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I called John McCain's office in Washington DC and got through to a staffer. Lindsey Graham's office in DC answers, lets one leave a message but hangs ups if one presses #2 to speak to someone. Graham's Greenville office answers.

FWIW I have said to the staffer who answers the phone that Senator Graham looks drunk with his eyes rolling in his head and raving in rage attacking Susan Rice who had nothing to do with Benghazi. I told Senator McCain that he and Graham look like school yard bullies with a political agenda.

I told them that they are on a witch hunt for political purposes - maybe to get John Kerry appointed to a position so that Scott Brown has a senate office to run for in Massachusetts.

And I told them that I want a sober process in Congress to get to the bottom of how our Ambassador to Lybia and 4 Americans were killed. The Senate has the responsibility to find out what happened, but this witch hunt is unseemly and Graham and McCain look like fools.

I also called Mitch McConnel's office but they said they have no control over these two idiots (my words).

This is an outrage.

I called Graham's Greenville office and at first the person answering started ranting and raving like Graham but I stopped him cold when I said that maybe it looks that way from DC. I told him he was hysterical and that stopped him . I told him we need a sober investigation and I want that done too and that Graham and McCain are making fools of themselves.
He calmed down and said he'd pass what I said along.

alright then ....I'll stop,

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  •  Tip Jar (11+ / 0-)

    Finally people have gotten sick and tired of being had and taken for idiots. Mikhail Gorbachev

    by eve on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:08:59 AM PST

  •  I'm still puzzled as to why the Senate needs to (3+ / 0-)
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    RJDixon74135, eve, myboo

    investigate at all. Why do you feel they need to investigate? What, exactly, will an investigation accomplish? Is there serious thought, outside of Fox News propaganda, that any wrongdoing occurred?

    "I cannot live without books" -- Thomas Jefferson, 1815

    by Susan Grigsby on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:13:14 AM PST

    •  I think the conspiracy stuff is crap too but (3+ / 0-)
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      svboston, RJDixon74135, eve

      I'd like us to figure out how we can keep something like that from happening again. Something went wrong if four Americans died, however unwittingly. Let's use the tragedy to learn something.

      Oklahoma: birthplace of Kate Barnard, W. Rogers, W. Guthrie, Bill Moyers & Eliz. Warren. Home to proud progressive agitators since before statehood. Current political climate a mere passing dust cloud; we're waiting it out & planning for clearer days.

      by peacearena on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:18:04 AM PST

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      •  And you don't think the federal departments (4+ / 0-)
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        RJDixon74135, ahumbleopinion, myboo, eve

        involved want the same thing? The only thing that Congressional hearing will accomplish is to politicize this tragedy. The State Department, the CIA and the Defense Department are already investigating: why does this consulate attack require a separate investigation that past attacks on our embassies have not required?

        "I cannot live without books" -- Thomas Jefferson, 1815

        by Susan Grigsby on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:29:26 AM PST

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        •  maybe you're right. (0+ / 0-)

          I don't know enough about this.
          I do not want to see it politicized.
          That is wrong.
          I would like the appropriate departments of the federal government to get to the bottom of who and what happened.

          I would like to hear from others what legitimate role the Congress should play in this, if any.

          Thanks.

          Finally people have gotten sick and tired of being had and taken for idiots. Mikhail Gorbachev

          by eve on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 12:20:56 PM PST

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      •  Do you think that Repubs care about the deaths of (1+ / 0-)
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        eve

        4 people?  My god, they started the war in Iraq by mistake, or so they want us to believe, maybe because thinking that is better than knowing why they really did it - a sobering thought.

        They don't care. Every death cannot be prevented.  

        It is entirely political.

        The elevation of appearance over substance, of celebrity over character, of short term gains over lasting achievement displays a poverty of ambition. It distracts you from what's truly important. - Barack Obama

        by helfenburg on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 12:15:28 PM PST

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    •  Very simple. SCOTT BROWN!! (4+ / 0-)
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      svboston, eve, Susan from 29, helfenburg

      They want to force President Obama to nominate John Kerry for SOS, opening up his senate seat for Brown.

      Lawrence O'Donnell thinks that is their main motive. I say it fits.

      Not voting is NOT an option this time around.

      by AreDeutz on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:20:39 AM PST

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      •  I'm starting to think it is to raise funds for GOP (2+ / 0-)
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        Congressional coffers. Another diary this morning points out the robocalls that are now being made about Benghazi. Link

        "I cannot live without books" -- Thomas Jefferson, 1815

        by Susan Grigsby on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:32:01 AM PST

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      •  But if Kerry is picked for SecDef or SOS... (1+ / 0-)
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        ... the seat is still open.  There's no way that Patrick is going to appoint Brown for that seat if that is the process.  If the process is an election in MA, does anyone really think that Brown can win now that the blueprint to beat him has been written?

        If the seat does need to be filled via election, it will be interesting to see if the money flows into Brown's coffers as rapidly as it did in the past.  It would prove whether the Republican money machine has learned its lesson from the last election.  My guess is that Brown will have less money because 1) Edwards campaign team is still in tact, 2) Kerry is going to enhance the Edwards campaign team to make sure that any democrat in the race is fully backed, 3) after losing hundreds of millions of dollars in a losing cause, Rethugs are going to think twice about pouring tens of millions into a likely losing cause (regardless of their ideology no one wants to be considered stupid).

        I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

        by Hey338Too on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:36:14 AM PST

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        •  The blueprint was for Warren to beat him. (1+ / 0-)
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          Unless the Democrats can field a real good candidate I think Brown has a very good chance of winning an open seat election.

          •  Granted... (1+ / 0-)
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            ... but MA Democrats also have the blueprint for that.  Brown probably shouldn't have been elected to that seat in the first place, but the MA Dems chose a person who took the campaign for granted and thought she could coast to victory.  I am sure that the MA Dems know who is on their bench and who has a reasonable chance to defeat Brown should the opportunity arise.

            I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

            by Hey338Too on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 11:30:24 AM PST

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    •  Ahhh, our esteemed senators -- the real (2+ / 0-)
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      job creators. How many bed checkers could we empl?

      FWIW, I think the diarist is spot on in thinking the Repubs want John Kerry at State and Scott Brown back in the Senate, especially now that they have to deal with THAT WOMAN from Massachusetts. Kerry is smart enough to see right through them, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't like the State job. He should take a look at Hillary and see how exhausted she is. He's sitting in the catbird seat right where he is.

      Eliminate tax breaks that stimulate the offshoring of jobs.

      by RJDixon74135 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:31:05 AM PST

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    •  well, I'm not sure. (1+ / 0-)
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      The Senate, I think, has oversight over the CIA. And our ambassador was killed and four Americans were killed and this should be investigated, IMO, to see what happened.

      Susan Rice has absolutely nothing to do with this. They are trying to make her a pawn in a bizarre vicious political witch hunt which both Graham and McCain seem to get off on.

      They are behaving like fools and idiots and demean the Senate with every word that comes out of their mouths.

      They are lying and vicious.
      They have some anger management problems and have convinced themselves and are trying to get some witch hunt off the ground by trying to undermine President Obama's creds on foreign policy, military affairs, etc. They think they own that. But they DO NOT.
      They are offended that a Democratic President has taken the military creds out from under them.

      It is beyond bizarre that they would think that they can diminish what President Obama has accomplished namely, proving that a Democrat, has outmaneuvered the Republican schtick on super power our way or the highway triumphalism with a more sober and responsible approach to the exercise of our power. They want to undermine the truth that this president has demonstrated a sober sense of responsibilty and concern for the people who serve this country overseas. They can't stand being powerless with their outdated ideas.

      Their childishness in all this somehow reminds me of the scene in Prizzi's Honor when Charlie (Jack Nicholson)  is asking Maerose (Anjelica Huston) what he should do about Irene (Kathleen Turner):

      [Charlie is telling Maerose about Irene]

      Charley Partanna: I met her in a church. It just happened. I knew she was the woman for me. She'd organized the scam in Vegas. I go looking for the bad guy and it turns out to be my woman, can you imagine this? Not only that - Pop tells me she's the piece man for the Nettabino contract. Just the same, I love her, Mae... I love her.
      Maerose Prizzi: Well...
      Charley Partanna: How can I live with this? I gotta do something about it. I gotta straighten it out.
      Maerose Prizzi: Then do.
      Charley Partanna: Do what? Do I ice her? Do I marry her? Which one of these?
      Maerose Prizzi: Marry her, Charley. Just because she's a thief and a hitter doesn't mean she's not a good woman in all the other  departments. If she was some kind of fashion model, well it wouldn't last more than thirty days. But you and she is in the same line of business. You are lucky you found each other, you know that, Charley?
      Charley Partanna: Yeah, I guess.
      Maerose Prizzi: She's an American! She had a chance to make a buck so she grabbed it. Marry her, Charley. Then at least I'll be able to get something out of it... I'll be able to go back in the family.
      Charley Partanna: Yeah.
      http://www.imdb.com/...

      John McCain and Lindsey Graham "are Americans, they are powerful Senators, they need to grab the headlines and push the president out of the way and reclaim their uber authority over military foreign affairs so their childishness is not irrelevant to policy decisions that have started to recognize the people of other countries instead of just the dictators that Republicans are more used to "working" with.

      It is a major shift in diplomacy and cultural awareness that they do not understand or like.

      Finally people have gotten sick and tired of being had and taken for idiots. Mikhail Gorbachev

      by eve on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:57:48 AM PST

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  •  Making?!? (4+ / 0-)

    They've both been fools for a long time.

  •  Liar Little Lindsay Graham (5+ / 0-)
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    svboston, eve, Deep Texan, vcmvo2, scribeboy

    Lawrence O'Donnell kicked his little ass last night

  •  Thank you, eve. You said exactly the right (1+ / 0-)
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    eve

    thing. We could all use it as something of a script for calls and emails.

    Eliminate tax breaks that stimulate the offshoring of jobs.

    by RJDixon74135 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:24:35 AM PST

  •  Proceed Senator.... (5+ / 0-)

    Notice: This Comment © 2012 ROGNM

    by ROGNM on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:25:33 AM PST

  •  correction: they are fools exposing themselves (1+ / 0-)
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    eve

    My best guess was a reflection that did not look back, an image lost in every mirror.

    by Zacapoet on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 08:28:40 AM PST

  •  THESE FOOLS (1+ / 0-)
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    eve

    had taught they were going to be co-presidents with Obama.I guess when Obama honored in 2009 prior to his inauguration  Mcbitter McCain probably took it as a signal that he will be co-president shame he is a very very bitter man.

  •  Neither a first...nor a last... (1+ / 0-)
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    •  you mean (0+ / 0-)

      this won't be the first time or the last time that these two "Senators" behave like fools?

      Finally people have gotten sick and tired of being had and taken for idiots. Mikhail Gorbachev

      by eve on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 09:57:31 AM PST

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  •  TailGunner McCain is used to crashing and burning. (1+ / 0-)
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    •  lol (0+ / 0-)

      General Clark fell on his sword when he went to the CBS Bob Schiefert interview and said that just because McCain knew how to fly planes (or not - given that he crashed and burned a couple of times) that he was qualified to be commander in chief.
      Scheifert was shocked, but the truth is that Clark broke the bubble of denial about MCain's judgement and qualifications. Just because he was a war hero and suffered terribly for his country does not mean that he had the judgment or character to serve as president.

      He did good when he told the woman at his campaign rally that "no ma'am he's not......, he's a good man who I disagree with".
      McCain has some moments of sanity but he's being driven off the cliff by Linsdsey Graham with this nonsense.

      Finally people have gotten sick and tired of being had and taken for idiots. Mikhail Gorbachev

      by eve on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 09:56:54 AM PST

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  •  Just when I start thinking that maybe, just maybe (1+ / 0-)
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    eve

    John McCain has some redeeming features, he goes and
    acts like this and shatters my illusion.

    What a DH!

    The elevation of appearance over substance, of celebrity over character, of short term gains over lasting achievement displays a poverty of ambition. It distracts you from what's truly important. - Barack Obama

    by helfenburg on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 12:12:56 PM PST

    •  he can be pretty flakey (0+ / 0-)

      why do I keep thinking that Lindsey Graham got him started on this...

      Lindsey Graham is a POS.
      nuff said

      Finally people have gotten sick and tired of being had and taken for idiots. Mikhail Gorbachev

      by eve on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 12:24:17 PM PST

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