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Fox News debates ‘yoga Nazis’ and ‘the wussification of America’

I want to mostly bypass their nonsense about yoga, though it is the introduction to this bizarre tear on which they go bemoaning their idea that yoga being called a sport is sending a bad message to the children as is offering them yoga and Zen training.

No...Fox News talked with a 'motivational speaker' Larry Wingnut Winget, who made reference to his upcoming book "Grow a Pair". (No, I am not making that up). He feels yoga can't be a sport if there is no ball an or nobody "is keeping score".

“I think Yoga’s amazing, I think it’s wonderful,” Winget said sarcastically as co-host Steve Doocy giggled. “I’m going to say that because I don’t want all those yoga Nazis coming after me on this thing. Listen, I think it’s a great supplement to a real sport, but it’s certainly not a sport.”
Yes, the stupid is thick. Video at link if you're masochistic. Giggling is very manly, by the way.

It is this, along with a sarcastic reference in context about Zen training to help angry sports parents to which I take great exception and offense.

“I think it is a trend that is the wussification of American,” the “pitbull of personal development” added. “Luckily, I’ve got a new book coming out this fall called ‘Grow a Pair’ that deals with that very thing, that we need to toughen up and stand up for ourselves and learn to be a lot tougher than yoga’s going to teach us to do all by ourselves.”
All of this hot methane emanates from these gasbags partly due to wingnut ideology and it's complementary complete incompetence regarding that which they rail against. None of these idiots know a goddamned thing about yoga and they know even less about Zen.

The ideological part is their derision of anti-violence/peaceful lifestyle.

It's part of their DFH stereotype and central (at least in their tiny minds) to the whole concept of liberalism. Right from the beginning of the video they are concern-trolling about more and more children being taught yoga. One of the hosts decries the loss of competition and winning and losing.

Now, I do agree with some of what he says regarding socialization and humility (yes, that word was used - Irony IS dead) being a benefit of sports, not to mention the sheer physical and character development bit. But must of his presence there was to participate in a wingnut gangbang of liberal values and to call those values "wussy".

The disturbing wussification of America is what he called it: teaching children to cooperate (though competitive teams do this - he doesn't mind competition between socialist entities, I guess). Luckily, as he says, he's got a new book coming out so Americans can learn to man up.

Just what we need.

This is bullies, recently having had their collective ass kicked, whining and calling names and continuing to limp along with their agenda: rightwing propaganda. They  this guy to have a quick anti-liberal yuck-fest because, as they say that the beginning of the video, they have some time to kill.

Zen is at the heart of numerous martial arts and older martial arts are rooted in ancient spiritual disciplines. Shaolin Kung fu, anyone?  Bueller?

These fools know nothing about this and it's offensive to see them have such huge media access - with 'time to kill' - and to spend it smearing things they don't understand. It is, however, a fabulous biopsy of what FOX is all about, about what they are made of, and what they value.

And talk about the pot calling the kettle black: FOX news hosts are by and large a parade of flaccid, pampered wussies.

Sean Hannity. God what a flaming wimp. Is it just me, or do others see him as about as tough as overcooked pasta?

Bill O'Reilly. Deeeeeee-crepit. It would be nice to challenge him to a charity fight but he's too old and wussified from his financial success. He's totally wussed-out. But what an armchair commando. Without control of that mic he's nothing.

The two guys on the video - the FOX dorks - neither of them could do much more than wet themselves if confronted. What sniveling punks.

And these ignorant toads want to call exercising Americans 'wussies' because they don't have a ball and nobody's keeping score. Pathetic.

Unsure what's up with Mr. Tough Guy; he's done well for himself selling his books about picking yourself up by your bootstraps and just snapping out of it (whatever 'it' is). Maybe he eats rattlesnakes live. Maybe he really is tough. Maybe he's managed to sell methane and ('luckily')has a fresh release right around the corner.

But while he doesn't appear to know what he's talking about up front (I could care less if yoga was a sport or not), he sure hits the wingnut value system. I imagine that his book will sell well to FOX news sorts.

. . . . . especially if they release it in comic book form.



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  •  Egad. (15+ / 0-)

    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

    by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 12:12:37 PM PST

  •  Okay, first "Zen" was practiced by the Japanese... (7+ / 0-)

    and these guys were so tough they flew their planes right into allied shipping and made suicide charges at machine guns armed only with swords.

    So the idea that practicing Zen makes you a weakling, is full of crap.

    As for yoga? This dumbass couldn't do yoga if you held a gun to his head.  It is freaking hard and requires more discipline then these idiots are capable of producing.

    Tax and Spend I can understand. I can even understand Borrow and Spend. But Borrow and give Billionaires tax cuts? That I have a problem with.

    by LiberalCanuck on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 12:31:02 PM PST

  •  Kevin Drum also had a take on our (7+ / 0-)

    disturbing decline in violence. HE blames the lack of lead in our gasoline fumes. Damned EPA.

    “liberals are the people who think that cruelty is the worst thing that we do” --Richard Rorty Also, I moved from NYC, so my username is inaccurate.

    by jeff in nyc on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 12:37:01 PM PST

  •  "grow a pair" (5+ / 0-)

    it's not a sport if there are no balls?  Why is it always about the balls?

    In politics, there is the class war. Everything else is naming post offices.

    by happymisanthropy on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 12:39:15 PM PST

  •  School kids should not be doing yoga, they (4+ / 0-)
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    bewild, jan4insight, Bob Love, msmacgyver

    should be watching TV, eating chips and sucking back beer like real Muricans.

    We have only just begun and none too soon.

    by global citizen on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 12:40:31 PM PST

  •  "all those yoga Nazis coming after me..." (4+ / 0-)

    ...oooooo, Larry, the yoga Nazis are gonna get you to stretch. They're gonna get you to bend in interesting ways that make you stronger.

    And worst of all...they're gonna get you to breeeeeathe...

    Cheers, doc...

  •  This seems to be a growing theme-Calling liberals (6+ / 0-)

    Nazis. My son, the republican, exploded at me about gun control Nazis. It is an extraordinary rebranding of the real Nazis of WWII era. They were extreme right wingers who actually called women to be mothers and hearth tenders yet Limbaugh calls women who oppose being relegated to sexual property that can only service men--- Feminazis. I understand that the Nazis called themselves socialists but that was only so the party could take over companies to expand thier power.

    It seems to be a real theme and one we should  fight because it ties liberals or progressives to the death camps when that type of behavior is more likely to be favored by right wingers. Right wingers tend to believe they should have the ability to force others to serve me the regressives are the party of exploitation and dominance games. Perhaps that is why it disturbs me to see so many advocate the same behavior on the part of Dems.

    Fear is the Mind Killer...

    by boophus on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 12:50:40 PM PST

    •  Print This Out For Your Son (7+ / 0-)

       Short Guide To Nazi Propaganda Talking Points

      Things The Nazi Were Against:
         Trade unions
         "Social justice"
         "The liberal press"
         "Social Democrats"
         "Civil Rights"
         Liberal "envy"
         Liberal class warfare ("class struggle")
         Religious tolerance
         Mixed marriages
         Sex education
         Bilingual anything
         Universal education
         Art that does not glorify the state
         Darwin and teaching evolution
         Einstein and relativity
         Elementary teachers who don't teach nationalism
         University professors
         People who don't support the troops
         ...and of course Jews

      Things The Nazi Were For:
          Crushing unions (Enabling Act 1933)
          Promising church/state cooperation (Enabling Act announcement)
         State take-over of local government (Reich Local Government Law of 1935)
         Federal regulation of marriage and sex (Nuremberg Laws)
         Pre-emptive war
         State religion
         "Positive Christianity"
         Conspiracy theories
         Undermining voter's faith in elections and parliament
         Reducing history to broad populist themes of white victimization
         Claiming whites are the victims of racist liberals
         A "spiritual" movement that creates ruthless, unwavering violence
         Values education in the schools
         Reducing science education
         College students ratting out professors for lack of loyalty
         Early marriage
         High birth rate
         State control of the media, arts, and science
         Personality cults
         Making nationalism part of the school curriculum
         Worship of an idealized version of the past
         Rebellion against "weak" authority
         Blaming minorities and immigrants for everything
         Invoking destiny and being judged by history
         Pandering to Christians
         Claiming to do "God's will"

      There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

      by bernardpliers on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 01:35:30 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  They were kind of into (0+ / 0-)

        Group exercise and ersatz "Hindu" stuff, however.

        I do yoga, so I can joke.

        Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

        by Loge on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 02:50:45 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  Relentless Pandering To Rural Christians 1920-1934 (0+ / 0-)

          Hitler took power via the Enabling Act in 1933, a constitutional amendment passed with a Christian coalition based on Hitler's promiswe of cooperation of church and state.  He then dispatched an envoy to Rome to negotiate the notorious Concordance treaty with the Vatican.

          There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

          by bernardpliers on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 05:33:50 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  taking this a bit too literally (0+ / 0-)

            of course HItler gained power via conservative churches, but the swastika was what?  Hitler was personally into the whole Bayreuth scene, which appropriated Eastern philosophy in support of the whole Nietzsche / Ubermensch / Siegfried thing.  (Wagner can be blamed for his supporters' anti-semitism, but not their idiocy.)

            Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

            by Loge on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 06:57:08 PM PST

            [ Parent ]

            •  Fascism Is Always Syncretist, As Is Christianity (0+ / 0-)

              Syncretism is a belief system that readily absorbs elements of other systems.  Fascism is always syncretist.  So is Christianity, which absorbed Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Babylonian, and Germanic beliefs or symbols.

              There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

              by bernardpliers on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 07:31:20 PM PST

              [ Parent ]

              •  I know what syncretism means, (0+ / 0-)

                But I think it's more of a practice than a concrete belief system.  Nobody sets out to be syncretism, especially not people who believe in divine revelations or racial purity,they just find it sells.  The soviets and Chinese communists each found much in their countries' tradition from which to draw.

                So, the nazis would have been all over yoga, then and now.  This fox dude's problem is he doesn't know to coopt things, while the mega churches offering yoga or Pilates classes surely do.

                Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

                by Loge on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 08:16:26 PM PST

                [ Parent ]

                •  The Newest Cult Recycles Old Material (0+ / 0-)

                  I have several old diaries on Umberto Eco and Eric Hoffer and Karl Popper.  A cult or movement always need fresh revelations and mysteries, and the easiest way to get material is to steal it.  

                  There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

                  by bernardpliers on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 08:34:53 PM PST

                  [ Parent ]

      •  Fabulous list (0+ / 0-)

        Fear is the Mind Killer...

        by boophus on Fri Jan 04, 2013 at 04:29:15 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  What are our children learning in team sports? (0+ / 0-)
  •  I'm surprised they didn't hit on this aspect: (2+ / 0-)
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    Parents of Encinitas Union School District in southern California have slammed the district’s twice-a-week yoga program, accusing it of religious indoctrination, the North County Times reports.
    On Tuesday, seven parents and a lawyer complained to the district’s trustees, claiming the program encourages Hinduism and violates religious freedom.

    [exception: undefined object]

    by here4tehbeer on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 12:55:59 PM PST

  •  Attention Larry Winget (3+ / 0-)
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    Speaking of ultimate wussification of America, have you taken a glance at Jabba himself, Roger Ailes, lately?

    When was the last time Roger ran a city block? Or glanced at his ever-shrinking wussified manliness?

    And I'm not even going to talk about the tuckable goiter of Bill O'Reilly.

    Not going there, at all!

    Better get back to the web. The internet isn't going to surf itself.

    by RodSerling on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 12:57:44 PM PST

  •  If Liberals do it, it must be effeminate. (3+ / 0-)

    If it is something that polite society used to consider vulgar, it must be manly.

    Hell, I'm a liberal and the older I get, the more I can't stop myself from shedding a tear during an inspirational or sorrowful event.

    I'm also six and a half feet tall and weigh in the mid-250s.  Funny how none of my tough guy conservative friends ever spout any "liberal as wimp" nonsense in my presence.

    Most every bully or apparent bully is a scared little boy. There are a lot of scared little boys armed these days. What could possibly go wrong?

    I believe in democracy, civil liberties, and the rule of law. That makes me a liberal, and I’m proud of it. - Paul Krugman

    by Gentle Giant on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 12:57:49 PM PST

  •  Their ignorance is vast. This is why (0+ / 0-)

    Cantor, the mathematician, is one of my heros. He proved that infinity comes in infinitely many sizes.

  •  Demanding physical sports like golf? (4+ / 0-)

    I'm not sure you even break a sweat playing golf.

    If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

    by Major Kong on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 12:59:25 PM PST

    •  Only if it's 90 degrees or warmer (1+ / 0-)
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      with 90% humidity.

      Oh wait - that happens just standing around.

    •  Tiger woods knew how (0+ / 0-)

      To work up a sweat -  and he's a Buddhist!

      Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

      by Loge on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 02:52:34 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  You obviously know nothing about golf. eom (0+ / 0-)
      •  I didn't say it wasn't difficult (0+ / 0-)

        Just that it's not physically taxing.

        I'd say that fact that you can play into your 80s pretty much proves that. Not too many 80-year-olds actively playing hockey, for example.

        If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

        by Major Kong on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 10:14:51 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  There's a difference between high impact and (0+ / 0-)

          physical taxation.

          People can do things such as running, cycling, and water sports well into advanced age. In the days of grass courts the same could be said for tennis. It's a sport that emphasizes flexibility and fine motor control. Furthermore, a senior player absolutely can not perform at the same level as a similarly skilled player in their prime years. Even a good amateur achieves club speed of over 100 miles per hours multiply that by 50 - 70 times and throw in 5 miles of walking and you've worked up a pretty decent sweat.

  •  More Fox dumbification of America. n/t (0+ / 0-)

    I'm not always political, but when I am I vote Democratic. Stay Democratic, my friends. -The Most Interesting Man in the World

    by boran2 on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 01:11:37 PM PST

  •  More Fox dumbification of America. n/t (0+ / 0-)

    I'm not always political, but when I am I vote Democratic. Stay Democratic, my friends. -The Most Interesting Man in the World

    by boran2 on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 01:11:37 PM PST

  •  These being the people who wouldn't fight in Iraq (3+ / 0-)
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    Major Kong, xxdr zombiexx, Bob Love

    while all but masturbating to the combat footage in their coverage.

    In Roviet Union, money spends YOU.

    by Troubadour on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 01:31:07 PM PST

  •  Sofa warriors brandishing remotes. (1+ / 0-)
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    xxdr zombiexx

    Dick Cheney: five deferments; case closed.

    "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

    by Bob Love on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 02:00:51 PM PST

  •  He is correct that Yoga isn't a sport (3+ / 0-)

    However, that was lost in all the bullshit.  I used to think Yoga was wimpy too, until I took a yoga class and had my ass kicked by the exercise.  I bet these Fox guys couldn't handle a typical yoga workout.

  •  Listen, drop and give me twenty yoga push-ups. (0+ / 0-)

    A yoga push-up (chaturanga, for those of you in the know) is done with your hands close to your body and utilizes your tricep muscles, not your chest.

  •  Just defeat them with (2+ / 0-)
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    I'm part of the "bedwetting bunch of website Democrat base people (DKos)." - Rush Limbaugh, 10/16/2012 Torture is Wrong! We live near W so you don't have to. Send love.

    by tom 47 on Thu Jan 03, 2013 at 03:06:08 PM PST

  •  For NASCAR, there will always be Trucknutz (0+ / 0-)

    Mad Magazine put it well in a "news" piece in which the PGA and NASCAR agreed to refer to each other's members as "athletes".

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