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The right-wing spin that Obama won a close election and thus has no mandate is a crock.

First, 332-206 is an electoral landslide: 62% to 38% (I know, math is kinda hard, but there it is).

Second, the popular vote is already nearing a 3 million vote margin--with a much larger margin projected (from the Examiner):

    •When all is said and done President Barack Obama is expected to win 67,924,682 to 63,726,025 for former Governor Mitt Romney. There should be about 133,724,450 total votes cast when the tallies from the smaller candidates are included. This will surpass the record setting total of 131,463,122 from 2008.
    •Obama's final popular vote margin of victory over Romney is expected to be 3.14%. Through extrapolation methods we can predict that he will obtain 50.79% of the popular vote to 47.65% for his primary challenger. Other candidates will combine for around 1.55% of the total vote.
    •The 3.14% margin of victory is significantly smaller than the 7.27% Obama recorded four years ago. However it will surpass President Bush's popular vote margin over John Kerry in his reelection campaign from 2004.
Elections have consequences, and this one's main consequence is a mandate for genuine Republican concessions.

And don't you love that this projection puts Romney at....47.65%? Ouch--math is hard for Rs--from Romney to Rove.

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  •  Tip Jar (10+ / 0-)

    "Stand up--Keep Fighting"--The Wellstone Campaign

    by Many Apples Many Sodas on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 07:11:14 PM PST

  •  Keep on going . (0+ / 0-)

    "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

    by indycam on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 07:12:16 PM PST

  •  I agree he has a mandate (4+ / 0-)
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    Gooserock, jamess, myboo, sfbob

    and I think he's created structural advantages in the electoral college which will stand us in good stead for many elections to come.

  •  We can't let (5+ / 0-)
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    jamess, vivadissent, abraxas, 2thanks, sfbob

    Repubs set the narrative on this. The President DOES have a mandate and he SHOULD implement it.

    "I don't want a line in the Sand lines can be moved. They can be blown away. I want a six foot trench carved into granite."

    by theone718 on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 07:30:33 PM PST

    •  The warm, melty feelings have to give way now (0+ / 0-)

      to strong, determined leadership.

      He told his campaign staff that they were "better than" him in many ways, and while the humble sentiment is ok, what the voters mandated him to do is to be a strong leader now.

      The acceptance speech was also on the mushy and sentimental side, which is ok, except that there wasn't a single word in it to indicate that his team is "on to" the mean-spirited and undermining methods of the Republicans in Congress.    His speech didn't show that he had learned anything about how to combat them, how to fight them more effectively this time.

      I do not know if President Obama feels that he can exercise the mandate, or that he even realizes that he has a mandate yet.    It's great to have an emotional, warm-hearted President, but all of that warm sentiment does no one any good unless he actually gets people back to work, gets them through crisis situations, gets their kids into decent schools, and the only damn way he can do any of that is by getting tough and fighting this time.  

      Speaker Boehner has already made it crystal clear that he is showing utter contempt for the President and practically spitting in Obama's face by stating that he, not Obama, will set the agenda in the House.   Cooperation and bipartisanship?   Those words don't mean anything but weakness to Boehner.

      I'm thinking we need more Patty Murray at this point, maybe giving him some pep talks.

  •  Thanks! (0+ / 0-)

    Facts Matter.


    Unless one is accustom to living on BS Mountain,

    as Jon Stewart puts it:

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/...


    Isn't it time to fix the Filibuster?
    -- Here's how.

    by jamess on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 07:33:22 PM PST

  •  crazy talk (0+ / 0-)

    I understand your confusion -- but I believe when it's a Democrat, the accepted term is "compromise."

    Please proceed, Governor.

    by vivadissent on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 07:34:14 PM PST

    •  Republicans kicked sand in everyone's faces (0+ / 0-)

      whenever they had anything that they could call a mandate.

      Now, when we have had a clear cut electoral victory, it is not time to go up to the bully and say, I understand that you probably kicked sand in my face because you were in a mood that day.   Can't we be friends?  I'll show my good intentions by offering to make compromises with you on everything.

      What does the bully do in a situation like that?  Does he smile, with a kind look on his face and say, "ok, let's be friends and let's always compromise." (?)

      •  agreed (0+ / 0-)

        Although I think that the real bully is, in effect, the mainstream media.  They were long ago cowed by the right-wing into granting them whatever accolades and power they chose to assume (see: the entire presidency of G.W. Bush).  

        But the mainstream media, and the beltway village with whom they conspire to invent the conventional wisdom of the day, still stiffens up to play power-broker when the Democrats are at the helm.  They do not fear the left, or the Democratic party, and amuse and flatter themselves into believing that we serve at their will.  They are the willing tool of the right, even when it is out of power (see: the second term of Bill Clinton, the first term of Barack Obama).  

        That is the bully that needs to be challenged.  Without the protection and dissembling of the mainstream media, the Republicans and the right-wing would be at a distinct disadvantage.

        Please proceed, Governor.

        by vivadissent on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 09:27:44 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  his margin of victory was pie? n/t (1+ / 0-)
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    hope springs eternal and DAMN is she getting tired!

    by alguien on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 07:34:48 PM PST

  •  He also has a mandate because (3+ / 0-)

    With the votes that have been counted, Democrats are ahead over a half million votes for the House.  So Democrats will indeed win the popular vote for the House, although we will not have the most representatives.  I don’t think there is anything that better exposes that we have a big problem with the methods currently used to determine representation.

    http://thinkprogress.org/...

    We do have a mandate, and this issue needs to get a lot of press, and be used as a tool to pressure the Boehner House to compromise.

  •  The vote margin is expected to be (1+ / 0-)
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    pie

    YESSS!

  •  We don't have to justify it, we owe no (2+ / 0-)
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    TKO333, IndyReader

    explanations. President Obama was reelected with enough electoral college votes to take a second term.

    That - legally and constitutionally - is a mandate. The right wing can bloviate all they want about margins, percentages, Ronald Reagan, or any other hot air they feel like having with themselves.

    It has no bearing on us. The President will remain the President. That is his mandate.

    Rick Perry - the greatest scientist since Galileo!

    by Bobs Telecaster on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 07:57:29 PM PST

    •  Dems got a Senate mandate with 55 seats (1+ / 0-)
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      The nation confirmed that it wants the Dems to continue doing the work they have been doing in the Senate, and has added two more Dem Senators.  Anytime we have 55 Senators in one party (caucus), it's considered quite an overpowering majority.   If we had to switch places and cope with having only 45 Senators, it would be a tough situation.

      The word mandate comes from the latin root ("mandar," "com-mand"), that is to issue a command.   The nation confirmed that it wants Obama to be President, not his Republican opponents, and the nation has both electorally and popular-votedly issued a command to the President, which is to continue to be the kind of President that he has proven that he is capable of being.

      If he lost the popular vote, or only won it by 1%, it would be different.  But he's already ahead by approx 51 to 48%, and 51 to 48% is considered a clear victory.

      It would be a mixed mandate to both parties, except for the fact that the majority of American voters voted for Dems in the House, as well as the Senate.   The only reason for 40 vote R lead in House is the extreme gerrymandering that they did, which resulted in a classic case of:

      "Taxation Without Representation" in the House of Representatives for Democratic voters in dozens of Congressional Districts.

  •  No Mandate (1+ / 2-)
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    nycvisionary, IndyReader

    A 3% vote margin is not a mandate.  A reduced Republican majority in the House is not a mandate.  Reid can change the filibuster and hold rules for the Senate, but there are still enough bone headed Tea Party representatives in the House to stop real progress and even stop real compromise.  How many blue dog Democrats are still in the House and will continue to vote against that Kenyan Muslim?

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