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At least the GOP as we know it. It will be around in name perhaps for a long time but will have to change to stay around in any real sense. If they continue in their current course they will become a bickering 'has been' fighting among themselves over the meager spoils.

The GOP just found out it’s "Angry White Guy" base is no longer enough to win national elections against the reinvigorated Democratic party. Massive amounts of money and lying ads don’t work either. Hate mongering radio shows and TV media support will not put them in office.

While they will be a force to be reckoned with for years to come, as long as we Democrats continue to work as well as we have since Obama came on the national scene the GOP is going to get less and less relevant unless they change and change a lot.

If they continue to bicker so much internally and refuse to enter into a real meaningful dialog they will be seen my more and more voters as a do nothing entity. That means voters will vote for parties they see as problem solvers. Voters know that sometimes (well make that usually) it is necessary to compromise a little (or a lot too) to get what you need.

When you go to the polls there are usually parties outside the real mainstream that may or may not have interesting and sometimes good ideas. But voters know voting for them is just throwing your vote away as they cannot win and if they did win while some of their ideas are good they would not be able to get enough congressional support to make any changes. So they vote for the party that has the best chance to win that will promote their ideas into legislation. Ralph Nader had some interesting ideas but I've never been able to find anyone who voted for him. How many of you voted for him.

Just debating is not what we send congress people to Washington, DC to do. We send them to debate and then legislate. Here is a definition of that word thanks to Merriam-Webster.

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/legislate
Apr 11, 2012 – leg·is·lat·ed leg·is·lat·ing. Definition of LEGISLATE. intransitive verb. : to perform the function of legislation; specifically : to make or enact laws …

Notice that is does not mention anything about bickering over principles and then going home without performing the function of making or enacting laws. If we wanted just bickering we would vote for them to just participate in a debate. Many participated in debates to get the right to legislate for us. We pay them very good wages and give them good health care on our dime to LEGISLATE!

So GOP get your act together and legislate or take your act to debate forums where it seems to belong. Personally I want the GOP to continue their current path since it'll hasten the day their ideas are limited to debate forums. I just hope their current lack of will to legislate will not ruin our country’s credit. Gold does not pay our bills, the knowledge we will pay when our debts as those debts become due is the real deal maker or breaker.

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  •  Grounded Out Party in this ball game it seems. (8+ / 0-)

    Maybe many Repbulicans think congress is a place to play the game of politics not where legislation is done.

    Lets vote to set them straight. Umm... oh we just did that!!

    Well we are just going to have to do it again and again until they get the message or there is no one there to receive the message.

    Our money system is not what we have been led to believe. The creation of money has been "privatized," or taken over by private money lenders. Thomas Jefferson called them “bold and bankrupt adventurers just pretending to have money.” webofdebt

    by arealniceguy on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 08:03:45 PM PST

  •  Careful! (14+ / 0-)

    The same predictions were circulating back in 2008...

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 08:53:54 PM PST

  •  It can't die fast enough for me. (3+ / 0-)
    •  I grew up on a farm and had to help kill chickens. (1+ / 0-)
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      We would put their heads between two nails and swing one nail that was bent so the chicken could not move it's neck and then my grand dad would swing his axe and chop off the poor chickens head. The headless chicken body would hop around for a long time sometimes even walking before it fell lifeless.

      To me it was something we had to do but not something I liked to see. That is what the Republicans seem to be right now. Maybe they will get their act together but if not I do not see their current show as being one able to get enough voters to win national elections. To me B? what's his name seems like a chicken head that does not yet know he no longer has control of or support from his body.

      Our neighbor raised chickens for the eggs and gave us our egg supply in exchange for fresh plucked (Killed, feathers removed and guts taken out.) chickens. I liked her laying chickens and helped her feed them because I was never going to have to help kill them.

      The Republicans now causing problems in congress are like the chickens we raised. I have no feeling for them when voters kill their chances of getting to congress. Oh I value some of their input, just not enough to think they are worth all the trouble they are now causing.

      I do not want to see a one party system here in the US but I think the last election showed what most Americans want and it is not a party of 'Angry White Racists.'

      Our money system is not what we have been led to believe. The creation of money has been "privatized," or taken over by private money lenders. Thomas Jefferson called them “bold and bankrupt adventurers just pretending to have money.” webofdebt

      by arealniceguy on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 10:05:47 PM PST

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  •  History suggests otherwise. n/t (6+ / 0-)
  •  perhaps but it will be a long slow death with some (1+ / 0-)
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    this just in

    deadly spasms. Just look at how many states they control and what those states are doing to unions and our basic rights as Americans. The damage they can do when they do 'legislate' is incalculable from gun rights to hate acts against minorities to environmental distruction.

    Then there is the harm they do with their hate rhetoric which encourages people to hate their government and each other. Americas lunatics have flocked to their banner and are stockpiling explosives, guns and hate. It will explode from time to time and we'll all suffer for it.

    So I agree they're toast in national elections but like a cornered snake they'll be doing a lot of damage for several decades. They're the WPP (white peoples party) and white people will be a force in America for most of this century at least. We must do our best to contain them as they slowly meet their demise.

    America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

    by cacamp on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 09:58:46 PM PST

  •  47% of the population votes with them. Afraid they (4+ / 0-)

    aren't going away soon enough.

    if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

    by mrsgoo on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 10:00:09 PM PST

  •  Nah. (0+ / 0-)

    The game needs two teams. It's all a sham. The only real guy in there is Bernie Sanders.

  •  The Good ol' Boy club is dying (2+ / 0-)
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    Not only among the republicans in congress, but everywhere. The outrage over the NRA is another clear example that this is happening.

    They don't get it. They are like little kids putting their fingers in their ears so they don't have to hear what they don't want to.

    O great creator of being grant us one more hour to perform our art and perfect our lives. ::: Jim Morrison :::

    by Kevanlove on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 11:22:56 PM PST

  •  No more than the devil was in his dying gasps... (0+ / 0-)

    When Adam and Eve were kicked out of Eden.

    "I don't give them Hell. I just tell the truth about them and they think it's Hell."

    by Notthemayor on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 12:39:45 AM PST

  •  lotta state houses Remain/Red+Govs.. (1+ / 0-)
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    clime parches on. terms: ocean rise, weather re-patterning, storm pathology, drout-famine, acceptance of nature.

    by renzo capetti on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 01:27:06 AM PST

  •  I can't wait for the GOP to become irrelevant... (0+ / 0-)

    ...when that happens, Democrats should push to eliminate political parties altogether via a constitutional amendment!

    Elizabeth Warren on the Senate Banking Committee is a BFD!

    by DownstateDemocrat on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 01:45:40 AM PST

  •  The bottom line is... (0+ / 0-)

    Extremism over the course of human history has never produced anything positive. So when you look at the knowledge of history by people such as Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin...well, you get my point.

    The Republican Party of today has the emotional maturity of your average three-year-old. They don't get it that (1) they're elected to do the will of their constituents and (2) debate and compromise have always been at the forefront of American progress. Take away these two elements and what do you get? The exact thing they bicker about from morning to night: wasted taxpayer money. Yes, that's what happens with an obstructionist Congress. This fiscal cliff fiasco is proof of that.

    The sad part of this is, the American electorate has far too short a memory. Somehow, we need to set up media-based reminders and wake-up calls along the lines of "Remember the last time we were in this situation?". At least now we've got social media in the mix to help with this problem.

    To conclude, I think Dwight Eisenhower and Barry Goldwater are rolling over in their graves in seeing what their GOP has become. Quite the embarrassment, wouldn't you say?

    •  That short memory..................... (0+ / 0-)

      is partially due to the Main Stream Media and their focus on balance and "false equivalencies."  It is part of their job to say, "remember the last time;" but if the "last time" reflects negatively on the Rethugs you can bet it will not be mentioned.

      The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation--HDT

      by cazcee on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 06:02:32 AM PST

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    •  s/extremism/conservatism/ (0+ / 0-)

      Sam Adams, Patrick Henry, and Thomas Jefferson were extremists. So were Abraham Lincoln and the radical Republicans who abolished slavery and gave us the thirteenth and fourteenth amendments.

      I would argue that it is not extremism but conservatism that has never produced anything positive over the course of human history. It has only retarded progress and helped perpetuate injustice, oppression, and misery.

  •  Gerrymandering after a census is only way Repups (0+ / 0-)

    kept their House majority. If state referendums don't correct that horror, changes in demographics can't do it this decade and we will be stuck with some form of extremist governance. Petition for changes in the way state and congressional districts are made or other wise be stuck with a totally dysfunctional US House and dreadful republican state leges.

    I'd tip you but they cut off my tip box. The TSA would put Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad on the no-fly list.

    by OHdog on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 05:08:05 AM PST

  •  The only way the GOP dies (0+ / 0-)

    ...is when working Americans remember their common interests and resolve to vote accordingly. That isn't happening; otherwise, how does Romney the Wall Streeter get even a single vote in a state like West Virginia, let alone carry the state?

    No, this war isn't nearly over. Moreover, big money can win even if the GOP does nothing more than undermine public confidence in public institutions. There are other centers of power and persuasion big money can use, and nature abhors a power vacuum as much as any other.

  •  My biggest fear is that what we.............. (0+ / 0-)

    are seeing in Congress will go on steroids.  The Rethugs have no desire to govern. They only pursue raw power and have no problem with any action, up to and including the destruction of our democracy, to get their way.

    Frankly, some of the Rethugs in Washington and the "Red" state houses would rather see the country destroyed than to allow any democratic or progressive policies and programs.  It is all or nothing for them and until they are out of power completely; we have a lot to fear.

    The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation--HDT

    by cazcee on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 06:10:42 AM PST

  •  I would agree.... (0+ / 0-)

    But the claim is at least 4 or more years old. Problem is, the MSM keeps resuscitating them.Hopefully, the MSM in it's current form will also die and be replaced by citizen journalists if we are ever going to survive this insanity.

    •  One of the reasons we were able to get around MSM (0+ / 0-)

      this time it was citizen journalists, bloggers like us, social media and dedicated folks all over the US. There is a crack in the MSM firewall and unless they figure a way to blunt all the new tools we can win and it will not be the world as we now know it.

      Our money system is not what we have been led to believe. The creation of money has been "privatized," or taken over by private money lenders. Thomas Jefferson called them “bold and bankrupt adventurers just pretending to have money.” webofdebt

      by arealniceguy on Tue Dec 25, 2012 at 01:40:12 AM PST

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