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As Robots take over most other kinds of what we presently call “work” (a takeover that is starting to get much attention by economists,
per: http://economistsview.typepad.com/...),

And as the challenges facing teachers continue to mount (per recent Dkos diaries: http://www.dailykos.com/... and http://www.dailykos.com/...),

Could we encourage all knowledgeable people to engage in part-time teaching, and

Couldn’t this accomplish the following?

1.    Reduce teacher-student ratios down towards 3:1 or even 2:1 (wouldn’t small tutorials like those of Oxford U. be even more valuable for primary and secondary students than for University students?)

2.    Increase each student’s number of subjects and teachers up to or past a few dozen per year (resulting in more chances for discovery of each student’s particular interests and talents, and exposure to more variety of subjects, perspectives and adult personalities).

3.    Reduce the related pressure and fatigue (making it more attractive to older people).

4.    Refine the knowledge of the people doing the teaching (the best way to refine and retain what you know is to explain it in various ways until it is understood by somebody else).

5.    Enable full-time professional teachers to focus more on the essential function of helping students integrate what they learn from this variety of subjects and teachers.

6.    Teach our young to be people, rather than to be computers (if emulation is a major element of learning, then won’t computer-taught students emulate computers?).

Originally posted to emorej a Hong Kong on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 08:44 PM PST.

Also republished by In Support of Labor and Unions.

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  •  What can you teach a robot that he doesn't already (0+ / 0-)

    know?

    And who the hell is Grover Norquist???

    by ZedMont on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 08:51:50 PM PST

  •  What is really needed (0+ / 0-)

    Is a stronger drive to breakthrough science.   I mean this seriously.  

    Despite all the fears here in the US, we are still the global leader in patents, Nobel Prize winners, breakthrough science.. but we could do much more.  

    Breakthrough science is its own reward and as robotics takes over industries, it gives us a chance to develop the next generation that can design better robotics.   Better circuitry.  Next generation math.  Astronomy.  SCIENCE.

    Teaching is part of it, that's true, but another part of it is building the technological base that can say: this is the next generation thing that can do X.  

    Imagine someone comes up with a true breakthrough in micro-organic energy cells that largely replace vehicular power?   Or a micro-nuclear energy.   Or develop a pollutant capture system.

    All possible, all with theories.   Would just take the right minds to figure it out.   Teaching.  Colleges.  Science.  Results.

    That's the method.

    Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

    by Chris Reeves on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 08:52:49 PM PST

    •  Wouldn't graduates of the diary-proposed tutorials (0+ / 0-)

      be better-prepared to accomplish breakthrough science?

    •  Maybe You've Never Led a Marching Band. (1+ / 0-)
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      I have.

      You're describing a world where the marching bands have a drum major and cheerleaders, 4 bassoon players and flag bearers.

      As they march past, the audience downloads the entire rest of the band off the web from the 3rd world.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 08:58:23 PM PST

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      •  This marching band metaphor is not clear to me (1+ / 0-)
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      •  Totally disagree but get your point (0+ / 0-)

        I think you're seeing it as though one excludes the other.  But it doesn't.  Scientific focus has often also resulted in the greatest booms in the arts.  

        Plays and theater, music and operas have all been written at a time where the aspirations are set high.  

        But the aspirations of arts are hard to quantify.. but when you start to leap ahead anywhere - which is something that can be done, it means you get advances everywhere.

        Whether we want to admit it or not, as robotics and other things come along, we will have to find new ways to both deliver jobs as well as the next generation research that tops the current.   That has been true since the invention of the wheel.

        We can't stop the 3rd world country from downloading whatever they want.   But we can setup the environment where the art that we creates continues to expand in ways that we can't always imagine.

        Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

        by Chris Reeves on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 09:06:51 PM PST

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        •  Science & Art not in opposition (2+ / 0-)
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          Re:

          Scientific focus has often also resulted in the greatest booms in the arts.
          ... and haven't artistic booms often also resulted in booms in science?  
          •  Yes (0+ / 0-)

            But here's the thing.. it's hard, from a governmental force to say "I expect a Sistine Chapel" ... but it was the creation of the ability for faster drying paints and the resources that made that art possible.

            In the end, artistic inspiration and scientific inspiration go hand in hand.   They can encourage each other.   But we can't really determine what happens with art.. and so the first domino in many cases is science.

            When it is art - and that does happen - it often comes unexpectedly or as a matter of unique surprise.   From the Beatles to Davinci.

            Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

            by Chris Reeves on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 09:15:09 PM PST

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          •  And now that routine work in science is so (0+ / 0-)

            automated,

            the people who are best prepared to direct that automated work in the directions of breakthroughs

            will be people whose education has included varied perspectives and the ability to integrate and imagine.

          •  From what I have seen (0+ / 0-)

            The art usually comes first when it comes to new ideas and innovation.

            Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

            by splashy on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 02:32:12 AM PST

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      •  Makes Me Want To Post A Link (1+ / 0-)
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        or two from "The Golden Band From Tiger Land" (that would be LSU). I am not sure you have ever Googled their stuff, but pretty sure they flat out rock.

        Oh here is one video:

        We make videos about our band.

        When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

        by webranding on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 09:07:48 PM PST

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  •  The Actionable Question is: Can Our Owners Use (0+ / 0-)

    robots to teach most people most of what our owners need most people to do for them?

    The answer almost certainly is "eventually, yes."

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 08:55:07 PM PST

    •  Yes, teaching students to emulate computers may (0+ / 0-)

      be more of a feature than a bug in the view of some of our owners.

      If Kossacks and other Progressives can popularize an alternative view that students should be taught to be people, rather than economic units,

      then this alternative view could help support push-back on the goals of education, and help justify the diary's proposal to involve many more teachers in it.

  •  That means speaking the bad word.... (0+ / 0-)

    redistribution.

    Yes, robotics does not exist without advanced education. It requires a combination of skills in various fields of engineering and computer programming. The good old Titans of Industry are spoiled that they can reap the benefits of this advanced level of education without directly investing in it, but that is not sustainable in the long term.

    At some point, in order to maintain a labor force that enables this cheap manufacturing, they will have to invest in the educational level required for people to develop and maintain these systems.

    They have few choices in how to do so.... they can make agreements with labor for apprenticeship, like the construction sector does, or pay a hell of a lot more in taxes to subsidize education. Otherwise they are doomed to an unskilled labor pool, and the few who have the skills will demand such high wages that they will be unaffordable.

  •  teaching, too, is being taken over by robots (0+ / 0-)

    or have you missed the push for on-line courses at the college level?

    "Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom." -- Thomas Jefferson

    by pianogramma on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 06:34:04 AM PST

    •  Emulate (variety of) human teachers-not computers (0+ / 0-)

      I haven't overlooked this push, but I think that it will have bad results, contrary to the diary's point 6, as follows:

      6.    Teach our young to be people, rather than to be computers (if emulation is a major element of learning, then won’t computer-taught students emulate computers?).

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