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The Chicago Tribune reported today that Miguel Diaz has resigned as the United States' ambassador to the Vatican.  One of the names being floated as his replacement is Congressman Dan Lipinski of Illinois.  As a progressive committed to electing new and better Democrats, I think this would be an excellent appointment for President Obama to make.  We would get rid of one of Congress' worst remaining Blue Dogs and have a chance to elect a much more progressive Democrat to take his place.

Dan Lipinski has been a constant disappointment right from the start.  You might remember the way he got his seat in the first place.  During the 2004 election cycle, his father, William Lipinski, initially placed his name on the ballot and won the primary election, which was tantamount to victory in November. However, a few months later, Bill withdrew his name from the November general election ballot, announcing that he would retire at the end of his current term. At Bill's urging, state Democratic party leaders named his son, Dan Lipinski, to replace him on the ballot and he has been in Congress ever since.  He is a right-to-lifer, anti-gay, fiscally conservative.  In sum, a real Blue Dog in a state that really does not need to have any.  His district could easily elect a much more progressive Democrat if Dan is not on the ballot.  Join me in urging President Obama to appoint Dan Lipinski our ambassador to the Vatican.  Help give Illinois a chance to elect a new and better Democrat!!

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  •  Frankly, I think he should appoint (7+ / 0-)

    an avowed atheist, but that's just my opinion.

    What is truth? -- Pontius Pilate

    by commonmass on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:04:07 AM PST

    •  Terrible press, terrible politics, for what gain? (0+ / 0-)

      (-2.38, -3.28) Independent thinker

      by TrueBlueDem on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:08:43 AM PST

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      •  honesty, integrity, sending a message (4+ / 0-)

        how about a former prosecutor who pursued the Church in child abuse cases? We have lots of those types in this country.

        What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

        by agnostic on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:38:51 AM PST

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        •  It's a figurehead position and will change nothing (1+ / 0-)
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          And in return Democrats get massive headaches with Catholics. I would like to win Ohio in 2016, would you? Also, not pissing off Latinos would be cool, too.

          If "Ambassador to the Vatican" was some powerful post that would forever reform the practices of the Catholic Church, maybe you roll the dice like that. But for nothing but an empty "F-You!" to the Pope? No thanks.

          (-2.38, -3.28) Independent thinker

          by TrueBlueDem on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:47:06 AM PST

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          •  The day of the empowered diplomat (0+ / 0-)

            sitting in an embassy abroad hasn't been even close to reality for a couple of decades. Not when SecState can punch up a video conference with all the parties at interest. All, or the vast majority of ambassadors are figureheads.

            What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

            by agnostic on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 08:11:45 AM PST

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            •  So you admit (0+ / 0-)

              that appointing a Church antagonizer is all risk, no reward. Nothing would change, in fact the Vatican would simply refuse to meet with the Ambassador and s/he would simply have a 4 year European vacation on our dime.

              (-2.38, -3.28) Independent thinker

              by TrueBlueDem on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 08:38:09 AM PST

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              •  ALL ambassadors get 4 yr vacations, but for (1+ / 0-)
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                a few who are residing in war zones or extremely nasty areas.

                The Vatican has repeatedly interfered in our electoral system. Especially when it orders its pedophile priests to instruct the sheeple how to vote (against Democrats). You think that those cardinals and bishops did that on their own? Hardly.

                Why not return the favor? They've earned precisely that kind of scorn and statement.
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                Oh noes! The Catholics will rebel and complain about the attack on their religion! Oh noes, the Church will take stances against the Democrats!
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                The Vatican is currently led by The Rat, a creep (I am not even considering his nazi ties, if they were true) that protected pedophiles, who transfered them away from litigation, who hid and shredded docs, who ordered destruction of evidence, who controlled every aspect of child abuse litigation across the world. And we need to treat this asshole with respect and honor?

                Sorry, not I. Never.

                What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

                by agnostic on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 08:59:17 AM PST

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          •  Winning Ohio in 2016 (2+ / 0-)
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            will have bupkus to do with who is ambassador to the Vatican. I assure you this is not a foreground issue here — although it might be if the appointee is someone who pursued church child abuse cases. That would work in the Democrats' favor because so many Catholics here have a jaded opinion of the hierarchy over this issue among many others.

            Jon Husted is a dick.

            by anastasia p on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 08:30:57 AM PST

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            •  heh, check out Ireland and how it has (2+ / 0-)
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              switched from "Very Catholic" to disbelief in a catholic god and anger at the whole establishment.

              Tens of thousands of boys and girls, tortures, sodomized, fucked, beaten, and if they dared complain, their treatment and abuse got worse.

              What was the Rat's first response? to have his white collar storm troopers attack those who complained.

              What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

              by agnostic on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 09:01:18 AM PST

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  •  I wonder what Rep. Lynch's favorite vacay spot is (1+ / 0-)
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    (-2.38, -3.28) Independent thinker

    by TrueBlueDem on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:07:31 AM PST

  •  why not appoint WOMAN as Vat Ambassador (5+ / 0-)

    one who refuses to wear a head scarf and will wear pants in the presence of this misogynistic cabal?  Show them that we believe in equality.

    Its high time we had a WOMAN AS VATICAN AMBASSADOR

    Any one else agree?

    We Must DISARM THE NRA The next life you save may be ONE OF YOUR OWN!

    by SeaTurtle on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:12:22 AM PST

  •  Here's the link to the article: (0+ / 0-)

    (-2.38, -3.28) Independent thinker

    by TrueBlueDem on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:13:04 AM PST

  •  how about NO ambasador to 110 acre papal palace (3+ / 0-)
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    its only 110 acres , has no nukes, and is a hold over from the dark ages

  •  Lipinski will never do it...his old man is a (3+ / 0-)
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    transportation lobbyist who literally shares office space with Dan. The whole Lipinski operation is one big racket to send rail dollars to the district. They are old school, Daley-style machine Dems and corrupt as they come.

    We'd be lucky if we could ship him off to another corrupt entity like the Vatican, but would be surprised if he'd go for it.

    •  Frankly, Ole Danny Boy would be shocked (3+ / 0-)

      if he spent time there. Here, he's been learning political corruption at the feet of his dad and other Old Chicago styled pols. Imagine the education he'd receive by living near the Vatican, seeing political intrigue and corruption employed with a vengeance by folks that have 2000 years of practice in deceit, crimes, and true application of power.   It would put his current  feeble criminal efforts to shame.

      Upon his return, we'd have someone so well trained, so evil, so effective, that we would be properly worried about his future plans.

      What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

      by agnostic on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:45:21 AM PST

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      •  A lovely summary of the institution of the (2+ / 0-)
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        Vatican/Roman Catholic Church. Thanks!

        Now if we can just convince American Catholics to walk out the doors and pull their money from this institution, the world may finally see its demise into the trashbin of history, where it belongs.

        By the way, for those who will cry foul on my comment... I am talking about the institution, not the believers or their beliefs. I could call those out too, but that's another discussion. In America, we tolerate the right to worship and to have a place to do so. So why don't American Catholics just start their own churches and free themselves from being complicit in the corruption of the Vatican by continuing to prop it up?

  •  Great idea (0+ / 0-)

    But I can't see why Lipinski would accept. At 46, he could easily stay in Congress for another 20 or 30 years. After four years in Rome, what would he do next?

  •  Link? (0+ / 0-)

    Where is the article you cited?

  •  Send Ray Flynn back there (0+ / 0-)

    Before he endorses Scott Brown again for the next Senate race in MA.  He did a great job kowtowing to them last time he was there, I'm sure he'd do just as well now.

    Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear. ~William E. Gladstone, 1866

    by absdoggy on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 07:35:49 AM PST

  •  The fact that the United States of America (0+ / 0-)

    not only recognizes the Vatican as a country but also sends an ambassador to it is proof positive that we have moved far beyond the wall of separation of church and state built so carefully by our founders.

    Jefferson and Madison and the rest would be appalled at this, but it sure doesn't seem to bother the "original intent" crowd.

    If Ireland had the balls to deconnect their ambassador relationship with the Vatican over the abuse issue, why can't the country with the SECULAR Constitution do it?

    •  Two points.. (0+ / 0-)

      Papal sovereignty over Vatican City is a fact. Refusing to recognize that is denial, not rationality.

      Sometimes it's as important to have an ambassador in place with folks we DONT approve of as it is with those we do.

      •  In case you hadn't noticed (0+ / 0-)

        we don't have ambassadors to any other religious institution in the world, and we don't allow any other country that we send ambassadors to the right to veto our choices for that position.  In essence, the Vatican is the only place that is allowed to have a say over who our government chooses to be the ambassador, and they have exercised that exclusive right. Which means that our government allows a religious institution to tell us how to run our government.

        So anyone who is chosen to be ambassador to the Vatican from the US is HANDPICKED by the Vatican itself and guarantees that this person will not have an unbiased approach to his job (there won't ever be a "her" ambassador to the Vatican).

  •  I nominate PZ Myers (n/t) (1+ / 0-)
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    Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

    by milkbone on Thu Jan 10, 2013 at 08:15:25 AM PST

  •  I take issue with one thing (0+ / 0-)

    Lipper the Lesser is not a disappointment. He was a crap "appointment" for that seat right from the start, and everyone knew it.

    You also didn't mention his residency issues, spending his time in Nashville working at Vanderbilt University.

  •  Barney Frank as Ambassador to the Vatican! (0+ / 0-)

    After he finished his summer school in the Senate.

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