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This isn't snark.  I'm really asking because something has me thinking CNN is about to be the Conservative News Network.   Watching the Faux election coverage the other day was the weirdest thing ever.  For a network that hates, hates, hates the President they were sure quick to call the election over, and very quick to back it up.  

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Bret Baier just a few years ago was sitting in front of the President cutting him off at every turn. It was the rudest interview with a President that most of us have ever seen.  Now fast forward to Tuesday Night and he is rushing to call states for the President. While Karl was over on the side having a nervous breakdown.  Bret keeps reading them off. Colorado for Obama, Nevada for Obama.

Second Megan threw in a wierd comment something to the effect of "what was that about"

If Faux was the GOP cheerleader the whole lot would have had pitchforks and torches in the election room.

Now before you call me crazy let's look at some interesting facts.  Shep Smith is still working for Faux even though he has gone rouge quite a few times in the President's favor.  Faux news ratings are falling while CNN has lost it's way
Cable: CNN Ends Its Ratings Slide, Fox Falls Again

Now I don't believe that Fox is going to become MSNBC. No Way...
But I do believe Fox can take over the role CNN has had as the place to go for real news.

All Fox would have to do is push aside some of the crazy GOP like Rove and Palin and Geraldo and pick up some normal news folks and they are now the main news network in the country.

What do you think??


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  •  Move left? (11+ / 0-)

    Not gonna happen at all.  Even if Roger Ailes is carried out feet-first, it's still owned by Murdoch.

  •  With Ailes contract renewed it appears unlikely. (8+ / 0-)

    Though they will go where the money is , they may however "re-invent" the Republican party.
      These guys are in it for the money and the power, so anything goes but with Ailes there, it will go to benefit the GOP.

  •  Roger Ailes (7+ / 0-)

    As long as Roger Ailes is at the helm Fox will continue to be the propaganda arm of the Republican Party.

    If Roger is shown the door we can see who replaces him, and then have a conversation like this.

  •  They will be hiring Allen West (8+ / 0-)

    And it will even get nuttier.

  •  Well I forgot about West (0+ / 0-)

    Maybe they can create a detective show.
    West & Palin Crazy 911

  •  instructions from ailes (5+ / 0-)
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    tardis10, jkb246, Aspe4, buckstop, dougymi

    too lazy tp find link, but apparently ailes told key staff on election eve that "if things dont go your way, don't look like a car ran over your dog"

  •  I doubt it seriously (1+ / 0-)
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    but, if their ratings take a big enough hit, they'll do what it takes to boost profits.

    "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

    by sceptical observer on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 11:25:37 AM PST

  •  Fox News exists to tell Southern (6+ / 0-)

    conservatives that the world is in fact exactly as those Southern conservatives see it. It's an extremely successful and lucrative business model.

    Fox News moves to the left when the South moves to the left.  Don't hold your breath on that.

    The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present

    by Inkin on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 11:28:13 AM PST

    •  Fox Will Move Left in About 40 Years (0+ / 0-)

      when all the former segregationists are dead and right-wing conservatism is no longer profitable.

      "The problem with posting quotes off the Internet is you never know if they're genuine."--Gen. George Washington at the Battle of Gettysburg, February 30, 1908

      by Aspe4 on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 11:38:34 AM PST

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  •  It's a resurgence of the ideological press. (1+ / 0-)
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    Quite often they got the main story right, then embellished it with metric tons of opinion.  

    NBC (featuring the center-rightists dKos loves to dislike) called it for Obama first, and defended its call even when the totals from Ohio showed Romney ahead.  Fox followed NBC by 11 minutes in declaring Obama, and was first to declare Indiana for Donnelly.  

    Over on the Left, guess whose polling came in second?  Kos/SEIU/PPP, and PPP came in first.  You can bet that there will be plenty of GOP lurkers in 2014 looking over our shoulders at the polling.  

    Meanwhile the stalwarts at NPR, CNN and CBS, who are supposed to be officially neutral and would feign offense if accused of deviating from neutrality, called their papers last.  

    A sanguine disposition would believe that journalism is up for a revival.  The days when every city boasting six digits had three dailies and every city boasting five digits had two, all of them screaming the official party line, are now looked to as a golden era in journalism.  Middlebrows took at least two papers before considering themselves informed, then topped it with a selection of magazines.  

    A sanguinary disposition yearns for the day when Fox or Current are exhibits at the Newseum.  

    "Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage." -- Lucille Ball

    by Yamaneko2 on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 11:28:15 AM PST

  •  I don't see how that is possible. They currently (2+ / 0-)
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    RichM, Aspe4

    employ O'Reilly, Palin, Hannity, and they are about to hire West, Walsh, Akin, and Mourdouck.

    Their closest thing to a left leaning consultant is Evan Bayh, and he is at best a moderate Republican/Reagan Democrat.

    There will not be any shift, and if you were watching election night, which is the first time I have ever watched them, it was so obvious what a right wing propaganda machine they are.

    I mean that whole bit with Karl Rove was painful. Notice they didn't have any Democratic operatives to argue with Rove, because they are not in contact with any.

    What self-respecting Democrat would have anything to do with this propaganda outfit? CNN at least has Begala and Carville and talks to actual Democrats every once in a while.

    "If you don't sin, then Jesus died for nothing!" (on a sign at a Mardi Gras parade in New Orleans)

    by ranger995 on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 11:29:21 AM PST

  •  Looking for an interview (0+ / 0-)

    Maybe they're trying to play nice with Obama after realizing that he won't give them an interview as long as they're a propaganda machine. Two years is a long time to go without a presidential interview. Perhaps they've come to the conclusion that another four years would be more than they could bear.

  •  But I did so enjoy watching our (0+ / 0-)

    win on that station. I've never seen Faux, because I watch no TV, but I specifically tuned on to them so that I could enjoy having them be forced to call it for the Prez.

    The anchor was actually quite reasonable. He seemed peeved and implicitly critical of R's non-concession as the delay lingered. Then, there was some tool reporting directly from Fail Central in Boston who was spouting garbage suitable for a partisan hack, rather than the embedded reporter that he was supposed to be.

    At some point the anchor cut off that fool's lame and windy justifications for why R had not conceded and challenged him "But that's not normal, is it?" The tool/fool had to lean his head to the floor and admitted, "No, it's not." And whoever that fool was, he refused to say "President Obama." It was always "Mr. Obama," as though he was discussing some guy that had wandered into the campaign by mistake. But all in all, it was worth it to see them have to concede and to show the deserved dejection and rejection at Wrongney HQ.

    I loved it.

    We must use what we have
    to build what we need. -Adrienne Rich

    by Xapulin on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 11:33:20 AM PST

  •  FOX NEWS & CNN ARE... (2+ / 0-)
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    Aspe4, Delilah


    "It is the difficulties that make us stronger."

    by Chamonix on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 11:35:35 AM PST

  •  I'm not sure this is new (2+ / 0-)
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    badlands, Delilah

    Fox does polls completely straight, and it also calls elections in a reality-based way.

    It gives them credibility, it helps them look like they're not shills. If they refused to call Ohio when everyone else was doing it, that would give the game away. Sure, their audience would be happier if they lied, but it's a tradeoff; the audience has nowhere else to go.

    So their strategy is to report the big news the same as everyone else, but slant the smaller things by selecting what to report and emphasize (that's the best way to distort) and sometimes they just flat-out lie. But they know the national election is too big for that.

    I admit, I watched Fox a lot Tuesday night. It was much more fun.

  •  Why would they delay calling it? (1+ / 0-)
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    It WAS over.  Obama was going to win when all the votes were counted whether they called it at 11:15 or 3:00 AM.  Everyone has already voted -- so all they would get by delaying is 2 more hours of "and another state goes for Obama!"  

    As it was, a lot of people went to bed before Obama took the stage at 1:45 -- they may not have if there was still some suspense.

  •  I voted Stay Crazy (1+ / 0-)
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    However, I was surprised that they called states for Obama so quickly. They needed to keep their brainwashed viewers watching, so I would think they would stall on known information just to keep the illusion going. What was the advantage for them to be early to give up the ghost?

    Let's say they delayed calling states for O. Their delusional viewers would say 'Lookie! CNN, MSNBC and ABC have all called Ohio for Obama, but we know better - Fox hasn't called Ohio. They must know something!'

    I am progressive. I am liberal. I make no apologies. - Kos

    My political compass: - 8.38,-6.97

    by pucklady on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 11:42:57 AM PST

  •  Well I guess Stay Crazy wins (0+ / 0-)

    I thought something interesting was about to happen.  I'm still not so sure though. CNN has moved further right and white.   Plus you can watch CNN in every airport.   I wonder will CNN try to grab Sarah and some of the let go Faux talkers

  •  get back to me when they fire hannity and cavuto (0+ / 0-)

    I might give some credence to the thought then.  Not before.

    A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

    by dougymi on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 12:07:43 PM PST

  •  i can imagine (0+ / 0-)

    the GOP/Fox News (one in the same) moving left on some social issues/immigration if they come to believe that they are losing more votes than they are gaining... they really don't care about any of that, it's all about low taxes on rich people. the rest of it is just stuff they use to get the rubes to vote against their own best interest.

    they're in a very difficult position though... I really don't see a way out.

  •  I get what you're saying (1+ / 0-)
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    But I think Tuesday night was their Christie moment. They do one normal/decent thing and we think, OK, maybe this will set them on a new path. But Christie will soon turn back into an obnoxious douche, and Fox will return to wingnuttery. Tuesday night was just the exception that proves the rule.

  •  I think Fox News will follow the money. (0+ / 0-)

    But they have built there brand by embracing the far right evangelical conservative demographic and it will take a while to re-brand themselves.

    If their key demographic groups are changing, they will have to follow, if they are dieing off then they will have to find new ones.

    I do find it interesting that the Fox Network has created MundoFox, and FoxNewsLatino to reach out to the Hispanic community, so obviously they are not totally encapsulated within the RW bubble that they have helped to create.

  •  What you were seeing was the battle for... (1+ / 0-)
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    Nowhere Man

    ... ratings.  Even RWNJ's want to be the first to call a state on election night - pure and simple.  They also want to be first to call the election.  It's all about bragging rights.  

    With people channel surfing for information on election night, Fox has mud on their faces for refusing to show the correct electoral tally for 1.5 hours.  Then on top of that they treated us to a mini-drama which involved Rove, Megyn's legs, and a bunch of snarky nerds who knew they were right to call the election.

    All of the other networks had it right, Fox was wrong.  But Fox is not going to give up its gravy train - the election is over, they are on to Benghazi

    I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

    by Hey338Too on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 12:57:50 PM PST

  •  "Shep Smith is still working for Faux (0+ / 0-)

    even though he has gone rouge quite a few times. . . ."

    I've heard the rumors, but I didn't know they were established fact.

    "It doesn't matter what I do....People need to hear what I have to say. There's no one else who can say what I can say. It doesn't matter what I live. --Newty

    by Vico on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 01:40:18 PM PST

  •  I saw the Megan Kelly clip on the Daily Show... (1+ / 0-)
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    ..and hooted with joy when she asked Karl Rove (something like) "Is that Republican math you're doing, to make yourself feel better?"  Really, Megan, that took gonads.  Hooray for you!

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    by Avast Ye Swobbie on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 12:58:34 AM PST

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