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The leaders of some the nation's most far right-wing groups want Republican Congress members to remember who's boss in all this talk of a grand bargain. Their message: capitulation on any tax increases will mean political death.
"My organization has gone in and launched primary challenges before," said Amy Kremer, chairman of Tea Party Express, a conservative political action committee ready to jump-start another round of challenges to Republicans who agree to raise tax revenue. "We've done it before, and we will happily do it again, if the need arises." [...]

"If any of these Senate Republicans or House members get conned by the president, they are toast," predicted Herman Cain, who ran for the GOP presidential nomination in 2012, in an interview. Mr. Cain, now a radio talk-show host, said he often hears from listeners who "are sick of Republicans using the excuse they had to compromise."

FreedomWorks and the Club for Growth are in there, too, both using these negotiations to determine their primary targets in 2014. Club for Growth already has a list of nine House members it wants to target, and is fundraising off of it. So the 10 to 17 percent of Republicans that the Cook Report thinks might be vulnerable to President Obama's charm offensive is probably overestimated, at least when it comes to a grand bargain and tax hikes.

That's reflected in one vote Greg Sargent picked up on this week in the Senate Budget Committee. An amendment to the Democrats' budget would have closed loopholes that allow large corporations to pay nothing in taxes. Republicans voted against it unanimously. This isn't just a symbolic measure, as Sargent notes, because there are more than two dozen major, profitable American corporations that paid no taxes in the 2008-2011 period.

Judging by that vote, it would seem that Republicans are taking the threats coming from their right flank very seriously. They're not even ready to consider closing loopholes if it could mean the least little bit of a tax burden for their corporate masters. Probably because the corporate masters are the ones funding all these right-wing groups.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 08:48 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (24+ / 0-)

    "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

    by Joan McCarter on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 08:48:56 AM PDT

  •  good (11+ / 0-)

    congressional progressives may need help killing a grand bargain.

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 08:56:36 AM PDT

  •  "Or else (3+ / 0-)
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    we start shooting people" - teabagger

    One of the major differences between Democrats and Republicans is that the former have the moral imagination to see the moral dimension of financial affairs, while the latter do not. Some pragmatists are exceptions.

    by Words In Action on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 09:06:50 AM PDT

  •  Obama is going about this all wrong. (6+ / 0-)

    He's talking to people who have no authority.  Boehner nor McConnell nor any of the others have any power.

    It's not the Club for Growth or teh tea party or freedomworks!

    It's their owners.

    He should announce publicly he wants to meet w/the masters...
    Pete Peterson
    Chucky Koch
    de Vos'
    Friess'
    Simmons'
    Coors'
    Scaife'

    Meet w/those sociopaths who are controlling all the orgs they hide behind.  ie. Jim DeMented left congress because chucky koch offered him more money so he could use the Heritage foundation to hide behind while threatening all legislators at all levels w/being overwhelmed (primaried) by koch money.

    Every time the President meets w/the elected puppets is a waste of time because they are only intermediaries of the sociopath billionaires.

    Congress is now irrelevant.  It's the billionaires who own congress and call the shots.
    President Obama should get on national tv on primetime and name them and call for a meeting w/them.
    That would create a firestorm of conversation.

    "I freed a thousand slaves, I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves" Harriet Tubman

    by BrianParker14 on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 09:10:42 AM PDT

    •  I Don't Think He Wants the Presidency to Acknowleg (3+ / 0-)
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      who the legislature actually are.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 05:42:54 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  He needs to resent the Demands of the 53%... (0+ / 0-)

      No Touching of the "Entitlements." Or Else!

      And the Top 1% Tax Rate Goes Up! Or Else!

      "Do you realize the responsibility I carry?
      I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
      ~John F. Kennedy~

      -7.5,-5.8

      by Oldestsonofasailor on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 05:59:58 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Pete Peterson = Obama's plutocrat friend (0+ / 0-)

      Pete Peterson is Obama's plutocrat friend, not just that of the GOP, and Pete Peterson's current stated position is actually the same as Obama's (some tax increases, cuts to the safety net, teeny-tiny stimulus).  The other week on Up with Chris Hayes, Chris played a clip of PP basically espousing basically the same position as Obama.

      Pete Peterson throws his money around to create a veneer of bipartisanship.  If you look at the grants his foundation has made, it's pretty disturbing to see the ideological spread of think tanks (from right to center-left) that have received Peterson cash.

      •  Peter Peterson sociopath... (0+ / 0-)

        From Paul Blumenthal..paulblumenthal@huffingtonpost.com

        "According to a review of tax documents from 2007 through 2011, Peterson has personally contributed at least $458 million to the Peter G. Peterson Foundation to cast Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and government spending as in a state of crisis, in desperate need of dramatic cuts."

        That's "at least".  And that doesn't include the Koch's, de Vos', Waltons, the Coors family, Simmons and the other billionaire sociopaths.

        "I freed a thousand slaves, I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves" Harriet Tubman

        by BrianParker14 on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 06:14:40 PM PDT

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    •  but it is team limbaugh that creates their billion (0+ / 0-)

      aire-loving constituencies of talk radio teabaggers- they need them to make their paid off politicians look like they have 'popular' support outside the south.

      there has always been money in politics- the difference the last 25 years has been talk radio.

      and that base has no idea who those billionaires are. obama should go straight to the problem and start referring to boss limbaugh - their real god.

      "that's what limbaugh said" "you sound like limbaugh" should be a standard retort by dems to media and republicans that repeat the bullshit- because that's where most of it was sold and made acceptable.

      dems need to elevate limbaugh to the point where any GOP politician and media hack has RUSH tattooed on their foreheads.

      This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

      by certainot on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 08:49:57 PM PDT

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  •  The GOP Has A Bigger Problem Than Taxes (4+ / 0-)
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    Imagine if there is a grand bargain on gutting social security and republicans vote in the majority for these cuts.  Imagine how the seniors and veterans who are the staple of the GOP will react.  It won't be pretty.  For all the GOP talking about gutting social security and medicare they would be crazy to do it.  I hope that democrats do not fall for them being the majority to vote on any grand bargain because the GOP will run against them on it.  It boggles the mind, but truth is the truth.

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 09:13:52 AM PDT

    •  It would be interesting to see who suffered (1+ / 0-)
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      more from a grand bargain that cut SS, the Dems or the Repugs. Actually, I think it would be the Dems, Repugs could be more easily convinced that it was all to prevent a Marxist takeover or some such nonsense.

      If there is no accountability for those who authorized torture, we can no longer say that we are a nation of laws, not men.

      by MikePhoenix on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 06:01:07 PM PDT

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  •  So....The Grand Bargain is a joke. (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Yup... Step to the right... wait for them to... (1+ / 0-)
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    Step to the left... ignore tea party handcuff... step to the right, wait for them to step to the left...

    This is why you don't give the damn mouse the cookie.

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 05:32:11 PM PDT

  •  But Rember This is a Midterm. They Need the Base (2+ / 0-)
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    much more this election than in the Presidential year.

    This approach worked spectacularly for them for 2010.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 05:43:48 PM PDT

  •  "they are toast," predicted Herman Cain (1+ / 0-)
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    said the Pizza Guy......

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 05:46:40 PM PDT

  •  These silly people believe that (4+ / 0-)
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    No Taxes actually pertains to them.  They are fighting for the overlords and masters and if the GOP were offered a deal where the Little People paid more taxes, it would be a done deal.

    When someone is impatient and says, "I haven't got all day," I always wonder, How can that be? How can you not have all day? George Carlin

    by msmacgyver on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 05:48:59 PM PDT

  •  GOP economic plan explained in 10 seconds. (0+ / 0-)

    Money doesn't talk it swears.

    by Coss on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 05:49:03 PM PDT

  •  Political suicide is painless; it brings on many (1+ / 0-)
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    changes.

    There is no hell on earth appropriate enough for those who would promote the killing of another person, in the name of a god.

    by HarryParatestis on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 05:51:32 PM PDT

  •  a propos wasted billions, tragedies: (0+ / 0-)

    do you remember Riverbend? Anyone know where she is, if she has survived?

  •  Said the Toast Expert (0+ / 0-)
    If any of these Senate Republicans or House members get conned by the president, they are toast," predicted Herman Cain, who ran for the GOP presidential nomination in 2012

    Don't trust anyone over 84414

    by BentLiberal on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 06:07:28 PM PDT

  •  Closing loopholes is not increasing taxes. (0+ / 0-)

    Where are OUR tax lawyers? Why aren't we contesting the deadbeat corporations with offshore accounts? (????????!!!!!)

    Why aren't we pleading our case in court?

    There is a great thrill among the wealthy in stiffing the government. They'd pay a thousand to a lawyer to stiff the government out of five hundred. I know people who do!

    This is an issue for all red counties and states in 2014. Here is the message...
    Why are you paying more so the rich can pay less? They are they making a fool out of you when you let your boss keep his money but you have to give up yours. Stop being tricked by people with lawyers. Vote Democratic, you'll save more of your money if you help us make the rich pay their share. They are calling you stupid.
    Well, are you?

    (okay, that was just a draft, I have others)

    Honesty is not a policy. It's a character trait.

    by Says Who on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 06:14:30 PM PDT

  •  Taxes (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm a bit confused. Isn't this the same group that supported Romney/Ryan who's platform was based on closing tax loop holes. Isn't that what the President is proposing. However god forbid the press point that out! We need a few and objective press willing to take the liars and cheats to task!

  •  Capitulation :) (0+ / 0-)

    "capitulation on any tax increases will mean political death."

    Capitulation by any Democrats--sorry Mr. President--will mean death...literally, to many........

    This is not what we fight or fought for White House!

    No bargains.  Please.

    "Lets show the rascals what Citizens United really means."

    by smiley7 on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 06:36:11 PM PDT

  •  Good God The GOP is fucked. (3+ / 0-)
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    If the Dems don't shit the bed between now and Nov 2014 and just hold their own come election time they will have overwhelming majorities on January 2017.  The GOP is tearing itself apart.  They don't realize that by going hard right they're going down the path to complete irrelevance.  In 2016 I count as many as 10 GOP held senate seats which the Dems have a decent shot provided they get a credible candidate.  AZ, FL, IL, IN, IA, NH, NC, OH, PA and WI.  There may be a few more that could be in play provided the Dems get solid candidates.

    With changing demographics, radicalization of the right, disgust with the right and maybe a solid name atop the Dem ticket (Hillary?) no amount of gerrymandering will save the GOP in 2016, especially if they're Lugaring the somewhat saner among them.  If the Dems get just hold their own in 2014 they could get majority in the House in 2016 as well as a filibuster proof majority in the Senate.  Best part is it will all be due to these fucking nutbags in the CfG, Teabagger Express and the Kochheads at Freedomworks    

    This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

    by DisNoir36 on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 06:43:27 PM PDT

  •  Or else what..they will run Cain (0+ / 0-)

    for Chambliss and West again.  They can't get further away from reality without  straightjacket congresscritters.. Give them thorazine, send them in to vote and take them back to padded cells...This is the or else.
    I just don't know anymore about these compromising with sociapathic people who are supposed to be representative.. Does this mean the country has a sociapathic disorder?  

    We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

    by Vetwife on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 06:49:37 PM PDT

  •  How They Gonna Do It? (0+ / 0-)

    "Far-right groups warn GOP: No new taxes, or else"

    There is one question that I have never seen an answer to -- maybe because there is no legitimate answer to it.  That question is:  How in the Hell do Republicans plan to pay for all the wars that they covet, plus pay for propping up Israel?  We seniors can't afford to foot the bill; shoot, most of us are doing well simply to stay alive.  There MUST be some national income somewhere -- or else the conservatives have no choice but to end their bellicose pugilistic behavior and to let their Middle-East colony start paying its own way for a change.  So answer my question, Republicans:  where is the money needed to finance your aggressive little capers going to come from?

  •  One of the Koch's greatest coups (0+ / 0-)

    has been convincing the 'baggers that by protecting billionaires they're protecting themselves.  As if the billionaires ever gave a damn about the 'baggers.  All the Koch's give back is hate radio talking points.... it's not like they're spending money on libraries and clinics in deep red districts.

    Bernie Sanders is right, we gotta frame this as tax breaks for the rich vs. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, infrastructure, safe food etc., and make the GOP an offer they can't refuse.  25% (of midterm voters; more like 8% of registered voters) have Kool-Aid circulating in their veins, but the rest are likely open to a populist argument.  Obama needs to quit giving a shit about standing ovations from the GOP and bring the fight, and if he won't the rest of the party needs too, right now.  There is no reason why seniors in Kentucky should be voting for McConnell based on their economic self-interest.  (I'm actually surprised [but gratified] we haven't seen a socially conservative economic populist catch on -- I guess Huckabee was playing with that.)

    Anyway, if we frame it as corporate tax breaks vs. Social Security et. al. and stay on message relentlessly, it's hard to imagine our losing with persuadable red voters.  R-right?

    "Happiness is the only good. The place to be happy is here. The time to be happy is now. The way to be happy is to make others so." - Robert Ingersoll

    by dackmont on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 07:18:08 PM PDT

    •  koch's best tool is radio, and it does the framing (1+ / 0-)
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      if the left starts getting traction in any framing the think tanks spot it and develop a PR response they can blast the country with from those 1000 coordinated radio stations.

      there will be no major framing by the left as long it ignores RW radio.

      convincing the baggers (they are just another name for the talk radio base) to love and protect the billionaires has been job one for talk radio for the last 25 years. it is RW radio at its best - it creates the stupid and then it will enforce it by attacking those 'moderates' in the GOP sane enough to consider revenues.

      whatever the political consequences, the fact is we are wasting time with this obstruction and squandering opportunities merely because their most important tool gets a free speech free ride.

      This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

      by certainot on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 08:40:08 PM PDT

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  •  I called the Speaker's office today (1+ / 0-)
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    I said I was opposed to any cutting of Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid. Then I added that I was not convinced that the deficit was too much of a problem. The guy said I was entitled to my opinion, but he would pass my comment to the Speaker.
    I had earlier called Nancy Pelosi's office.
    You can reach them through the Capitol Switchboard 1-202-224-3121. I suppose Monday would be a good day. Don't be afraid to call your members of Congress if they happen to be Republican. Yes, my Senators are John Cornyn and Ted Cruz. Nothing to lose by contacting them.

    Censorship is rogue government.

    by scott5js on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 07:21:08 PM PDT

  •  G.O.P. = Greedy Oligarchs Party (0+ / 0-)

    Republicans he best politicians money can buy.

    "Senators are a never-ending source of amusement, amazement, and discouragement" ~ Will Rogers

    by Lefty Coaster on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:15:58 AM PDT

  •  this is war, folks (0+ / 0-)

    these assholes would re-institute slavery if they could

    Howard Fineman needs to have a chat with Chris Cilizza about Grecian Formula and its effects on punditry

    by memofromturner on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 06:02:25 AM PDT

  •  Republicans not funding THEIR wars (0+ / 0-)

    Is nothing short of treason

    Who is mighty ? One who turns an enemy into a friend !

    by OMwordTHRUdaFOG on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 11:08:03 AM PDT

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