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and kossacks who tend have tendencies and inclinations to find fault in Obama in almost everything he does or he does not do,

I understand why you feel the way you usually feel and why you take the skeptical angles in lots of things regarding our society. I understand why you write about the issues you are passionate about. There are no doubt problems with the administration on those issues (civil liberties, education, drugs, to say the least).

However, there are big problems regarding your approach to the administration and some (just some I say) of your substance on the issues you tend to be the most critical of. I write this diary with the best intentions. Please read everything thoroughly and be kind.

First of all,

Try harder to write from a point of understanding when you criticize or be skeptical. Also, please respect/acknowledge other progressives' viewpoints taking a benefit of the doubt approach to Obama.  For example, Cornell West and Cenk Uygur vitrolically criticize Obama and try to convince us everyday that Obama is terrible in this way or another. Vitrolic progressive critics such as them need to realize that they do NOT speak for all progressives. They do not speak for me.  Please realize that 80-90% of liberals approve of Obama in polls. The overwhelming majority of progressives think Obama's ideology is just right. Those who think he is too conservative is 5% or less.

Second of all,

It is not acknowledged by some critics that Obama made it clear in his 2008 speech that you will not agree with his decisions all the time. There would be frustrations, false starts, and mistakes. I am not trying to say that you should excuse them or keep quiet. However, you should have come with fair expectations, tried to be understanding of him, and fair to him when you need to be critical. Try to have a little more respect in Obama's decision making, even when it is not easy.

Third of all,

There were no doubt reasons to be frustrated with Obama on wall street accountability, civil liberties, education, LGBT rights issues (at start), marijuana, and his initial governing style of trying to bring people together. However, I really feel that he has been misrepresented at times, unappreciated, and blamed too much quite a bit. There is a lot of context/other bigger things regarding Obama's bad points. There are a lot of other things that need blame too in those particular issues, not just Obama. It is important to hold Obama to highest standards because we need the best from him, no sugarcoating. However, we must do so in a way that is as fair as possible.

If we were to try it your way of finding fault in Obama in every angle possible, then you would not be happy at all with FDR, JFK, LBJ, and Jimmy Carter.

Here is a diarist who wrote about how similar your vitrolic criticism of Hillary Clinton and Obama is similar to FDR's back in his day. I respect puakev very deeply. He is tough on Obama but he always is fair and tries to bring everyone on this site together. He inspires me.

http://www.dailykos.com/...

I refer you to my diary to get a deeper insight/analysis in those specific issues and situations that have really caused vitrolic criticism of Obama.

http://www.dailykos.com/...

 In summation, I kindly ask you to try to be more understanding/respectful of those who are not inclined to be vitrolic critics of Obama. I am trying to be more understanding of people's perspectives better each and every day.

Thank you.

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  •  tldr: grow up & join the real world (4+ / 0-)

    Cornell West and Cenk Uygur might try remembering Obama is neither dictator nor their personal incarnation of liberalism.

    Basically, there is a section of our society that thinks the President can do anything, and should do exactly what they want. Kind of like a 2-year-old thinks about their parent.

    As it turns out, not all of those people are Republicans.

  •  Count me in for finding fault with this. (10+ / 0-)

    Because it's a matter of life and death for many people.

    Spending savings from superlative CPI with protections for vulnerable.
    So you understand that perspective, right?  Right?
  •  What kind of (8+ / 0-)

    'sugar coated' shit is this? Hey this is a democracy and people are supposed to speak up and demand representation, the upholding of our sacred documents and the common good. Good god of course he's not a dictator he's a freaking pol who's agenda and ideology is anything but democratic let alone Democratic. What's the matter with you telling me and other 'vitriolic' loud mouth liberals to STFU and cloaking this as be kind. Maybe the so called New Democrat's, who have taken us to this place where abuse of executive power is now legal and bankster's like Lew run our economy? While Obama is not a dictator he sure as hell does not deserve respect or kindness for his betrayal of the Democratic party.

    He's just a politician who has bait and switched the electorate into giving the Dems power in this era of insanity.  You should stop admonishing people for not buying his double speak or his undemocratic  'way forward'.

    I refuse to go into your using past Democratic administrations to rationalize or give false validity to this administrations nasty ass agenda. Since when are politics 'kind' or since when is respect given to an executive that is the front man for an agenda that promotes everything the Democratic party has fought against.

    Sure you can pick apart the pols in power from day one in the history of our flawed democracy. Obama actually takes the cake as far as demolishing the party that has historically offered a real populist and democratic difference. Not to mention the destruction to the rule of law or the liberal opposition to the Bush regime. How ever you cut it historically the Bushies we're the culmination of the dark side. We now are supposed to call the dark the light?

    You would not know progress if it bit you, instead you prefer the PR dude that spouted we are the change, bottom up and audacity but worked hard to implement oligarchical collectivism. He has has convinced many that this corporate viscous anti-democratic  global economy and endless war in the name of the GWOT is not only inevitable but the Way Forward and Democratic.

    Where's my habeas corpus?            

    •  What a load of delusional crap (3+ / 0-)
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      Gooserock, sreeizzle2012, glorificus

      and a sad response to a very reasonable diary.  

      Because of Barack Obama, gay and lesbian people can serve in the military openly for the first time in history.  Not only that, he is the first president in history to endorse marriage equality (in an election year no less).  He also extended benefits to same sex partners of federal employees.

      Because of Barack Obama, insurance companies will soon not be able to deny insurance for a preexisting condition.  Not only that, their profits are currently limited to 15%-20% of their revenue.  Not only that, but Medicaid is expanded to all up to 133% of the poverty level.

      Because of Barack Obama, there are now three women on the Supreme Court, including the first Latina justice in history.  Not only that, he signed legislation to enable women to fight in court against discriminatory pay.  Not only that, he has expanded funding for the Violence against Women Act.

      Your assessment of Barack Obama's record is frankly dead wrong.

      And, actually this is a "fan club."  This is a Democratic website where we support Democrats.  It doesn't mean we are never critical; but it does mean that we should be fair and measured in our criticisms, just as the diarist has suggested.

      "I am pro choice. My opponent [Mitt Romney] is multiple choice." - Ted Kennedy

      by darboy on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 03:47:23 PM PST

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      •  Well It's For ELECTING Democrats, so the Period (3+ / 0-)
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        sreeizzle2012, angel d, shaharazade

        immediately after an election is the time to be most critical of politicians because there's no immediate risk from it.

        And since the site is also about better Democrats, the criticism of existing Dems and organizing to develop better candidates and issues are also fair at this point in the cycle. Needed, in fact.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 04:08:00 PM PST

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      •  Hey I don't do (1+ / 0-)
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        Shahryar

        Fan Clubs for either pop stars or pols never have never will. Electoral politics are a means to an end not blind support for any pol regardless of which party they fly under. Listen to yourself, this is very undemocratic and frankly exactly why this current lot of crooks, killers and assorted anti-democratic pols get away with their mendacity.

        Any time you tell people that party loyalty and idolizing, being a fan of a politician, putting party and a pol before our country's common good and the universal law, the Great Writ or the basic principles of human and civil rights,  you've lost me as a citizen or a voter. I'm a life long Democrat but if my party stops being a vehicle that I can support at a basic level then it's not worth supporting. Ass backward cart before the horse politics that my be better then the Republican's but are in no way supportable.

        Your list of Obama's accomplishments is so delusional and twisted it's laughable and sad. This isn't about Obama it's about the demise of our party and the democratic republic I believe in, flawed as it was. If this site demands that  Democrat's and liberals must genuflect and  kiss the ring of Obama then perhaps it is no longer democratic or Democratic.  

           

        •  Or maybe it is, and you are the delusional one. (1+ / 0-)
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          sreeizzle2012

          *There are two sides to every horseshit.* Kos

          by glorificus on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 08:14:51 PM PST

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        •  I agree (3+ / 0-)
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          Obama is a pretty horrible president if you ignore everything good that he's done.

          What I have listed are real progressive accomplishments (against unprecedented partisan opposition, I might add) and you have nothing that shows otherwise.  And I'm sorry you think the equal rights of gays and lesbians are "laughable" and "delusional".  

          You reject Obama because he is not 100% pure, just like the Tea Party does to Republican candidates, which will ultimately lead to the irrelevance of the Republican Party.  It is already happening; Karl Rove is already gearing up to fight back against the Tea Party's influence.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Tea Party forms a third party soon.

          Let's not do the same thing to our candidates, our party, and our movement.

          "I am pro choice. My opponent [Mitt Romney] is multiple choice." - Ted Kennedy

          by darboy on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 05:43:52 AM PST

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    •  Nowhere in my (0+ / 0-)

      diary did I say

      "do not criticize"

      nowhere in my diary did I say

      "do not hold accountable"

      just be fair, measured, and honest.

      A lot of what you wrote for example is just not true.

      Furthermore, I asked for people to respond kindly.

      Why is that so hard?

  •  And can you try (6+ / 0-)

    to understand that it is the duty of the electorate to hold its leaders to account.

  •  what is this? Did OFA get the word out? (7+ / 0-)

    seems like there's a rash of lefty-bashing today. Why, exactly, would you post this? Do you want a few diaries "mildly chastizing" Obama worshippers? Telling them what they should do and how they should feel?

    Seriously, what's your point?

  •  Uh... (3+ / 0-)
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    The overwhelming majority of progressives think Obama's ideology is just right. Those who think he is too conservative is 5% or less.
    Please define "progressives." Even under the most liberal definition of "progressives," I'm hard pressed to imagine only 5% of us view his ideology as too conservative.

    Absent credible polling supporting your "5%" assertion, may I respectfully suggest you return that particular data point to the place where it's least likely to get a sunburn.

    Don't tell me what you believe; show me the excuses you make for Barack Obama, and I will tell you what you believe.

    by WisePiper on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 05:19:41 PM PST

  •  I don't know why sreeizzle even tried. The (2+ / 0-)
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    CwV, sreeizzle2012

    "Obama isn't doing things exactly as I wanted so he must be stopped" bunch will pay no attention to anything except their whining until naptime.

    Perfect example of how Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    *There are two sides to every horseshit.* Kos

    by glorificus on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 08:17:33 PM PST

  •  Thanks for the kind words (1+ / 0-)
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    sreeizzle2012

    “Th’ noise ye hear is not th’ first gun iv a revolution. It’s on’y th’ people iv the United States batin’ a carpet.” - Mr. Dooley

    by puakev on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 11:14:02 PM PST

  •  recced (0+ / 0-)

    For awesome snarkiness.  This is a parody of ardent Obama supporters with schoolboy crushes  right?

    •  I wrote this diary (1+ / 0-)
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      How Much

      thinking about people like you and trying to be as respectful as possible. Lots of commenters got what I meant to say. You did not.

      My diary was merely just a suggestion/request to try to be fair to Obama when criticizing him and be respectful of others who are not inclined to harshly criticize Obama in almost everything he does.

      Be honest as well.

      You and other bloggers have sometimes not been truthful of the president, not acknowledged key contexts, and blamed him too much for a lot of things. Thus, through those things, you have really under appreciated and not understood Obama as well as you should be.

      Obama's approval rating is high among liberals. You don't approve of him for various reasons. Fine.

      Realize that you are not the only liberal in this country and you are not a spokesperson for all liberals. Respect that and think of your audience when making critiques about Obama.

      Thank you. I ask that you respond kindly.

  •  Nice try sreeizzle (1+ / 0-)
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    sreeizzle2012

    Many of us agree, a few will loudly disagree.
    What bugs me most with the ObamaSux crowd is the strategic blunder they make.
    Obama delivers more of his promises than any President in my memory (and that goes back to JFK) and yet his critics have done such a great job of criticizing that many of his supporters don't know or believe it. The really loud ones have handed the CONs every weapon they want to bash not just Obama but the entire Left (as defined as anything left of John Boner). The CON media eats this up (which is why people like Uygur keep spewing it, it gets them airtime) and echoes it, that demoralizes our side and we get results like 2010. Voter suppression of our side driven by "Liberal" punditry.
    I have a few bones to pick with the President and his administration, it's not like I love everything they have done. I am, however, pleasantly surprised at how much he HAS been able to accomplish, specially considering the sh!t sandwich he was handed and the obstruction he faces. My expectations were not unreasonably high in the first place and I am aware of how this sausage gets made.
    So I still protest the issues I feel are being mishandled but at the same time support Obama, partly because the alternatives would be orders of magnitude worse and partly because, with enough support from our side, he will more likely to accomplish what we elected him to do.
    If we hadn't dropped the ball in 2010, had kept Nancy Pelosi in the Speakership, we would have been so much farther along the progressive path than we are today.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 07:34:15 AM PST

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