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This is a take-away from the Romney campaign: “We didn’t think they’d turn out more of their base vote than they did in 2008, but they smoked us,” said one Romney operative. “It’s unbelievable that that they turned out more from the African-American community than in 2008. Somehow they got ‘em to vote.”

Somehow? As if it's a mystery.

The building lines on election day, especially in states where republicans had clearly set up an apparatus to make it exceedingly difficult for minority voters to vote, were due to a lot of things. But one of those things was anger over this perceived disenfranchisement because there is/was a history here dating back decades.  It's the reason why the Voting Rights Act was passed. Older African Americans remembered, and younger voters heard the history.  Did the republican party actually think they could get away with it?  

African Americans decided that no one was going to keep them from voting on election day. Young supporters came out for the same reason, among other reasons.  Latinos were angry over republican calls to self-deport--placing all Latinos into the same suspect group whether they were in that group or not: which only solidified that voting bloc as a whole.  Once they got into lines that were hours long, they refused to give up their places in line and were willing to stand for hours. This was an occupy movement that mattered because it resulted in a decisive victory for the President.

Republicans can actually win elections if they become an inclusive party.  It's the way things work in a democracy.  It's the very definition of democracy.  Maybe after this fiasco, especially with the criminal nightmare that was voting in republican states, the republican party will learn some valuable lessons.  

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  •  they shud practise holding breath til turn/blue (2+ / 0-)
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    OooSillyMe, Gooserock

    consider these terms: ocean rise, weather re-patterning, storm pathology, drout famine, acceptance of nature

    by renzo capetti on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:32:47 AM PST

  •  Well, I know I wouldn't (3+ / 0-)
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    hannah, OooSillyMe, Diana in NoVa

    take advice on how to improve the Democratic Party from Republicans, so I can hardly expect them to take advice from us, as noble a fantasy as that might be.

    Really, the GOP is beyond redemption in my eyes. FUBAR.

    Any attempts to appeal, adapt, or otherwise win voters of any segment of society I greet with nothing but suspicion.

    There's always a hidden agenda. Always a façade, some mask to remove.

    A relationship requires trust. The GOP will never have mine.

    I don't want them to win elections.

    I want them to fuck completely off, and go extinct while they're at it.

    Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
    ~ Jerry Garcia

    by DeadHead on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:56:08 AM PST

    •  Trust. I trust and believe in President Obama. (2+ / 0-)
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      Miniaussiefan, DeadHead

      So when I call and knock on doors, the people I speak to know I'm telling the truth. They may not agree with me. But they can sense that they can trust me if they ask a question about an issue, a policy or even just a deadline, I'll tell them the truth. As you say, it's a relationship.

      They may not be willing to commit to vote (at all) right then or to commit to vote for President Obama. But when the next authentic trustworthy volunteer shows up, the groundwork has been laid.

      Brick by brick, we build a path, then a road, then interconnecting roads, then a community.

      It all starts with having a candidate you can believe in and trust.

      And look whom the Republicans ran. Someone you couldn't trust to keep his order the same as he drives between the McDonalds order board and the pick-up window.

      But they don't see it. They have no clue went wrong. They'll be wandering around the desert for years.

      © grover

      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 03:22:24 AM PST

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  •  I agree with you. (1+ / 0-)
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    But if they don't learn their lesson then they'll just continue down the path of blocking or trying to block the vote, which creates the horrendous scenes like the ones that played out on election day. The solution is to make voting easier, much easier.  It's great that so many thousands stayed in line, but they shouldn't have to stand in those lines to begin with.

  •  Yes, "somehow" we magically got them to vote. (1+ / 0-)
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    I hope Markos and the tech team take down and burn all the diaries explaining exactly what GOTV is and how it's done.

    We don't want the  GOP to know our magical awesome secret sauce ingredients.

    It's just, uh {shrugging shoulders} a miracle that happened! Somehow.

    © grover

    So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

    by grover on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 03:12:13 AM PST

    •  Republicans won't be able to use (0+ / 0-)

      dems model unless they fundamentally change from an old angry white man party into something more inclusive.  Their gotv model didn't work and it will be even less successful in the future because they've turned off so many millions of people and voters through their methods.

      We Are Wisconsin showed that while their first mobilization didn't force the desired recall, it built the framework for an amazing victory on Tuesday.  It was the effort of grassroots organizing over billion dollar PACs.  Grassroots won out all across the country--and it will prove itself this week even more when Florida is called for Obama.

    •  Not to worry. GOTV is work. The instinct-driven (1+ / 0-)
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      are lazy and incompetent. Their behavior is responsive to prompts and, if the prompts are consistent, eventually habit. The cons are creatures of habit. The prompts they respond to with positive action are admiration, emulation, adulation, or what we call star power. Negative responses, prompted by antagonism, fear or desperation, are either obstruction or inaction. The instinctive response to fear is not necessarily flight or fight. There's also freeze -- that is, hold still until the danger goes away.
      Cognitive people are different. They see something that causes distress or threatens their safety and respond by trying to change it. I actually dislike Obama's reference to "fighting" because that's an unproductive response, albeit a better one than flight or, for that matter, freezing in place. But, I also appreciate that there is a segment of the population that's looking for someone to fight for them, although standing up to the bullies would probably be enough. At least Obama dropped the "working with the other side" meme. It is not possible to work with people who do not know how to work. Moreover, work cannot be taught to people whose hands are hinged backwards and whose only working organ is their mouth. Speechifying is not work, but it is a useful activity when properly directed and modulated. Speech writing is work. I don't expect most people appreciated that Obama actually wrote the significant speeches he spoke and routinely revises the speeches that are prepared for him.
      But then, instinct-driven people do not have an awareness of process anyway. So, it would be no use trying to explain it.

      We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

      by hannah on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 03:52:19 AM PST

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    •  Too late (0+ / 0-)

      They're writing books about it already.

      And I don't think anyone here actually diaried about what the Obama campaign was doing (if they did, I didn't see it).

      Issenberg was on Colbert the other night talking about his book. He explained it's not about "soccer moms" anymore. It's about targeting individual voters, like "Jane," "Courtney" and "Phyllis." Cool, but also a little creepy, too.

      Republicans will probably try to cut and paste this formula, but it won't work for them. The first is that their problem isn't like our problem: our problem is mainly that although there are far more people who agree with us, the people who agree with us tend not to vote in high (or high enough) percentages. Their problem is that their product doesn't have broad enough appeal. They might be able to squeeze out a few more of their voters using these kinds of data managed techniques, but they're already scraping the bottom of the barrel of angry old white men. And production on that kind of voter has slowed down dramatically.

  •  Because, you stupid Republicans, you scared (2+ / 0-)
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    Dr Erich Bloodaxe RN, grayday101

    the everloving shit out of normal non-Fox addled people.  And those you didn't scare, you pissed them off by going to war against them: gays, minorities, women.  And pissed off people will vote against you (and stand in line for hours) just to send a "fuck you" message.

    You guys think you're the only ones with a lock on the Fear Vote?  Think again.  Your ideology is so damn awful you made Obama look like the king of kings in comparison!

    Progressive Candidate Obama (now - Nov 6, 2012)
    Bipartisan Obama returns (Nov 7, 2012)

    by The Dead Man on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 03:14:52 AM PST

  •  Well, they were deceived because they didn't (2+ / 0-)
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    grayday101, sillia

    see. Not only are appearances deceiving, but when Obama took the functions of the DNC and effectively privatized them by rebranding them as Organizing for America, which then morphed again into Organizing for Obama, after having been active throughout the three years on the issues, such as health care and banking reform and housing reform, they didn't see it because the media do not report on entities that don't feed them regular press releases. The various agencies in Washington sent out information to OFA, which spread it around, but the mainstream press didn't pick it up.
    Republicans relied on FOX and FOX doesn't do news. FOX does feel-good propaganda. Not to mention that the instinct-driven take the intention for the act, so the intention of limiting the Democrat to one term was taken as a fait accomplis.
    In an environment of lies, the truth goes unnoticed.

    Republicans should be glad they held the majority in the House. Otherwise there's a chance that a whole lot hearings would being going on about the disaster that was Iraq and there would be occasion to be more than sad. There are hundreds of thousands of pictures of atrocities waiting in vaults to be exposed.
    Would they make a difference? I don't know, but some people can only believe what they see.
    Romney's theme, "Believe in America," was entirely appropriate. Not only is Romney himself not a person to be believed, but it's actually good advice. The majority of the American people have spoken and they have spoken true and deserve to be believed. Of course, that's not what Willard had in mind. But it continues to be strange but true that the instinct-driven can see themselves reflected in other people, as if in a mirror, but not recognize that it is themselves they are seeing. Nor, for that matter, are they aware that they are not seeing other people clearly, as they are.
    The fog of deception is all encompassing.

    We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 03:29:54 AM PST

  •  More people heard Republicans actually embrace (2+ / 0-)
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    grayday101, sillia

    the core beliiefs of the republican party platform.  As long as Republicans can hide what they believe behind meaningless platitudes about American strength and patriotism, they get elected.  Once they start actually announcing what they really believe, they scare the shit out of people, becoming the best ever Democratic GOTV effort.

  •  Because of 2010 They Were Expecting a (0+ / 0-)

    continued depressed Dem vote.

    The flip side of your question is, where would America be today if we hadn't conducted such a disastrous midterm election campaign for 2 years ago?

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 05:15:43 AM PST

  •  Old people (0+ / 0-)

    According to a chart in yesterday's Wall St. Journal, the one age group that voted in significantly higher numbers in 2012 vs. 2008 was the over-65s. They didn't all vote for Obama, of course. And some of that is the boomer-activists reaching age 65 -- same people voting as 2008, but the statisticians put us in a different box.

    But I suspect that the Republican plans to "save" Social Security and Medicare by trashing, privatizing, giving younger workers an opt-out, etc. etc. did some serious damage to them, and gave seniors even more reason than usual to make sure to vote.

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