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I know You're all busy with your election, but things are still bubbling along in Murdoch land

For the last two weeks Chris Bryant, one of the MP's who has been holding  the governments feet to the fire over phone hacking has  stood up at Prime Ministers questions and asked David Cameron to  reveal 150 emails between himself and Rebekah Brooks and Andy Coulson, the two Murdoch Ex editors who are facing trial for a variety of charges. Each time  Dodgy Dave has waved the request off on the Grounds that Bryant leaked some information that should have been held privately by the Leveson Inquiry, and hence he won't reveal anything till Bryant apologises. However Bryant has already formally apologised to the house, so at some point this will all come to a head.

It has been revealed this week that Cameron will be away for the next two Prime Ministers questions, so Bryant will have to wait as there is little point in asking a deputy and there we thought it would all lay quiet fora couple of weeks, coming back to the boil at the point where Rebekah and Andy were back facing the courts for the next procedural step

However on sunday morning the Daily mail spalshed across its front page a story about two text messages that had been handed to  the Leveson Inquiry which has been updated over the next 24 hours.

Is Cameron hiding 130 texts with Rebekah? PM accused of withholding intimate exchanges as Downing St insists it didn't possess a single one | Mail Online

In one, Mr Cameron thanked Mrs Brooks for letting him ride one of her family’s horses, saying it was ‘fast, unpredictable and hard to control but fun’.

She is the wife of racehorse trainer Charlie Brooks, who was at Eton with the Prime Minister, and was a member of his exclusive circle of Oxfordshire friends known as the Chipping Norton set.

In another message, Mrs Brooks praised Mr Cameron’s Tory Party conference speech in October 2009, saying: ‘Brilliant speech. I cried twice,’ and pledged: ‘Will love “working together”.’

now the presentation of these emails are as if theyve come straight from a Benny Hill episode by the media, or a 1970's Carry On style farce, treating both messages as if they are packed with Euphemism,  However the first one does look like its something straight from Horsey types keyboards Although unless all of his friends Call him CB it does seem a bit impersonal when talking about Daves supposed Best friend to his Best Friends wife (another tick of evidence against the straightness of the police horse story) It could be that he's known as CB amongst friends (I know I am, which is where my Username comes from) but it seems unlikely in talking to the guys wife.

The second text set peoples Euphemism Klaxon going with the  emphasis placed around "working together"  but it's all so much nothing.  I havent found anyone willing to go back and Watch Daves speech from 2009 to work out what were the two bits that made Rebekah break down and cry either.

Predictably the media has been going crazy today. Theres an acknowledged cache of somewhere just over 40 SMS messages that come from Rebekahs Blackberry from may/june 2011, these are the ones she handed to the Leveson Inquiry, and one of which was read out during witnesses evidence. There is a second selection of her SMS messages that News International claims to have  handed over to the Leveson Inquiry. The two emails in Yesterdays Mail article are part of that cache, and there is a third set of around 130 emails between the three figures, which are said to be embarassing for cameron. It may be that the Mail has confused the three stories to come up with the  story of 130 SMS messages, or it may be that they do actually know the size of the store.  Number 10's press office has denied the existence of 130 SMS's and the confusion between the two groups may be just enough to allow dDowning Street an honest denial, because the Mail hasn't got it quite right.

So What does it all mean?

well it was a non-story really, the most interesting bits were the bits you can work out from them, rather than the messages themselves.

firstly there are only five sources for these emails,  the first one we can almost certainly rule out, and that's David cameron and Number 10. you would think them being the source is something that there is a vanishingly small chance of happening. The second possibility is Rebekah herself , but according to her evidence given at the Leveson Inquiry she only has six weeks of messages and the time for that doesnt match with the content of the messages. The third  option is that the police have been leaking to the Mail, but if that was the case, you would think that the re would be much more than just the two relatively innocuous text messages. The fourth source would be the leveson inquiry itself, and if someone from there was to do the leaking you'd think that similarly to the police, firstly they would leak more, and secondly it would be a risk that might damage the inquirys process.

This leaves one possibilty as being most likely, that News International is leaking its employees emails to The Mail as part of the ongoing campaign against media regulation, a sort of  "We know what is in the rest, and we're willing to leak them, You wouldn't want your premiership to get damaged" gangster style threat. If so this leaves News International once again in trouble. By passing on their employees text messages, they are arguably in breach of the Data Protection Act once again, and there was their new management going to be all legal and straight from now on.

So I know which my choice would be, but your own personal measure of who holds the lead piping in the Library may vary.

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  •  Tip Jar (17+ / 0-)

    Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship

    by ceebs on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 06:39:54 PM PST

  •  Of the two emails (10+ / 0-)

    I find this one the most intriguing....

    In one, Mr Cameron thanked Mrs Brooks for letting him ride one of her family’s horses, saying it was ‘fast, unpredictable and hard to control but fun’.
    Highly unlikely the horse was either "fast, unpredictable or hard to control".

    It was an old horse, an ex police horse and has since been put down because of old age.

    So if not the horse, then what?

    I think if I was Mrs. Cameron I'd be asking much tougher questions than the Leveson Enquiry.

    Ron Reagan: "Sarah Palin's constituency are people who wear red rubber noses and bells on their shoes."

    by AnnetteK on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 06:49:26 PM PST

  •  Thanks, ceebs. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    BlueStateRedhead, Creosote

    "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

    by rubyr on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 08:12:05 PM PST

  •  Just adding in here a story from October 30 (1+ / 0-)
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    to get in the archives and under assessment by Brit, ceebs, BSR, and FOTHOM friends. Per a story in the New York Times, shareholders in Consolidated Media Holdings - in Australia - voted to accept a takeover offer from Murdoch!

    I'm curious about what this may mean. Any speculation on an RM effort to build an out-of-spotlight backup media empire based in Australia with profitable outreach to India, China and environs?

    •  too late aka early in am inblue state to adddress (1+ / 0-)
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      Iam in bed with my runaway touch no not horse but tablet which is another impediment (indigitement?) Nuf said

      "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

      by BlueStateRedhead on Sun Nov 04, 2012 at 10:01:19 PM PST

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  •  the updated (1+ / 0-)
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    Eurotrib version

    http://www.eurotrib.com/...

    Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship

    by ceebs on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 05:12:46 AM PST

  •  Lots to see here, before moving on: references (1+ / 0-)
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    Benny Hill
    Carry On
    Yakkety Sax
    Winchester Cathedral
    bits of horsey shakespeare
    and from this side of the pond
    changing horses midstream
    and unintentionally due to a typo DUM TUM

    AN Anglo-American HORSEY neologism ceeb's "if he wasn't such ann ass" making me think on olympian Rafalca instigating

    Mitt Romney visit to Cameron at # 10
    For those who remember their Bible class, it's usually Balam's Ass, and the Ass rebels when Balam sets out to curse the people of Israel on assignment from the king of Moab.

    There's a parable in his somewhere about class and asses.

    "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

    by BlueStateRedhead on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 06:29:31 AM PST

  •  one semi serious comment about CB (1+ / 0-)
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    CB should perhaps not be beaten to death. It's an abbreviation and they were texting.
    Or it could refer to citizen's band radio. ;-) now that's a whole 'nother subject for euphemisms, if it occurred after May 2010.

    "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

    by BlueStateRedhead on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 06:33:12 AM PST

  •  Overeducated guesses about horses. finalword (1+ / 0-)
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    Since I hang with a horsey type, I think three things need to be worked out on the horse connection if we are going to find out about the metal pipe in the stable :

    1. Cameron's relative unhorseyness: the bit of information received by Brit from a source during his training for the Olympics that David received equestrian training as an adult. (Appears to me unlikely that he did not have basic pony class, given his class and growing up in the exurbs--but the text seems to confirm it).

    2. CB's stables. He is I am guessing going to have two or one in two parts: Stable of race horses being trained. Ridden by trainer, exerciser, jockey; Stable of horses for pleasure riding: different breeds, values, and degrees of difficulty. One for example for RB to learn to ride on, as she is not to the equestrian manner born. (confirmable from racing news and public business records if he is incorporated. Is he a trainer for hire or does he run his own horses, have his own colors?)

    3. The police horse. In the US from personal experience I have been told  police horses are very difficult rides. They can be immense beasts (I have seen a Percheron used*) and are not for a trot in the park from a for hire stable.

    *wiki=bred to be war horses. they began to be used for pulling stage coaches and later for agriculture and hauling heavy goods.

    "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

    by BlueStateRedhead on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 07:05:36 AM PST

  •  And that was my 8000th comment. truly (1+ / 0-)
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    ..nuf said....

    "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

    by BlueStateRedhead on Mon Nov 05, 2012 at 07:13:00 AM PST

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