  would (0+ / 0-)

    Would you buy a used car from Romney?  If so, I have a beautiful bridge to drive it on.  I'd rather Nixon over Romney.

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 12:50:01 PM PDT

  •  The BS is coming fast and furious; Mitt knows (3+ / 0-)
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    hulibow, wvmom, mchestnutjr

    there's not time to call him out on a tenth of  his bullshit before election day.  

    "Binder? I just met her!"

    by Inland on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 12:50:13 PM PDT

  •  Romney is the most brazenly lying (3+ / 0-)
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    katchen, hulibow, mchestnutjr

    piece of shit I've ever seen.  And half this country intends to vote for him.

    It's a referendum on America, whether they elect this fucking sociopath.

    CNN has called it: Luke Skywalker vs. the Death Star is a tie!

    by GOPGO2H3LL on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 12:53:18 PM PDT

    •  I feel like they don't know (0+ / 0-)

      I had a neighbor who came over 2 weeks ago - worried about US turning into Greece, didn't like that Obama cut medicare by 716 million (billion?), didn't like the Obama LET China take our jobs etc. - I went off the fucking rails. His child works on the Hill for chrissake - he is not stupid, he reads the news....just has been pounded with the lies and nobody is countering them, at least not loudly enough. Sad.

      I'm pretty tired of being told what I care about.

      by hulibow on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 12:59:48 PM PDT

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  •  Lying sack of Crud (0+ / 0-)

    He can't even bother to check whether a story is valid.

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

    by noofsh on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 12:55:23 PM PDT

    •  If he did it wouldn't matter. At this point in (0+ / 0-)

      the game there's only time to do damage... there's little time left to repair it.

      If Mitt can change 100 minds today with a lie he'll do it without hesitation.  If he can change 1000 minds by repeating it 10 times he'll go ahead and go for 20.

      It's not a character flaw... it's simply his character.

      It's not so much the "small government" part that worries me. It's how they want to fill the gap.

      by here4tehbeer on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 01:29:08 PM PDT

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  •  I am so fucking peeved that this lying scum (4+ / 0-)

    Is even competitive in this race. Romney is a pathological liar. And the assholes in the media have totally giving him a pass.

  •  Piece of shit is too kind a description (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm starting to hate this idiot so much I'm in danger of chipping my teeth!!!!

    Gawd I hope Obama crushes this asshole - really ........

    Who the fuck are the idiots who support this lying sack of shit (besides the 25% of racist troglodytes ...)

    Fuck already .....

    •  I'm sure my neighbors are convinced by now I have (0+ / 0-)

      either constant, violent Tourette episodes or severe anger management issues.

      They should just be glad I don't have cable TV and a weapons fetish.

      It's not so much the "small government" part that worries me. It's how they want to fill the gap.

      by here4tehbeer on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 01:33:17 PM PDT

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  •  Rove 101. (0+ / 0-)

    Accuse the other side of doing what you're doing.

    Show us your tax returns !!!!!!

    by Bush Bites on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 12:58:09 PM PDT

  •  the media is not liberal (0+ / 0-)

    Isn't it controlled by just 5 or 6 corporations who are benefiting greatly with the millions being spent on ads?

  •  He hasn't got one bit of palatable truth. (0+ / 0-)

    No facts.
    No figures that add up.
    No moral stand.
    No true beliefs (besides in himself).

    All he can do is lie.  And what a prodigious liar he is.  Olympic-sized.  He needs a car elevator to transport his lies from one place to another.

    Are the American people that stupid?  That racist?  That greedy?  How the hell else can this man be nearly tied for the top job?

    "My dear friends, your vote is precious, almost sacred. It is the most powerful nonviolent tool we have to create a more perfect union." ---Representative John Lewis

    by SottoVoce on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 01:03:33 PM PDT

  •  i don't understand this (0+ / 0-)

    it isn't only dkos who calls this man a liar. many media people, top personalities, have written or called this man a liar. i just can't believe that 50 percent of the electorate hasn't heard him lie, read about him lying, or heard him referred to as a liar. why is it that the old wheeze, "if you tell a lie long enough it becomes the truth" works but continuing to call someone a liar doesn't get believed?

  •  state of (dis)grace (0+ / 0-)

    I happen to believe that Obama will win re-election.  If somehow Rmoney does get elected, i will be very sad, but people will have brought the consequences on themselves for falling for the lies of a well-documented serial liar.  I live in GA, so Obama won't win my state, but i do have several votes for state offices that will be quite important.

  •  Disappointed (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    That only MSNBC was only network with any guts to cover Sensata. Profiting off of outsourcing American jobs should be an instant DQ for any candidate. But because the networks want their horserace, they won't cover things that fit their narrative.

  •  Hard to understand why Romney lying is news... (0+ / 0-)

    I'd love to see a headline like "Romney tells the truth...on purpose!!!"

    But I don't expect I ever will.


    Retired AFSCME Steward and union thug-licensed gun carrying progressive veteran.

    by old mark on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 01:16:47 PM PDT

  •  The Silence of the Yam. (0+ / 0-)

    Brrr....that's some scary scary stuff, kids.

  •  Inexcusable! (0+ / 0-)

    Rmoney knows that he is in an indefensible position here, that anything he does will spread the undeniable fact that he is profiteering from outsourcing jobs to China. We just need to keep reminding folks that this is going on.

    Bold Progressive. Deal with it.

    by novenator on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 01:29:06 PM PDT

  •  Romney always sez (0+ / 0-)

    I'm spitting  in your face and if you elect me I will continue to spit in your face.

    Voter- well, while you're  spitting in my face, you won't let the gays marry will you, thanks.

    Romney- And I don't care about women from wages to Rape so stop asking me cause I'm spitting in your face
    too Media.

    Media- Sorry, Obama bad and Mitt Good.

    Taking Back the Take Back of America

    by The Sheeping of America on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 01:50:10 PM PDT

  •  Mitt. Romney - He's only Lying when he's talking! (0+ / 0-)

    Tricky Dick had a reputation, but if I was buying a Used car, I think I would trust Dick Nixon.

    Dick Cheney said, "Pi$$ on 'em!" And, Ronald Reagan replied, "That's a Great Idea. Let's Call it 'Trickle Down Economics!"

    by NM Ray on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 01:54:17 PM PDT

  •  China's Waiting (0+ / 0-)

    You can't deny that China is waiting for stuff to go down in the US. The Fiscal Cliff due on January 1st is going to make a hard blow to the recovery we're in right now and if you take a look on the currency markets, Euro has been dragging along for quite some time now. If the US falls into the second dreaded recession, as it is predicted, China's going to use the moment and make a few moves. Right now, it's stockpiling Gold along with Russia, and a few analysts are predicting they are getting ready for a perfect storm. I'm not trying to scare people, but you can't deny that China has been quite a drag on the US economy and our jobs, and President Obama hasn't done a lot to stop the outsourcing.

    Russia and China Stockpiling Gold - Smart money

    Investment Flass as Fiscal Cliff Looms - Business Insider

    Is the Fiscal Cliff Threatening a Currency War? - Penury Street

  •  If Romney was elected President in 2008 (0+ / 0-)

    There wouldn't BE a Chrysler!  What is with people that are considering voting for this guy?  Do they actually want to see his awkward mug, and listen to his fact mangling for 4 years? The last time we elected somebody who didn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, as he obviously doesn't (for instance, ask Colin Powell what he thinks) it did not work out so well.

    "The only thing we have to fear - is fear itself." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    by orrg1 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 02:34:13 PM PDT

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