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I have been accused on several occasions of harbouring anti-Semitic feelings.  My criticism is of the State of Israel's policies in regard to the Palestinian population.  It has nothing to do with Judaism, nothing to do with Islam, it has everything to do with human rights.

My criticism of the State of Israel doesn't make strike me blind to the horrors inflicted on the population of many of the Islamic States of the Middle East.  I am not claiming that the governance of those states is superior to the governance of Israel.  I am not claiming support for these states and their leadership.  My criticism of Israel stems from their portrayal as the moral light unto nations, their complete denial of wrongdoing and violations of human rights and their continued colonialization.

When I look at a Middle Eastern State, what I see is what I get.  Violations of human rights is not necessarily the exception, but is the rule.  It is clear to everyone what they are doing and why they are doing it.  When I look at Israel, I see a nation which has been oppressing the indigenous population for over six decades and claims to be an "leader" of democratic governance.  I see a state that, until recently, received unconditional support from Western nations even if it allowed the oppression of another population continued on.  I also see a state which denies the history of the Palestinian people, denies their basic fundamental right to self determination all for the one simple objective, land expansionism.  What bothers me the most, is I see the state of Israel, along with their Western puppets, Canada and the United States, deliberately demonize a population based upon their faith through distortion, manipulation and outright lies, in order to fulfill a political agenda.

As long as nations like Canada equate valid criticism to anti-Semitism, there is no chance for peace.  To legislate and ban terms such as Israeli Apartheid, Canada is placing a roadblock on the road towards peace.  How can one engage in honest dialogue when it is forbidden to criticize Israel's actions that are illegal under International law? When actions of a state fall within the scope of the legal definition of Apartheid, why is it illegal to call it what it is?

The United States, along with Canada's recent best friend status and unconditional support to the State of Israel is not only allowing Israel to redefine human rights under occupation, but is denying the Palestinians their history.  Considering the history of the Jewish people is often denied and met with valid accusations of anti-Semitism, the application of these tactics to another population is troubling.  If the State of Israel cannot even acknowledge the ills perpetuated on the indigenous population, how is a just peace to be brokered?  Until then, we will just see more of the same until "the problem" of the Palestinians ceases to exist.

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  •  Tip Jar (9+ / 1-)

    Canadian mother of four, works at Canadian University, blogs and co-host of Blog Talk Radio's "Lies My Country Told Me" with co-host and love of my life, Fred Lemon.

    by mmayer on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 03:58:09 PM PST

  •  Criticizing Israel is not anti-semitic (8+ / 0-)

    That's something that right wingers and military democrats use to ad-hominem their enemies into submission.  The criticism doesn't even make sense.

    "Holding on to anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die," - Buddha.

    by sujigu on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 04:18:40 PM PST

  •  it depends ... (6+ / 0-)

    Not all criticism of Israel or its policies is anti-Semitic, but some criticism could be, depending on the content and/or wording of the criticism.

  •  Nope, just like criticizing US policy (12+ / 0-)

    Isn't Anti-American.

    However, when people start claiming that the Jews=Nazis and criticism of Israel starts veering into "Jews hate others because that's what their religion teaches"  THEN we have a problem.

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 04:28:40 PM PST

  •  Ask yourself this... (4+ / 0-)

    if you were as critical of Islamic nations, if you used the same tone of disgust to describe their inevitable misdeeds... how would people respond? Some folks might accuse you of being biased against muslims.

    That wouldn't necessarily make them right, anymore than people calling you prejudiced against jews are right. It's not like we can see into your heart. People have their sympathies, and that informs their worldview. The problem with this issue is that there really is no clear good/bad actor, at least as far as the elites on both sides are concerned. You have corrupt leaders on both sides driving this conflict. Israel is more powerful and is a US ally, which further clouds the issue.

    Alot of Israel's critics resent Jews and the existence of a Jewish state. But of course that doesn't get Israel off the hook for their various bad acts. At the same time, it would be helpful if Hamas would stop shooting rockets at people's homes. I have no concrete answers, but do try to think how it would sound if someone on the other side spoke of your side the way you do theirs. That always helps to give you some perspective.

    You can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America.

    by Eric Stratton on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 04:47:09 PM PST

    •  I haven't seen a rush to criticize anti-muslim (1+ / 0-)
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      viepoints.   Heck, you are considered extremely tolerant and perhaps a "dhimmi" if you think that Muslims can have a mosque on their own property.   You can pretty much attribute any evil to Muslims and very few people in this country would even notice.      So this is not really an issue that you can turn around and say "both sides do it."  

      I think there is a law in this country where the word "Palestenian" must be followed by "mililtant" even though as a group the Israeli settlers are far more militant and violent (even against fellow Israelis.)      

      •  Dude, chill. (1+ / 0-)
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        I'm just making a point about treating people the way you want them to treat you. I take offense to the notion that Americans are all bigots. Teabaggers are like that, but most Americans are very tolerant. I live in a very Republican suburb of Dallas, and there are several Mosques as well as Synagogues and all manner of other religious centers.

        If the I/P crowd could make their arguments without being so resentful, I think you'd find more folks like me would be willing to listen to you POV. As it is, I think it's about time for me to say good evening to you.

        You can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America.

        by Eric Stratton on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 05:20:45 PM PST

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  •  Sometimes it is, and sometimes it ain't. nt (2+ / 0-)
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  •  If you use the words like 'Western puppets' it's (5+ / 0-)

    likely that this particular criticism may very well be anti-semitic. There is a difference between criticizing specific actions or policies and conjuring conspiracies.

  •  your concern is noted. (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Calling people anti-semitic is a cheap (4+ / 0-)
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    tactic. It serves to shut down discussion. The world sees through these tactics, so Israel needs to get its act together.

    Stay fired up: now is the time to focus on downticket change! #Forward

    by emidesu on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 05:35:05 PM PST

    •  only when the posts aren't anti-Semitic. (3+ / 0-)
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      when they are, it's called shining a spotlight.

      When I read things like 'AIPAC-owned congress', for example, from posters here (links not necessary because we all know they exist) then I will yell at people for anti-Semitic posts.

      •  How is that anti-semitic? (2+ / 0-)
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        How is it different from "NRA-owned Congress?"

        Stay fired up: now is the time to focus on downticket change! #Forward

        by emidesu on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 05:50:04 PM PST

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        •  NRA-owned congress doesn't perpetuate an (2+ / 0-)
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          ethnic conspiracy theory.  like 'United States of Israel'.

          Compare "Jews own the media' with 'The Tea Party owns the media'.

          •  It is quite a jump from AIPAC (3+ / 0-)
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            to Jews. But AIPAC has tremendous influence on Congress (otherwise why would we see unanimous votes encouraging Bibi's belligerence) and evades criticism by crying "anti-semitism." People get sloppy with words at times. Those conspiracy theories don't get much play among educated people, so they are forgotten at times. I guess on any subject here we use hyperbole without remembering how personal it is for some.

            Stay fired up: now is the time to focus on downticket change! #Forward

            by emidesu on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 06:22:36 PM PST

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            •  Spend some time in Europe. You would find it (3+ / 0-)
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              surprising  how many well-meaning people buy completely into the stereotype that 'Jews own the media' or 'Jews elect your president/congress'.  Several friends of mine.

              I had to patiently explain the distinction between Jewish influence in society--a product of strong educational values, family/kinship ties, sense of community--and Jewish 'ownership' of something.  I also had a friend (girl I almost  dated) ask why it was that Jews were insular and racist because of this idea of a Jewish 'community'.  She meant no ill-will by it, either.

              The I/P issue as depicted in the European press and popular wisdom is very, very biased and often DOES cross well-over the anti-Semitic boundary--far more than this AIPAC example.  A friend of mine is finishing his PhD thesis on this very issue.

              That is why throw-away lines like AIPAC owns congress are much more sinister than many think.  There is also the issue that AIPAC DOESN'T own congress---the Chrisian faux-Zionists are much more influential and dangerous.  They use AIPAC--but there is only so much that AIPAC can do.  They are NOT the NRA.  Despite Sheldon Adelson's millions.  They don't speak for Jews either--(a largely democratic voting bloc) but a lot of people believe that they do.

              •  Then we have huge, and opposite, (4+ / 0-)
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                media problems on both sides of the pond. The fear among US journalists of being blacklisted for writing anything that appears critical of Israel is a huge problem. And if the uncritically pro-Israel Congress is due to Christian Zionism, how do you explain Dem congressmen in liberal districts still rolling over every time? Netanyahu crapped all over Obama by attacking Gaza in November and not one US Rep stood up to him. I find that shameful and can only attribute it to fear.

                Stay fired up: now is the time to focus on downticket change! #Forward

                by emidesu on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 07:06:38 PM PST

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                •  The term "anti-semitic" can itself be hate speech (5+ / 0-)

                  The term anti-semitism is so overused these days, it's become a form of hate-speak.  The term is applied by some indiscriminately against anyone (Jew, Muslim and Gentile alike) who dares criticize the Israeli Right and their policies of military expansion and permanent occupation. It's become a thought-stopper.

                •  no dispute re: media--they are indeed biased (2+ / 0-)
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                  on both sides of the pond.  I love the BBC and the Guardian--but the Guardian is staunchly anti-Israel.

                  There is a complex issue in the cultural affinity between the U.S., American Jews and Israel as it reflects European Jewry--a perceived cultural alliance that has not been extended to Muslims/Palestinians--continuing evidence of the 'occidentalism'/'orientalism' framework.  That continues in the political discourse of 'Israel is our greatest ally...oh, and Palestinians are people too' kind of thinking that we get from our politicians.

                  Israel itself had, until recently (really post-9/11) been identified as a left rather than a right-wing cause--a lot of this coming on the heels of the 4 wars through the 1970s during which Israel, despite its gains in 1967 and despite the occupation, could still be seen as a threatened nation on a more global geopolitical stage.  Israeli response to the first Palestinian intefada (and, not long after, its hold-back during the first Gulf War) all served to foster some international goodwill as well.)

                  While AIPAC was certainly involved then as well, the heavily rightist bent, in line with Christian Zionism (and a pretty large-dose of anti-Muslim sentiments) is new-ish, and Democratic response to it still reflects a somewhat confused identification in the post-9/11 political mentality.

                  That said, I do not believe that some of the calls voiced here and elsewhere to fully abandon Israel are well-intentioned.  I would like to see more of a movement of the Democratic party to align themselves with the moderate-Israeli left and show a bit more strength in moving away from Netanyahu.

                  •  This.... (1+ / 0-)
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                    is an excellent comment:

                    That said, I do not believe that some of the calls voiced here and elsewhere to fully abandon Israel are well-intentioned.  I would like to see more of a movement of the Democratic party to align themselves with the moderate-Israeli left and show a bit more strength in moving away from Netanyahu.
                    I agree almost entirely with this except for this part where you say: "I do not believe that SOME of the calls....". I would change that I do not believe that MANY of the calls voiced here and elsewhere". But other than that, I a gree with your comment particularly regarding moving away from the Israeli Right and supporting the Center and Center/Left.

                    "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

                    by volleyboy1 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 01:22:25 PM PST

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              •  "Chrisian faux-Zionists are much more influential" (3+ / 0-)
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                This needs to be shouted from the rooftops. Many of the people who influence the US government to support Israel are, in the old sense of the term, anti-Semitic. I find some quotes from them blood-curdling and I'm not even Jewish.

      •  Isn't AIPAC supported by the Christian right? (1+ / 0-)
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  •  adding to my last comment--if you have to ask (5+ / 0-)

    'is something anti-Semitic' before writing it, then it's probably going to be a bit anti-Semitic.

    see also: 'Is it racist if i don't like Obama'?

  •  I am not anti-Israel (5+ / 0-)

    But I am anti-Likud. I will argue against the policies of Bibi all day long and not have any animosity towards Jews. I have heard that stronger discussions of Israeli policies take place every day in Israeli coffee shops than we are capable of here because of the "anti-semitic" label.

    "I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night..."

    by Killer on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 05:49:29 PM PST

  •  I have a lot of friends that are Jewish and they (5+ / 0-)

    would not in any way construe your very accurate criticism of Israel's hard line stance against the Palestinian people as anti-semitic at all. Unless you watch the BBC or Al Jazeera English, Americans in general get very little information that isn't pro-Israeli. And the average American certainly has no clue how we have colluded with Israel for close to 60 years to the detriment of both of our countries, not to mention all the many countries caught in the middle. We are paying the price for a very bad middle east foreign policy that began for the most part after the Korean War. I am not pro anything, but pro human. I applaud you for being willing to speak up and try to foster this kind of debate, because it is long past time we started to face some hard realities. I mean, when the Prime Minister of Israel attempts to sway an American Presidential Election, that demands some serious reflection on our parts.

    "On this train, dreams will not be thwarted, on this train faith will be rewarded" The Boss

    by mindara on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 05:59:15 PM PST

  •  "Antisemites:" Isaiah, Jeremiah, Moses (4+ / 0-)
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    Criticizing Israel was kind of their thing, it was pretty much all they did.

    There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

    by bernardpliers on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 06:14:58 PM PST

  •  Bullshit (6+ / 0-)

    sorry, but the usual bullshit predicated with "don't call me an anti-Semite."

    You say

    When I look at Israel, I see a nation which has been oppressing the indigenous population for over six decades and claims to be an "leader" of democratic governance.
    More than six decades? So you're not talking about the West Bank and Gaza. You're talking about the very existence of Israel, going back to 1948. Palestinians within Israel are Israelis citizens. So just what "indigenous population" are you talking about? Are you offended by Israel's failure to cease to exist voluntarily? The occupation is a perfectly valid conversation and Israel has more than its share of sins. But your gripe appears to be about its very existence.

    And you say

    How can one engage in honest dialogue when it is forbidden to criticize Israel's actions that are illegal under International law? When actions of a state fall within the scope of the legal definition of Apartheid, why is it illegal to call it what it is?
    Well no, it does not fit "the legal definition of Apartheid," since Palestinians in Israel are equal citizens. Some are even members of the Knesset. Again, you either have no fucking clue what you're talking about and don't know the difference between Israel and the Occupied Territories, or you consider the whole thing "occupied."

    By hey, I won't call you an anti-Semite. After all, as long as you tell me not to first, you can say whatever ignorant shit you want to, right?

    Done with politics for the night? Have a nice glass of wine with Palate Press: The online wine magazine.

    by dhonig on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 07:22:28 PM PST

  •  Israel is a government doing wrong (4+ / 0-)
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    We criticize governments and rulers for what they do not who they are. When my ancestors came to Massachusetts in the seventeenth century, the local governnment was stealing natives' land and colonizing it, much as the Israeli government does today. In both cases atrocities committed by the colonizers provoke reciprocal atrocities by the natives, but the colonists, backed by an overseas superpower, enjoy an immense advantage in resources and technology, so it is the natives who suffer the greater part. The Massachusett and Wampanoag peoples are massacred; survivors are shipped off to slavery in the Caribbean. Palestinians are driven into exile or herded into Bantustans and reduced to miserable impoverishment while Israel builds settlements on their land for its own people.

    When evil is done, it doesn't matter in what god's name it is done or by whose scripture it is justified. It remains evil and must be called so.

    •  Then I'm sure (1+ / 0-)
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      you will emigrate to the UK tout de suite? Oh, that's right, the Normans stole it from the Anglo-Saxons, and they in turn stole it from the Celts. What to do? What to do?

      "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

      by TLS66 on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 10:28:42 PM PST

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    •  My Jewish ancestors (0+ / 0-)

      got run out of Aleppo, with whatever they happened to be wearing. Now, before what has recently happened in Aleppo I thought it might be nice to go back there. It was a damn fine place. However in the recent past it's beee Jew-free.  I doubt I'd survive any attempted trip.

      None of that makes any of Israel's bone-stupid settlement policies OK, but when I see the UN making Syrian use of the uncompensated property of its former Jewish residents illegal and a war crime, I'll feel better.

      And OT, why do we still give Israel billions in foreign aid each year. I know the majority of it  has constraints such that it must be used to purchase US weapons, but still. Give the flipping money to some other carefully selected country that might actually use it for its people's benefit.

      And I'd really love to see a citation of some sort about the remnants of N.E. tribes being shipped to the Caribbean as slaves. Sounds dubiously but may well be true.

  •  It might be (2+ / 0-)
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    Criticism directed to the actions of Israel as a state is not anti-Semitic.

    Criticism that alleges that wrongful acts are related to or arise from the religion of the actors (i.e., saying that a particular kind of misconduct is more likely or explainable because the actors are Jewish) is anti-Semitic.

  •  Canadians DO NOT support the extremist CONS (0+ / 0-)
    As long as nations like Canada equate valid criticism to anti-Semitism, there is no chance for peace.
    The extreme right-wing positions of Canada's current CONservative government are a spin-off of the fundamentalist christianists in the U.S. and are not representative of the views of "typical" thinking Canadians. IMHO, if any country puts itself above valid criticism, it is on the path to fascism; I am happy to acknowledge Canada's many shortcomings just as I criticized the Bush/Cheney adventurism in Iraq long before it became fashionable.

    If your friends can't tell you what they think you're doing wrong, then you're headed to disaster.

  •  I think what really burns (2+ / 0-)
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    the asses of Israel supporters (like me), is that same criticism is not directed at other governments who engage in bad acts.  Where are the diaries condemning China for its behavior in Tibet, Uzbekistan and Myanmar for its treatment of dissidents, Syria for it's massacring of its own people, Iran for its imposition of fundamentalist theocracy?  It's not there ... at best a few diaries on DK which take nowhere near the harsh tone reserved for Israel.

    "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

    by TLS66 on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 10:33:05 PM PST

    •  P.S. (1+ / 0-)
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      while this may not excuse Israel, it does go to show the double standard directed towards it.  Also, what seems to be ignored is that Israel stands head over shoulders above its neighbors in many respect ... gay Arabs/Palestinians have to fear for their lives in their own lands.  That's why they flee to Israel. Arabs who are citizens of Israel are treated as such ... they can be represented in the Knesset, they are enfranchised.  Arab political parties, including those which believe that Israel should not exist, are permitted. At the same time, ultranationalist parties which have advocated Arabs being treated like second-class citizens have, at times, been banned (see Kach, for example). Recently, Avigdor Lieberman was forced to resign as Foreign Minister because he was indicted.  Try and see if a Syrian court will indict Assad or his buddies, or an Egyptian court Morsi and his buddies.

      "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

      by TLS66 on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 10:41:52 PM PST

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      •  You need to read dailykos a bit more (4+ / 0-)
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        There are diaries detailing Assad killing his own people.  Now, you might think that people are saving their "harsh" tone for Israel, but I've yet to see one "Pro-Assad" person on DKos.  It's pretty much evil dictator killing his own people.  Everyone agrees it's bad.

        As far as Israeli courts going after Avigdor Lieberman, okay, but I'm more concerned about the courts going after Israeli soldiers that shoot little kids and then discuss a military culture that says not shooting kids that throw rocks at you is a sign of weakness.  Lieberman is one man in a long chain of corrupt Israeli officials.  Does that make Israel evil?  Nope.  It makes 'em human like everybody else, which is what irks people here about this whole discussion, this unspoken rule that we're not supposed to put a moral barometer to Israel because we're supposed to assume their moral superiority from the outset.

        Besides, most of their neighbors really haven't had much of a chance to grow and be their own countries because the U.S. spent so much money propping up dictators that keep their own people down.  Hell, look at Bahrain and you can see we still do that, or at worse, keep quiet about it.

        "Holding on to anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die," - Buddha.

        by sujigu on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 11:19:58 PM PST

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        •  Not to mention (2+ / 0-)
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          some of the stone throwers are quite young but many are in the 17 to 18 year old range which is pretty much the age of the folks with guns who are their targets.

          The stone throwers are wrong and so are the the troops who shoot back. Not that many here at DKos or in the press care to see it that way.

          It's a known bad idea to bring stones to a gun fight. Non violent protest would have ended the mess in Israel long ago.

          A lot of Arabs don't much like Palestinians, accusing them of being too sharp, too bright, and too ambitious, indeed, the Jews of the Arab world. And they're right. Palestinians and Israelis should be allies and the top economic power in the Mideast.

          My grandfather had a small piecework dress shop in Gutenberg, NJ. After he died my Mom ran it and it put me thru college. Today it is owned by a Palestinian man. We speak fairly frequently and see each now and then. Our families get along wonderfully. We have an awful lot of shared background. We disagree on a lot and simply never talk about some things, but we never run out of things to talk about. And the old industrial, leather belt driven Singer sewing machines in their shop are now over 100 years old and still going strong.

          •  That is a facinating.. (0+ / 0-)

            ..story, fluffy.   I hope you diary it some day.  Amazing about the old sewing machines, and that the shop is still running after all these years.  So much of the garment industry around here (nyc vicinity) has died.

            HBO did a great documentary on the garment industry a couple of years ago:  Schmatta: Rags to Riches.  

            Your glitch can be your superpower (Sarah Silverman, Brand X)

            by sofia on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 11:35:59 AM PST

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            •  It's a little specialty shop (1+ / 0-)
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              always was. 13 machines if all are being used. 1 presser. The mostly Italian seamstresses of my folks days were all women. Now they're  all middle-eastern. There's just about enough work to keep them going. They can do fancy dresses (all we did back then) and jackets which can be very tough and have an amazing number of piece. For quality reasons some low volume lines like to keep their sources local.

              And Schmatta is just about the most wonderful thing HBO has ever done. If you're reading this you haven't seen it, try hard to se it. HBO truly nailed it with that film. My wife, who was a theatrical costumer and then a production patternmaker in high end women's wear loves it as much I do.

              •  I did see it. (0+ / 0-)

                ..someone I know worked on the documentary. Glad you saw and appreciated it as well.  

                On Gutenberg -- I once knew an Italian family that owned a small garment manufacturing business there.   I think they made lace.   No idea what happened to it.   I had completely forgotten about it til you mentioned your family's old business there.

                Your glitch can be your superpower (Sarah Silverman, Brand X)

                by sofia on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 12:16:01 PM PST

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          •  wow . . . (0+ / 0-)
            The stone throwers are wrong and so are the the troops who shoot back. Not that many here at DKos or in the press care to see it that way.
            Yeah, most of us just don't see it as a moral equivalence.
    •  Good question. (0+ / 0-)
      Where are the diaries condemning China for its behavior in Tibet, Uzbekistan and Myanmar for its treatment of dissidents, Syria for it's massacring of its own people, Iran for its imposition of fundamentalist theocracy?
      How many have you written?
      •  Good Question??? (0+ / 0-)

        Because this diary isn't talking about Myanmar or Uzbekistan.  It is talking about Israel. Please try to stay on topic.  Typical hasbaric diversion, bring in another nation into it.  Are you telling me that no one condemns China or Syria for their treatment of their population?  If you really believe that, there is not much to talk about.

        Canadian mother of four, works at Canadian University, blogs and co-host of Blog Talk Radio's "Lies My Country Told Me" with co-host and love of my life, Fred Lemon.

        by mmayer on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 09:08:30 PM PST

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        •  Anyone who complains (0+ / 0-)

          about how others don't care enough about the plight of the Uzbeks or Burmese or whoever, and yet doesn't do himself, is only using the plight of those people to advance their own agendas.

          Pretty tawdry, if you ask me.

          •  (*grrr*) darned disapperaring cursor . . . (0+ / 0-)

            That should be:

            Anyone who complains about how others don't care enough about the plight of the Uzbeks or Burmese or whoever to blog about them, and yet doesn't do it himself, is only using the plight of those people to advance their own agendas.

            Pretty tawdry, if you ask me.

    •  What really burns me (0+ / 0-)

      What really burns me is people who actually hold the bar higher for those they are criticizing than the bar they hold for themselves.

      "about how others don't care enough about the plight of the Uzbeks or Burmese or whoever, and yet doesn't do himself, is only using the plight of those people to advance their own agendas.

      Considering you don't know me, you don't know what I do or don't do in regard to the Burmese, the Chinese, the Congolese, or anyone else for that matter, it takes a considerable amount of gall to actually make accusations based on what?  Your psychic abilities?

      Considering you have submitted two diaries, one on OCT 21, 2012, "Keep Calm and Carry On" and the other on March 31, 2006, "Happy Birthday, President Gore!"; which I want to point out have nothing to do with the Uzbeks or Burmese or whoever, have been a member since Oct 22, 2004, based on the same criteria you used to make your judgement call, isn't it a little hypocritical to castigate what I do, when you virtually have done nothing?  

      Canadian mother of four, works at Canadian University, blogs and co-host of Blog Talk Radio's "Lies My Country Told Me" with co-host and love of my life, Fred Lemon.

      by mmayer on Mon Dec 24, 2012 at 10:17:58 PM PST

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  •  Depends on what your criticism is (1+ / 0-)
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    If its on policy issues I would say no.  That doesn't mean u r right but it isn't anti- Semitic to have a policy disagreement.

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

    by noofsh on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 08:34:57 AM PST

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