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How much area would a 32,000 acre tar sand mine cover?  

US Sands Inc states

The foregoing information contains forward-looking information relating to the future performance of the Company including information relating to the development and construction of the PR Spring Project and the commencement of commercial production.

The Company is in the pre-production stage, anticipating the commencement of bitumen production and sales in 2013.

...has a 100% interest in bitumen leases covering 32,005 acres of land in Utah’s Uinta basin.

A picture is worth a thousand words.  32,000 acres is equal to 50 square miles.    The four squares in this Google Earth view equal 32,000 acres.  Notice a bend of the Colorado River is in the lower, right hand corner.

P R Springs, Red Box - 50 sq miles:32,000 acres

P R Spring, Ut didn't show up when I search on Google Earth; however, I did find this site that shows the longitude and latitude of P R Spring, Utah.

Geocode for P R Spring: Latitude: 39.462471 - Longitude: -109.2831729
For those of you who have experienced dropping into Utah from the heights of Grand Junction, picture the peaceful desert transitioning into a tar scarred waste land.  Picture Alberta, Canada's new, look-alike sister territory:  Eastern Utah

Utah Sands Inc will immediately begin mining 213 acres.
Keep in mind:  This is just one of 5 already-authorized Tar Sand projects in Utah. <--Click to find a trove of research and proof

They are:

U.S. Oil Sands, Calgary, Alberta Canada

MCW Enterprises

KTIA/Crown Asphalt Ridge LLC (CAR LLC)  BANKRUPT, AUCTION 2/25/2013  

KTIA & Crown Asphalt Ridge Bankruptcy Auction 1

Temple Mountain Energy


In addition to the above, 88 "OIL, GAS AND ASSOCIATED HYDROCARBONS LEASING UNITS" were put on the market by the State of Utah on October 4, 2012.

Stunningly, the 32,000 acre tar sands lease was deemed by the State to "not pose any threat to groundwater" even though it is adjacent to the Colorado River.

Here are a few more pictures of existing tar sand mines and their proximity to Vernal, Utah and the Green River, which flows into the Colorado River.

Tar Sands located in Utah
Utah Tar Sand Areas

Leased Utah Tar Sand areas to date
Utah Leased Tar Sand Areas

Maps show proximity of Utah Tar Sand leases to Green & White Rivers
Utah Tar Sand Leases w:Google Earth view incuded

Asphalt Ridge is the area with "low hanging fruit" that has been providing asphalt products for years.

Overview of Asphalt Ridge and surrounding areas

Tar Sand Mine approx 7 miles South of Vernal

Tar Sand mine 7 Miles South of Vernal, 1.5 miles north of the banks of the Green River

Tar Sand Mine 1.45 Miles North of Green River

Close up of above
Tar Sands 7 miles S of Vernal, up close 2006

Tar Sand Mining Near Homes located in Vernal, Utah
Tar Sand Mining Near Homes 2006 Vernal Utah

There is no "clean" tar sand bitumen processing anymore than there is a clean coal process.

Here are a few videos showing extraction and processing in Utah.

Digging for tar sand


2009 KITIA Production

2012 CAR LLC

What will the Uintah Basin look like in 5 or 10 years?

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  •  If they had to pay enough taxes to... (12+ / 0-) the damage to the environment, they would not do it.

    I thought the Mormons were smarter, then again Romney was a Mormon and Utah is about as red a state as they come.

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 02:47:00 PM PST

  •  Millions of people depend on that water (13+ / 0-)

    The tar is not worth as much as the water.

    This is crazy corruption. It should not be allowed.

    look for my eSci diary series Thursday evening.

    by FishOutofWater on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 02:55:28 PM PST

  •  Think of the collapse of all these oil schemes (8+ / 0-)

    if they find a way to make Cellulose Based Ethanol and Cellulose/Seaweed Based Butanol Fuel that seems can be used in Gasoline Engines with little or no modifications unlike with Ethanol.

    •  unfortunately (3+ / 0-)
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      the large scale cellulose ethanol production plants  have struggled.  IIRC, one in Georgia went bankrupt.

      Orly, it isn't evidence just because you downloaded it from the internet.

      by 6412093 on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 03:48:05 PM PST

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      •  That was Range Fuels (4+ / 0-)
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        The ground breaking for that plant was in 2007. It sounds as if they had trouble raising money after the crash and their goals seem to have changed during the duration of the project from methanol to ethanol.

        Dateline 01/24/2011

        On the other hand there have been advances made the enzymes used in more recent years.
        Dateline October 30, 2012

        Harnessing Novozymes as a partner in Beta Renewables will allow combined solutions that will cut the financial and technological risk of new cellulosic biofuel projects, making them more “bankable and accelerating large-scale commercialization of the industry,” said M&G chairman and chief executive Guido Ghisolfi.

        The company’s cellulosic ethanol plant–the world’s largest–in Crescentino, Italy, will come on line by the end of this year. It already has a deal to build a manufacturing plant in Brazil and recently obtained a U.S. government loan guarantee to build a plant in North Carolina. Management expects Monday’s deal will lead to another 25 new facilities being contracted within the next five years.

        Others have simply gotten old. I prefer to think I've been tempered by time.

        by Just Bob on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 06:12:47 PM PST

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  •  Hey Grandpa ...... Mom said you told her ...... (8+ / 0-)

    of a time when rivers and lakes didn't have that rainbow shiny stuff on top. And ... and ..... there where real fish and crawdads and creepy-crawlys in it. Is that true paw-paw?

    Well.... it used to be that way buddy. That was a long time ago when paw-paw was your age. Now come back away from the bank, some of that stuff will burn your skin.

    Oh well, the Koch Dynasty grandkids will have their constantly filtered "fresh" water ponds and artificial streams on the estate grounds. So there's that.

  •  The Lake Athabasca fishing video.... (4+ / 0-)

    .... made me ill!

    Man, I thought Canadians were smarter than this!

  •  God, this makes me ill (5+ / 0-)

    I do recall leaving Grand Junction and coming into Utah, one of the most wonderful, empty spaces where one could breathe free, slowed down to wave at a Basque sheepherder who returned my wave with a big smile.

    It even hurts physically to think of the brutal rape of such beautiful lands.

    I sign every petition that comes my way to save these places. It just breaks my heart.

  •  The photo with the foreign writing, I believe that (1+ / 0-)
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    place may be the one referred to in the Tribune today as being for sale at bankruptcy auction. On the legal notices page of the business section there is an outfit one part owner of which is Korea Technology Industry that is now officially belly up. Requires a "refundable $1,000,000 earnest money deposit to bid on the operating assets". Not big time, would be my instant analysis.

    I've also seen something that said that the Estonian oil shale outfit has bit off more than it can chew on it's proposed Utah operation. There seem to be different qualities of tar sands and oil shales, and Utah stuff is geologically more primitive than places where successful extraction has been possible.

    There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

    by oldpotsmuggler on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 05:47:30 PM PST

    •  Great catch! What does this mean? (0+ / 0-)

      Did you just happen upon this information today?

      Here's the KTIA (Korea Technology Industry of America and Crown Asphalt Ridge, LLC Bankruptcy auction notice

      KTIA & Crown Asphalt Ridge Bankruptcy Auction 1

      It's difficult to be happy knowing so many suffer. We must unite.

      by War on Error on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 09:13:57 PM PST

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      •  This is interesting (0+ / 0-)

        Korea Technology Industry America, Inc. (“KTIA”),

        Uintah Basin Resources, LLC (“UBR”), and

        Crown Asphalt Ridge, LLC, (“CAR”)

        all of

        1245 East Brickyard Road,
        Brickyard Tower,
        Suite 110,
        Salt Lake City, Utah 84106.

        KTIA, UBR, and CAR are sometimes hereinafter referred to collectively as “Sellers” or, individually, as “Seller”, and sometimes hereinafter referred to collectively as the “KTIA Group”.

        These three entities, now bankrupt, shared the same address in Salt Lake?


        It's difficult to be happy knowing so many suffer. We must unite.

        by War on Error on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 09:25:26 PM PST

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        •  Another document (0+ / 0-)


          This Assignment, Bill of Sale and Conveyance ("Conveyance") dated effective ___, 2012 is by and between Korea Technology Industry America, Inc., 1245 East Brickyard Road, Brickyard Tower, Suite 110, Salt Lake City, Utah 84106 ("KTIA"), Uintah Basin Resources, LLC, 1245 East Brickyard Road, Brickyard Tower, Suite 110, Salt Lake City, Utah 84106 ("UBR"), and Crown Asphalt Ridge, LLC, 1245 East Brickyard Road, Brickyard Tower, Suite 110, Salt Lake City, Utah 84106 ("CAR"), herein referred to as "Grantors", and Rutter and Wilbanks Corporation, P.O. Box 3186, Midland Texas 79702, hereinafter referred to as "Grantee", with Grantors and Grantee hereinafter sometimes being referred to jointly as "Parties".

          It's difficult to be happy knowing so many suffer. We must unite.

          by War on Error on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 09:26:31 PM PST

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      •  I'm sorry, I just glanced at this out of the blue (1+ / 0-)
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        and then saw your post. I didn't go any further because, to me, the salient point was that this project obviously had backing ("$1,000,000 earnest money deposit") and proved to not be viable. I'm extrapolating from that (reasonably, I believe) that the potential here is being hyped. I've watched so much of this shit come and go over the last 40 years that this was just a ho hum moment.

        The Brickyard thing seems to me to likely be a Registered agent for Service of Process situation, fairly routine from what little is shown. You'd have to research each entity individually (and on from there if need be) to know if this was anything other than just a normal business and financing structuring arrangement.

        On the face of it, one clear possibility is an attempt to sucker in investors, but the auction seems to be being conducted under the auspices of the Bankruptcy Court, so I believe that that has either been looked at and discounted, or is still being looked by someone who matters.

        To me, it looks like an ordinary "car wreck", with the caveat that there should be visibly less hype over Utah tar sands in the near future.

        There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

        by oldpotsmuggler on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 09:41:27 AM PST

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        •  All good points (0+ / 0-)

          My commodity broker friend was chuckling at his naive clients who wanted in on tar sands and shale oil back in the early 1980s.

          What came to mind for me is this.

          U S Tar sands has 32,000 acres just authorized.  Could it be possible that the KTIA/Crown bankruptcy could provide US Sands with a cheap way to buy into the already existing processing facility and tar sand leases owned by KTIA/Crown?  And could it be possible that KTIA/Crown could become part of US Sands in Utah?

          I believe this is a very harmful development for Eastern Utah.

          What a shame if the land is scarred by an investment boondoggle.

          It's difficult to be happy knowing so many suffer. We must unite.

          by War on Error on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 10:28:45 AM PST

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          •  Realistically, the odds are that the outfit (1+ / 0-)
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            shopped what they had everywhere before accepting the last resort of a BK filing (and nothing changes, really, even on the off chance that a creditor forced their hand). There is no possibility, in my mind, that U.S. TS is unaware of what's happening with any and all competitors in this area. They would have had a chance to buy the Intellectual Property, it seems to me, and passed on it. Because if it was really valuable, and they bought it, there would likely already be some sort of a joint venture, rather than a flat out failure.

            U.S. TS knows what's going on here, and has something up their sleeve, but I truly do not think that it involves the public being able to take what they say as the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

            At the Summit, there seemed to be a ready, though not openly spoken, acknowledgement that this whole thing is still no better than a crap shoot. I still don't see anything that has changed since the Seventies.

            There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

            by oldpotsmuggler on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 11:36:57 AM PST

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            •  Thanks again (0+ / 0-)

              Based on the vids in this diary

              Eastern Utah Will Be the New Alberta: 5 TAR SANDS Projects!

              KTIA/CAR spent a small fortune on upgrading the processing plant in January, 2012.  In hindsight, I guess they went for broke.

              I also gathered, perhaps incorrectly, that the processing time far exceeds the tar sands mining process which left me envisioning piles of tar sands waiting to be churned into froth, which might end up being processed in the SLC refineries.

              Also, isn't it widely known that

              1.  It takes a barrel of oil to produce two barrels of tar sand oil; and

              2.  It takes a lot of water to process; and

              3.  The waste is highly toxic after processing.

              Well, I do know that eastern Utah has already been massively fracked with thousands more recently licenced, so what further harm can tar sands create?  Well, other than the ugliness and horrid odor.  I think the fracking will doom the Green and White Rivers.  I hope I am wrong.

              I know of a truck driver that leaves from Spanish Fork everyday, drives to the Uintah basin, picks up toxic sand, delivers it somewhere in the Uintah basin, and then drives back to Spanish Fork.  He has to use special "entry into the area" code.   It is rumored he smells like an oil change guy at Jiffy Lube after his truck run.  The amount of diesel fuel and expense for just that one truck run everyday has to be deducted from the oil output numbers, imo.

              It's difficult to be happy knowing so many suffer. We must unite.

              by War on Error on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 12:04:02 PM PST

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              •  I'm glad that this is your project and not mine (1+ / 0-)
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                because the first thing I would have to do is spend a day driving to Vernal, all around asphalt ridge, and back. Not possible for me. Anyway, the existence of the BK tells me not to waste the effort. (By the way, did you see this one ?)

                The only thing ever pulled out of asphalt ridge so far is asphalt, and that makes roads and parking lots. It won't go in a pipeline, it won't go in a tank truck, and it won't go in a refinery. Nor can it feasibly be made to.

                U.S. TS is a different story, but I don't see a different ending. Between water supply, environmental pollution, and environmentalist legal resistance nothing short of a true national emergency is going to get any tar sands or oil shale developed in Utah. The more routine oil and natural gas, yes (and that is every bit the problem that you detail), but this exotic stuff, no.

                There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

                by oldpotsmuggler on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 08:28:01 PM PST

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