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U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) addresses the American Conservative Union's annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington, February 9, 2012.
Last week we raised some noise when it was called to our attention that Sen. Rubio could not answer the question about the age of the earth. He answered by saying "I'm not a scientist man." which is the the opposite of Ghostbuster legend Peter Venkmen's (Bill Murray) line "Back off man - I'm a scientist".  The GOP - fresh off their electoral losses has been trying to find a way to reform their party. They lost 93% percent of blacks - over 70% Hispanics, and 53% of women voters. They have neglected to have to conversation about the strangle hold religious fundamentalists have on the party. They do not talk about the unseemly influence of the Pat Roberson types, or how attempting to legislate their interpretation of scriptures might turn off voters. If they are going to move forward an continue to be a national party when it is a fact they will have to face.

Bold added by the diarist.

GQ: How old do you think the Earth is?

    Marco Rubio: I'm not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States. I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow. I'm not a scientist. I don't think I'm qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says. Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries.

We can expect such piece-meal answers from a man like Rubio who does not have a reputation for bucking his parties establishment when it comes to their dogma. However one would expect a bit better from NJ Gov. Chris Christie. Fresh off getting accolades for his handling of Hurricane Sandy and working together with President Obama and the federal government we are reminded why this man is not qualified to be president.  That while his RNC speech focused mainly on 2016 while ignoring the 2012 race Gov. Christie will not be accepted by the wing of his party that continually dances with the religious right. They will not accept him as one of their own and he does himself an injustice when he attempts to pander to them. Do you want a repeat of 2011? When you enter the GOP primary do you think these people are going to believe that you are sufficiently conservative enough to wear the mantle?

According to NJ.com

Gov. Chris Christie refused to comment when asked if he believes in evolution or the theory of creationism when asked at a press conference earlier today.

“That’s none of your business,” Christie said.

Last week at a town hall in Manalapan, Chistie said he thought the decision to teach creationism in public schools should be made at the local level. He reitereated that position today.

“Evolution is required teaching,” Christie said. “If there’s a certain school district that also wants to teach creationism, that’s not something we should decide in Trenton.”

Gov - Christie. With all due respect that is something you decide in Trenton. You were elected to serve the people of New Jersey - to uphold the state consistution and to defend people against the infringement of their rights. Often times when talking about religious freedom in America we leave out the part where as Americans we have the right to be free from religion as well.
Christie clarified that this position was not an endorsement of teaching creationism. "That is not to say, as it was interpreted by some that I was advocating for the teaching of creationism," Christie said. "Folks never really have a hard time figuring out when I'm advocating for something."
We sure do have a hard time figuring out what you are advocating for. The Wall Street Journal took the time to then point out:
For a politician who has built a national reputation for straight talk and not shying from a fight, Christie's demurral on creationism stands out. In the past, he has said people need not wonder where he stands on an issue.

"When you guys ask me questions, I'm going to answer them directly, straightly, bluntly, and nobody in New Jersey is going to have to wonder where I am on an issue," he said a year ago, adding: "I think they've had enough of politicians who make them wonder ... They make them wonder so they got an escape hatch. So they have an escape hatch. And I'm not interested in an escape hatch."

Evolution is real. Creationism is a religious belief.

That would be a "straight talker" answer.

Where is your escape hatch Governor?

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  •  "That's none of your business." (2+ / 0-)
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    Tool, wasatch

    Would that Christie's answer actually be workable the these days of religious right nutjobs.

    I like that part of his answer.  Speaking for myself, I think creationism is ridiculous, but if said belief gets you through the day, well, fine with me.  It's none of my business.  That is, until you make it my business basing public policy on it, in direct contravention of the Establishment Clause.

    And that, of course, is where Christie is stuck.  A Republican who punts the question to a lower house accepts the science and accepts evolution.  Damned if he or she can actually say so though.

  •  I believe CC is the most dangerous R pol around (3+ / 0-)
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    Tool, wasatch, not this time

    because he is not an idiot like most of them.

    However, that being said, he is the biggest (pardon the pun,) wolf in sheep's clothing of them all.  I believe that he is manipulative, lying, opportunistic, a shape-shifter, and the biggest con man and bully around.  

    That is the REAL MAN.

    His appearance on SNL was the launch of his 'charm offensive' to package himself for 2016 pres race.  I guess his pr firm told him that Romney lost because he was not likeable and that that was one area he needed improvement in.

    Politics is 99% pr anyway.  

    Anyone who believes that this knuckle dragger has changed deserves what they get.

    That said, he is the most dangerous R that we have to contend with and we had better contend with him starting now, if we don't want him to continue his blustering take down of labor, education, infrastructure; he is the Sheriff of Nottingham, taking from the poor to give to the rich.  

    And he is determined to get the 'King John' job, so he can hand it all over to his buddies on Wall Street.

    There cannot be too many diaries warning us of this creep.

    It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything. ~~Joseph Stalin

    by SeaTurtle on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 07:24:24 AM PST

  •  I seriously (1+ / 0-)
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    wasatch

    think he is going to run into the same problem that Romney had for different reasons. The religious right never accepted Romney because he was a Mormon but Christie much like Romney governs a north-eastern state. I feel like they will shun him because of guilt by association and Christie will have to run away from any liberalness that he has expressed.

    He is a bully and I don't think Sandy absolves him of the way he has governed - much like I never bought into the crap that Giuliani - Mr 9/11 - could be absolved from the horrible civil liberty (now worse under Bloomberg) that he engaged in.  

  •  While I do not wish a third term on President (1+ / 0-)
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    Obama, if we are going to talk about 2016, we should talk about repealing the 22nd Amendment or, at least, modify it by inserting the word "consequctive," leaving the possibility of a return for someone like Bill Clinton open. Penalizing a good public servant with an automatic firing is a really bad idea. It only makes sense, if the presidency is a sort of figure head slot, a rotating monarchy at which as many people as possible should have a shot. But, if competence and achievement are serious criteria, then an automatic firing makes no sense. In 2004 it provided an excuse for keeping on a dolt; in 2012 it provided an excuse for not considering a multitude of serious issues at all.
    The Romney candidacy was a disgrace to the nation and an insult to the sitting President. Not to mention a waste of our time.

    We organize governments to provide benefits and prevent abuse.

    by hannah on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 08:05:30 AM PST

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