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Recently someone posted a story about how one of their GOP state reps said something stupid about how bike riders make more CO2 than Cars.  This prompted a lot of "look how stupid they are" comments and such.

Mr. Tom Smith, songwriter/singer drew my attention to this.

My thoughts are as follows

My main concern is that making fun of stupid things said by just the GOP reps opens you up to having to defend the stupid things said by Dems. (Yes, they do say dumb things too: Maxine Waters, (D, CA) announcing that “sequestration” was going to cost the U.S. economy 170 million jobs. Opps, 170 million… there are only 135 million jobs in the U.S.)

One of the complaints by the Tea Party types is that the "rational" ones get ignored by the media and only the nuts get coverage. Having been to several anti-war protests under Bush, there were quite a few nuts on the left that would give even rabid TP'ers a run for their money.

Do we really want the media using dumb comments to paint those who believe one side or the other as how they all are? All this would do is divide people even more and make it harder to sit down and be rational about issues.

Is the CO2 produced by a person riding a bike more than driving a car the same distance? No, here is the math. Lets set that aside and discuss the real issue: the new tax put on one product over another. What is the tax for, will it cover the cost of what it is for, is it a fair tax, will it do what is wanted, what other ideas would be better?

But we can't have that discussion because everyone wants to paint the GOP as stupid fools who can't think so just point and laugh at them and any other GOP member. We all know that laughing at others makes them change their minds and become receptive to information. Right?

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  •  Tip Jar (3+ / 0-)
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    Blazehawkins, Shippo1776, lightarty

    Stupid question hour starts now and ends in five minutes.

    by DrillSgtK on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 01:56:22 PM PST

  •  We kind of tried it your way. (15+ / 0-)

    Clinton and Gore really humored a lot of stupid people, acting as if their concerns were valid. So did Kerry.

    It just doesn't work. Morons will stay morons and you can't "nice" them out of it.

    And don't think they won't attack our people anyway.

    "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

    by Bush Bites on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 02:07:29 PM PST

  •  Like Stephanie Miller says: (7+ / 0-)
    "It's my job to report what they say...
       ....and them mock them mercilessly for it!"
    Saying that they're wrong and quoting the facts has far less impact on the public than one Jay Leno quip or one John Stewart "funny face" and eye roll.

    It's repugnant that the public only functions at an eighth-grade level, but it's a fact of life in this deranged loony bin we live in.

    "Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

    by leftykook on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 02:20:13 PM PST

  •  I think I will go ahead and mock this republican.. (3+ / 0-)
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    allergywoman, OldSoldier99, lightarty

    ...and his views on 'bicycle pollution.' Thanks anyway.

  •  Nope they deserve contempt (6+ / 0-)

    And a lot of them are idiots.  The smart ones have the crazy packed away.  

    "Holding on to anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die," - Buddha.

    by sujigu on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 02:26:38 PM PST

    •  interesting tag line (0+ / 0-)

      to a comment that states the intent to continue to give contempt to others.


      Stupid question hour starts now and ends in five minutes.

      by DrillSgtK on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 02:39:50 PM PST

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      •  Not angry at them :P (1+ / 0-)
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        But seriously, if the Republican actually had a reasonable argument, we could discuss it.  The argument you put forth would be respectful.

        But the Republican didn't.  They come out with strange arguments, so they're not exactly great partners.  

        "Holding on to anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die," - Buddha.

        by sujigu on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 04:48:37 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  Have you ever actually talked to these brain-dead (3+ / 0-)

    people? There is nothing, literally nothing, that will keep stupid Republican elected officials from being stupid. Especially since the corporations which own and run them pay them to stay stupid.

  •  But calling all GOPer's "stupid" is not working. (0+ / 0-)

    It opens you up to being painted with the dumb things said by Dem's.  Like Hank Johnson (D, GA) worried that the deployment of a few thousand new U.S. military troops and their families to Guam would capsize the island.

    Instead of addressing the concerns, running around pointing and laughing and saying "See all GOP's are stupid" fails to address the real issues.

    From the daily kos story, it sounds like the proposed tax is to make up for the perceived cost of bikes on the roads vs the quantifiable funding from cars to maintain the roads.

    Cars pay a gas tax on every gallon of fuel to cover the cost of roads and upkeep. Bikes pay nothing at the gas pump. (Yes, "Duh") Yet bike lanes, striping, cleaning, law enforcement and repair still cost funds. The writer correctly points out that most (not all of course) bikers do own and drive cars so they pay to cover the cost.

    The counter argument is bikers drive less so they pay less but get higher benefits vs what they pay. (the fairness question)

    The roads are in need of additional funds to fix/maintain, apparently. Not a lot more it seems as a tax on bikes can't generate much additional revenue to the state. So instead of calling the proponents of the bike tax fools and idiots or stupid, presenting counter arguments to the tax or better yet, counter revenue proposals would be more effective.

    Maybe just increasing the fine on all moving violations by half a precent might generate the needed funds, and be fair if bikers were ticketed also. (how many bikers have you seen running stop signs, going to wrong way, changing lanes without signaling, etc)

    But we can't have that discussion because the state rep is "stupid" a "fool" an "idiot".

    Stupid question hour starts now and ends in five minutes.

    by DrillSgtK on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 02:37:00 PM PST

  •  You make me sick. (0+ / 0-)

    False equivalencies are clearly your stock in trade.  Maxine Water's comment was clearly a mispeak -- she was quoting Bernanke at her news conference about his testimony at a congressional hearing on the probability of 700,000 job losses -- and she said 170 million.  That's called a whoops that happens 500 times a day on the news when millions, billions, and trillions are mixed up and confused.

    There are 10,000 right wing, racist references on the Google to Waters on this topic.  You just made it 10,001.

    the fact that you're right is nothing more than interesting

    by Egg on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 02:37:21 PM PST

  •  I no longer care what Rethugs think. (3+ / 0-)
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    terrybuck, Mark Mywurtz, lightarty

    We are a center left country. You will find loons, poltroons, crooks and idiots anywhere, including everything from the Democratic party to the far left.

    But the GOP have made it their public face. Let them own it.

    They chased the moderates out of their party and now rely almost solely on lies, fear, and gerrymandering to stay afloat.

    Fuck em. To the scrapheap of history with them and none too soon. They are now actually harming the future of the country.

  •  There was lots of 'concern' about... (2+ / 0-)
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    fumie, OldSoldier99

    ...Rubio's inability to drink water without having a complete physical and mental breakdown. The guy at "Lawyers, Guns, and Money" was really concerned. I believe that I am fully capable of mocking a Republican's foibles and even stupidity while recognizing that his/her policies are dangerous.

  •  I respectfully disagree. (5+ / 0-)

    I think that we should point out GOP stupidity at every opportunity.

    Firstly, I would contend that most Republicans are never going to change their minds about anything, so there's no point in attempting to engage them with information or rational arguments. The point is to defeat them. All our efforts should be directed at defeating them. In the effort to defeat them, ridicule can be as effective a tool as rational arguments. Even rational arguments should not be wasted trying to convince Republicans of anything, but purposed at demonstrating to voters why Republicans are wrong.

    Secondly, I don't think we need to worry that ridiculing the constant stupidity of Republicans impairs our ability to defend the occasional stupidity of some Democrats. I emphasize: Democrats can be stupid occasionally, but Republicans are nothing but stupid all the time. There's no equivalence between the two parties. At those occasions when Democrats are stupid, we should be the first to call them out for it.

    "Work is the curse of the drinking classes." -Oscar Wilde

    by eades on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 03:11:04 PM PST

  •  It's just so much easier to label people with whom (1+ / 0-)
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    you disagree as stupid, hateful, racist, criminal, sexist, homophobic, oh so crazy that, than respect your adversary and understand she makes you better because of her opposition.

    "If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." Winston Churchill

    by Kvetchnrelease on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 03:27:22 PM PST

  •  Competition/compassion (1+ / 0-)
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    I must first admit that I've heard some pretty stupid comments from conservatives, but on average, I doubt there is any difference in intelligence.
    I do see a difference in competition and compassion. I heard once that the best predictor of party affiliation is a person's opinion on social justice or welfare policies. All other opinions tend to align with that issue.

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