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Chuck Hagel is being considered why, now?
It looks like Chuck Hagel's team is preparing to mount a counter-attack against all the people who are muttering about what a dismal choice he'd be for secretary of defense. Ironically, most of the pushback against Hagel is coming from the Republican side of the aisle, with the Weekly Standard pushing the notion that he might be an anti-Semite and the Washington Post op-ed page grumbling that he is "well to the left" of the crazy leftist Barack Obama. So that's where the pushback-pushback is also directed:
"Those misrepresenting Senator Hagel's positions on this are in the gutter," said Andrew Parasiliti, who was Hagel's foreign policy advisor from 2001-2005 and is now editor of Al-Monitor. "That he is anti-Israel is complete nonsense, not at all supported by his record. He knows the issues and the players there as well as anyone in Washington.  Those tossing around these accusations can't hold a candle to his record of service and expertise on national security."

Hagel supporters have also begun to circulate a memo called "Facts on Chuck Hagel," which is meant to rebut, among other things, the charge Hagel is not supportive enough of Israel because he has declined to sign several letters supported by some pro-Israel groups and because he once referred to the pro-Israel lobby as the "Jewish lobby."

Prominently quoted is Bush defense official Richard Armitage. Now, I personally think being endorsed by any Bush era defense official ought to be considered a veto right there, when talking about running the department of blowing stuff up, but as we've seen it's impossible to screw anything up so badly as to diminish your credibility among the Washington crowd, so here we are.

If any of this is dissuading the White House, they haven't shown it. Press Secretary Jay Carney was a bit snippy at reporters asking about Hagel:

"Sen. Hagel fought and bled for his country," Carney told reporters Thursday. "He served his country well."
So have a great many people, unfortunately. So why is Hagel in particular being considered, other than because he apparently wants the job? I couldn't begin to tell you. He's not well liked among Republicans, and Democrats are baffled at the continuing bizarre fixation, in Democratic administrations, with putting a Republican in the position. On, and he was a strong supporter of the ban against gay members of the military, and even against gay Americans holding positions as U.S. Ambassadors because being openly gay wouldn't properly "represent America." No, really.

So why's he on the short list? Is the knowledge that nobody actually wants him for the job considered, somehow, "bipartisan"?

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  •  i don't get it (5+ / 0-)

    why, of all positions, would you use a republican at defense.  for the first time in my life this is not a losing issue for democrats.  is the idea to give that advantage right back?

    •  Giving cabinet positions to Republicans (4+ / 0-)

      is like preparing a nice warm nest in your house for a colony of termites.

      Obama should treat the idea of nominating a GOOPer to anything the same way every single piece of his program and/or legislation was treated by the Tea Party/GOP controlled House.  

      I'm not sixty-two—I'm fifty-twelve!

      by Pragmatus on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:10:24 PM PST

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      •  NEWS JUST IN (1+ / 0-)
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        GOP has cancelled the vote for "Plan B" (a.k.a. "Plan 9 From Outer Space") because Boehner can't marshal enough votes to pass it, his very own proposal.

        Paul Krugman was right--as soon as Obama shows a little concessionary spirit, the GOP goes immmediately on the attack again and demands more.

        So off the cliff we go!

        I'm not sixty-two—I'm fifty-twelve!

        by Pragmatus on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:19:55 PM PST

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    •  I think PBO was trying to get a readily (1+ / 0-)
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      confirmable SoD who was not knee-jerk averse to cuts and who knew the DD budget well.  But he continues to underestimate the R's total dedication to resisting him wherever and whenever possible even if means throwing one of their own under the bus.

  •  If only Obama was a Democrat (6+ / 0-)


    Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough. - Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by number six on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:03:05 PM PST

  •  Rest assured, no matter what the explanation, (7+ / 0-)

    it is all part of Obama's brilliant plan.

    Without question, no matter what he does, it is always, always brilliantly thought out in advance.

  •  AIPAC and the neocons hate him (5+ / 0-)

    He's not sufficiently pro-Israel or anti-Iran.

    Those who do not move, do not notice their chains. Rosa Luxemburg

    by chuckvw on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:05:36 PM PST

    •  He's not sufficiently Pro-Likud. They have no use (6+ / 0-)

      for anyone who is Pro-Israel.

      "Furthermore, if you think this would be the very very last cut ever if we let it happen, you are a very confused little rabbit." cai

      by JesseCW on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:16:44 PM PST

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    •  Hagel's great heresy, (3+ / 0-)
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      for the bomb-Iran crowd, was this:

      "I’m a United States Senator, not an Israeli Senator,” Mr. Hagel told retired U.S. diplomat Aaron David Miller in 2006. “I’m a United States Senator. I support Israel. But my first interest is I take an oath of office to the Constitution of the United States. Not to a president. Not a party. Not to Israel. If I go run for Senate in Israel, I’ll do that."
      Which was not only true, but also right.

      American Likudniks who raised money and voted for Romney should not have a veto over ANY Obama nomination.

      After all, their bomb-Iran guy lost the election.

      A public option for health insurance is a national priority.

      by devtob on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 06:19:44 PM PST

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      •  Uh, Obama may be a "bomb Iran" guy (1+ / 0-)
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        as is the entire Democratic party. Remember this, from the Democratic Party Platform, on Iran?

        President Obama believes that a diplomatic outcome remains the best and most enduring solution. At the same time, he has also made clear that the window for diplomacy will not remain open indefinitely and that all options—including military force—remain on the table.

        The Republicans didn't have anything like this explicit threat of war in THEIR platform.

        •  All options are (1+ / 0-)
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          always on the table for the most powerful military in history.

          But Obama has, so far, resisted the pressure from the Likudniks to bomb Iran, or support Israel bombing Iran.

          As well he should -- there is no popular support for another war in southwest Asia.

          A public option for health insurance is a national priority.

          by devtob on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:31:00 PM PST

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    •  Which is why I'm for him (4+ / 0-)

      Let all the Bush tax cuts expire

      by Paleo on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 06:24:42 PM PST

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    •  I'm not an AIPAC member and I'm not a neocon (0+ / 0-)

      even though I'm strongly pro-Israel. And even I think Hagel is a terrible choice.

      •  So do I. But not because he called on Israel (1+ / 0-)
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        as well as Hezbollah to stop killing civilians in 2006.

        That's one of the few things I like about the guy.

        He can see obvious moral equivalencies.

        "Furthermore, if you think this would be the very very last cut ever if we let it happen, you are a very confused little rabbit." cai

        by JesseCW on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 10:59:37 PM PST

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  •  signed. nt (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Kerry (2+ / 0-)
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    hester, Wes Clark Democrat

    should go to Defense, in my opinion, not State.

  •  How many petitions do we need to sign in (8+ / 0-)

    order to get a Democratic president to act like a Democrat?

  •  I want a Democrat as Sec. of Defense (10+ / 0-)

    But if the war-mongering neocon nutjobs (who lied us into Iraq) don't like Hagel, that makes him a little more likable to me.

    Chicago--Proud Home of the 1907-08 World Series Champion Chicago Cubs

    by Jeff Y on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:06:41 PM PST

    •  Just what this country needs, a crook (1+ / 0-)
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      for Sec. of Defense. He must be drooling at the chance of getting his mitts on almost a trillion dollar budget.  When running for Senate from Nebraska he conveniently forgot to state he owned the voting machine company (ES&E) and miraculously won election by wide margins unexpectedly, including ninety-eight percent of the African American vote and as he said to Thom Hartmann "if you want to win an election just control the voting machines".  Just another investment banker w/suspect values in charge of things and a free hand at the vault.  

  •  Assuming Hagel isn't cannon Fodder (2+ / 0-)

    for a real pick...

    The 1st Amendment gives you the right to say stupid things, the 1st Amendment doesn't guarantee a paycheck to say stupid things.

    by JML9999 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:07:50 PM PST

  •  Blech. NO Republicans in our cabinet (4+ / 0-)
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    and certainly not at it's tippy-top!  

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:12:55 PM PST

  •  Susan Rice's friends mount strong defense (5+ / 0-)
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    commonmass, whizdom, devtob, Glenn45, tb mare

    Oh wait...I never saw that headline.

    Funny how Republicans get protection during the nomination process.   Susan Rice....meh not so much.

    "Small Businesses Don't Build Levees" - Melissa Harris Perry

    by justmy2 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:14:50 PM PST

  •  Just a month from the election.... (1+ / 0-)
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    and Obama once again proves himself a phony pony, what with this and the SS debacle.

    His Univision comments, regarding his moderate republican policies, at least shows that he's self aware.

    Be of good comfort, Master Ridley, and play the man; we shall this day light such a candle by God's grace in England as shall never be put out.

    by Bollox Ref on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:16:50 PM PST

  •  The problem isn't the "R" next to his name. (2+ / 0-)
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    Pragmatus, tb mare

    It's the baggage he's carrying.

    The dude was either so fucking stupid he fell for Aluminium Tubes or so eager to kill some Iraqi kids that he didn't give a shit what the truth was.

    Either way, he doesn't belong in Government period, let alone as SecDef.

    "Furthermore, if you think this would be the very very last cut ever if we let it happen, you are a very confused little rabbit." cai

    by JesseCW on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:18:44 PM PST

  •  Democratic Presidents, of late, seem to (4+ / 0-)
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    jo fish, Pragmatus, ConfusedSkyes, tb mare

    have this fetish about showing how big they are by appointing Republicans to important positions. I have a few positions I'd like to appoint Republicans to, but this is a family blog.

    We're still afraid of Nixon. By the way, we won that fight, so I don't know why we're still afraid of him.

    Get your goddamned guns out of my church. This means you.

    by commonmass on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:20:34 PM PST

  •  This is the first petition that I've seen (9+ / 0-)

    on DailyKos that I actually opposed.

    I'm not a big fan of bipartisanship.  But I think we're fools to not recognize that a lot of the Democrats that would qualify for this post in the eyes of the powers that be are TO THE RIGHT OF CHUCK HAGEL.  Who used to be a Republican.  

    That's how far the Overton Window has moved, that Chuck Hagel, REPUBLICAN, is probably further to the left on defense issues than that worthless dick we have in there now, Leon Panetta.

    Chuck Hagel took a lot of grief when he came out against the War in Iraq.  He voted for it initially (he gets no brownie points for that), but when he turned against it, it cost him politically, which is something we can't say about Kerry's latter-day conversion on it, nor Hillary Clinton's much-resisted last-minute conversion on it when she was losing her primary.  

    And the Neocons hate him.  Maybe we'll finally get somebody who can root out the burrowing gophers neocon gophers that have managed to hang on through lackluster administration.

    So I'm fine with Chuck Hagel.  I suppose I would prefer a Democrat, but we'd probably get somebody that was more complicit in the Bush administration war fiasco but from the Democratic side.

  •  lets be real (4+ / 0-)

    Nominating Hagel helps move moderate republicans toward the democrats.  You can't vilify Hagel's defense positions without alienating moderates.  The fact that Neocons are vilifying Hagel as an antisemite is representative. Hagel can move us toward a postion in which we can oppose Israeli obstacles toward peace while providing protection to democrats. This is a good thing.

  •  We need another republican as SecDef as much as (6+ / 0-)

    we need another Bush back in government.  

    Like many others, I don't understand why there is such a fetish by Democratic presidents to nominate republicans for this position.  We Democrats have a strong bench for candidates for SecDef and Obama needs to bring someone forward from our side to fill the post.  Republicans did not win the election in November, and kissing their collective asses never wins us anything anyhow...

    As someone else said, Hagel getting his talking points from Richard Armitage ought to be a big, flashing "No Fucking Way" sign in the road right up front.  The last thing needed is a neo-con voice once-removed on the's bad enough that Obama kept so many Bush era holdovers (John Brennan among them) around in high-level jobs for so long.  

    Hagel needs to go back to Nebraska and enjoy the spoils of his years of congressional graft in peace, perhaps even pick himself up a nice little wingnut-welfare sinecure to pass those quiet days on the open prairie.  I'm sure Jimmy DeMint will pay him nicely to take the sharp edges off the Tea Party screeds that Heritage will be putting out by the metric shit-ton starting in January.  

    A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism. -Carl Sagan

    by jo fish on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:32:25 PM PST

  •  diary by Foreign Policy journalist today on DK (1+ / 0-)
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    •  from that link (1+ / 0-)
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      I am fine with the pick

      Nicholas Burns, former Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, and Ambassador to NATO and Greece; Ryan Crocker, former Ambassador to Iraq and Afghanistan; Edward Djerejian, former Ambassador to Israel and Syria; William Harrop, former Ambassador to Israel; Daniel Kurtzer, former Ambassador to Israel and Egypt; Sam Lewis, former Ambassador to Israel; William H. Luers, former Ambassador to Venezuela and Czechoslovakia; Thomas R. Pickering, former Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, and Ambassador to Israel and Russia; and Frank G. Wisner, former Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, and Ambassador to Egypt and India have an open letter in Foreign Policy declaring their support for the nomination of Chuck Hagel to be Secretary of Defense.
  •  Opposition!! So when will Obama back down? (0+ / 0-)

    I'm glad the predictable is coming.  I'd rather see a Democrat in this position.  Call me crazy.

    In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act--Orwell

    by jhannon on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:42:46 PM PST

  •  I guess Kucinich (2+ / 0-)
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    would clear senate easier?

    •  Exactly, Obama will need 60 Senate votes, (1+ / 0-)
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      absent real filibuster reform.

      If a former GOP Senator can't get there, who could?

      The GOP Senate minority will be more wingnut and obstructionist than ever next year,

      A Les Aspin-type nominee for Secretary of Defense would have no chance.

      A public option for health insurance is a national priority.

      by devtob on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 06:33:16 PM PST

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  •  Why is Wes Clark not being considered? (5+ / 0-)

    Is there something I don't know about him?  I thought he was out of the military long enough now that he would be a viable choice.

    Ceterum censeo Factionem Republicanam esse delendam.

    by journeyman on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:45:13 PM PST

    •  Frankly, I think Wes Clark would make Obama (3+ / 0-)

      seem very small in comparison.  Knowledgeable, articulate, liberal........... and an ex-general.

      Chief Execs of a certain persuasion hate that.

      Be of good comfort, Master Ridley, and play the man; we shall this day light such a candle by God's grace in England as shall never be put out.

      by Bollox Ref on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 06:36:36 PM PST

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      •  Riiight. Maybe in your dreams at night. (1+ / 0-)
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        But that's about it.  

        The NRA is the Gun Manufacturer Lobby. Nothing more. Their pontification about the second amendment is nothing more than their ad jingle. They're the domestic version of the Military Industrial Complex.

        by Jacoby Jonze on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 06:56:32 PM PST

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    •  Don't know exactly (0+ / 0-)

      From a coworker I got the impression that Fox had been circulating some crap about him, which of course I wouldn't find out about any other way.  They might be expecting someone to start throwing bombs if they send him up, but that might also have been just to destroy his fleeting presidential notions. But yes, I think he's a good alternative.  I don't share the fear and loathing of nominating any republican however. From my observations, Hagel might be fine.

  •  Isn't LaHood Enough? (2+ / 0-)
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    I actually think Hagel would make a decent SecDef, but we already have a GOPer in the cabinet. I don't know why we need more, or why we want to perpetuate the myth that Democrats are soft on defense.

    Unapologetic Obama supporter.

    by Red Sox on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 06:05:48 PM PST

    •  FDR had five in his cabinet at various times (0+ / 0-)

      William Woodlin, Harold Ickes, Henry Wallace, Henry Stimson, and Frank Knox.

      But none of these folks with the possible exception of Stimson was a conventional Republican. Hagel is -- and veers dangerously towards the scary isolationism of Ron and Rand Paul.

  •  There's a long tradition of Democrats appointing (0+ / 0-)

    Republicans to defense posts.  FDR appointed Henry Stimson, JFK MacNamara and Clinton Cohen.  Hagel would be a good choice.

    Let all the Bush tax cuts expire

    by Paleo on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 06:29:56 PM PST

  •  Are you kidding me?? Liberals should love Hagel. (3+ / 0-)
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    This diary is so wrong.

    Liberals should love Chuck Hagel. Why? He is a Republican and a veteran who offers President Obama cover to do the difficult things he wants to do:

    1) Slash the defense budget
    2) Stop us from going to war in Iran
    3) Stand up to the Neocons when it comes to the human rights  and relations with the Arab/Muslim world.

    Who cares if he has an R after his name? On the most important policy issues that a SecDef has influence over, he is further left than all the establishment/corporatist Democrats.

    Please visit my website:

    by MarylandDem on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 06:32:10 PM PST

  •  screw the Republicans (1+ / 0-)
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    and screw Chuck Freakin Hagel.  Why not Chuck Norris?  Chuck E Cheese?  Chuckles the Clown?  If there's one thing (and there's WAY more than one thing) that the GOP has proven itself incapable of handling, it's national defense.  When these yahoos get involved w/affairs of state, it generally takes years to clean up the mess.  Let's have an adult Democrat take over.

    the best lack all conviction while the worst are full of passionate intensity

    by mailman27 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 07:08:31 PM PST

  •  He's being considered ... I suppose ... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... because Obama likes and respects him, in the same way that he likes and respects Biden and Kerry. All are bright and articulate humans. Mistake free? 100% agreeable on all my positions? No and no. But a very fine candidate for the job.

  •  For cutting $, Hagel better than Panetta, etc. (1+ / 0-)
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    Key is cutting military spending, for which Hagel is well positioned. His Gay positions are a major negative, in view of recent progress in the military. If Hagel really wants this appointment, he should make a public statement supporting recent progress in Gay rights in military.

    A clear bonus is Hagel being against war with Iran, having learned from his mistake in originally supporting war with Iraq.

    Arguably another bonus is Hagel having a history of pushing back against kowtowing to Netanyahu.  Appointing Hagel reframes this pushback as a 'heartland' (& bipartisan) position, which would be neatly demolish the Republican craziness that conflates any Obama criticism of Netanyahu policies as more evidence supporting their fantasies challenging Obama's status as a 'real American'.

  •  I really could care less at this point (0+ / 0-)

    Barack Obama is Commander in Chief and the buck stops at him so if people want to stick the blame at Chuck Hagel if he becomes Secretary of Defense, then what's the point?  It's Obama giving the orders and Hagel is to delegate those orders.  Besides, Hagel is NOT that bad of a Republican.  He's not necessarily Teddy Roosevelt but he's not a right-wing ideologue either.  He's not perfect but he also recognizes there are other people who have different points of view and doesn't try to demagogue them.

    How about this:  Why doesn't Chuck Hagel become an Assistant Secretary of State or an Ambassador?  He did of course serve with Barack Obama, John Kerry, Richard Lugar and Joe Biden on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee from 2005-2009.

  •  Simple (0+ / 0-)

    I'm 61
    I like to keep things simple.
    After two years of HISTORICAL Obstruction, I don't think the repukes should be rewarded with ANY Cabinet appointment.
    Work together = work together.
    I also don't think the risk of a change in a Senate seat is worth John Kerry being SOS. Unfortunately the way most "sheep" view things, "He lost, that thereby makes him a ....."
    Not the way I think, but that's the real world of the sheep.
    I'd also like to see the PRESIDENT NOT return a Bohner call !
    P.S. Until the funerals are over I'm still in My Deepest Condolences. Not in the mood.

  •  Why not Wes Clark? (1+ / 0-)
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    Want a Democrat for Defense secretary? Why not a former 4 star General with a great deal of policy experience as well as political experience? Seems like General Clark would be the perfect nominee.

  •  Obama should pick all Rep Senators (0+ / 0-)

    for cabinet posts

    They would have to do his bidding instead of obstructing

    The republicans in Congress couldn't skewer them

    Every republican senator who accepts a post gives the democrats one more senate seat to fight for  

  •  you tell me (0+ / 0-)

    why is Obama choosing another republican?
    I do not understand our President and that is why I did not vote for him the second time around.  I stayed home for the first time in a national election.
    And on another subject, tell me why our President is poking his nose into the UK and calling Cameron and telling him to stay in the EU? I am done with this President.

  •  Armitage (1+ / 0-)
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    Richard Armitage was Deputy Secretary of State (not defense) during the George W. Bush administration - he was fairly close to Colin Powell during that period.

    He worked at the Department of Defense through 1989 - (I'm not sure of the exact date) so it's possible that it's accurate to describe him as a "Bush defense official,"  but I suspect that's not how most would interpret that term.

    He is a Republican, but he's not a representative of the Iraq War era Department of Defense.

    •  And a thoughtful critic (2+ / 0-)
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      Armitage is a good guy by any standards.   Hagel is not an isolationist but cautious about use of military force before all other options have been exhausted.  That speaks volumes to me.  I don't care about the R behind his name.   Really don't.  Defense and State have huge problems in sorting out roles and missions after the Bush fiascoyears forced an odd convergence.  Hagel and Kerry know how the processes, budgetary, legislative and political that restore efficient functioning are supposed to work.  

  •  Valerie Plame (1+ / 0-)
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    Actually she'd be my pick for CIA Director, but given the other names being bandied about, why not?

    When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

    by Egalitare on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 04:28:10 AM PST

  •  he could cut the DoD bloated budget (0+ / 0-)

    80 % of Success is Just Showing Up !

    by Churchill on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 06:53:28 AM PST

  •  with no war on Iran - Israeli Apartheid is LOST (0+ / 0-)

    With Chuck Hagel in at Sec at Defense there will be no war on Iran - with no war on Iran - Israeli Apartheid is LOST

    Just witness the Neocon desperation over the Hagel appointment - it speaks volumes and is the same desperation exhibited by Netanyahu last fall as he was stopped from pushing the US into war with Iran -

    And see what happened after Netanyahu was stopped.....

    Miracle of all Miracles - a Palestinian state was born

    Why? - precisely BECAUSE Israel pulling off a major regional war engulfing America FAILED - does everybody see that?

    The progress at the UN with creation of the Palestinian 'good enough for the ICC-state' - the tremendous pressure now being exerted on Israel currently with Fortress Apartheid beginning to collapse - all of this is BECAUSE we prevented Israel from pushing us into a war with Iran.

    The Israeli/Netanyahu plan on Iran GONE AWRY is what is making all the progress with Palestine possible - thus the Neocons with their desperate last ditch efforts to get the Iran plan back on track.

    They literally have nothing to lose - if they fail stopping this nomination they won't get Iran, and if they don't get Iran they will LOSE Apartheid

    The Hagel appointment means 'no war on Iran' and 'no war on Iran' means the END of Israeli Apartheid - this is the secret - this is why the Neocons are on rampage

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