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Dear GOP establishment,

I don't know who to address this to. For the past 4 years it has been confusing to watch you grasp at straws hoping to grab onto something, anything that you can use as a weapon against the other side. My side. To be blunt you have no leadership. It's partially George W. Bush's fault. By choosing Cheney, a man who was never meant to run for President, he left an empty slot in which the next leader of the party should have been standing.

As a result it appeared as though you defaulted to George W. Bush's primary opponent John McCain in an attempt to distance yourself from the Bush years and move the party in a new direction. When that didn't work you were again left without a leader. So filling the void came Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and a parade of people who make a living pushing your party into an ideological corner. The end result was the failed candidacy of your most recent standard bearer, Mitt Romney.

You used to the party of Dwight Eisenhower. Now you are the party of Sarah Palin.

While I am probably the last person you would listen to for advice, and while I am not generally prone to trying to help my "political enemies" this is not simply "concern trolling" on my part. I genuinely want to help you. Follow me below the fold if you're ready to at least consider some real advice from a concerned citizen.

Between now and 2014 you have a chance to show the American people that Congress has their back. That the GOP cares about this nation in a direct and very real way. If you are able to do that you will have another chance in 2016 to save your relevancy as a Political Party.

Barack Obama cannot run for President again. You do not have to campaign against him ever again. The White House will be an open contest. The Democrats will put forward a candidate, you will put forward a candidate and the people will decide who deserves the job. I don't know if Joe Biden will be running in 2016 but we do have a wide range of serious candidates ready to go.

Chief among them is none other than Hillary Clinton.

That feeling you're experiencing right now is called fear. Not only is Hillary herself a strong political voice with instant name recognition and a Presidential campaign or three under her belt but she has as her top advocate the man who would be her "First Dude" as Todd Palin once dubbed himself. While it will never be overtly stated, electing Hillary Clinton is practically electing a 3rd term for Bill Clinton. He will be her closest confidante and no doubt just as active in her administration as she was in his. They are the definition of a power couple and they have a record of success.

I don't say this to discourage you, or to gloat. I am warning you of the uphill climb to come. Particularly if Hillary Clinton resigns in the second term you can bet your butts that she is running in 2016 and will have just enough ties to the Obama administration to take credit for the good and distance herself from the bad.

As such you cannot simply run against the Obama administration in 2016 and expect to win. It didn't work on Tuesday it won't work in four years. Particularly if your party is still seen in the eyes of Americans as the obstructionists standing in the way of progress. The Republican Congress has an approval rating of just 13%. Voters widely blamed Congress for the stalemate in Washington, whether you agree with that verdict or not, it is the reality of the situation.

So my first piece of advice would be to stop running against Barack Obama. He won. You don't have to run against him ever again, and trying to win the last campaign is never a good strategy for the next. He can leave office with a negative approval rating in four years and it won't make a bit of difference because Hillary Clinton has her own record of success to run on.

Her career is not tied to Obama's success.

The only way your party has a chance of winning the 2014 Mid Terms and the 2016 Presidential campaign is to show the American people that Congress can actually do something. I am sorry to say it, but that means working with the President. Working with Barack Obama. It may even mean passing his legislation without compromise. In some cases to grow the economy, so that you can take equal credit for the success of the nation. In other cases it may mean giving the President just enough rope to "hang himself with" if his ideas fail.

And that's really a key point in all of this.

If you truly believe his ideas are so bad that they cannot work, you're not doing yourself any favors by protecting him from those failures. Give him what he wants, show the American people that his ideas don't work (if you truly believe that) by letting them go into effect. Otherwise it just looks as though you are holding our nations future hostage. That doesn't help anybody, but it does give voters a reason to replace a whole lot of GOP members of Congress.

I am speaking to you as a Political activist who found myself in your exact position in November of 2004. Here at Dailykos we hadn't deluded ourselves quite as badly as you guys did this time around about our odds of winning but there was a large portion of people here (myself included) who felt that everything had broken our way. We nominated a war hero. We won the debates. The public support for the Iraq War was cratering as were George Bush's approval ratings. Everything seemed to suggest that Bush had overstepped his bounds and the voters would deny him a second term.

Having spent 4 years actively working to stop George W. Bush from winning that second term it seemed like we couldn't fail. But we did.

The difference is that instead of continuing to attack George W. Bush as if he would forever be our mortal enemy we quickly pivoted. You see old George would never face re-election again, so any and all energy spent attacking him was a waste. We immediately began to focus on the mid terms and individual races. We turned away from George W. Bush the man, and began making an argument against the Conservative ideology he subscribed to.

We believed that the Democratic agenda contained a better vision for this nation.

In 2006 we won. But even with our new found margins in the House and Senate we didn't obstruct the Bush administration because we knew that if we did, the blame for his failures would be shared by us. When someone is trying to Govern and you do nothing but get in their way, suddenly you look like the asshole.

There's an old saying you have probably heard before. "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." Another great saying you should remember is "Either lead, follow or get out of the way." This is universal advice that applies well to this second term. The economy is on the rise. The indicators are showing a real shift in consumer confidence and retailers are gearing up for their biggest Christmas season in years.

2013 Will be the start of the American Rally. The start of our return to greatness.

In 2006 you as a Political Party were seen as a Rubber Stamp Congress. In 2012 you were seen as the Road Block Congress. In 2014 you can either be seen as part of the coalition that's bringing America back to greatness, or you can be seen as the guys who dampened that effort. Who held the recovery back, made it less than what it might have been. And for what?

Holding up Barack Obama's agenda may have been the only viable option for you when the top goal was to stop his re-election. But that battle is over and you lost. Holding up his agenda now doesn't do you a damn bit of good. It just makes you responsible for any and all of his legislative failures. He tried, you stopped him. Guess who gets blamed? This isn't rocket science. A passive, low information voter can figure this out.

When the Dream Act doesn't pass Congress, guess who Voters are going to blame?
Hint: It's not the guy who sent it there to be passed!

While we're at it, obsessing over what happened in Benghazi doesn't do you a damn bit of good either. Sure if something went wrong we need to know what. We need to know what should be fixed but a witch hunt designed to try and dig up some sort of scandal, one that most likely does not exist- is pointless when the only person such a scandal could hurt is a man who cannot be Un-Re-Elected.

While you're wasting your time dealing chip damage to Barack Obama the rest of the very strong, very capable Democratic candidates for President will be building a network of donors and former Obama for America volunteers for 2016. The entire Democratic party will also be organizing for the mid term elections and guess what- your obstructionism is going to be issue #1. Wasting time on witch hunts while real issues await solving will be issue #2.

That is if you aren't so stupid as to actually try and impeach the second Democratic President to win Re-Election in a row! Cementing forever an image of sore losers who throw a hissy fit every time you fail to unseat a President. If you are that stupid, expect to have your ass handed to you so quickly, and so painfully that you may never recover.

The 2016 Election could be between the Democrats and the Libertarians.

You see while you mock people for voting Democratic because they "want stuff" the fact of the matter is the Government is there to serve The People. A political party that doesn't accomplish anything meaningful for the vast majority of the population has no reason to exist. Politics is not simply a battle of ideologies. It's not an intellectual exercise of competing world views. It is a debate about specific ideas for solving problems and making life better for Americans.

Sometimes that means giving them "stuff" like access to health care. Like financial assistance while they are between jobs. Food for their children and perhaps a job when they get back from serving overseas. Until you realize that Governing is about directly helping those in need, you will not be able to convince the American people that you are on their side.

No amount of culture war, religious fundamentalist distraction will overcome the basic fact that there are actual problems to be solved and they don't require roundabout, trickle-down solutions. They require direct action.

They require Congress working with the President to get things done.

I suggest you heed my advice. As I said I am not generally in the business of helping my political opponents but I feel their is a greater good to serve beyond the mid term elections and 2016 race. This nation and it's economy are turning a corner. I want the recovery to soar. I want America to be great. I also see a great deal of value in having two competing sets of ideas on where to go from here.

I don't want to live in a single party America, even if it is my party that is in power. It's not healthy for our Democracy to have such a lopsided political landscape. We need a competition of ideas to ensure the best solutions are found and we keep this nation movie forward. I miss the Republican party of Dwight Eisenhower. I miss the Republican party that wasn't overrun with religious dogma and Ayn Rand objectivism.

I want a Republican Party that hasn't backed itself into such an extremist political corner that if it is again entrusted with the highest office in the land, I don't have to worry about it resulting in a religious theocracy. I don't have to worry about it engaging in Oil Wars. I don't have to worry about it shredding the social safety net that keeps crime low and society from descending into chaos during hard times.

The choice of President of the United States should not be a high stakes decision. It should be a simple choice between two equally good, capable people who have the best interest of this nation at heart and who will work to preserve what has been accomplished.

We shouldn't have to worry that a Republican Presidency will result in a Government so small it can be drown in a bathtub and is thus useless. Government works because unlike private enterprise, it can be held accountable. Government can be a force for good if good people are Governing. It is ironic that Karl Rove's failed SuperPac was named American Crossroads.

The GOP is at a crossroads. We need a minimum of two functioning political parties in this country. It is up to you whether or not the GOP is one of them.

Originally posted to DeanDemocrat on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:14 PM PST.

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  •  You think Hillary is gonna' run in 16? (8+ / 0-)

    I have my doubts on that.

    •  I do think she will. (11+ / 0-)

      She's a fighter and if we are faced with a fork in the road as I think we will be. Where one side leads to the kind of protection and growth of what President Obama will have achieved, and the other side leads to a repeal of that progress- similar to the crossroads we were at in 2000, than I think Hillary will step up to continue the good fight.

      But even if she doesn't we have a pretty strong field of candidates sitting on the bench. We may end up running old Joe after all if these next four years are exceptionally good and Biden can sort of make over his image as a bit of a goofball.

      Don't get me wrong, I love the guy but he has a bit of an image problem in the seriousness department.

      We lose if we choose to forget; the lives of men, and money spent.

      by DeanDemocrat on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:34:29 PM PST

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      •  regardless, your point stands (6+ / 0-)

        I don't see much value in making candidate predictions in the week following an election, but the thrust of your post doesn't hinge on Will She Or Won't She?
        The Obama machine will still be operative in 2014, and its mission will be to hold the Senate, deliver the House and end the intrinsic obstruction of the Right. If the GOP just picks up where it left off, it will be decimated in 2014.
         Unlike you, I think that would be fine. We have gone so far down Wingnut Lane I think the USA could benefit from four or eight years of absent opposition. Beyond that, internal rot will set in, and that would be bad.

        As the dust settles, the reality distortion field of the Right is still holding. But perhaps they can at least admit that the Obama team is damn good at winning elections, and continuing on will as they are will bring the full artillery of the O team on them once again. It would be precisely the mistake of running against Obama again, and they will lose. Again. Comforting themselves with nostalgia for 2010 while forgetting 2006, 2008, and 2012 would be fatal.

        R-Money/R-Ayn, the ENRON Ticket, is not a campaign; it's a hostile takeover bid.

        by kamarvt on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 07:57:09 AM PST

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        •  I don't know (5+ / 0-)

          The dems controlled the congress, with rare exceptions, for 40 yrs after fdr. At times we had a veto proof majority, so it really wouldn't have mattered who the pres was.

          For the bulk of that time, they were fine.

          If the GOP insists on playing moral police, they will continue to lose, and they'll lose more and more seats they considered safe.

          The GOP seems to think people want govt to leave business alone and worry about people's private decisions. They're wrong. People think govt belongs in the boardroom, not the bedroom.

          •  campaign $$ is the difference (2+ / 0-)
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            StrayCat, No one gets out alive

            And the general growth of corruption in the form of revolving doors, etc available to federal pols. It's a far, far more lucrative career path than at any time since the turn of the 20th century.
            The sheer amount of hard-to-trace dark money being pumped into the Capitol today is extremely tempting for people who (by and large0 have the outsized egos, self-assurance, and ambition to want to run for office in the first place.
            That's why I give the dems 8 years instead of 40 before they succumb to rot of one sort or another.
            That said, there are any number of outside factors that could influence this arc; campaign finance reform, the overturning of Citizen's United, the quality of candidates running, continued perfidy by the GOP, and the RWNM's hyperventilating over dem conduct are just a few.
            oh, and you're spot on about the results if the GOP keeps chasing culture wars into oblivion. Let 'em.

            R-Money/R-Ayn, the ENRON Ticket, is not a campaign; it's a hostile takeover bid.

            by kamarvt on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 09:15:20 AM PST

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        •  If The GOP Truly Followed The Advice Of This.... (5+ / 0-)

          ...diarist, I would be very happy.

          It would be good for their party and good for America.

          I'm not holding my breath waiting for such an outcome.

          Meanwhile, Democrats need to play hardball and kick ass and take back the House along with getting a 60 plus majority in the Senate along with the presidency in 2016.   And then, maybe, we can also have enough appointees to the scotus and the federal judiciary to begin to reverse the damage done since Reagan took office.

          At some point the GOP as it is now must cease to exist.

      •  I think Joe Biden would make the perfect VP and (0+ / 0-)

        set a record for VP longevity that will never[?] be broken..

        "Round up the usual suspects"

        by NanaoKnows on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 08:21:37 AM PST

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  •  What I think is going to happen is (5+ / 0-)

    a Republican Civil War is going to take place, where the Old Guard (Limbaugh, Rove, Norquist) faces off against the New Guard (Whoever fills this role). From there you'll say hello to the Republican Party for the next while.

    •  I agree but we have no idea who that new guard is. (5+ / 0-)

      And that makes me wonder (if not worry) that there are no voices to speak up and fill role. The problem they are going to have is dragging their base along with them.

      The only way to do that is to do the very unpopular thing (among White Conservatives) and work with the President. Once they do that, if they can then pick up House and Senate Seats in 2014 as a direct result of this moderation, then the base might come to the conclusion that winning is good, and maybe these guys have the right idea.

      But honestly I don't know of any Republican politician in the House or Senate (which is where this moderation has to happen) who would be willing to be this new voice at the risk of losing his/her seat in 2 years.

      We lose if we choose to forget; the lives of men, and money spent.

      by DeanDemocrat on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:31:26 PM PST

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      •  Well, if they don't help (1+ / 0-)
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        They're likely to be facing losing their seat in 2 yrs anyway.

        Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Sucks for them, but good for the people.

      •  I'm old enough to remember... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...as well as be involved in the Democratic Party in the Seventies and Eighties in two different states. Texas and Alaska, respectively.

        I believe it was Will Rogers who said, "I'm not a member of any organized political party. I'm a Democrat." (I'm paraphrasing from memory)

        This is the place in which I believe the Republic party finds itself. Disparate forces pulling in many directions. Ideology directing policy. And fighting the predominant culture.

        That Republic Party is gone, as is Beaver Cleaver's America. No more fedoras and pipes and cigars with brandy while the "little woman" whips up something in the kitchen. She does pretty well despite being in the eighth-month of her 4th pregnancy in 5 years....

        My advice?

        Learn Spanish. I have.

        "Wealthy the Spirit which knows its own flight. Stealthy the Hunter who slays his own fright. Blessed is the Traveler who journeys the length of the Light."

        by CanisMaximus on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 07:08:24 PM PST

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    •  Conservative Party (1+ / 0-)
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      The grouch

      Republican moderates (defined as any of them who refrain from baying at the moon) need to rebrand and form a Conservative Party.  They might even attract a few blue dogs.

      Baz

      We are the principled ones, remember? We don't get to use the black hats' tricks even when it would benefit us. Political Compass: -6.88, -6.41

      by bmcphail on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 09:43:37 AM PST

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  •  I agree with most of your points (12+ / 0-)

    in this letter.  (I'll confess to having lost patience about three-quarters of the way through it, and never finished it.  I doubt any Repubs would make it that far. . .)

    I take issue with one very early point:

    It's partially George W. Bush's fault. By choosing Cheney, a man who was never meant to run for President, he left an empty slot in which the next leader of the party should have been standing.
    Bush never chose Cheney (just as Romney never chose Ryan).  The GOP machine found itself stuck with Bush, and felt the need to assign him a manager; Cheney chose himself.  In fact, Bush never was the commander-in-chief, except in superficial title.  This is why he never appeared in Congress without Cheney along.

    Othewise, lots of truth and wisdom here.  Wasted on the GOP. . .

    •  It is my fervent hope (0+ / 0-)

      that George W. Bush will go down in history as the last Republican President.  

      Sure we need a two party system.  There will always be opposition (and that's a good thing).  But I hope Bush lives long enough to realize that his "miserable failure" as President resulted in the utter destruction of his party.

      "Safety and security are the result of collective consensus. We owe our children, the most vulnerable citizens in our society, a life free of violence and fear." - Nelson Mandela. Donate to TREE Climbers

      by TX Freethinker on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 08:37:58 PM PST

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      •  He never will (1+ / 0-)
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        People like Bush or Romney never allow themselves to be introspective enough to realize their mistakes.

        They'll always find someone or something else to blame.  

        Conservatives in general can't seem to understand the simple reason that they lost:  the electorate clearly understood the GOP platform and voted against it.

        Even today, they`re saying that they weren`t conservative enough.  Or that their message wasn`t understood.

  •  Seem like no matter how many times I proof read... (4+ / 0-)

    a diary before posting it I always find grammatical errors, typos and misspellings upon further review.  :-\

    We lose if we choose to forget; the lives of men, and money spent.

    by DeanDemocrat on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 09:43:37 PM PST

  •  I think the problem is more profound than this (17+ / 0-)

    Most progressives have a hard time understanding what is going on with the GOP.  We tend not to get what we are really dealing with there.

    We could have lost this election on the basis of misjudging this. Luckily, Obama is a better politician than we are.

    What is driving the GOP is not really the leadership that we get to see on TV.  

    The rank and file voters have been subjected to some fifty years of organized efforts to create a world view tailored to the way they get information.

    People like Karl Rove understand born again thinking very well.  

    They understand why these people are fearful that things are changing in ways that they are frightened by.

    Many millions of dollars have been spent buying up media influence in a variety of forms.  

    The money side of this comes with a marriage of convenience between completely amoral and ruthless money people who believe in their right to exploit everyone and everthing,  and the born again evangelicals led by preachers who have gotten rich by corrupting Christianity on a very large scale.

    This isn't really a coherent political movement.  It is really a juggernaut of cultural unthinking driven by greed and fear.  It is a coalition built by pandering to bigots of every stripe, to nuerotics who are afraid of just about everything about modern life, and people who just beleive what they are told.

    The problem we face is that we are in a world where communicating in the public marketplace of ideas is quite difficult.  

    We need to invent new ways to communicate and to become persistent as hell in pursuing constructive objectives.

    Can we ask the GOP to reform on such things as getting rid of denial and born again thinking?  

    We should try.  But I think that something that has been developing for fifty years won't be dislodged with any one attempt or even quite a few.

    But, losing this election may open up some mental space.  

    One can hope.  

    We need to become more articulate and forceful in promoting realism and any attempt at dealing with the problems that the world really faces.  We aren't really arguing with people whose worldview is stuck in about 1958.

    hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

    by Stuart Heady on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 07:46:21 AM PST

    •  D'accord (3+ / 0-)
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      BlueEyed In NC, ms badger, ssgbryan

      I think you've presented a most succinct and accurate analysis: "a juggernaut of cultural unthinking driven by greed and fear."

      Such irrationality cannot be unlearned or educated away. As such, this diary cannot "help" them because it can't impinge on their reality.

      We have to nurture sanity and wisdom in the rest of our society to isolate and limit the harm from the destructive symbiosis of these driving forces.

      -6.63 -5.64

      I am I and you are you, and we are both each other too -- Clair Huffaker

      by xysrl on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 09:57:57 AM PST

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  •  Good diary... (3+ / 0-)
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    wbr, ms badger, StrayCat

    I wish I wrote it, and am tempted to steal it and hope nobody finds out.  Oh, crap that would be wrong.  Dang, ethics.

    Tipped & Recc'd.

    "What is being noticed is only an indication of what is being done." Albert Einstein 1954

    by tundraman on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 07:51:14 AM PST

  •  Truer words... (7+ / 0-)

    …have seldom been spoken. Of course, I don't see any of your advice being followed - even if they spent any time outside of their bubble, these words would likely fall on deaf ears - and I don't think they're willing to make the changes necessary to save themselves from obscurity. The GOP has become so ideologically twisted and fundamentally fractured as an organization that I fear it isn't capable of recovery. They've spent so long addicted to restrictive & regressive social policy (on the surface) and unequal & disproven economic policy (their true raison d'être) that I can't see any way for them to kick the habit in time to avoid slipping into utter irrelevance. Just like the once-prominent Whigs, it seems to me that the GOP will soon be reduced to an answer on high school history quizzes. The question is, who will take up the mantle of opposition party? I, for one, would love to see more than one group fill the void.

  •  Cue Eastwoods empty chair. (3+ / 0-)

    Insert Republican party.

  •  MY letter to them is simpler. (13+ / 0-)

    Dear GOP and supporters there of,

    Yes you lost, big time, massively.  

    Because you didn't spend enough money.

    And you didn't go negative enough.

    You ran a Mormon instead of a Christian (next time run someone great like Santorum).  

    Your conversations about women swerved off the rails into the twilight zone, next time avoid the rape thing and just make it plain you simply want to repeal the 19th amendment.

     You need to hold your conventions in Arizona not a coastal city (no more storms to deal with), and don't forget to make sure everyone knows what your party policies are for immigration, have Joe Arpaio repeat it daily.

    Karl Rove had the right math, he just didn't have enough people working for him so hire thousands more lobbyists, uncles, brothers in laws, etc to get out the vote by any means necessary. (See above) also this costs a lot more money (See above).

    All of your campaigns should center themselves in and around Fox news, you know that is the only media outlet that tells the truth and gets your message out to the voters.

     Okay?

    Good luck and best wishes!

     

    The best term for insanity is no longer Jumping the shark, or even going off the deep end, it is now - talking to the chair".

    by Nebraskablue on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 08:18:14 AM PST

  •  Great diary, 'course they won't listen (5+ / 0-)

    But nice try. Personally I see the Repub party going through what Britain's labor party went through in the 80s - a series of losses and growing ideologic rigidity that didn't end until they had been thumped badly enough that they were willing to listen to Tony Blair's 'third way' - Mr Blair's ideology being very similar, by the way to Mr. Obama's, if you leave out the Iraq warmongering (which I think was largely caused by him being duped by his BFF George Bush and misplaced idealism to rid the world of someone who really was a brutal and evil man). So I think the Repubs are going to become MORE ideologic and racist and backward looking because they still haven't been beaten badly enough. It is only when the lose the house as well - when you do get that single party rule - that they will reconstitute themselves into something resembling sanity.

    I mean, really, who among us doesn't think that frothy Ricky Santorum is secretly pleased because he thinks this is 1976 all over again, and he'll be the 2016 version of Ronald Reagan?

    An empty head is not really empty; it is stuffed with rubbish. Hence the difficulty of forcing anything into an empty head. -- Eric Hoffer

    by MichiganChet on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 08:30:40 AM PST

  •  Give Us A Choice Between Reasonable Alternatives (8+ / 0-)
    The choice of President of the United States should not be a high stakes decision. It should be a simple choice between two equally good, capable people who have the best interest of this nation at heart and who will work to preserve what has been accomplished.
    Two equally good, capable people who may differ on their priorities and their approach to solving the problems.  But a viable political party must put forth a candidate who proposes realistic solutions, not pie in the sky ideology that has failed in the past.  Sticking to the truth might be a good idea, too.

    A party that runs a campaign chiefly based on lying to and misleading voters to demonize the other candidate does not reflect well on that party.

  •  I'm not sure I agree. (0+ / 0-)

    The thing is, most of the republicans in congress aren't going to be running for president.  Most of them are running in red states or heavily republican districts.  I'm not sure they're doing their own re-election chances any favors if they go along with Obama without compromise.  Also, if they think Obama's policies are going to fail I don't see how they want to tie themselves to them by voting for them.  

  •  321-217 for Romney (3+ / 0-)
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    I'm so sorry!

      -Glenn Becki-Becki-Becki-Becki-stan-stan

    The Republican Party has been taken over by the corporatists and christian fundamentalists. The corporatists will force you into poverty, and the christian fundamentalists will force you to live under biblical law; daily gruel and scripture for all.

    by glb3 on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 09:36:39 AM PST

  •  The Political Climate Will Be the Climate (3+ / 0-)

    Both parties need to refocus their efforts. Four years from now climate change will be the dominant issue. That race will go to the party and person that people believe has the best plan for dealing with it and keeping them alive.

    So, I've got advice for the Democratic Party: Forget this election and focus on the real issues. The real issues are these:

    Climate change: Over the next four years we will hear and see increasingly alarming evidence that the poles are melting down. This is the megatrend that will swamp all other trends.

    Trade: The deficit that matters is the trade deficit. We need to move production capacity back to the U.S. Not only does that help the economy but it reduces carbon emissions. See pt 1.

    Democracy: We lost it during the Bush Administration. We have until the end of the Obama Administration to get it back. We need to end indefinite detentions, extra-judicial killings, spying on Americans, and illegal searches. No major problem can be solved in the absence of democracy. See pt 1.

    Prejudice: Bigotry is designed to divide people so they can be controlled. There are much bigger problems to solve than which group of people is to blame. See pt 1.

    We need to focus on these issues. The Republicans will either catch up with us--or they'll be irrelevant. The train is departing the station. "We're leaving all excess baggage behind."

  •  Nicely written, but won't be read (2+ / 0-)
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    The grouch, StrayCat

    Your letter is full of interesting ideas, and rings true.

    Unfortunately, it appears the GOP is so far to the right these days that they cannot' even FIND the way to begin coming back to the center, and won't until their rabid teabag cohort has been fully quashed, and removed from its position of influence.

    For a better America, vote the GOP out of office whenever and wherever possible and as soon (and as often) as possible!

    by dagnome on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 10:36:58 AM PST

    •  When some of them believe (3+ / 0-)

      that the problem was that they weren't conservative enough, it becomes surreal. When you can point out that, clearly, the Democrats have not become more liberal, but the Rs are much more conservative, and they respond that the Dems are communists, and FREEDOM and other non-sequiters, it seems hopeless.

      I had a conversation at work this week with a Fox-watcher. He brought up Allen West (See, we have minorities!) and I noted two of West's insanities-the Higher security clearance than the president and the claim of 80 communists in congress-my co-worker said he had NEVER HEARD that West had said those things. It's true, their bubble is self-reinforcing.

      So, I think the only hope is a schism in the party which results in some fraction of sane Republicans either leaving, or pushing out the crazies. But, sadly, I don't know if it's possible.

  •  Clinton-Castro 2016 (1+ / 0-)
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    ssgbryan

    Hillary Clinton and Julian Castro 2016.  Unbeatable!

    "The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn." ~ Alvin Toffler

    by gkfahnbulleh on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 10:45:40 AM PST

  •  I would prefer a more Progressive candidate (4+ / 0-)

    especially during a moment of meltdown in the GOP when they are poised to move to their Left, toward the Center, due to the issues concerning immigration reform. I don't think we need to rely on a DLC-type for 2016, so I can't really support this idea, sorry. I think 2016 presents an opportunity for us to shift the Overton Window a little more to the Left than it has before, since the Republicans will be twisting themselves into pretzels to try to present "moderate" stances that appeal (laugh) to Latinos and women.

    I'm not sure why we're even speculating yet, but I think we ought to just throw it out there that we may be able to risk a more Progressive candidate than we generally have been able to run. But again, I don't want to speculate yet.

  •  We need more than just a two party system (2+ / 0-)
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    StrayCat, No one gets out alive

    If we went to something like ranked voting like Australia then third party candidates would have a real chance to make a difference. Plus we need a national non-partisan board of elections to make every vote counts and automatic registration that follows you no matter were or when you move.  

    Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think..Jethro Tull

    by RMForbes on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 11:51:54 AM PST

  •  The GOP will probably nominate Jeb Bush (3+ / 0-)

    He will be viewed as a known quantity, a winner, who will unite the GOP.

    We need to paint him as the elitist he is. and oh yeah, did you know he's related to W -  which should be the scariest letter in the alphabet

    Slow thinkers - keep right

    by Dave the Wave on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 12:25:12 PM PST

  •  i'm kinda hoping for an Obama/Warren ticket in '16 (2+ / 0-)

    Michelle & Elizabeth.

    to republicans rape is "God's will" but homosexuality is somehow a "choice". republican yahweh is a dick.

    by bnasley on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 12:34:27 PM PST

  •  Let's leave 'dynasties' in the past. (4+ / 0-)

    They depend on their past glories for authority and narrow the vision for the future.

    Elizabeth Warren sounds like a good idea but her lack of political experience may hurt her chances.

    Biden has been running for the office forever...

    Let's get a year out from the election and see.

  •  If the Justice Department even takes a (1+ / 0-)
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    StrayCat

    sideways glance at the Republican party, Nathan Sproul, and all Sproul's election fraud activities, I think they'll find enough smoking guns to put the party out of business with a RICO suit.

    And then, well, a new party will come into prominence to take its place.

  •  Disagree that if Hillary resigns, she's running (0+ / 0-)

    SOS is a brutal, draining job.

  •  Fuck the R's - Throw them an anchor (1+ / 0-)
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    ssgbryan

    Let them be known in the future as being like the Whigs - a footnote lost in history.

    The Democratic party can take the right - Measured by most other countries standards, they already are.

    There will then be room for an actual liberal party.  Bernie Sanders and his cohort will be most welcome.  I'll be glad to join!


    The Fail will continue until actual torches and pitchforks are set in motion. - Pangolin@kunstler.com

    by No one gets out alive on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 07:18:55 PM PST

  •  Dearest Republicans, (0+ / 0-)

    Do YOURSELVES a favor, fire Rush.  He's feeding you lies and rage, all so he can sell you cheap crap and feather his own nest.  Don't let your party be run by the smallest minds available.
    Love,
    Patriots

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