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Ah, the holidays. Family, food, festivities ... And of course, for some people, holidays are about trying to put the "fun" in dysfunctional. So what are you bracing yourself for?

Screaming match with that crazy uncle who won't stop forwarding all those "Obama's a scary socialist Kenyan Muslim" emails? Defending yourself against your mother's complaints that you don't visit enough? Revisiting your childhood with some good old-fashioned fights with your siblings? (Mooooooom, he took my drumstick!)

Maybe you'll be finding a polite way to feed grandma's "signature dish" to the dog. Perhaps you're just praying for patience to deal with those in-laws you can't stand.

Delayed flights. Bumper-to-bumper traffic. Kids fighting in the back seat. Burnt turkey. Forget the well wishes and recipe exchanges; let's dish the dirt. What are your worst holiday stories? What fills you with dread now that the holiday season is upon us?

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    •  And to you too… (6+ / 0-)

      I'll be spending the All-American holiday with my Russian-born wife, her Russian father, our two kids, an Iranian family we're friends with, eating vegetarian lasagna, and watching the Texans beat the Lions. Hey CBS kick-off already!

      Teh stoopidTM, it hurts. Buy smart, union-printed, USA-made, signs, stickers, swag for everyone: DemSign.com. Get your We are the 99% Yard Sign.

      by DemSign on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:27:06 AM PST

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      •  My mother's family was Polish, (5+ / 0-)

        and all their friends were Polish, so I have no idea where she got the following story, but we had to listen to it every time we sat down to Thanksgiving dinner.

        It seems that at some point during my mother's childhood, a jovial Mr. Vaughan, otherwise unidentified and unidentifiable, while eating his Thanksgiving dinner, laughed at something with his mouth full and subsequently choked to death on a piece of turkey.

        This was always said with my mother shaking a fork at both my sister and myself, for emphasis.  We knew better than to ask how her family knew even the existence of someone not named Chojnowski, Kotkiewicz or Wojciechowski.

        I'm not sixty-two—I'm fifty-twelve!

        by Pragmatus on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:55:14 AM PST

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        •  Have you ever seen the Jean Shepherd classic (3+ / 0-)
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          "The Star-Crossed Romance of Josephine Cosnowski"?

          It's Shepherd's companion piece to "A Christmas Story" and "The Great American Fourth of July" in that it tells the story of how Ralph (now a senior in High School) becomes infatuated with the exotic Polish Catholic gal whose family moves in next door, with a hilarious subplot about how Ralph's little brother copes with the disappoinment of being cast as a turkey in his school's Thanksgiving pageant. Hijinks ensue.

          The opening was filmed at the now-closed Orson Welles Cinema in Cambridge. Jean Shepherd narrates, and appears as the older Ralph in the "envelope" opening and closing.

          We watch it every Thanksgiving. Unfortunately it's not available on DVD or even VHS--at Chez Sharoney we recorded it on our then-new VCR as it aired on PBS.

          But it IS on YOUTUBE! The whole thing! So enjoy--and Happy Thanksgiving!

          "The truth will set you free...but first it'll piss you off." - Gloria Steinem

          by Sharoney on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 10:39:42 AM PST

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  •  I pretty much don't do holidays. When my mother (37+ / 0-)

    was alive, we would have a pretty traditional Thanksgiving dinner. I'd cook half, and she's cook the other half. But it's been some time since that was the case.

    Today two of my sons and I will have dinner together, but as an indication of our wacky family, we'll be having a tofu/greens stir fry with a Chinese style sauce, spicy cabbage adapted from an Indian recipe, my aunt's carrot kugel, and some scalloped potatoes I made yesterday from a recipe I found on the Internet, because my CSA insists on sending me more potatoes!

  •  Am I the only one pondering why (21+ / 0-)

    The Fellow on the lower right in the painting is looking at Normal Rockwell the painter in a Breaking the 4th wall sort of way

    The 1st Amendment gives you the right to say stupid things, the 1st Amendment doesn't guarantee a paycheck to say stupid things.

    by JML9999 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:06:16 AM PST

  •  Staying very local. (25+ / 0-)

    Both our kids and their families live in the area and so do their spouses parents, and we're going over to our son-in-law's parents.

    The politics of who's doing Thanksgiving at whose house can be a little dicey and we just accepted the first invitation we got. Other years, if everyone's made other plans, we just head out of town, drive up to Montreal where it's not Thanksgiving, or head for the island of Culebra (Puerto Rico) where it sort of is.

    Fortunately, there are no deep political divisions in our families. Everyone's a librul, or better.

    What are we bringing to dinner? Well we were asked by out hostess to bring deviled eggs, something I have never made before in 62 years of my existence.

    "This is NOT what I thought i'd be when i grew up."

    by itzik shpitzik on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:08:17 AM PST

  •  Cleaning the house in preparation :) (23+ / 0-)

    fun fun fun, but hey I found some quarters under the chair cushion--woohoo!

    Mother-in-Law is coming over later, and she is an unbelievable cook. So, I will stuff myself.

    "If you don't sin, then Jesus died for nothing!" (on a sign at a Mardi Gras parade in New Orleans)

    by ranger995 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:08:29 AM PST

  •  My sister and brother-in-law are (23+ / 0-)

    hosting me, my husband and our kids.  Very low key. My nieces and nephews are scattered out of town. All my relatives are Democrats--don't think I don't realize how lucky I am.  My sister and brother-in-law were out of the country for the election so we are going to give them a blow-by-blow account of election night, with emphasis on a re-creation of Rove's Fox meltdown.  Should be fun!

    Nobody puts Baby in the binder

    by chicago minx on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:10:23 AM PST

  •  We've been doing the (20+ / 0-)

    Thanksgiving meal for over 4 decades with the same group of friends and relatives. The only problem we used to have, before we re-wired the house, was that every year when we started the coffee the fuse would blow and we'd be plunged into darkness. These were screw-in fuses, not a circuit breaker, so recovery was slow.

    Ceiling Cat rules....srsly.

    by side pocket on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:14:08 AM PST

  •  Rib roast (19+ / 0-)

    baked potatoes, spinach salad, pumpkin pie.  That's our feast today!

    being mindful and keepin' it real

    by Raggedy Ann on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:18:11 AM PST

    •  Everyone contributes. About a dozen people (5+ / 0-)

      some of whom are related, some friends, and all of them bring something for the table.  A giant centerpiece made by a neighbor; turkey and cornbread dressing brought by another neighbor; whole cranberry sauce (homemade), lovingly cooked by neighbor #2's grandmother); candied yams (they're my contribution - no marshmallows!  no cinnamon!); yeast rolls prepared from scratch by another  friend; greens, cleaned and cooked by another friend; fried green beans w/almonds, using fresh green beans and slivered almonds, toted over by the sister of the yeast rolls friend; pecan and pumpkin pies presented by the newlywed neighbors, and fresh fruit salad slaved over by one of the newlyweds' mother.  Everybody brings what they want to drink - guaranteed to be lots of wine, a few beers and 3 liters of Sprite.

      Meal served at 1:30, because the Cowboys play at 3:00 (most everyone will be snoring in the den by the second half).

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:52:14 AM PST

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  •  That lady setting the 25 lb turkey in the middle (15+ / 0-)

    of the table is about to throw out her back!

    Hold on...it appears the turkey is levitating and she's just trying to push it down!  

    "Well, yeah, the Constitution is worth it if you succeed." - Nancy Pelosi // Question: "succeed" at what?

    by nailbender on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:19:27 AM PST

  •  there was that thanksgiving (15+ / 0-)


    when a huge blizzard came through and we didn't have any gas (which is what ran the oven), and the gas man wouldn't come for another 12 hours (because a bunch of other people were out of gas too) and my mother threw the (frozen) turkey at my father.

    I believe after that it got rinsed off and we ended up cooking it at my grandmother's house but that part is fuzzy.  Oh yeah, those were the days....

    Needless to say I'm having a deli turkey sandwich for lunch and that's about it! heheheh!  No travel, no relatives.

    "Kossacks are held to a higher standard. Like Hebrew National hot dogs." - blueaardvark

    by louisev on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:22:15 AM PST

    •  Couple of years ago, my ex ran out of propane with (5+ / 0-)
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      three of her kids, a son in law and two babies in the house. No stove, no hot water. The gas company wanted a two hundred dollar bonus to send out a driver on Thanksgiving Day. I went over and spliced a 40 pound can of propane into the line and they were good to go. I went to the orphans' picnic at the local Alano club...no invite for saving the day. A good reminder of why, and grateful for it.

      I quit school very young, and never learned how to believe things just because I was told to.

      by socalmonk on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:46:33 AM PST

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    •  Most fulfilling Thanksgivings ever (10+ / 0-)

      were the years I worked in soup kitchens on Thanksgiving days.  Hard work, food not so good, but the gratitude in those people's eyes will give me joy until the day I die.

      Worst Thanksgiving ever: the year my uncle told a "nigger joke" at the table.  I yelled at him, then threw food at him, then stalked out of house, fuming.  My mother cried and tried to apologize; my chattering cousins fell completely silent; my aunt's jaw hit the floor; my other aunt and uncle, always snooty, tut-tut'ed, and my father just sat there smiling.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:00:17 AM PST

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      •  I agree, we do that since our parents died and our (2+ / 0-)
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        siblings live so far away.  We spend a few hours volunteering at a free Thanksgiving meal to the community before heading out to a restaurant and for a nice long drive on Thanksgiving.

        Our adult son is not into spending holidays with family so he never comes here for holidays and would prefer to do his own thing with coworkers and friends. So it is just the two of us.

        I am very close to my sister since our parents passed on but she visits and stays with me for a month in the summer and we have our Thanksgiving dinner in July.  That is because she is a teacher and she lives so far away. she lives in GA and we live in PA.  Someday soon, she plans to retire closer to me and then we will once again have traditional thanksgiving.

        For now, just hubby and me and I bake pies, he makes a cheese and veggie platter and then we have those after our meal at a restaurant and stopping in to help at the Community dinner.

        Follow PA Keystone Liberals on Twitter: @KeystoneLibs

        by wishingwell on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:49:54 AM PST

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      •  Sounds lovely. (5+ / 0-)
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        If he's still living, call him up.

        "Hey, Unc, how many black Presidents does it take to make this country great?  ONE!"

        Then hang up and take the phone off the hook for the rest of the day.

        (-6.25, -6.77) Moderate left, moderate libertarian

        by Lonely Liberal in PA on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:53:47 AM PST

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        •  Unfortunately, he died about 10 years ago. (0+ / 0-)

          He was a good man, loving father, faithful wife - he was just a victim of his time.  He never learned, though; he died despising Mexicans.  I'm sure someone explained the errors in his thinking in the great hereafter.  I smile when I think of his heavenly mentor being a large, brilliant black man  who is married to a beautiful Mexican woman with the gift of bestowing karma.  HA!

          "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

          by SueDe on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 02:46:46 PM PST

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  •  Working. (26+ / 0-)

    I'll grab a turkey dinner to go from a local restaurant before I go. They are a family owned and operated business so I can support them on this day guilt-free.

    Some friends will bring me another dinner tonight when they break out their "leftovers."

    I volunteered to work on this day so a co-worker can have the entire day with her family. I'm doing the same thing on Christmas.

    I can also use the extra money.

    Have a great Thanksgiving day no matter your plans and keep it safe!

  •  Turkey in the oven... (21+ / 0-)

    thanks to the generosity of some very nice friends...

    While it is a lean time at my house, I have good friends and family to be thankful for...

    Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! I am thankful for this place to get information and share community!

    Our country can survive war, disease, and poverty... what it cannot do without is justice.

    by mommyof3 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:23:14 AM PST

  •  Thanksgiving in the woods (28+ / 0-)

    About 80 friends and family have a Thanksgiving dinner under a group of hemlocks - complete with picnic tables, bonfires and music. It's beautiful. On the colder years it's a bit challenging, but all the same it's great.

    Then I head to some cousin's about an hour from there for a second round of eating. I try not to eat anything in the morning because of this.

    It's fun. I miss my mother dearly this time of the year, but at least at Thanksgiving I have great things to do.

    Helping a food pantry on the Cheyenne River Reservation,Okiciyap." >www.okiciyap.yolasite.com<"

    by betson08 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:23:27 AM PST

  •  My mom just told me her doctor (20+ / 0-)

    Told her to vote for Romney. When she held out for Obama he told her she was only patient he couldn't get to change her mind!

    I am so mad at this rich doctor doing this because god forbid he has to pay more taxes!

    My mom is 85 I bet the other people were trying to make doc like them so he would take care of them.

    There should be a law against using patients like that.

  •  Our family gatherings have always been (12+ / 0-)

    at my Mother and Father's home, which is about twenty minute's drive from my apartment in L.A. Other relatives in SO Cal would drive to come stay with us. However, their number has started to dwindle, from moving away, raising their own families, and, of course, death.

    The "difficult uncle" at Thanksgiving was Tim. He died two years ago, and although I still have some unpleasant memories of his political arguments 'round Thanksgiving, I loved him and when he wasn't off on the political bender he was a sweet, fascinating man who knew more about computers in the '80s than anyone else I knew—as a kid, that was so cool to me. It was terrible moment when I found out he died (I had only seen him two days before, and he looked fine), and I find myself missing him the most around Thanksgiving. Maybe I even miss those occasional politically unpleasant moments? :)

    Everything starts to seem sweeter about a loved one, even what you once found bitter, when you realize you will never get to see them again.

    Love you Uncle Tim!

    •  Hm. (3+ / 0-)
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      Everything starts to seem sweeter about a loved one, even what you once found bitter, when you realize you will never get to see them again.
      Not always.

      I have too many memories of Thanksgivings where my mother, simmering with yet another unspoken grudge, egged my father on as she made the Thanksgiving meal (and she was a shitty cook, but wouldn't let anyone help her), her unrelenting vitriol inevitably peaking as we sat down to eat, until my father finally threw dinner against the wall and left the house until late in the evening, while the rest of us girls were reduced to tears or mortified silence as we choked down dinner.

      We usually got a encore performance of this drama at Christmas and New Years' as well, one miserable year after another, until I'd my fill of this dysfunction and, once I had the means, left home for good.

      They are both gone now. I desperately miss my father. My mother, not so much.

      Spousal Unit and I are spending Thanksgiving in our preferred way--just the two of us. I've been banned from the kitchen while he works his magic. Right now he's preparing a seven-course turkey dinner with dessert. My only responsibility is to set a festive table, tidy up the rest of the house, and enjoy a fabulous meal with the man I dearly love.

      His relatives all are gone now,  except for his brother, who lives out of state, whom we'll call later on. I caught up with one sister earlier today by phone for almost an hour--her hubby has to work today so she'll make an evening Thanksgiving dinner and observe the holiday with him tonight after a visit from her wonderful daughter in the afternoon.

      I'll respond to an email from a second sister today. The third.... well, she and I haven't spoken or contacted each other in two years--her choice. Frankly, it's a relief. It's tough dealing with a narcissist during the holidays.

      So it will be a happy Thanksgiving. No anxiety-laden travel time, no meltdowns, no veiled insults, no political arguments, no one-upmanship, no manipulative head games, no bullshit. Just peace and quiet, great food, and stress-free, uninterrupted time with my best friend and soulmate, and I'm looking forward to it!

      "The truth will set you free...but first it'll piss you off." - Gloria Steinem

      by Sharoney on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 10:23:52 AM PST

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      •  Our thanksgivings were usually ok (1+ / 0-)
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        But Christmas was always more drama than any child should have to deal with.

        I made a promise to myself that if I ever got married and had kids, there would be NO fights on holidays. Ever.

        And there haven't been. Life's too short, and those scars stay forever.

        My parents have been dead for years, and I still remember those fights. I remember a few good times, but the fights outnumber them.

        Which is a real shame.

  •  Home alone. Kids all grown and with their (14+ / 0-)

    Own families.  Making my first ever slow cooker pot roast . . . Which is looking way too watery.   Mysteries of the crockpot, I guess.

    "Let's see what fresh fuckwittery these dolts can contrive to torment themselves with this time." -- Iain Banks, The Hydrogen Sonata

    by Rikon Snow on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:26:31 AM PST

  •  Anybody who gets between me and my drumstick (11+ / 0-)

    is going to have serious problems.  (Actually, for some reason, I'm the only person in my family who prefers dark meat, so I usually have no competition there.)

    Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

    -5.13,-5.64; If you gave [Jerry Falwell] an enema, you could bury him in a matchbox. -- Christopher Hitchens

    by gizmo59 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:26:59 AM PST

  •  47.50% (11+ / 0-)

    It's --THAT-- close!!

    God gave you free will to define God, use it to make the best God that you can.

    by Dotty Gale on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:27:46 AM PST

  •  Our family gathering (16+ / 0-)

    is one of those tinged with sadness, our first holiday without our family matriarch.  We are each doing one or more of her special holiday recipes and one of her daughters is our hostess.  So, very traditional food with great family, all on one page politically.  Mom would have been thrilled election night.  

  •  Just the two of us. (13+ / 0-)

    I refuse to drive on holidays, when the drunks tend to be driving.  We'll start cooking dinner in about two hours.

    And I guess I decided to share a diary, link in my .sig.

  •  Thanksgiving in 上大岡 (9+ / 0-)

    As Thursday has come and gone here in Japan my day was spent working.  

  •  Thanksgiving in Sarasota FL..... (12+ / 0-)

    ....and I will be with friends this afternoon.  It's a potluck, and the entree is salmon.   Most of us are healthy eaters, so we're not going the turkey and stuffing route, but may make an exception for dessert.  

    Afterwards we'll probably go for a beach walk, because it will be 70 degrees or more this afternoon.  The house we're having dinner at is just a block away from the beach.

    I'm very thankful for my friends here, old and new.  Sarasota felt like home when I first came here in 2004, and it felt like home again when I returned this year.

    Andy

    Keep fightin' for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't you forget to have fun doin' it.--Molly Ivins

    by AAbshier on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:30:38 AM PST

  •  Not cooking. (8+ / 0-)

    Going to the $9.95 Thanksgiving Buffet at the local meat and three.  Then football and blogging. Thankful for the outcome of the election.  Gobble Gobble.

    Abortion Clinics OnLine, the world's first and largest source for online abortion clinic information. Join my DK Abortion Group.

    by annrose on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:30:41 AM PST

    •  Going to Golden Corral here (2+ / 0-)
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      No necessarily because I love going to chain buffet restaurants on big holidays but because not everyone in my family could make it home for Thanksgiving.  I hope to see the rest of my family at Christmas.

      Although I have to admit I do have a Black Friday tradition.  I wake up, I make a hot cup of cocoa, and I pt the iPod in the charging radio deck and play some Steely Dan.

      I probably should have posted a track from Aja though.

    •  We are doing the same, annrose, as we found (1+ / 0-)
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      a similar place in our community and decided to go there as it is family and locally owned.  We might as well give our money to a local business rather than a chain.

      Follow PA Keystone Liberals on Twitter: @KeystoneLibs

      by wishingwell on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 10:04:15 AM PST

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  •  I give thanks for Western-style toilets (13+ / 0-)

    Presently travelling in south-east Asia. Most of our stops along the way are quite acommodating to our western ways. I did make one stop to use the facilities that were, ummm, unpleasant. I will leave it at that.

    We are fortunate to have so much, when so many others live and work in conditions we in North America have difficulty even imagining.

    Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the music!

    by lotac on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:32:44 AM PST

  •  We will have dinner (9+ / 0-)

    at a niece's house with my sis, niece and her husband, my sis' ex-husband and niece's in laws. My daughter and family are with her mother in law who is ill and we are all thankful that she is here and capable of having dinner this year.

    The rest of our family is split apart. The loss of my other niece to cancer last year has sent some in our family into a well of depression that is truly scary and I hope that we can find a way to bring them out of it. It's kinda sad this year.

    "The scientific nature of the ordinary man is to go on out and do the best you can." John Prine

    by high uintas on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:33:16 AM PST

  •  None of that screaming business here. (13+ / 0-)

    Mrs Twigg and I are occupying the sofa, the kids are at their Dad's.

    On the menu, when I can shift myself from a sitting position, is Salmon Mousse followed by Coq-au-Vin ... it's in the fridge, still marinading.

    Personally I would prefer that the kids were here, bitching at the "funny tasting chicken" and generally disturbing the peace.

    Have fun y'all :)

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    by twigg on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:35:31 AM PST

  •  Football is a safe conversation (3+ / 0-)
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    If there is one thing we can agree upon at family gatherings, particularly this one that thanks to Tex Schramm has a built in football game, I can safely talk sports with other members of the family. I try to avoid politics. Mom has asked me to swear off of it entirely at family gatherings. Seeing blood vessels popping out of the neck, eye-balls protruding from their sockets and a nice hue of crimson is not how I need to see certain other members of the family. Not today anyhow. That shiny red button with the letters "Obama" on it can wait. They can mash it down all they want, I will hold my peace.

    Putting on the spectacles of science in expectation of finding an answer to everything looked at signifies inner blindness. -- J(ames) Frank Dobie

    by cactusflinthead on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:37:41 AM PST

  •  Gonna go hiking... (10+ / 0-)

    not much of a holiday kind of guy.

    No one knows what it's like, To be the bad man, To be the sad man, behind blue eyes....

    by blueyedace2 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:38:04 AM PST

  •  I never had to deal with a dysfunctional family (6+ / 0-)

    at holidays, or any other time (though my mom and I certainly did not always get along) but I am very happy to spend the day 1) folding laundry, 2) going to a movie with my sister, and 3) making dinner with her - spaghetti and meatballs.

  •  My wife, and kids, and the fur butts (7+ / 0-)

    and I are sitting around with bed head blinking at the world and watching Ferris Bueller's Day Off at the moment.

    Family, Feast, & Football (and no hocus pocus!) - Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday.

    Picture a bright blue ball just spinnin' spinnin' free. It's dizzy with possibility.

    by lockewasright on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:39:48 AM PST

  •  Up at 4:30 this morning, made stuffing, stuffed an (8+ / 0-)

    18 pound turkey and put it in the oven. Pan dressing goes in later, gravy when the turkey comes out. I don't have any family, so I provide the basics for a pot-luck orphans' picnic at the local Alano club. We'll get about 20 orphans, people with nowhere else to go on Thanksgiving Day. Went out for awhile to enjoy the morning with Sadie, my red queensland. Coffee with Amy Goodman now. Thinking about taking my leftover Obama bumperstickers out and using them to cover Romney bumperstickers while everybody's watching football. I have about 2 dozen.

    I quit school very young, and never learned how to believe things just because I was told to.

    by socalmonk on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:40:00 AM PST

  •  Happy Thanksgiving to you all! (5+ / 0-)

    I heard a cute joke on the radio this morning, and it may not come off well in written form, but here goes anyway.

    The experts tell you to make sure that your turkey is fully cooked before eating, as it could kill you if it's not.  Before you scoff, consider this -- are any of the original pilgrims still alive today?

    LOL - Even better said out loud.  :o)

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    Hugs to ya all!

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    by Terre on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:41:19 AM PST

  •  I'm at home (3+ / 0-)
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    so is the rest of the family.  My wife's cousin and her family are coming from out of town to visit with us.  I'm cooking the traditional menu: turkey, potatoes, stuffing, green bean casserole, cranberry sauce, and pumpkin pie for dessert.

    For at least another hundred years we must pretend to ourselves and to everyone that fair is foul and foul is fair; for foul is useful and fair is not. Avarice and usury and precaution must be our gods for a little longer still. --John Maynard Keynes

    by Kurt from CMH on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:41:40 AM PST

  •  It's going to be a LOOOOONG day. (3+ / 0-)
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    And I can't wait for it to be over.   My final plans today are a darkened room, with few sips of scotch and a bong hit.  

    When the going gets rough, the average go conservative. --Henry Rollins

    by Beelzebud on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:43:11 AM PST

    •  I'm with you. (2+ / 0-)
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      Dragging my family to my mother's, who is a teabagger AND a Mormon.  I wonder all the time how I came out of that family.  I can't wait to be done with this obligation.

      Christmas is way better for us.  We ditch my family, my in-laws, and just stay home in pajamas all day while the kids destroy whatever "Santa" brought them.  

  •  Russian-American couples... (9+ / 0-)

    We're part of a group of (mostly) Democratic men who married (mostly-)former Commies. We're hosting Thanksgiving at our home this year.
    Mother-in-law voted for the first time this year; we're especially thankful for that. (It was nice of Senator Coons to speak at her naturalization ceremony this spring).

    "She's petite, extremely beautiful, and heavily armed." -1995 Michael Moore documentary Canadian Bacon

    by Tom Seaview on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:43:36 AM PST

  •  Spent the last 4 days fixing my M&D's roof. (5+ / 0-)

    Today we eat and give thanks with ~20 family members.  Happy Thanksgiving to all, no matter how you celebrate(or don't).  Biggest conflict will be opening my home made wine while listening to the wine snobs in the family critique and compare to over priced store bought vino.  

    You can't find the right road when the streets are paved. - Bob Marley

    by teknohed on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:43:50 AM PST

  •  I'm Dreading Being Behind Schedule (10+ / 0-)

    I am always a little stressed out this time of year, because I cook the "family dinner."  But normally things are well in hand between the house cleaning that needs to be done and most importantly the massive amount of cooking.  This year I spent Thanksgiving Eve in the emergency room of the VA Hospital with my dad, who had only been released from hospital just two days before.  Ultimately, he was sent home with a drug he should have been sent home with the first time (not that we knew this) but only after 6.5 hours of the full workup all over again.  Adding travel time, , my entire 1/2 day of baking/slicing/dicing and house cleaning prep work before today? Gone, when I add the to and from travel time and the Shanikka fretting time.

    I've been up since 4:30 trying to catch up.  It's improving but guests arrive at 4:00.  Who knows?

    All I know is that I'm glad he's with me, again, this Thanksgiving.  His health is failing with increasing rapidity now, and we've just added congestive heart failure to the dementia diagnosis he received just a few months ago.  I am trying not to cry into my sweet potatoes thinking about the possibility he might not be here next year.

    But as God is my witness, I am so, so Thankful I don't have to worry about that today.

    Happy Thanksgiving to all.

  •  Non-traditional (7+ / 0-)

    Our family will celebrate Thanksgiving tomorrow, Friday, because two of our kids work in the medical field and must go to work today. It's not so bad as we have done this a few years now (Xmas too). Also, because we have vegetarians we will have a turkey and a non-meat entree also (this year mac and cheese) with our usual fare of stuffing, (prepared in and out of turkey), yams, mashed potatoes and gravy, date-nut bread etc etc etc.

    Happy Thanksgiving all and now let's get universal healthcare (best in the world), high speed rail, urban light rail, tax rates similar to the DDE era, voting rights for all (remote native American tribes esp.), Wall street transaction tax, strengthening the EPA, incentives for renewable energy, import taxes on those corporations that have chosen to relocate their HQ outside the U.S., marriage equality, women's rights, FBI investigation of sheriff Joe, organized labor rights, overturn of citizens united, constitutional amendment to grant President Obama a 3rd term, repeal of tax exemption for churches who play politics, normalized relations with Cuba, wealth equality, Dream Act, sanity in defense spending, getting Sarah Palin the GOP nomination in 2016 with Joe Scarborough the VP ...... and so forth

  •  My Republican "Fox 24/7" dad is coming; fun times. (5+ / 0-)

    Fortunately, we do seem to have come to an understanding over the last year or two. If he starts launching into another rant about illegal immigrants, the evils of affirmative action,  or how "regulation" is destroying America, he is invited to leave.

    •  I feel for you (1+ / 0-)
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      I just had the obligatory happy thanksgiving call with my mother, who proceeded to tell me that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim and you could tell by his ring and that FEMA is training armed troops.  

      The best part was when she started telling me all about how Obama's raising my taxes and I should watch out and read up on it.  I'm a tax professor/former tax practitioner for 20 years.   I told her I had a handle on it, told her I loved her and wished her a wonderful thanksgiving.  

      I'm going to go drink now (at a restaurant with family.. not cooking tonight).

  •  I am spending my T'giving (4+ / 0-)

    finding a polite way to feed my crazy uncle who won't stop forwarding all those "Obama's a scary socialist Kenyan Muslim"  to the dog.

    Sorry dog...

    Enagaged activism wins elections. 100 million words on liberal/progressive websites gets beat by one new GOP voter casting their vote.

    by Nebraska68847Dem on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:46:28 AM PST

  •  Two thanksgivings (3+ / 0-)

    I'm going up to visit my father-in-law this afternoon, then I'm driving to my parents' for the rest of the weekend. My mother is making two turkeys, one for today, and one for tomorrow.

    I'll be getting in to my parents probably after midnight after having thanksgiving dinner this afternoon, it's about a 5 hour drive if I don't stop.

    The wolfpack eats venison. The lone wolf eats mice.

    by A Citizen on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:48:31 AM PST

  •  Leg o lamb at my parents (3+ / 0-)

    I'm bringing mash and fenugreek rolls. First Thanksgiving with kid #1 in college, so good to have the family back together.

    Disclaimer: If the above comment can possibly be construed as snark, it probably is.

    by grubber on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:49:20 AM PST

  •  I and staying home (9+ / 0-)

    and eating frozen pizza or maybe just the pumpkin pie I bought yesterday.

    My family is pretty cool, and we're not technically "estranged", but they live two hours away.

    And over the years I've pretty much spent every holiday alone because it never occurred to any of them to include me - not even on the first Thanksgiving after my divorce, when they knew my son and I had nowhere to go.

    When I turned 50 I basically had to (a) remind everyone and ask them to help me celebrate, and then (b) make all of the arrangements after the "dinner and a show" offer in response to my begging became an afternoon walk in a local botanical garden and everyone started bitching about the long drive and not wanting to be on the road after dark.

    One year I sent an e-mail as Thanksgiving approached:  Please someone invite me.

    One of my brothers did.  I had to fly out of state to where he lives.  

    And then this year again I had to reach out to them, and they responded that they were going to SIL's relatives' house.  

    So now I was facing a long drive alone to have dinner with family that, while they aren't cruel or hateful at all, can't seem to figure out how to include me, at a relative stranger's house (I know them but I'm not part of their family), and then drive for a couple of hours home alone trying not to fall asleep from the turkey.

    It's depressing and disheartening.  I'd be doing it because we're "supposed" to be with family on Thanksgiving.  And so they wouldn't think I was whining or having a tantrum.

    But it really didn't seem appealing, so I declined the invitation they offered in response to my reminding them.  I felt too much like an afterthought.

    I had dinner with my son last night.  Today I thought I might do some work in the front yard and enjoy my pumpkin pie.  Maybe that's sad but it's what it is.

    Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek. Barack Obama

    by delphine on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:51:32 AM PST

    •  Same thing happened to us after our parents died (4+ / 0-)
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      my mom had a huge family, tons of cousins, siblings, none ever invite us anywhere for any reason.

      My sister is very good to me but she lives several states away, my mom's family lives right here in PA.

      But we got used to it and instead spend holidays with friends or just each other. It does get depressing.  

      But we finally realized now that our parents are dead, their siblings and cousins could care less about their kids and we accepted that and moved on to appreciating my sister and having our holiday for a month together in July.  

      My hubby and I now appreciate a quiet day going to a restaurant and I bake pies.  But if not for my hubby, I would be depressed and lonely and in the position of begging people to include me.

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      by wishingwell on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 10:12:43 AM PST

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      •  Yeah (1+ / 0-)
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        I only need that one person, who is at this point imaginary.

        Looks a bit like George Clooney, though . . .

        There are a ton of relatives here close to me on my Dad's side of the family.  They are really basically a nuclear unit with a large number of grandkids and their kids.  (We are so fucking old!)

        So their mom's brother's adult kids are too far removed to be invited, although again they are very nice people, if insular.

        But I would be okay with just that one person, even if he just looks like the average guy, with kind eyes.

        :)

        There are a couple of not-imaginary prospects for me to pursue . . .

        Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek. Barack Obama

        by delphine on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 11:55:33 AM PST

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    •  Please! Be with friends if lonely. (2+ / 0-)
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      Friends in your own city or even your own neighborhood can be much more comfortable to spend a holiday with than your own relatives. Consider them family!

      There must be many single mothers in your situation! With the Internet they can find each other - no one needs to feel alone...

      Best wishes to you...

      •  Thanks! (1+ / 0-)
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        Actually my son is now 26 and is off with his friends and cousins on his Dad's side.  

        So not really "single mom" but single and mom.

        I am an extreme introvert so the friends thing has been an issue as well.

        My son made some suggestions last night (after he teased me about being "older than dirt", oh, but I don't look it or act like it . . .)

        Luckily that's our sense of humor so it's was funny.

        about ways to meet people.  He has a small group of really good friends.  

        I'm so proud of the man he's become.  Very kind and thoughtful.  :)

        Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek. Barack Obama

        by delphine on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 11:47:00 AM PST

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  •  Mostly T-day has been good for us (3+ / 0-)

    There was one when I was a teenager, when my mother got angry about something and went upstairs, slammed the door and that was that. Fortunately I pretty much knew what to do to finish making dinner. My five brothers and I together with a few of our friends who were hanging out had an excellent dinner and then we all when to see Time Bandits.

  •  I already had to hide the pumpkin pies. (2+ / 0-)
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    I baked two yeasterday afternoon, and was going to give one to the neighbors, but my wife got into one of them yesterday evening and when I woke up this morning, one of them is half gone already.

    That's just wrong.  (And she has a pretty good figure...it's not like she's a glutton...she just loves desert)

    Oregon: Sure...it's cold. But it's a damp cold.

    by Keith930 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:53:25 AM PST

    •  Or you're just a really good pie-baker. (1+ / 0-)
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      Nice to be appreciated.

      I'm an excellent baker...but my dh had to go gluten-free and though I know a bunch of ways to accommodate that, the food isn't quite the same.

      A weapon that is also a treasure is certain to be used.

      by wonderful world on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:06:43 AM PST

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    •  I baked a cheesecake and 2 pies (0+ / 0-)

      Apple streusel, because that's what everybody likes. No pumpkin, I'm the only one who eats it.

      Made the cheesecake last night, the pies this morning. One will go to my son and his in laws with half the cheesecake. His father in law is sick and in the middle of chemo, my daughter in law is going through chemo as well, and I have a nasty cold, so I'm not going over there.

      I'm making a turkey breast for us, with homemade stuffing, pre-made mashed potatoes and fresh green beans. I'm going to try to rest up so I can go shopping in the morning, but if I don't feel good ill just stay home. I actually enjoy the shopping, the big huge gigantic mall is an hour away and the really serious shoppers go there at midnight, or hit the outlets. Our mall is much smaller and not usually too bad.

      I refuse to go to best buy, toys r us or Walmart, they're just too crazy.

  •  I'm at work (2+ / 0-)
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    Radio doesn't run itself -- well, it will after 1:15, when I'm going for dinner with my best friend from high school and his wife.  Their daughter is doing the cooking.  I'm taking along some wine I made: shiraz, apple, and elderberry.  Have to be back here at 5am tomorrow.

    The good thing is that being here without the phone ringing is almost as good as a day off.

  •  Today (Tgiving) will be low key for us. (2+ / 0-)
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    I have to work tonight (go in at 6 PM) and the folks who we usually share our Tgiving with also have to work today. Sad in a way.

    But, we're doing our big dinner on Saturday. For us, it's the company, the food, and the companionship of our friends so it doesn't matter really if we do it on one particular day -- Thursday -- or wait until Saturday.

    So, today will be relaxed, watch some football, and lounge/nap on the couch, hoping to shed the last remnants of the chest cold my wife and I are sharing. Marriage is about sharing, isn't it?

    I've worked holidays before in prior careers but this one will be different; I'm working seasonally in a retail big box chain book/video store. I have no idea what kind of folks are out shopping on Thanksgiving night but I guess I'll find out, eh?

    Kool-Aid, man, Kool-Aid's the stuff to drink ... For fellows whom it hurts to think. (with apologies to AE Housman)

    by wheeldog on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:56:31 AM PST

  •  At home with woozles & husband, who are all (3+ / 0-)
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    sniffing and snuffling around the stove, and getting underfoot while I try to cook.  Also trying to do chores that I neglect because I spend so much time on Dkos, griping about repugs and checking out what everybody else here is up to.  Well, there goes the time slot I had reserved for scouring the bathtub.  Guess I'll have to put that off 'til Dec. 25th.

  •  Hanging out (2+ / 0-)
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    Taking the newly haircutted Goldendoodle (who now looks like a deranged white lion) out for a hike while the husband takes the 14 year old for a driving lesson in the empty mall parking lot. Making cubed butternut squash with crumbled blue cheese topping to take to a friends house later, listening to Alice's Restaurant at noon (tradition) watching the Lions lose (tradition). Pretty mellow, and very grateful.

    I'm pretty tired of being told what I care about.

    by hulibow on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:01:07 AM PST

  •  big traditional thanksgiving dinner for us (4+ / 0-)

    21 at dinner. vegan me looking forward to my special vege stuffing, and this year, chilled spaghetti squash, chick peas and green pea salad. most of my relatives are wingnuts, so no politics..except for me leaving my iPad open to Mybarakobama.com. heh heh

    Victory is sweet-November 6, 2012

    by al23 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:01:30 AM PST

  •  Not big on holidays (2+ / 0-)
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    We went out for a nice walk.  Gonna eat out later; Indian.  Might try and catch a movie.

    One of our regular walking places for weekdays can be busy on weekends.  With limited parking, you have to wait in line for a parking space sometimes.  Today was as bad as I've ever seen it.  Downright mobbed.  We went to a less popular, but entirely adequate, location instead.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!", but "That's funny..." (Isaac Asimov)

    by Land of Enchantment on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:02:48 AM PST

  •  Just us 2 (2+ / 0-)
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    Daughter is off cooking her first ever solo Thanksgiving for new fiance and his roommate.

    I wouldn't be cooking a t-bird at all if my DH didn't feel that it wouldn't be t-day without one. I would have preferred steak or a nice lasagne. Also made my no-cook cran-orange sauce which I like just as much as the old 'store-boughten' kind w/o the corn syrup.

    Here's the new version of the old N. Rockwell painting:

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    A weapon that is also a treasure is certain to be used.

    by wonderful world on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:03:22 AM PST

  •  I've got one of those crazy uncles! (1+ / 0-)
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    I've also got two sisters with entitlement mentalities. They waste their money on crap, and are on every government program there is. Try to help them out, and you can never do enough. Between my uncle and my sisters, the stereotypes of both ends of the political spectrum are represented. I haven't got a clue what anyone of them do on holidays.

  •  Thanksgiving 1987 (5+ / 0-)

    Great Uncle's kitchen island counter.  The counter top was not fixed to the cabinet for some idiotic reason.  Not knowing this, bored nine-year-old decides to hoist himself up onto the counter where all the dishes and food are sitting, 15 minutes prior to the feast.

    Luckily, I noticed in time that the whole thing was about to go sliding onto the floor and jumped off JUST in time.

  •  I'm fulfilling a prophecy. (6+ / 0-)

    I don't cook and I don't care.  When I was 5 y.o. I told both of my parents that when I grew up I would marry a man who cooked for me!  They both laughed.  Well, we aren't married yet but my wonderfully nuturing boyfriend is making a full-on turkey meal with all the trappings.  He is doing this willingly and joyfully.  Family and friends are invited.  Yes.  I am blessed!

    "The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." - Flannery O'Conner

    by Dixiedemocrat on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:10:05 AM PST

  •  It's your own fault, Mom. (6+ / 0-)
    Defending yourself against your mother's complaints that you don't visit enough?
    From the time my children were very young, I shared with them my observation of family life that if I reared them correctly, to think, strive and live independently and successfully and to become part of the larger community, then they would go away and leave me. If I screwed it up, I'd never get rid of them.

    I love my two adult kids and they love me, but the closest of them is 977 miles away this Thanksgiving. The other, 1737 miles. Each is a self sufficient, independent and hard working contributor to their respective communities.  

    On this ostensible day of thanks, I am thankful that the voters kept the country on the more progressive path so that my daughters will have  better opportunities to strive, thrive and not merely survive.  

    Aren't you glad that the clueless won't get a chance to run the country again, just yet? Yeah. Me too.

    by LeftOfYou on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:12:45 AM PST

  •  Same way I spend it every year (1+ / 0-)
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    Having football be interrupted by a meal.

    To be a Republican, you have to believe that our economic problems are caused by the poor having too much money and the rich not having enough.

    by Tommy Jones the Band on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:13:55 AM PST

  •  Wondering who my (3+ / 0-)

    starting quarterback will be.

    And not wondering who my President will be!

    I'm really, truly, sincerely, unbelievably happy that we have President Obama and not President Romney. And while I'm deeply disappointed that the Dems didn't regain control of the House and avert another 4 years of Congressional gridlock, I hope that in his second term, the President will use not only the bully pulpit, but the Executive Order and the signing statement, to move the country forward.

    Oh, and I'm so enjoying not having Mitt's face on my TV to spoil my appetite on Thanksgiving!

    I'm a Democrat - I believe that government has a positive role to play in the lives of ordinary people.

    by 1BQ on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:15:56 AM PST

  •  Happy Thanksgiving! (2+ / 0-)
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    "This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around..."

    by cgvjelly on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:17:18 AM PST

  •  With wife & inlaws (0+ / 0-)

    and trying not to let my depression spoil the day for everyone else.  

  •  Hosting my Irish cousin. (0+ / 0-)

    This is his first Thanksging.

  •  Globalized Thanksgiving 2012 (2+ / 0-)
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    I'm spending this holiday 1,500 miles from home, thanks to my global corporate employer which (not "who", not a person!) decided to outsource my job from the US in order to find a better tax credit in Canada. Haven't been home for more than 2 days in the last 4 months.

    But I am thankful. I have it better than many. Though I cannot be with my family on Thanksgiving, I can at least provide for them and make sure my 5 year old daughter has security and food on this holiday, and some of my wife's family with her, and I can Skype in to them later on.

    Also thankful to be working for a friend who is taking half the day off to celebrate US Thanksgiving with me up here in Canada. We're putting a turkey on the smoker grill, and I'm making andouille and shrimp cornbread stuffing.

    Every day I also give thanks for this community and the inspiration Dkos provides to help many of us through some dark times.

    So thank you all!

  •  More or less traditional family dinner (1+ / 0-)
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    One son back from college, father and S.O. from his old folks home, wife and other son.

    Turkey, -stuffing- forcemeat, giblet gravy, sweet potato's and apple, brussel's sprouts and corn, with tiger bread, stollen and chocolate chip cookies.

    Then an evening digesting with old movies on the DVD (or maybe a Harold and Kumar one)

  •  Alices restaurant video and a turkey sub... (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Totally off the subject (3+ / 0-)
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    When I was a kid, the lake behind my Grandma's House was frozen over by Thanksgiving

    We used to go ice skating

    I'm sitting infront of it now, in a t-shirt. Its 65 degrees.

  •  Going to dinner at Mom's assisted-living home (1+ / 0-)
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    while the spouse is driving back from San Francisco our lovely and patient older daughter. They went out to Alcatraz this morning for the annual Native American sunrise ceremony and blessing.

    We gave our lovely and lively younger daughter leave to have dinner with her boyfriend's family today. She's babysitting tomorrow for some crazed Black-Friday fan, so we'll gather our family together for Turkey Dinner on Saturday.

    Gotta hang loose in this day and age... and be grateful.

    I may watch a few Broadway show casts lip-sync their way through a number on the street in NYC. But I will definitely be taping the National Woozle Show on NBC today for our later viewing enjoyment.

    Have you noticed?
    Politicians who promise LESS government
    only deliver BAD government.

    by jjohnjj on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:35:50 AM PST

  •  Being thankful for (1+ / 0-)
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    #OccupySandy and #strikedebt.

    Drop a dime in the bucket:

    occupysandy: http://interoccupy.net/...

    strikedebt/jubilee:

    http://rollingjubilee.org/

    "To recognize error, to cut losses, to alter course, is the most repugnant option in government." Historian Barbara Tuchman

    by Publius2008 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:36:28 AM PST

  •  Possible triggers here... (0+ / 0-)

    Much better over the last 16 years or so...once I moved 1200 miles away things drastically improved.

    My mom and I spent most (all) holidays at my stepdad's parents' house. It was a nightmare. If his dad were alive now it would be non-stop Faux news, but he died in the early 90's...

    When I was between the ages of 5 and 14 it was particularly brutal. Stepdad's dad was a drunk and would get belligerent every holiday (shot and a beer!) and my stepdad would get drunk to cope. Then of course it would be a battle as to who was driving home (my stepdad always drove, no matter what) and then they would usually have some sort of physical altercation in the car and once we got home.

    Unfortunately my mother, for whatever reason, didn't stand up to the situation until I was a teenager when we finally started driving across town to the gatherings separately from him.

    Once I reached college age I pretty much stopped going over, but then of course I missed out on my stepdad pulling a knife on his father one holiday (can't remember which one). Yeah, good times!

    So today my husband and I enjoy our sunny Florida holidays far, far away...and we love every minute of it!

    "And I'm talkin' in the fan, Orange Crush is in my hand, with the Star Telegram."--The Reivers

    by malibu1964 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:36:34 AM PST

  •  Yard cleanup for the most part so far. (0+ / 0-)

    I'd raked a few days back, so this morning I was hauling many barrels of leaves back to the compost.  Way my big tree out front is holding on to leaves, I'll have to rake 1-2 more times, probably haul another 8-10 barrels or so around before the snows hit.

    No really bad Thanksgivings that I can recall, just the general boredom of youth with visiting older relatives when I was younger.

  •  Holiday for who? (1+ / 0-)
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    Some of us work this day, and would actually love to have the opportunity to have a (paid) day off and argue with our relatives rather than work. :D

    But I gotta say one of the most frightening experiences I had was a few years ago, when I did actually have Thanksgiving off but had just developed my food allergies. Husband and I went to his sister's for the big day and discovered then and there that no one had told her about my allergies. Scared me to death that I'd end up dying because no one mentioned ... to the COOK ... that I couldn't eat a few things.

    Nowadays, the husband's starting on our pies. Gluten-free vanilla scone mix is going to be our crust, then pumpkin and kabocha squash for a filler. There will be pictures. Be afraid. Be very afraid!

  •  I've been lucky.... (1+ / 0-)
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    For the last thirty-five years I've enjoyed a wonderful Thanksgiving with the same group of friends.  We all cook, some more daringly than others, and before sitting down to eat we stand around in a circle and say a few words about what we're particularly thankful for.  Always sincere, sometimes funny, and a tangible reaffirmation of our long-lasting friendship.  

    This year, sadly, we'll all be fighting back tears as a good friend has just passed away, but we'll all be mindful, I'm sure, that our lasting friendship is one of the many things for which we're all profoundly thankful.

    As for the banquet itself, and the excesses to which it tempts us, it's always fabulous!  One of the star attractions, which made it's debut many years ago and was such a big hit it became a perennial addition to the feast:  Curried Bananas.  No, seriously, it's true!  and they're delicious (if you're into curry, of course...).

    I myself have taken the yummy prize on a couple of occasions, once with pumpkin pecan tamales, then more recently with a corn and mushroom custard pie.  This year:  Pumpkin black bean lasagna.  I'll be in contention, I'm sure!

    Warmest best wishes to all....

    Sancho

    Hoppin’ an’ boppin’ to the crocodile rock…..

    Liberal = We're all in this together
    Conservative = Every man for himself
    Who you gonna call?

  •  Cooking traditional turkey dinner (2+ / 0-)
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    for my friend who is in the middle of treatment series 5 of six for cancer.  She's at that "if I don't get an infection, all will be well" stage so she is in relative quarantine this week at my home.

    In our new way of surviving, her husband is working in the fracking fields of ND hundreds of miles from here, her older kids are spread from here to there but not close to here, and her two younger children are with their respective dads for the holidays.

    Crazy new world.

    The good news in all this is Obamacare.  Her cancer wasnt' discovered until a month after they married last June so his insurance had to and is covering her treatment.  Whew!

    I am thankful for just about everything this year.

    Especially, the new Salt Lake City Kossacks group that is planning our first meet up next weekend.

    Peace and love to all
    WOE

    It's difficult to be happy knowing so many suffer. We must unite.

    by War on Error on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:55:12 AM PST

  •  In Bodega Bay (1+ / 0-)
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    Celebrating with Dad, daughter, hubby and daughters friend.  In bodega bay.  Our son could not make it home, he is a Marine, we are missing him so much right now.  

    Cooking turkey later today, high heat best way to cook the turkey, all of the side dishes were made ahead of time and just need to be warmed while the turkey cools down.

    Life is good, we are blessed and I tha k god every day for all of the blessings in our lives, including daily kos.

  •  Just my wife and I, and I'm cooking. (1+ / 0-)
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    There's no huge family get-together this year, and for that
    I'm thankful!

    First, though, some coffee and a newspaper, some quiet time for me. Then a good jog. There'll be the remnants of the annual "Turkey Trot" 5K here in Long Beach, CA, as I begin my jog. I look forward to seeing them along the bike path here on the beach.

    "There's a lot to be said for making people laugh. Did you know that that's all some people have? It isn't much, but it's better than nothing in this cockeyed caravan." --Joel McCrea as "Sully," in "Sullivan's Travels."

    by Wildthumb on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 10:00:49 AM PST

  •  On Watch (2+ / 0-)
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    Spending the first half of my day at work on the watch along thousands of other Soldiers, Marines, Sailors and Airmen for whom today is just another day.  We sit and wait just in case.  On days like this we dont do it for the country or because its our job, we do it so that as many of our comrades as possible can have a worry free day.  Go have a beer and relax, we got this.

    Then when my shift is done I will join my family and the family of one of the guys I was in Afghanistan with.  We will relax, have a beer knowing that someone else is watching.  Just in case.

    It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

    by ksuwildkat on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 10:09:41 AM PST

  •  Hubby, daughter home from school, son and me. (0+ / 0-)

    We're heading to our favorite old Wisconsin "supper club," which is just perfect for a holiday dinner out.  

    Then we're planning to go see "Lincoln."  

    Happy Thanksgiving to all!

    If the plutocrats begin the program, we will end it. -- Eugene Debs.

    by livjack on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 10:10:29 AM PST

  •  Happily, I don't have dread or a bad memory (2+ / 0-)
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    dinazina, Cali Scribe

    I'm one of those fortunate people who grew up in a happy family with two caring parents, a brother I'm still close to, and a mother who was the best cook on earth. No unhappy memories. No unfortunate family members, primary or extended. Nothing but love and fabulous eats.

    My mom and dad passed away 7 years ago, 7 weeks apart. It still seems like yesterday. I'm still close to my brother and grateful for the connection we have. We live in different states, but we'll remember Mom & Dad when we talk today on the phone, as we do every Thanksgiving, Christmas, and anniversaries of their passing.

    I hope each and every one of you is blessed today with similar warm Thanksgiving thoughts and memories. Love and best wishes to all my fellow Kossacks.

    "It's the Supreme Court, Stupid!"

    by Kestrel on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 10:15:47 AM PST

    •  Does the Guiness Book of World Records (1+ / 0-)
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      or Ripley's "Believe it or Not" know about you?

    •  Still relatively close to my siblings (1+ / 0-)
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      even though I don't see them that often -- my oldest sister has done yeoman's work keeping us together after my mom died 7 years ago, with emails and the like. We've never had any of the major feuds that I've heard about in other families, not even when it came to splitting up Mom's estate; the money was divided evenly 4 ways in accordance with the living trust, and we pretty much chose whatever we wanted before donating most of her stuff to charity (the item I really wanted the most was my mom's Mexican nativity set; she had one really nice pair of pearl/diamond earrings but I let my sister-in-law have those).

      "If we ever needed to vote we sure do need to vote now" -- Rev. William Barber, NAACP

      by Cali Scribe on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 11:34:03 AM PST

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  •  My worst came in the wake of tragedy. (2+ / 0-)
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    Mr Robert, 207wickedgood

    My sister-in-law had died two weeks earlier, following brain surgery.  She had just delivered a baby boy which she got to hold in her arms for a day before going under the knife.  She never regained consciousness, and was declared brain-dead after a week.

    The events left us emotionally drained and not-very-thankful.

    We made a big dinner anyway -- even though it was just the four of us (our youngest daughter hadn't yet been born).

    When the turkey was done, we placed it on a rolling cart we have with a butcher block cart.  As I began to carve, something slipped and the turkey went straight onto the floor.  

    My first reaction was a sort of, "that figures", as if the Bad Things Beast had settled permanently in our house.  Then somebody -- maybe even me -- said, simply, "It flew!"

    You couldn't help but laugh.  There we were, staring down at this stupid dead bird on the floor as if nothing in the world could be any worse.

    It flew.
    We laughed.
    The mood broke.

    The worst Thanksgiving was transformed to one of the best as we rescued the turkey we could and told stories over dinner.

    We have sad Thanksgivings since -- my father in law died two weeks before last Thanksgiving last year -- but sad and bad are not the same thing.  There seems always to be some reason for thanks.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 10:21:07 AM PST

  •  I just met our Garbage Truck, tipped the driver (1+ / 0-)
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    Mr Robert

    “The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” ~ John Kenneth Galbraith

    by Lefty Coaster on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 10:31:45 AM PST

  •  Seeing an all-male production of Pirates of (1+ / 0-)
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    207wickedgood

    Penzance at the Sydney Theatre Company, before saying goodbye once again to Australia and heading back to Bangkok!!  God was it funny.  I thought my ribs would break from laughing!!

    Those who dwell among the beauty and mysteries of the earth are never alone or weary of life. ~Rachel Carson

    by Norwegian Chef on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 10:33:53 AM PST

  •  I'm wondering if late-term abortion includes up (1+ / 0-)
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    Mr Robert

    to age 44. I called my son about 10:30 to let him know I was running a little late. I told him last night that I'd take the turkey out about 1:00 pm. When I called him this morning, he said, "Oh, I was thinking of calling you to find out what time you'd be ready," (apparently he didn't pay any attention to what I said last night) "but, I wasn't sure if you'd be up yet."  So much for him being thankful for what I do to put Thanksgiving dinner on the table for him.

    My husband is helping me. How? Well, I got the pumpkin pie a little dark in one spot, so I asked him if he'd hurry and eat that slice before anyone else saw it, and he was happy to help.

    Every year I swear this is the last time I'm doing this.

    “Social Security has nothing to do with balancing a budget or erasing or lowering the deficit.” -- Ronald Reagan, 1984 debate with Walter Mondale

    by RJDixon74135 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 10:39:20 AM PST

  •  I cooked a turkey for the first time in 40 years (2+ / 0-)
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    Mr Robert, Cali Scribe

    for the senior folks in my building who no longer have families or whose families are far away. I won the turkey (16 pounds) so I thought I'd share it in the social room.

    My daughters still go to Boston for thanksgiving at their grandmother's house, my former mother-in-law, a long standing family tradition.

    Since it's almost time to go downstairs I'd like to wish all the folks here a wonderful Thanksgiving. Sharing gives back more than it takes, by a long shot.

  •  I have memories of many (0+ / 0-)

    happy Thanksgivings spent with family and friends, but this time I'm "home alone". Nevertheless, I'll be roasting a smallish turkey breast and making a cornbread dressing, etc.

    So there will definitely be lots of leftover turkey breast for sandwiches over the next few days but that suits me just fine.

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

    The only trouble with retirement is...I never get a day off!

    by Mr Robert on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 11:25:32 AM PST

  •  I went to the nursing home (1+ / 0-)
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    CrissieP

    to feed my mother her pureed Thanksgiving dinner.  The sight of that was enough to kill my appetite, but she enjoyed it.  I'd like to give thanks here for the staff who is working today at her nursing home.  One aide, a young mother,  said "they are like family and I am happy to spend time with them."

    Later I went to my son's house to feed his cats and keep the new kitten company for awhile.  Pretty soon I'll start our Thanksgiving dinner - just Mr. mrn and me today.  We're having stuffing, mashed potatoes, butternut squash, gravy, rolls, peas and cranberry relish.  I thought about getting a small package of turkey, but it just didn't sound good, so it will be a meatless dinner, not counting the gravy.  Mr. mrn will be watching the Lions lose, a Thanksgiving tradition, and then we'll get started hauling out the Christmas decorations.  

    Happy Thanksgiving to all.

    myrealname

    •  They're actually playing pretty well (1+ / 0-)
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      so far against the Texans -- I've got it on the radio while my spouse is getting dressed. Some traditions are meant to be broken occasionally. ;-)

      "If we ever needed to vote we sure do need to vote now" -- Rev. William Barber, NAACP

      by Cali Scribe on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 11:35:32 AM PST

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  •  I actually have a relatively (0+ / 0-)

    sane family, politically speaking, even the Republicans. I'm sure a few of them voted for Obama back in 2008. Don't usually talk much politics though -- mostly just family stuff and sports. Then there's the traditional post-dinner walk which I'll probably skip since I turned my ankle slightly yesterday and it's still a bit on the sore side.

    We'll have anywhere from 15 to 25 at my sister's, depending who's in town or which of the younger set bring dates (my oldest great-niece, home from college for the weekend, is inviting a high-school friend, "Ricky" -- if Ricky is male, I'll be keeping close tabs on the situation as I'm not all that eager to be a great-great aunt before I'm 60). My brother-in-law does the turkey on the Weber grill (actually borrows one from my other sister for double-barreled turkey action), my sister does the potatoes since those don't travel well, and everyone else brings the fixings (I always get assigned wine -- easy but boring.) Dessert is pumpkin pie, apple pie and a crustless pumpkin custard for those with gluten sensitivities (like my sister-in-law).

    I'm always careful not to stuff myself, so I'll probably have a light dinner, maybe just a cup of soup and some cottage cheese or yogurt.

    "If we ever needed to vote we sure do need to vote now" -- Rev. William Barber, NAACP

    by Cali Scribe on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 11:29:51 AM PST

  •  Watching this again (0+ / 0-)

    Dulce bellum inexpertis [War is sweet only to those who have no experience of it].

    by Fatherflot on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 11:38:49 AM PST

  •  i'm doing my traditional t-giving dinner: (1+ / 0-)
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    someone else takes me to an upscale restaurant and i order the poached salmon and have chocolate mousse laced with cointreau for dessert.

    November 6, 2012: United citizens = 1, Citizens United = 0 (-9.75 / -9.05)

    by doesnotworkorplaywellwithothers on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 11:57:58 AM PST

  •  the four freedoms (0+ / 0-)

    That painting is one Norman Rockwell's Four Freedoms, The Freedom From Want. I keep thinking of a Republican version - the freedom to starve, the freedom to die of disease untreated, the freedom to be censored and so on. Norman Rockwell could be a bit sentimental, but we live in a sentimental world and, as George Orwell used to put it, his sentiments were true. It's easy to think of Rockwell as some kind of retro icon, but if you study his work, you'll see he was not only sentimentally American, but also a true liberal. We need more of that combination today. We are the true Americans.

    I've been blessed with Thanksgivings. We always have friends and family. For years we'd head down to NYC and do a restaurant Thanksgiving with friends from NY, LA and Pittsburgh. The city website has a list of Thanksgiving restaurants, or, I suppose, nowadays you could call 311. We chose Larry Forgione's American Place for years because they had entrees besides turkey, but when push came to shove, we all ordered turkey. We went to Verbana when they did amazing things with herbs, and we had a Greek Thanksgiving at Molyvos.

    Now we alternate with friends, but this year we had to shuffle the schedule, so we're doing it our friend's house instead. It's just as well. Our kitchen is unusable as our painter has run far into overtime. My parents always said that a family is something you create, not something you find or are given. As a child, that seemed odd, as I was given a family, but as an adult I realize they were right. One creates family and one creates tradition. Too many people take it for granted.

    Thanksgiving is a lot like Passover, a time to contemplate what we have and where we are going. It is one of the few contemplative holidays we have left, aside from Memorial Day. We're heading off in a few hours and expect to get drunk on turkey and see friends we spend too little time with. We hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving as we hope to.

  •  fear and loathing in Casper Wy. (0+ / 0-)

       My daughter, her husband and children are visiting from out of town. We live in the same town, Casper, with her in-laws.  They are having dinner with his parents today and with us tomorrow. We always have the holiday a day early or late. They refuse to.
        My son-in-law's father is a Republican. It's Wyoming, that's a given.  He is also a self rightous, born again, old Testament patriarch wannabe, and he takes his responsibilities seriously.  
        I don't know what he did or said. I was making a quick trip to the grocery, but my husband said that she called from a gas station where she was sitting in her car because she had to get away from her father in law before she said something irreversable.  That's a new record even for him. He made her cry before ten o:clock in the morning. He doesn't usually manage that till significantly later in the afternoon.
        So today I'm thankful that I had great inlaws and that I don't have to spend holidays with hers.

  •  I am by my wife's hospital bed (0+ / 0-)

    And keeping my head up by reading these&other insightful and funny comments from the community

    Thank you Kossacks.

    An empty head is not really empty; it is stuffed with rubbish. Hence the difficulty of forcing anything into an empty head. -- Eric Hoffer

    by MichiganChet on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 02:32:07 PM PST

  •  my mom, my dog, my bird and and empty chair (0+ / 0-)

    for my late spouse. I've never had a memorable Thanksgiving. All the ones with extended family were a kind of mandatory fun event, although I did like my cousins for the most part, aunts and uncles were another matter: uncle was a RW post commander of the American Legion

    yksitoista ulotteinen presidentin shakki. / tappaa kaikki natsit "Nous sommes un groupuscule" (-9.50; -7.03) 政治委员, 政委‽ Warning - some snark above ‽

    by annieli on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 02:39:58 PM PST

  •  Giving thanks (0+ / 0-)

    I spent last night finishing up the framework for a project that now exists thanks to the voters in California passing Proposition 30. The additional funds now available to my employer allows the reinstatement of a winter session of classes as well as eliminating any staff layoffs. I am thankful!

    Awoke this morning to a squirrel climbing my back door demanding peanuts. Sat and hand fed him while watching hummingbirds feed as I ate my oatmeal. A good start for the day. In a few minutes I will be walking up a flight of stairs to enjoy chili, corn bread, pie and company with close neighbors and friends.

    Life be good. I am thankful.

    Happy Thanksgiving to you all!

    I like it when a flower or a little tuft of grass grows through a crack in the sidewalk. It's so fuckin' heroic. - Saint George Carlin

    by mzinformed on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 06:00:03 PM PST

  •  Without (0+ / 0-)

    a holiday. They don't celebrate it here in Germany.

    Karen in Bischofswiesen

    If it weren't difficult, it wouldn't be an achievement.

    by Wife of Bath on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 01:17:31 PM PST

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