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Ah, CPAC...where old white people go to hate on people who aren't like them.

  • Yes, there is a segment of the conservative movement that believes itself the next incarnation of the confederacy:
    NATIONAL HARBOR, Maryland — A panel at the Conservative Political Action Committee on Republican minority outreach exploded into controversy on Friday afternoon, after an audience member defended slavery as good for African-Americans.

    The exchange occurred after an audience member from North Carolina, 30-year-old Scott Terry, asked whether Republicans could endorse races remaining separate but equal. After the presenter, K. Carl Smith of Frederick Douglass Republicans, answered by referencing a letter by Frederick Douglass forgiving his former master, the audience member said “For what? For feeding him and housing him?” Several people in the audience cheered and applauded Terry’s outburst.

    After the exchange, Terry muttered under his breath, “why can’t we just have segregation?” noting the Constitution’s protections for freedom of association.

    This is either horribly frightening, or the most epic troll of all time.
  • Debate: do we applaud Sen. Rob Portman for evolving on marriage equality, or do we wonder why it always takes Republicans having close gay family members to evolve?
  • Tweet of the day:
    Anil Dash Anil DashVerified account ‏@anildash

    Eventually one of these Republican congressmen is going to find out his daughter is a woman, and then we're all set.

  • If there's one thing that best encapsulates Republicans at CPAC, it's this. By far. And now that you've seen it, you'll never unsee it. Make sure you are not drinking coffee or any other beverage, as it is likely to end up all over your monitor.
  • God's plan for rape:
    The former pastor of an Indiana megachurch who is awaiting sentencing in a sex crimes case told a 17-year-old girl that Jesus wanted her to have sexual relations with him.

    Federal prosecutors on Wednesday released letters in which former First Baptist Church pastor Jack Schaap explained that the underage girl should have sex with him because it was part of God’s plan.

    “In our ‘fantasy talk,’ you have affectionately spoken of being ‘my wife,’” Schaap wrote to the girl. “That is exactly what Christ desires for us. He wants to marry us + become eternal lovers!”

    Last year, Schaap pleaded guilty to having the girl transported across state lines into Michigan so he could have sex with her. Prosecutors said that the former pastor had tricked church members into bringing the girl to his cabin in Cadillac, Michigan because she was “in an extremely vulnerable state” and needed to spend extended time alone with him.

    Ain't it great when god wants exactly what you want?
  • This is awesome:
    President Barack Obama is preparing to tell all federal agencies for the first time that they should consider the impact on global warming before approving major projects, from pipelines to highways.

    ...

    In taking the step, Obama would be fulfilling a vow to act alone in the face of a Republican-run House of Representatives unwilling to pass measures limiting greenhouse gases. He’d expand the scope of a Nixon-era law that was first intended to force agencies to assess the effect of projects on air, water and soil pollution.

    “If Congress won’t act soon to protect future generations, I will,” Obama said last month during his State of the Union address. He pledged executive actions “to reduce pollution, prepare our communities for the consequences of climate change, and speed the transition to more sustainable sources of energy.”

    "Republicans" and "future generations" are mutually incompatible ideas.
  • Animated GIF art. Because, why not? It's pretty cool.
  • An absolute must-read on the Lyndon Johnson tapes.

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  •  Green Diary Rescue returns! (9+ / 0-)
    The second edition of the restored Green Diary Rescue, a round-up through links and excerpts of environmental diaries that have been posted at Daily Kos the previous seven days, will appear today, Saturday, at 1 p.m. Pacific Time on the front page. Be sure to stop by, read and comment.

    You can read the first edition from last week here.

  •  Amend the amendment. (7+ / 0-)

    2nd amendment: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed, but shall allow for regulation."

    The Great Awakening Is Afire! Think outside the box.

    by franklyn on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:05:02 PM PDT

  •  No need to wonder... (9+ / 0-)

    do we wonder why it always takes Republicans having close gay family members to evolve?

    Conservatives lack empathy.  Where the ability to imagine oneself standing in someone else's shoes is lacking,  personal experience is the only teacher.  

    •  Is it really personal experience? Are they (1+ / 0-)
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      Really learning some empathy? Or are they just afraid that a family member will come out in the media and show the world just what unloving, mean assholes they truly are?

      •  They haven't learned empathy (0+ / 0-)

        If I can imagine what ill-fitting shoes do to you, and help you alleviate it, that is empathy.

        If my shoes pinch, and I do something about it, that is not empathy, it is me reacting to my own pain.

        The latter is the equivalent of all that is happening to Republicans with close gay family members.

  •  Re: Portman (11+ / 0-)

    I think we do both. I think it's commendable he has moved on this issue. I think it's unfortunate that too many on the right can only empathize on issues that impact their own families.

    I thought this was a good take:

    http://www.slate.com/...

    Excerpt:

    But if Portman can turn around on one issue once he realizes how it touches his family personally, shouldn't he take some time to think about how he might feel about other issues that don't happen to touch him personally? Obviously the answers to complicated public policy questions don't just directly fall out of the emotion of compassion. But what Portman is telling us here is that on this one issue, his previous position was driven by a lack of compassion and empathy. Once he looked at the issue through his son's eyes, he realized he was wrong. Shouldn't that lead to some broader soul-searching?

    Jon Husted is a dick.

    by anastasia p on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:07:11 PM PDT

    •  I particularly liked the line: (4+ / 0-)
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      "Members of Congress don't have poor children".

      So they know nothing about it and never really will...

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:38:47 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  The relative lack of empathy (3+ / 0-)
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      tracks very closely with conservatism and authoritarianism. It's not just wishful speculation, but scientifically supported.

      This research builds on earlier evidence of correlations between empathetic traits/moral values and political affiliation, and correlations between threat/disgust reflexes and political affiliation. Those scoring higher on disgust/threat indexes are more likely to score lower on empathy and vote conservative, whereas those scoring higher on maximising equality and minimising harm are more likely to score higher in empathy and be left wing.
      Other traits that track closely with conservatism are a fear of and aversion to complexity and ambiguity, an affinity for authority and hierarchy, and being closed to new ideas, especially ones that challenge their cherished beliefs.

      And it's biological, not just environmental.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:38:59 PM PDT

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  •  The LBJ / Nixon Vietnam treason (10+ / 0-)

    My jaw was on the floor reading that BBC News article. We think this kind of thing only happens in political drama but apparently it goes on!

    Incredible. As you say, a must read!

  •  so, 30-something is "old" now? (3+ / 0-)

    "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

    by Sybil Liberty on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:11:04 PM PDT

  •  Not at all good news: (1+ / 0-)
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  •  I am well and trly sick of this shit. (5+ / 0-)
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    Ah, CPAC...where old white people go to hate on people who aren't like them.
    There are a lot of old white people who detest CPAC. I should know. I was raised by two of them.

    One day (with luck) I will be an old white person. I detest CPAC and I don't enjoy hating on brown people, gay people, foreigners, or anyone who is in a group simply by virtue of their birth. CPAC people, of course, chose to be there, so I have not problem detesting them, but it isn't because they are old and white..

    It's because they are assholes.

    This site needs to stop making fun of people because they are white, they are old, they are Texan, they are Southern or because they belong to any particular demographic.

    There is a word for that.

    It's called "bigotry".

    Ceterum censeo Factionem Republicanam esse delendam.

    by journeyman on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:15:28 PM PDT

    •  Most of the faces I'm seeing at CPAC (2+ / 0-)
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      are fairly young, but definitely mostly white. And based on what they're saying, also mostly stupid, racist and mean. You know, YAF types. I.e. morons.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:30:15 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  You mean these? (3+ / 0-)
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        There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

        by Cali Scribe on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:40:52 PM PDT

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        •  Uh, yeppers (2+ / 0-)
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          Otherwise known as "salt of the earth", "values voters" and "heartland".

          I.e. morons.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:51:12 PM PDT

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        •  Shout out to a diary discussing where the (0+ / 0-)

          logic of Scott Terry and his audience come from. I do think his trolling of that event, he was playing for an audience. At one point I thought he said something like, "I want people to be throwing things [at me]."

          So You're Shocked Some Young, Southern White Dude Defended Slavery at CPAC?

          http://www.dailykos.com/...

          "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

          by LilithGardener on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:56:58 PM PDT

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      •  I've been noting that (3+ / 0-)
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        the bulk of the racist stuff I hear comes out of the mouths of young white men (and I live in the South).  That is, men who are decidedly younger than I am.

        Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

        by a gilas girl on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:41:00 PM PDT

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        •  I hear it from all types (1+ / 0-)
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          The main things they have in common is they're stupid, angry and clueless.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:52:23 PM PDT

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          •  I hear it most from young, white men (0+ / 0-)

            men in the 18-40 bracket.  It could well be that these are the only people with the complete lack of self-awareness willing enough to say such things aloud in front of strangers.

            Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

            by a gilas girl on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 06:49:12 PM PDT

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            •  I hear it a lot from established immigrants (0+ / 0-)

              who tend to be more conservative because they've worked hard to get to and make it in the US and still feel insecure about their success and resent what they perceive to be others getting a free ride or special treatment.

              "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

              by kovie on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 07:32:50 PM PDT

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    •  I'll stand with you - here is NYC's latest (0+ / 0-)

      version of "papers please" - apparently "Bloomberg's army" (the NYPD) operates with impunity right here in Blue New York when they implement new racist and xenophobic policies.

      On one hand, I'm very proud of New York's lead on gun safety, and their recent crack down on sales at gun shows.

      Yet, on the other hand, I have to credit NYPD's ability to innovate when it comes to continuing racist and xenophobic policing. As one policy gets shut down through the courts they see to have another one ready and waiting up their sleeve.

      Disclaimer: NYC resident, (ground zero for God's wrath).

      "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

      by LilithGardener on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 01:05:18 PM PDT

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    •  Forgot the link - NYC's newest "papers please" (0+ / 0-)

      NYPD Ordered to Run Criminal Checks on VICTIMS Reporting Domestic Violence

      http://www.dailykos.com/...

      "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

      by LilithGardener on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 01:06:28 PM PDT

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  •  A reflection on work and age (0+ / 0-)

    is what I called this Saturday morning reflection which actually raises some questions about how we make policy in these areas

    "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

    by teacherken on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:18:41 PM PDT

  •  CPAC = bromidic self indulgence...yawn (3+ / 0-)
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    ego sum ergo ego eram

    by glb3 on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:18:56 PM PDT

  •  Re Obama (3+ / 0-)
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    I think it's sad that the President keeps having to spend all his time trying to figure how to keep this mad, mad do-nothing congress from killing us all. “If Congress won’t act soon to protect future generations, I will,” Obama said.

    When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.-Mark Twain

    by Havoth on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:21:39 PM PDT

  •  I'm not a fan of the GIF art thing. (0+ / 0-)

    It's annoying.
    It's like, lets take a tiny portion of an Escher drawing and animate it.

    The L.B.J. tape item was fascinating.

    "Too much. There's too much fucking perspective now." David St. Hubbins

    by nellgwen on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:21:48 PM PDT

  •  1.Yes, we applaud Rob Portman for evolving on the (1+ / 0-)
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    issue no matter why. sometimes that stuff is epiphanic. I have a close relative who is gay. he was always republican until he came out. now he's a liberal, though lot more conservative than I am and 17 years younger.

    2. Stop demonizing old white people. I'm an old white person and helluva lot more liberal than some younger ones of all races, genders and hair length, just to be more arbitrary.

    "Say little, do much" (Pirkei Avot 1:15)

    by hester on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:26:21 PM PDT

  •  Why aren't we trolling them? (2+ / 0-)
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    Seriously, whatever happened to Mike Stark and the brilliant way he trolled George Allen? Why don't we send people to these things posing as sincere conservatives and ask serious-seeming questions right out of the Onion?

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:28:24 PM PDT

  •  Thank you Daily Kos (2+ / 0-)
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    If it were not for the DK I would not have a clue about the world of politics, this site sets the record stright at after day and brings out the whole truth, if more people from the republican part would star reading this site, they too would understand the truth.  

  •  Can I be segregated (1+ / 0-)
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    from Scott Terry and his ilk, even though I'm white?

    And love all the animated GIFs -- I've seen some great ones recently involving sports events (I follow a couple of folks on Twitter who are quite skilled at creating them, usually of the SF Giants).

    There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

    by Cali Scribe on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:30:54 PM PDT

  •  "Old" (1+ / 0-)
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    CPAC...where old white people go to hate
    30-year-old Scott Terry
    Old?  Or ageism?

    Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

    by ActivistGuy on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:34:45 PM PDT

  •  Horst Wessel 2013 sequel at CPAC (0+ / 0-)

    Shorter version:

    If there's one thing that best encapsulates Republicans at CPAC, it's this. By far. And now that you've seen it, you'll never unsee it. Make sure you are not drinking coffee or any other beverage, as it is likely to end up all over your monitor.

    Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013

    by annieli on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:37:44 PM PDT

  •  Diary - "The NRA is right at home at CPAC" (0+ / 0-)

    Yesterday's diary by tytalus, The NRA is right at home at CPAC and comment threads tearing into some additional links from Glen the Plumber - together lay out a whole family structure of grifters at the top of ACU/NRA.

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    I found this all very interesting... (6+ / 0-)

    David Keene...chairman at American Conservative Union  (1984-2011).
    CPAC is an ACU event...CPAC is also co-sponsered by the NRA.

    Keene left the ACU to lead the NRA...after his ex-wife Diana Carr (ACU administrative director) was convicted of embezzlement.

    His son...David M. Keene (ACU communication director) is currently serving 10 years in prison for shooting at another motorist while heading to target practice.
    David Michael Keene, the prominent national conservative activist’s son charged in a road rage shooting on the George Washington Memorial Parkway, was institutionalized with “severe emotional problems” seven times between the ages of 8 and 13, his mother said Tuesday.

    “He’s had a continuing problem with impulse control, and an exaggerated belief that he was in more danger than he was in at times, causing him to respond in a way that was more excessive or out of line with what was going on,” Keene’s mother, Diana Carr, told reporters outside the U.S. District Court in Alexandria.
    but daddy David did receive the Martin Luther King Award from the Congress on Racial Equality...of course the CoRE's chairman Roy Innis is also on the board of the NRA.

    by Glen The Plumber on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 02:03:22 PM PDT

    Diana Carr
    http://www.wjla.com/...
    David M. Keene
    http://www.capitolhillblue.com/...

    "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

    by LilithGardener on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 01:25:10 PM PDT

  •  Doghelp this atheist but re: God's plan for rape (0+ / 0-)

    the very first thing that flashed into my conscious mind was that this was some ultravile troll's obscene parody of the following:

    After checking into the large motel complex, the evangelist read in his room for several hours, then sauntered over to the bar where he struck up a conversation with the pretty hat check girl.

    After she had finished working they shared a few drinks and then retired to his room. But when the evangelist began removing her blouse she seemed to have second thoughts. "Are you sure this is all right?" she asked. "I mean, you are a holy man."

    "My dear, he replied, "it is written in the Bible."

    She took him at his word, and the two spent a very pleasant night together. The next morning, however, as the girl was preparing to leave, she said, "You know, I don't remember the part of the Bible you mentioned last night. Could you show it to me?"

    In response, the evangelist took the Gideon Bible from the nightstand, opened the cover and pointed to the flyleaf on which someone had inscribed, The hat check girl puts out.

    But no, it's real & true & all the obscener for it...

    (NB: The above joke is at least 45 years old [I first saw it in my salad days, when I was a green vegetable swimming in oil & vinegar] & for all the false pretenses & sexism involves consenting adults in a mutually enjoyable activity. None of which will likely prevent a thorough hydration from the humor-challenged amongst us, but since it's been over 3 years & 1700+ comments since I've caught a donut [from someone subsequently banned BTW] maybe it's time for a dunking in the bluenosed-shark tank just to refresh my memory of what it feels like...)

    BALTIMORE RAVENS--SUPER BOWL XLVII CHAMPIONS! WOOO-HOOO!

    by Uncle Cosmo on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 01:38:20 PM PDT

  •  Can we get a drone strike on the Nixon Library? (2+ / 0-)
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    A smoldering pile of blackened ruins is a much more fitting monument to this f*cker.
    Too bad I dont believe in Hell.

  •  As I walk into my apartment complex for (0+ / 0-)

    over 55, two cop cars leave.

    So dementia and the 2nd Amendment? Many may be right, they may be coming to get their guns.

    guns are fun v. hey buddy, watch what you are doing -- which side are you on?

    by 88kathy on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 01:50:45 PM PDT

  •  Bill Maher's "but..." (0+ / 0-)

    The right is making a fuse over Bill Mayer saying last night that the Liberals may lose him on taxes.

    I watched the whole thing here ( I hope this is the Political Carnival is being honest with their licenses to post this).

    Bill does say his taxes are high, and he says that yes he is going to pay them. He is about to make the point that we could maybe cut taxes if we stopped spending more on defense than the next 13 countries. But of course News Buster does not show that.

    Once again dishonesty through editing. The truth does not matter to the Right - and oddly enough they are none repentant when they are caught in their lies.

    It is possible to read the history of this country as one long struggle to extend the liberties established in our Constitution to everyone in America. - Molly Ivins

    by se portland on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 02:01:12 PM PDT

  •  CPAC = (equals) KKK - (minus) Hoods (2+ / 0-)
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    From the "birther" kingtwit himself (Donald Trump, bemoaning the lack of "European" immigrants to America) to the witless witch of west (Sarah Palin, who always says the President's name as if she had a turd stuck in her mouth), CPAC is one great big all-white Klan rally, minus the hoods and burning crosses.

  •  Re: the tweet of the day (0+ / 0-)

    A while ago, there was a post complaining that Obama had segregated wives& daughters in his speech, but this is precisely why he did that.  He certainly understands their equality.  He was trying to teach those who do not.

  •  meh, it's discouraging to diary a thing (0+ / 0-)

    and then see it on the front page like it's new news.

    I'm in a bad mood today, don't mind me.

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